The best part is that he apparently does this every year. Like, seriously, he gets through the entirety of Apokoliptian security in a few seconds, which is absolutely terrifying when you think about it.
Clark: "You say your name is Billy Connelly and you live on Drake Street?" Billy (Linkara): "Uh, no I didn't, mister." Clark (Linkara): "Oh yes you did Billy. In your mind! I can read your thoughts, Billy."
He sees you when you're sleeping He knows when you're awake He knows if you are rich or poor So give up all your belongings Or he'll kidnap you today! Superman is coming to town!
So in a whole day these guys Flew from Metropolis to the North Pole Twice to pick a fight with Santa. Kidnapped Lois Lane TWICE. And they STILL had energy to fight Superman. Yeez, man. I help fix a car for half an hour and I'm already asking people to just bury me there.
14:48 I love how Lois just knows Dr. Crouch well enough to recognize him instantaneously. Maybe that's why they chose to go after The Daily Planet rather than a department store, toy factory, or any other charity that might have toys for Xmas. They were just conveniently nearby and well acquainted.
14:35 Actually, in the original Golden Age continuity, Clark's adopted parents passed away a few years before he became Superman, with them only becoming an important part of his mythos in his Bronze Age era comics.
"Hey, Superman, why don't you stop the genocide in Europe?" "Well, Santa, Europe is OVER THERE, and OVER THERE needs to take care of itself" "Superman, I need to adjust my lists..."
Keelan Barron It was also Halloween, Thanksgiving, April Fool’s Day, Valentine’s Day, New Year’s Day, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, his birthday, and Easter. It was a rather strange day that year
+Jonah Falcon I knew that so it's ironically people get upset over Xmas. Also, it used to be a pagan holiday, there's always been a tradition in northern countries of feasting in the winter after the harvest. Nowadays, there's two kinds of christmas, the religious holiday and the secular celebration. I'm personally the latter. ;)
Eilidh Macleod You should check out this book "The Curious World of Christmas" it's basically a history about Christmas and some of the weirdness it had in the past.
You know I just realized, in a world where Santa is established fact “poor kids not getting Christmas” doesn’t bite as hard, yes they may not have as big of a Christmas as children who aren’t poor because they only have Santa vs Santa and family but they still have something
You know what I find the most hilarious and amusing thing about this comic? The bad guys... honestly have a good idea. Don't get me wrong, their motivations are completely stupid and they're so cartoonish it borders on parody, but their offer to Santa Claus is actually fairly logical given the way the world works in this comic. If a being like Santa Clause exists, and has a labor force that can make all these items and gadgets in house and apparently for little to no cost, then branching out to other products makes legitimate sense. Shipping would also be a nonissue, given Santa makes his yearly deliveries inside of one night to children literally all over the world. You could argue the point of greed, and yeah, I'd have to concede it does sort of undermine the overall message of Christmas, but that comes down to a pragmatism argument and whether the good would outweigh the bad. The only real issue I could see would be the potential impact such actions could have on the job market, but that's the sort of thing these comics would gloss over anyway. And you could still make an argument it wouldn't be too bad in the long run, depending on what products the workshop starts producing. Overthinking things is fun sometimes.
Hey Linkara, thanks for bringing awareness to this comic collection, I actually bought it because of this show. Some stories were silly (Billy Batson buys a gift for Shazam and vice versa), some are stupid (you've read the Teen Titans Christmas Carol, but the Green Lantern / Arrow one was worse), and some are freak'n awesome. In case any of you out there are curious there's a two-page comic where Santa Claus manages to effortlessly slip past Apokolips's defenses just to shove a lump of coal in Darkseid's face before running off without taking a hit. How AWESOME is that!?
2:16 I never noticed the Stockings modeled after the AT4W characters (From left to right: Linkara (or just a normal stocking), Pollo, 90's Kid, Harvey Finevoice, Ninja Style Dancer, Dr. Linksano, and Boffo the Clown)
Anyone got the name on that comic with Impulse justifying Santa's existence that got mentioned in the review? I wanna track it down but i don't know where to start.
The original comics is No Bart, There is No Santa Claus" (from DCU Holiday Bash #3) which is collected in DC Universe Christmas TPB (the one Linkara is using for his review here)
+Solqueen86 To act as a reminder to people to get on their Christmas shopping early if they want to make sure to include everyone (and thus buy more presents which means more money for retailers).That Arkham Knight PS4 Bundle for Gamesmaster35 isn't gonna buy itself you know...Get on that shit.
So, if Santa is perfectly willing to give Grouch and Meaney presents for being murderous assholes, why did they never get anything before? Did Santa forget to visit them every year and just suddenly remembered once they turned evil? Or did they just spring fully formed from some well of anti-Christmas evil?
I like the horrible motivation, it's actually kind of fun. Imagine how far they could take it into ridiculous levels? "Because I burned my mouth on the cheese on a pizza the day before last week now no one can enjoy pizza at all! Prepare the anchovy beam!"
I do apologize if someone said this, but Meaney is a real last name. The most notable example I can think of is Colm Neaney, who played Chief O'Brian in Star Trek.
With as many times Santa has had to deal with people trying to ruin Christmas, I wouldn't be surprised of the Elves weren't used to beating up old men trying to destroy Santa's workshop! No wonder some media depicts Santa as a B@D@$$ Action Hero!
In those days, the super rich would have a small (but expensive) brownstones in the city to stay during the work week from Monday Night to Thursday night, take Friday off and stay in the mansion on Friday to Monday Morning.
I understand Grouch-Meany is on the ballot for 2024. I have to say I have a soft spot for cartoonishly evil villains. Sure, it's nice to have villains with motivation and inner conflict and tragedy, your Darth Vaders and Two Faces and Dr Octopus, but then there's villains who just turn the pettiest thing into ridiculous overblown revenge or really just want to kick stuff. THAT STILL DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD GET OFF THAT EASY THIS IS RISE OF SKYWALKER BAD.
While smoke detectors were invented in 1890, the first smoke detectors hit the US market in 1951. Even then, they were mostly limited to commercial and warehouse buildings due to how expensive they were. Even by 1963, they were pretty rare.
Sending a Pulitzer prize winning journalist to cover window displays? Alrightly then... Also, how big is that family in the title card. There must be at least 7 stockings lol
+Andrew Krska To be fair, think about all the super-villains the DC universe has. Compared to what they do, Grouch and Meanie's acts are small potatoes.
And of course no explanation given as to why Santa doesn't deliver toys to poor children. Though this is a problem in pretty much any story involving an actual Santa.
And once again, the tradition continues! Also: Superman: "You say your name is Billy Connelly and you live on Drake Street?" Billy Connelly: "Ooo ay. D'ye like m'house? So far back on th'lot when ye get through the front gate ye still got half a mile t'go! We hire folks tae rake the gravel back in place when folks disturb it!"
weird thought, but do you think the girl with the broken doll might be the lady from Brother Power? I mean, kid in the forties, brother power takes place in the 1960s. I only ponder because the later incarnations of the character involve a lot of dolls and pupppets, plus the geek is more raggedy than Anne and Andy combined. just some odd musings.
Hell..if I recall correctly there's this one comic where Santa Claus went to Apokolips to give Darkseid coal.
The best part is that he apparently does this every year. Like, seriously, he gets through the entirety of Apokoliptian security in a few seconds, which is absolutely terrifying when you think about it.
@@callianr6980 He must be better than the Flash and Mister Miracle COMBINED!
I need to find a copy of that.
@@callianr6980 He's also capable of either tanking or dodging Omega Beams
Santa's got some serious balls
"I can read your thoughts billy"
Lol the way he said made me die from laughing
"Superman is always watching."
"Ah, Doctor Grouch. Of the Boston Grouchs no doubt."
Favorite Linkara line!
Godzillasaur Buttersworth At least Meaney is a *real* last name. I know of Meaneys, but not any Grouchs.
Not to be confused with the Chippewa Falls Grouchs
His first name wouldn't be Oscar would it?
Apparently, his family must be clinging to their Puritan roots about hating Christmas
Man, you always crack me up with this ''over there'' reference.
Clark: "You say your name is Billy Connelly and you live on Drake Street?"
Billy (Linkara): "Uh, no I didn't, mister."
Clark (Linkara): "Oh yes you did Billy. In your mind! I can read your thoughts, Billy."
One has to wonder, were Grouch and Meaney born with those names, or did they change them years later to reflect their contrived, curmudgeonly ways?
Must be a Judas Traveller's kind of deal
+TPrower know comics of the time and aliterationj they were probably born Gerry Grouch and Marcus Meenie
I mean... if I got up to a plan like this, I'd go for codenames myself. :P
He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you are rich or poor
So give up all your belongings
Or he'll kidnap you today!
Superman is coming to town!
Maybe the reason the toys were fixed, is because superman used his eye repairing abilities, as seen in superman 4 quest four peace.
Have you seen the Nostalgia Critic/AT4W review of Superman 4?
yes
+Team Super Su One of my favorite reviews of theirs.
They really improved on the Superman Quest series since Superman Quest three peace.
@@alexanderfix3629 that's actually the review that made look up Linkara's show
So in a whole day these guys
Flew from Metropolis to the North Pole Twice to pick a fight with Santa.
Kidnapped Lois Lane TWICE.
And they STILL had energy to fight Superman.
Yeez, man. I help fix a car for half an hour and I'm already asking people to just bury me there.
These are the most hyper senior citizens ever. I'm 30 and I get tired after a mild jog
Back in the golden age Clark’s parents were dead and none of Lois’ family had been established in 1940
14:48 I love how Lois just knows Dr. Crouch well enough to recognize him instantaneously.
Maybe that's why they chose to go after The Daily Planet rather than a department store, toy factory, or any other charity that might have toys for Xmas. They were just conveniently nearby and well acquainted.
Billy Connelly grew up to be the only guy to die in a Muppet movie.
14:35 Actually, in the original Golden Age continuity, Clark's adopted parents passed away a few years before he became Superman, with them only becoming an important part of his mythos in his Bronze Age era comics.
"Hey, Superman, why don't you stop the genocide in Europe?"
"Well, Santa, Europe is OVER THERE, and OVER THERE needs to take care of itself"
"Superman, I need to adjust my lists..."
10:14 "Chazz it up, Jimmy!"
Palpatine was going to call some of his minions Dr. Grouch and Mr. Meany, but he decided it would be too silly.
The villains clearly never read their Tolkien-Elves will totally kick your ass
did anyone else notice the stockings are all themed for each of linkara's pals.
"HA! EAT IT BATMAN!"
XD
Keelan Barron It was also Halloween, Thanksgiving, April Fool’s Day, Valentine’s Day, New Year’s Day, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, his birthday, and Easter. It was a rather strange day that year
I wouldn't say Dr. Grouch is an unrealistic name. The chief doctor of our local hospital is called Dr. Savage xD
Vandal Savage?
+Wren Dean I don't know his first name, but it would be quite awesome if this truly were his full name xD
I wonder if he tells people to just call him Doc Savage
Bookdragon Adam Savage from myth busters
Theres also Doug Savage, the creator of Savage Chickens and Derek Savage the creator of Cool Cat.
14:25 Originally, Kents were dead by the time Clark became Superman. Them being alive only became a thing Post-Crisis.
Fun fact, Lewis: X-Mas was used back in the 15th century by priests, because X meant Christ.
+Jonah Falcon I also read it was used as army shorthand too.
+Jonah Falcon I knew that so it's ironically people get upset over Xmas. Also, it used to be a pagan holiday, there's always been a tradition in northern countries of feasting in the winter after the harvest. Nowadays, there's two kinds of christmas, the religious holiday and the secular celebration. I'm personally the latter. ;)
+Eilidh Macleod Lewis let me know he posted a note in the end credits and I missed it LOL
+Jonah Falcon Not the end credits, but in the Ruminations. Click "Show More" on the episode description. ^_~
Eilidh Macleod
You should check out this book "The Curious World of Christmas" it's basically a history about Christmas and some of the weirdness it had in the past.
Ah, my first episode of AT4W… Good times!
Not a bad place to start.
The "I can read your thoughts, Billy" always cracks me up
That Chazz Princeton cut in was glorious.
+john benko jr actual show
+john benko jr The actual English dub of Yu-Gi-Oh GX.
+john benko jr The actual show but I can understand your confusion.
I wonder if link has seen the subbed version of gx
You know I just realized, in a world where Santa is established fact “poor kids not getting Christmas” doesn’t bite as hard, yes they may not have as big of a Christmas as children who aren’t poor because they only have Santa vs Santa and family but they still have something
7:59 *Superman! Defender of truth, guardian of justice, Kidnapper of children!*
8:00 No, it's fine, we'll just call it an adoption!
in eternia we call this a kidnapping!
Sandy: Wesley! There’s trouble downtown!
Sandman: I can’t find my gas gun!
I rewatch this every year on Christmas and I JUST noticed the title card's stockings hung by the chimney represent each of the characters on the show.
You know what I find the most hilarious and amusing thing about this comic?
The bad guys... honestly have a good idea.
Don't get me wrong, their motivations are completely stupid and they're so cartoonish it borders on parody, but their offer to Santa Claus is actually fairly logical given the way the world works in this comic.
If a being like Santa Clause exists, and has a labor force that can make all these items and gadgets in house and apparently for little to no cost, then branching out to other products makes legitimate sense. Shipping would also be a nonissue, given Santa makes his yearly deliveries inside of one night to children literally all over the world. You could argue the point of greed, and yeah, I'd have to concede it does sort of undermine the overall message of Christmas, but that comes down to a pragmatism argument and whether the good would outweigh the bad.
The only real issue I could see would be the potential impact such actions could have on the job market, but that's the sort of thing these comics would gloss over anyway. And you could still make an argument it wouldn't be too bad in the long run, depending on what products the workshop starts producing.
Overthinking things is fun sometimes.
Hey Linkara, thanks for bringing awareness to this comic collection, I actually bought it because of this show. Some stories were silly (Billy Batson buys a gift for Shazam and vice versa), some are stupid (you've read the Teen Titans Christmas Carol, but the Green Lantern / Arrow one was worse), and some are freak'n awesome. In case any of you out there are curious there's a two-page comic where Santa Claus manages to effortlessly slip past Apokolips's defenses just to shove a lump of coal in Darkseid's face before running off without taking a hit. How AWESOME is that!?
did anyone notice that Grouch and Meany have a COLOUR tv in the fourties? ;)
French Paul 1988 TV was invented in 1930.
They invented a spaceship in the forties. I'm guessing that a color tv wasn't hard for them.
7:40~ In cities there aren't really mansions, the super-wealthy live in giant luxury penthouses.
Yeah heck Bruce Wayne even did that and so did our current Carrot in Chief
3:33 Also, as TFS showed us, even Santa himself. 😂
I'd imagine the rich kid's 'apartment' would be more of a penthouse, as owning a mansion isn't usually feasible if you're smack dab in a city.
2:16 I never noticed the Stockings modeled after the AT4W characters
(From left to right: Linkara (or just a normal stocking), Pollo, 90's Kid, Harvey Finevoice, Ninja Style Dancer, Dr. Linksano, and Boffo the Clown)
Anyone got the name on that comic with Impulse justifying Santa's existence that got mentioned in the review? I wanna track it down but i don't know where to start.
The original comics is No Bart, There is No Santa Claus" (from DCU Holiday Bash #3) which is collected in DC Universe Christmas TPB (the one Linkara is using for his review here)
I really hope that Linkara & Superman did not leave out the Warrior X-Mas comic for pore Santa to read 2:10
This is one of the best episodes of AT4W.
I just finished a bunch of finals crap for school. I got so many laugh out of this video. Golden age comics are great to make fun of.
This is one of your best reviews, Linkara. Keep up the good work! I hope you're doing well under the pandemic.
Given there are already Christmas decorations in the stores already it pretty much is Christmas right now
+Solqueen86 Why do they do that? We haven't even had Halloween yet. Let alone Thanks Giving.
FaceUnreality
It's all about the Benjamins baby
+Solqueen86 To act as a reminder to people to get on their Christmas shopping early if they want to make sure to include everyone (and thus buy more presents which means more money for retailers).That Arkham Knight PS4 Bundle for Gamesmaster35 isn't gonna buy itself you know...Get on that shit.
Stories where Santa is undeniably real have always struck me as odd. Does he just ignore poor children?
5:31 Oh yes you did Billy in your mind!... I can read your thoughts Billy 22:57 Superman is watching
this is by far my fave xmass ep of ATT4W
Man, you're never going to let that Superman 701 thing go are you?
letting it go stays over there! so they won't be over here!
+Garrett Knisley Telling him to get over that comic is like telling him to get over One More Day. LOL
I dont think he has nearly the hate for it that he does Spidey but it just makes good jokes
It still gives good jokes
10:50 - This part always gets me.
Dear lord, Dr. Grouch! Silver Age Lex Luthor is telling you to dial down the cartoony evil levels.
Wow, somehow I missed this one. Thanks for reposting it here.
7:34 If Metropolis is the analog to New York City... Dude, have you seen the rent in Manhattan? It's become a weird status symbol for the rich.
So, if Santa is perfectly willing to give Grouch and Meaney presents for being murderous assholes, why did they never get anything before? Did Santa forget to visit them every year and just suddenly remembered once they turned evil? Or did they just spring fully formed from some well of anti-Christmas evil?
Well they would not get them as adults and when kids the Naughty lists trumps them getting them......but as adults the naighty list no longer applies
Lewis, thanks for pointing me towards this one. It's delightfully insane!
0:48 Why does Bart Allen keep getting drawn like that? I keep thinking he's an eight year old girl.
Just hit me: this may be the first comic I've seen of Santa's reindeer actually being shown as actual reindeer.
So does this Santa NOT have a naughty list?!
Man, I thought Harry Potter was too nice to the villains....
Time for my annual holiday watching of the ballad of Grouch and Meanie.
7:58 ATOPthe4thwall out of context
6:54 is this what Alfred was doing before he met the Wayne’s?
22:09 Change Your Mind in a nutshell.
Not really.this is far worse
I just realized, this is the DC Comics version of The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t.
I like the horrible motivation, it's actually kind of fun. Imagine how far they could take it into ridiculous levels? "Because I burned my mouth on the cheese on a pizza the day before last week now no one can enjoy pizza at all! Prepare the anchovy beam!"
I have read another Christmas Superman comic with The Toymaker as the villian, I wonder if that was the other Christmas special he was mentioning?
I do apologize if someone said this, but Meaney is a real last name. The most notable example I can think of is Colm Neaney, who played Chief O'Brian in Star Trek.
12:29. Considering a lot of those toys aren't even reaching children, they've got a good argument.
With as many times Santa has had to deal with people trying to ruin Christmas, I wouldn't be surprised of the Elves weren't used to beating up old men trying to destroy Santa's workshop! No wonder some media depicts Santa as a B@D@$$ Action Hero!
In those days, the super rich would have a small (but expensive) brownstones in the city to stay during the work week from Monday Night to Thursday night, take Friday off and stay in the mansion on Friday to Monday Morning.
Golden Age comics are...gold for riffing.
Chazz it up, Billy!
easy to forgive ridiculously evil guys: Episode IX Rise of Santa Claus
Jimmy James art of negotiating 😂😂😂 news radio one of the best sitcoms all time
I understand Grouch-Meany is on the ballot for 2024. I have to say I have a soft spot for cartoonishly evil villains. Sure, it's nice to have villains with motivation and inner conflict and tragedy, your Darth Vaders and Two Faces and Dr Octopus, but then there's villains who just turn the pettiest thing into ridiculous overblown revenge or really just want to kick stuff.
THAT STILL DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD GET OFF THAT EASY THIS IS RISE OF SKYWALKER BAD.
DRIPPY LIGHTS!!!
My family loves that style of Christmas lights.
Linkara, If you could spend Christmas, with any one of the DC Universes Super Villains, who would you choose? Me, Killer Frost.
Eh, I'd rather go with Heat Wave. I live in Canada, I need the heat.
lmao UA-cams recommendations are always timely
Santa! Grouch and Meanie have kidnapped your reindeer!
I lost it reading that. That sums this comic up perfectly I think XD
22:48 Or else I’ll take you in the middle of the night! Superman is watching…
5:21 Clark Kent came to work drunk that day. The young boy said no such thing. Man that was funny as hell.
20:19 SUCK IT SHAZAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Shyamalan Twist: This comic is a direct prequel to Kamandi at World's End with the Super Santa.
While smoke detectors were invented in 1890, the first smoke detectors hit the US market in 1951. Even then, they were mostly limited to commercial and warehouse buildings due to how expensive they were. Even by 1963, they were pretty rare.
Scrooge was actually pretty active in ruining people's lives in his younger years.
13:50 I don't know why, but that line always kills me. XD
14:44 "I'll pretend unconsciousness"
My...my inner grammar nazi........can't......can't take that.....
Yeah...as someone who's an amateur writer; that just sounds wrong to me.
10:04 that was a great clip from yugioh gx abridged. it's too bad they're not making more episodes.
wait a minute.
Sending a Pulitzer prize winning journalist to cover window displays? Alrightly then...
Also, how big is that family in the title card. There must be at least 7 stockings lol
Chaz always knows what's up.
Ah, yes. Dr. Jack A. Grouch and Mr. Dick Meaney.
Superman believes in sabta clause man i love sups
Please tell me there was a story of santa beating up nazis with captain America
And may Frank Miller NEVER do a Christmas Comic
“The Fixer and Crazy Steve save Christmas”
"Or sent Clark into the otherworld."
Is this another one of those obscure references to comics that I don't usually get?
What do you have to do in the DCU to get on Santa's naughty list? Apparently vandalism, kidnapping, and attempted murder aren't naughty enough.
+Andrew Krska To be fair, think about all the super-villains the DC universe has. Compared to what they do, Grouch and Meanie's acts are small potatoes.
The Naughty List only applies to children since they are the only ones normally supposed to get gifts
And of course no explanation given as to why Santa doesn't deliver toys to poor children. Though this is a problem in pretty much any story involving an actual Santa.
And once again, the tradition continues! Also:
Superman: "You say your name is Billy Connelly and you live on Drake Street?"
Billy Connelly: "Ooo ay. D'ye like m'house? So far back on th'lot when ye get through the front gate ye still got half a mile t'go! We hire folks tae rake the gravel back in place when folks disturb it!"
Santa in that commercial at the end looks really creepy.
Krypto-Ray Guns~
weird thought, but do you think the girl with the broken doll might be the lady from Brother Power? I mean, kid in the forties, brother power takes place in the 1960s.
I only ponder because the later incarnations of the character involve a lot of dolls and pupppets, plus the geek is more raggedy than Anne and Andy combined.
just some odd musings.
Even if the reindeer were knocked out for 24 hours, all Meaney would have accomplished is make Christmas come a day late.
And Merry Christmas from 2023! EAT IT BATMAN.
LOVED the GX clip
You else wish what Chaz said was how life really worked.
Amen to that man
merry christmas in september
You forgot the Warrior in your list of people out to destroy Christmas.
4:43 uh, chef. It's March.
16:53 "What kind of Wil E. Coyote bullshit is that?"
0:50 is that Cain? That's a bit random.
14:44 Doc, if you're going to wear a mask to disguise your face, you probably shouldn't wear something as recognizable and distinct as a bowler hat.