Andrea is my spirit shoetuber. I just posted a review of the Endo Pro 4 today and made mention of your discussion of the shoe back in April. 💪🏼 good stuff as always
Puma has always been too tight for my feet, so I was totally shocked at how much I love the MagMax. It’s bouncy, it’s stable, it’s cushioned, and the fit is great. It doesn’t make me feel sluggish when my legs are tired. Love this shoe.
I will forever be thankful that I tuned into the Wave Rebellion 2 review, I bought it and just love it! Great for both recovery or maybe longer runs when you need to pick up the pace.
The Mag Max for me has been a revelation - fantastics recovery shoes. Handles my marathon pace easily - the shortest time to accumulate 100km + training miles - i am a shoe nut and am spoiled for choice. I love Puma these days - the Puma Forever Run is my second favourite shoe. Not tried the deviate range - i should. I also strike midfoot extrmely on the lateral side - no issues.
So glad I found Andrea's opinion on the Rebel V4. It also makes my achilles sore and causes pain starting at the ball of my foot moving back to the inside of my ankle (post tib) the longer I run. Havent heard a single negative review otherwise. I'll have to see what shoes she likes
Balos is fantastic shoe for me even at 03:50 pace it worked - ok, I just tried that for a short time, but overall found it to be an excellent, luxurious daily trainer.
I found the Mizuno Flash V2 narrow and long... Alone bottom heavy but I was comparing it with the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1.. I tried the Balos and found it narrow in the toebox but also kind of dead midsole like my feeling on the REBEL V4 but again compared to the SC Elite V4.. I am slow and old so I seem to do with anything that can help me.. Plate.. Super foam.. If I hear in a review "natural feel or ground feel" I know I am to old for it 🎉🎉🎉
NB Rebel v4 is an interesting one - I don't dislike it as much as Andrea, but I also don't quite seem to enjoy it as much as it has been lauded in general. I do tend to have a more midfoot strike, so perhaps Andrea's theory about the rolling back on the un-rubbered area has some merit.
Same shoe...review done lol. Flitefoam Blast Plus bricked up fairly quickly on me on the 12 (400km) and has almost no energy return imo (Maybe it's my weight - 200lbs??) but the stability is fantastic imo.
An idea for a video: film yourselves on a treadmill running. Then analyze running style, pattern, muscle imbalance, weaknesses..etc. eg translate your running style into biomechanics and causes. I would also pay (and maybe you can offer this as a prize / service) for an evaluation of my running + offer exercises to improve.
Hello from Ireland hi guys quick question I love wearing my converse flats when I'm walking around.. I feel they stretch my calf muscles any opinions.. Recently got the vomero 17wow. . after logging up some miles I know they're traditional and will suit some people ( like Jacob ingelbertson.. who i use to be as good as... long time ago during the Coe +Ovett era.. but I really do prefer brooks and New balance... The ride .. but I still like to traditional low stack shoes that I used in the 80s.. Pegasus then.. I'm a 1 hour for 10 mile guy { well I am 55.. } I love the new balance Rebel 4 and wait for it.. The nike infinity RN4 is actually ok.. for a 3 -5 mile slow roll.😊😢
I’ve got g8,s in my cycling shoes and heat mouldable insoles in my running shoes from dr foot uk. I’ve got a wedge fitted to my g8 right foot cycling shoe as was recommended during my bike fit.
I wish I ran like David, but I think I’m more like Andrea. 54:41 I tend to land midfoot (I’m rare in that I can purposely vary). However, I have a good paw back; i.e. I don’t think I land flat. The Rebel4 has been my shoe of the year. I especially like it for up tempo. I can also go easy.
I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on how different shoes respond differently to different people. I am also wondering about the difference between foot size and cushion. So, while a smaller, lighter person might be able to work better with a less responsive shoe, would a smaller foot size make the compression distributed to a smaller space (bringing more compression focused to a smaller space), whereas a larger foot would be more distributed? If so, would it balance out in the end? On another note, my favorite trainer is the Boston 12 (a firmer shoe). I am not enjoying the NB Rebel 4 as much as I did when I first got it - it seems a bit flat now. What are your thoughts on/have you tried the TYR Speedworks - I'm very curious about this one.
Forgot to say - I am a shorter, lighter runner with a small shoe size 6 1/2 womens, and I think I have a mid-foot strike. To answer your other question, I tend to be closer aligned with David than either of you - but I enjoy hearing your opinions nonetheless.
The Hoka Clifton 1 vs the remake was not the same foam. Everything else was the same. I had the old pair (which I still have) and the remake side by side and compressing them with your thumb felt different. The original compressed easier than the remake and decompressed quicker than the remake, even though the original had more kilometres on them. I wonder if they where made in the same factory.
Interesting. I was looking into magmax as my cushioned recovery shoe. I am wondering if you guys are amenable to discussing the shoes coming out from brands like Xtep and 360 flame please.
I am surprised you guys didn't discuss the Superblast. I guess you all either feel the same way about it or it's just too controversial or the Superbalist is untouchable.
Why are the shipping times for items in stock so hideous these days. Attempted to order a New Balance shoe was ready to place the order and the arrival date noted was Oct. 24th, with today being Oct. 7th. No thanks.
Shouldn’t it be extremely simple to scan your feet and match it to a shoe these days? Why doesn’t this work, especially since some retailers do have same pretty “advanced” scanners?
Just guessing here but it seems to me that how a particular runner responds to a particular shoe is based on A LOT more than the shape of the person's foot while they're at rest. You could maybe fit a shoe to a person using analytical methods if you did something like use high resolution/high frequency motion capture, combined with lots of load cells sampling forces at relatively high frequencies, to build a dynamic model of the foot through the complete gait cycle, but you'd need a supercomputer, highly skilled programmers with an understanding of computational physics, and a lot of really expensive equipment. It is probably something the shoe companies have as part of their research and development efforts, and something they do at really advanced academic biomechanics labs, but it isn't something I see being deployed at the neighborhood running store anytime soon. 😅
Andrea is my spirit shoetuber. I just posted a review of the Endo Pro 4 today and made mention of your discussion of the shoe back in April. 💪🏼 good stuff as always
Puma has always been too tight for my feet, so I was totally shocked at how much I love the MagMax. It’s bouncy, it’s stable, it’s cushioned, and the fit is great. It doesn’t make me feel sluggish when my legs are tired.
Love this shoe.
I will forever be thankful that I tuned into the Wave Rebellion 2 review, I bought it and just love it! Great for both recovery or maybe longer runs when you need to pick up the pace.
The Mag Max for me has been a revelation - fantastics recovery shoes. Handles my marathon pace easily - the shortest time to accumulate 100km + training miles - i am a shoe nut and am spoiled for choice. I love Puma these days - the Puma Forever Run is my second favourite shoe. Not tried the deviate range - i should. I also strike midfoot extrmely on the lateral side - no issues.
So glad I found Andrea's opinion on the Rebel V4. It also makes my achilles sore and causes pain starting at the ball of my foot moving back to the inside of my ankle (post tib) the longer I run. Havent heard a single negative review otherwise. I'll have to see what shoes she likes
Balos is fantastic shoe for me even at 03:50 pace it worked - ok, I just tried that for a short time, but overall found it to be an excellent, luxurious daily trainer.
Balos is my favourite shoe of the year
Balos :
The biggest disappointment of the year for me.
I found the Mizuno Flash V2 narrow and long... Alone bottom heavy but I was comparing it with the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1.. I tried the Balos and found it narrow in the toebox but also kind of dead midsole like my feeling on the REBEL V4 but again compared to the SC Elite V4.. I am slow and old so I seem to do with anything that can help me.. Plate.. Super foam.. If I hear in a review "natural feel or ground feel" I know I am to old for it 🎉🎉🎉
NB Rebel v4 is an interesting one - I don't dislike it as much as Andrea, but I also don't quite seem to enjoy it as much as it has been lauded in general. I do tend to have a more midfoot strike, so perhaps Andrea's theory about the rolling back on the un-rubbered area has some merit.
Matt, request: A comparison between Asics GT 2000 12 and 13. It is an interesting stability shoe, need your expert view!
@@bluesque9687 will do!! -Matt
@@DoctorsofRunning Thanks! Look fwd to it!
Same shoe...review done lol. Flitefoam Blast Plus bricked up fairly quickly on me on the 12 (400km) and has almost no energy return imo (Maybe it's my weight - 200lbs??) but the stability is fantastic imo.
An idea for a video: film yourselves on a treadmill running. Then analyze running style, pattern, muscle imbalance, weaknesses..etc. eg translate your running style into biomechanics and causes. I would also pay (and maybe you can offer this as a prize / service) for an evaluation of my running + offer exercises to improve.
Hello from Ireland hi guys quick question I love wearing my converse flats when I'm walking around..
I feel they stretch my calf muscles any opinions..
Recently got the vomero 17wow. . after logging up some miles I know they're traditional and will suit some people ( like Jacob ingelbertson.. who i use to be as good as... long time ago during the Coe +Ovett era..
but I really do
prefer brooks and New balance... The ride .. but I still like to traditional low stack shoes that I used in the 80s.. Pegasus then..
I'm a 1 hour for 10 mile guy { well I am 55.. } I love the new balance Rebel 4 and wait for it.. The nike infinity RN4 is actually ok.. for a 3 -5 mile slow roll.😊😢
I’ve got g8,s in my cycling shoes and heat mouldable insoles in my running shoes from dr foot uk. I’ve got a wedge fitted to my g8 right foot cycling shoe as was recommended during my bike fit.
I wish I ran like David, but I think I’m more like Andrea. 54:41 I tend to land midfoot (I’m rare in that I can purposely vary). However, I have a good paw back; i.e. I don’t think I land flat. The Rebel4 has been my shoe of the year. I especially like it for up tempo. I can also go easy.
I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on how different shoes respond differently to different people. I am also wondering about the difference between foot size and cushion. So, while a smaller, lighter person might be able to work better with a less responsive shoe, would a smaller foot size make the compression distributed to a smaller space (bringing more compression focused to a smaller space), whereas a larger foot would be more distributed? If so, would it balance out in the end? On another note, my favorite trainer is the Boston 12 (a firmer shoe). I am not enjoying the NB Rebel 4 as much as I did when I first got it - it seems a bit flat now. What are your thoughts on/have you tried the TYR Speedworks - I'm very curious about this one.
Forgot to say - I am a shorter, lighter runner with a small shoe size 6 1/2 womens, and I think I have a mid-foot strike. To answer your other question, I tend to be closer aligned with David than either of you - but I enjoy hearing your opinions nonetheless.
Give me one of those team andrea shirts after the disrespect matt showed the Mag/madmax
Regarding fit, I use EU sizing because it's more precise.
I use CM sizing. I find it better
The Hoka Clifton 1 vs the remake was not the same foam. Everything else was the same. I had the old pair (which I still have) and the remake side by side and compressing them with your thumb felt different. The original compressed easier than the remake and decompressed quicker than the remake, even though the original had more kilometres on them. I wonder if they where made in the same factory.
The color of the walls is so similar it kinda looks like you’re both in the same room.
Interesting. I was looking into magmax as my cushioned recovery shoe. I am wondering if you guys are amenable to discussing the shoes coming out from brands like Xtep and 360 flame please.
Good evening from Bangkok, Thailand
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If you add up the total miles I’ve ran in my life I don’t think it comes close to the 274mi on those mizunos lol
2nd comment- when are we gonna start discussing morton’s toe folks? 😡
@@MedicineRunner something I have on the docket!!! -Matt
@@DoctorsofRunning hell yea, thanks man!
We got plenty Beacons v3 here in Brazil for sale! They sell for around 70 bucks. I can ship some for you guys 😂
I am surprised you guys didn't discuss the Superblast. I guess you all either feel the same way about it or it's just too controversial or the Superbalist is untouchable.
They feel fairly similar on it.
24:18 you could always do what Brooks did with the Hyperion Max 2 and just use a sheet of paper for the insole 😂
Can you be a heel striking 5km runner and be fast like run 5km in 20min
Why are the shipping times for items in stock so hideous these days. Attempted to order a New Balance shoe was ready to place the order and the arrival date noted was Oct. 24th, with today being Oct. 7th. No thanks.
Shouldn’t it be extremely simple to scan your feet and match it to a shoe these days? Why doesn’t this work, especially since some retailers do have same pretty “advanced” scanners?
Just guessing here but it seems to me that how a particular runner responds to a particular shoe is based on A LOT more than the shape of the person's foot while they're at rest.
You could maybe fit a shoe to a person using analytical methods if you did something like use high resolution/high frequency motion capture, combined with lots of load cells sampling forces at relatively high frequencies, to build a dynamic model of the foot through the complete gait cycle, but you'd need a supercomputer, highly skilled programmers with an understanding of computational physics, and a lot of really expensive equipment. It is probably something the shoe companies have as part of their research and development efforts, and something they do at really advanced academic biomechanics labs, but it isn't something I see being deployed at the neighborhood running store anytime soon. 😅
@@MLHunt I’m thinking of something as simple as a foot scanner already present at retail shops or even the technology used for faceid on the iPhone.