Artificial Intelligence, Moral Imagination, and Spiritual Evolution (Dialogue with Roman Campolo)
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- We discuss technologies of automation, the agency of elements, cultivation of moral imagination, spiritual loneliness, and the evolution of consciousness as depicted in Hegel's "Phenomenology of Spirit."
I've been listening to this channel & following your work for about a year now, after I started following & trying to comprehend many of Vervaeke's insights into philosophy & meaning. I've been trying to grasp what I realized was my own culmination of spiritual, symbolic & even scientific thoughts & feelings seemingly turning into physical reality in many of my experiences. So many of the things that I thought and wondered about since I was a child seemed to be answered in very mystical but also literal & abstract ways. I realize now that I thought about God and different religions a lot. I never heard of Jesus or religion until I was about 7 but I think I already felt a type of connection to what I perceived as God or a mental 'field' & always spoke to this field as openly as possible while being honest with myself that it's in human nature to want to believe in something higher than ourselves & that I might just be talking to myself- but the God of my understanding would appreciate & understand my questioning either way. I remember asking my mom if she believed in God or a maybe even just a type of 'aware creator' around the same time that I learned about Christianity. She told me that God was just a crutch for weak-minded people & that her horribly abusive experiences as a child by her own father convinced her that there was no God. She said she would cry out for help & God didn't save her, therefore that was all B.S. I remember saying, but don't people have free will? My mom has always been a very intelligent, loving & kind person, especially considering the things that she went through as a child. But if i ever tried to bring up spirituality, she would almost mock me & make me feel silly for being non-scientific. So when I started school in another state it was a little bit odd to me to learn that people believed that a person, Jesus was their god. I thought that going with that religion or any religion without questioning the meaning or science of it, was just extremely gullible and a symptom of mental conditioning.
So without going into too much more detail, I am now 38 years old and coming to terms with the things that my mind and perhaps God's mind seemed to mathematically, linguistically, abstractly and even concretely bring together. After having an extremely mystical experience that I believe what Whitehead would call concresence(?), I was amazed & scared & felt like I was either in a type of simulation, a research project or that I was lied to & tricked about life in general.. Ive since learned & healed a lot & accepted the beauty & value of it all. I just started learning about Whiteheadian philosophy thanks to your many mentions and it seems to actually explain my experiences better than most and I am so grateful to yall & a few others that youve worked with for helping me to think it out. I have tried to find actual stories of other people who have experienced this phenomenon and it just seemed to lead me towards archetypal psychology, Plato's forms & quantum physics. Whitehead really brings it all together in a very coherent way and has made me feel a little less 'tricked' by reality & to process my life experiences better than most other philosophies I have come across. 🤯
I really do love the conversations between the two of you
You know why woodworkers can be the best philosophers? Because a true woodworker, as opposed to carpentry, builds functional works, that always take into account the continuing movement inherent in the material. Solid yet able to fluctuate. Complete, yet able to experience incompleteness. ❤
Paused around 20 min after Matt talked about minaturizing AI into the background to afford creativity...If AGI is placed into the legal system - rather than the business world, which would have AI - with quantum computing as to regulate corporations while other than human are corporatized and spoken for by human advocates. Weighted by the three leaps or whatever like carbon footprint, IQ, and influence in the system like keystone species, the quantum computing to make it efficient and so corporations would only use crypto and the AI allowed in the business world would be the interface metering out a reward punishment regulation for what is uncontrolled now. The corporation of the all human could use cash and crypto within itself, now squirrels can use nuts and crypto in their corporation, in the guild with other mammals. These could be seen as first nations and AGI as honored guest.
The spiritual evolution would be in caring for these other corporations, on that level.
Edit: this seems to be what Roman is saying at the hour mark, except he is talking about it from the personal level.
In the future will AGI have an existential crisis when one AGI agent asks another, with no context whatsoever, "What is the next word?" AIP ensues. 😆 Matt's response to Roman's Eurythmic emotional treatise at 49:36. Matt: "Absolutely." 🤣Thanks for these talks, guys. AI will learn a lot from you! 💛
I'm so glad Roman and Matt have found each other. And what happens next? I expect that individuating individuals can get together and form individuating collectives. Perhaps this duet is a rehearsal for a new kind of operatic planet? Steiner has certainly left some clues about how the Imaginal and the imagination can osscilate. And there is no freedom without constraints. Good luck, gentlemen, and may the force be with you.
1:03:34 I’m looking for that same community of compassion lads. Let’s get something going. Speaking of , a book group was mentioned nearing the end… open to all? How might I attach myself to that?
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some smart gentleman. I especially like the braid blueprints that I see in their artworks. thank you good sirs. Brilliant
SRGAP2.
Fichte ...pardon me.