I have the 16" MTR on mine, from the factory. all my groups at 50 yards are within 1/2 inch. the targets are 25 1/4 inch circles and I hit 15 to 23 of the circles with Eley. my dad used to say that "a good rooster can sing in any chicken coup." the length of the barrel is irrelevant if you know your windage and elevation. use the flags correctly and you'll get there
Love my CZ 457 vptmtr, the 16” barrel works well for me with the suppressor as it keeps the overall length in check. Also seems to get decent velocity out of standard velocity ammo. Targets out to 280 are no issue, trying further targets soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I've got the same rifle, I absolutely love it. It makes the Ruger Precision I owned feel like a Red Ryder. I run a Gemtech on mine, yes the zero shifts.
I don't really like to give out a whole lot of praise to people shooting 22s because over a lifetime of shooting it just varies so much but you're very good I love your attitude your calm demeanor and you're one of the only guys that doesn't blame something else when you know one whole one shot goes out of the hole you say I might have pulled it it's a flyer which is usually the truth and it's refreshing to see that and hear that
I just purchased a used 457 pro varmint with the 16.5 barrel. Like you I wasnt a fan of that barrel but liked the threaded barrel. This is not an MTR. A guy at the range told me to throw a Ultradyne Apollo Max on it and it would improve the groups. He runs the range and said he had seen other guys do it and tighten their groups. I just happened to have one laying around loose and put it on. I really dont know what the deal is but it tightened up the groups. I dont shoot exotic ammo like you do and was shooting CCI Standard and Federal Auto Match that day. MOA or less at 100. I will try the 50 next time out. Love your page
Beautiful rifle! Good shooting. I saw one a couple months ago, went back to really check it out, and the shop tried to push off the VPT Camo as an MTR. I wasn't buying it. Nice gun, but I wanted the Match chamber. I'm with you on the 16" barrel. I like an 18-20" for handling and velocity. I managed to come across a CZ 457 Long Range Precision .22LR 20" Rifle. CZ-02380 It has the same Match chamber as the MTR. It's almost identical to the model sold in the UK less the big rubberized ball on the bolt handle and a muzzle brake. I really like the stock it comes in. It's not a Manners stock, but I believe it provides better options for the shooter; at least for me. And I'll probably get a 28 hole blued brake from Kidd to put on it. Happy shooting!
@@PursuitofAccuracy yes quiet is nice, I live in Canada and suppressors are illegal. And yeah the ballistics by the inch website shows some strange data where the same round will shoot slower out of a 17 inch barrel than a 16" but then also shoot faster from an 18" than a 17". I can attribute this to a final shockwave bouncing back from the chamber to the projectile around the 18" mark. But I'm not a scientist or a gunsmith haha. Either way, great videos dude. I just ordered my mtr recently after watching one of your video's, among others!
It's my second watch of this video. It is interesting to rewatch the evolution of your rifle after seeing all of your vids. I too don't like the 16" barrel appearance.
CZ 457 Varmint MTR moved it from the beautiful wood stock to an Oryx chassis & love it. Might have a wood working friend take the wood stock & see about cutting the cheek piece out then use a couple of steel rods to make an adjustable cheek riser.
Actually, there is a version over this one with a different manners stock. It also has a adjustable cheek riser. It is the varmint precision trainer MTR 16". It retails for 1400.00.
Great video Josh. Wish I had a range like yours in the backyard. Interesting, that it does well with the Center X ammo, my MTR loves the Sk rifle match ammo a little more. I shot a .34” at 50y and about .80 at 100y
I believe that cz helps you out on all the new equipment you have or you have a nice cash flow or you are like me just cant pass up the latest and greatest I have seven cz rifles now I have to get this one thanks Josh. But rest assured I love me some cz.
Have the exact rifle. Ive not found it to be particularly finicky with quality ammo. Ive managed MOA 5 strings with Remmington bucket stuff. With match ELY or SK sub MOA isnt a stretch. I dont however have the best glass ( most expensive). I use a Vortex HD 4×12. Great rifles for guys chasing groups.
Excellent review! I shoot exactly the same rifle/scope/rings/mount and riser. I do have the 16" barrel and it will shoot .349 all day with Lapua OSP, strange I know but the OSP seems to shoot better than Center X or RWS R50. RWS Special Match consistently groups will under half MOA. The real test is 25 shots, one shot each on a half-inch paster at 50 yards
Thank God there's somebody out there that's going to say 25 round groups I mean I I like to say 50 and then throw out a couple flyers and that's what that ammo's going to shoot in your gun clean the barrel if you change ammo and do it again so thank God somebody thinks 25 ground groups matter
I have the 16" version. I am on the fence about changing it to a 20". I have a varmint and love it. Both have a spot in my inventory. I do shoot the MTR more. I may pick a 20" and but the 16" on my varmint. I dont know. Great video. Thank you.
Now I want one for my mtr. Great video by the way . That’s a very accurate rifle for sure. But you half to factor in the shooter behind the rifle also . I think your a great shot sir .
I have the Synthetic model. When i was researching the models it said online and in the paperwork when i picked it up that it had a match chambered barrel. So far, I've seen nothing to prove it's not a match chamber. If anyone can tell me otherwise....
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the feedback I have the green one with think 20” barrel was thinking of replacing it with a threaded barrel. Have a suppressor if I ever get a stamp back. Trying to decide what barrel I want to go with.
I love that stock. My Mtr had the 16.5 barrel. Shot great. But balance to me was a issue. I have a lothar 18 on it now balance is much better. But I come from a using a weihrauch 660mm barrel. So its a adjustment when switching rifles.
I shoot the 457 Jaguar (28.5in barrel). 300 rounds of Eley Match through it...and I LOVE it. Shooting iron sights is humbling..i have shot a few sub 1/2 inch groups at 25 meters (2 MOA)
A CZ 457 is the next firearm on my buy list, but I promised my self and my significant others that I would wait until my birthday six month's from now. (They did just let me buy a bolt action 300 Blackout) Promises. 😒 But hey, it gives me time to save up for exactly the one I want. 👍🏻 I'm a fan of aluminum chassis, so I'm thinking about the Varmint Precision Chassis MTR. Or maybe look for a used 457 American for the action and build one from there.
Really love my cv 457 vpt-mtr 16" mtr barrel works good for me mine likes norma 22 match, sk black box and lapua cx. I'm still looking for a lija barrel (going to move the mtr barrel to my pro varmint cz) and have been on the waiting list for a scar trigger for a year now
I watch ya quite a bit. I got varmint. Out of the box. Not the mtr. After around 350 rds 22lr) at 50. Mine shoots 1/4 to 3/8 all the time. 3/4 to 1 inch at 100. Mine is just the standard varmint. Norma tac. 1100fps. And gemtech 1020 fps. Mine didn't shoot with any consistency until that 300 to 400 rds. They really are an accurate tac driver. The trigger to me on these czs are what a guy has to know. Once you learn that the hit where you aim. Amazing accurracy for 5 bills. I've got an airmax 4 12 40 ao on top of mine. HAWKE. Seems to be a good combo. Like your videos. Maybe your wife will let you get that voodoo some day.😅😅😁😁. Great educational videos. Great work.
Josh, is your barrel free floated all the way up to the action? My varmint MTR stock is, but when I swap the action into the Manners VPT. There is barrel contact about 1” from the receiver. Thanks for all the fun videos
Hey Josh, loving all your vids man. I used to run CZ's (452/453/455), then i thought i'd try a Bergara B-14R. It shoots ragged holes at 50 yards with SK Standard Plus, but i'll always have a soft spot for CZ. It's like you regularly say "It's personal preference". I read somewhere that .22 RF ammo gets a full burn at around 12"?, i'm guessing barrel length is what the shooter feels comfortable with. ATB from across the pond.
Hate to burst your bubble, but the CZ site states the 16.5 inch barrel has a complete powder burn. Also its stiffer which will provide a better set of harmonics.
I tend to like 24 or 26" barrels simply because they are so quiet. To me there is nothing more satisfying than plinking without ear pro and barely hearing a pop... Not that a 16" barrel is loud, but it's just a little more annoying
Nice info on the rifle. Do you not wear hearing protection? First 3-4 years of my shooting career i used crappy ear muffs and I now have tinnitus. Not counting the thousands of rounds I put down a 22 as a kid. Lost my high range and I'm not even 40 yet.
I wear ear pro when i get away from the subsonic match ammo. Should probably wear it all the time but the 22lr with the match ammo and longer barrels is so quiet
Is it necessary to clean the barrel , each time u change ammo for testing 🤔, I would figure on it wouldn't matter. Like in high end air gun they say most don't clean them. Seems like after a couple shots it would be self cleaning and want lead in barrel to fill any minor imperfections 🤔
@@davep3163 typically a 400 or so depending on the barrel. I use a nylon brush and cotton patches. 2 wet patches with boretec, let it sit, nylon brush wet with boretec about a dozen times, then dry patches
For myself I will never put anything metal down my bores of any weapon.......It's always nylon brushes coupled with cotton patches......First I always use patches with some WD-40 and if that doesn't do it then it's Tetra gun solvent for 15 minutes then dry patch it out. For all my guns that will sit over the Illinois winters I use lots of Corrosion-X on a patch then when winter is over I dry patch each barrel again for the start of my shooting season.
If i was changing barrels ,i wouldnt use another CZ barrel .I would get a custom made barrel known for 22rf accuracy . I have bore scoped a lot of CZ barrels and there are flaws in all of them
I have a lilja in my competition 457. The lilja outshoots the mtr barrel but the mtr is no slouch and i sometimes shoot in priduction and have to have a bone stock rifle for that class
Good shooting. How would you compare that stock with the walnut stock? Better ergonomics? The reason I ask is I shoot the walnut mtr left handed and I’ve been looking for more of a ambidextrous option, although I’ve gotten used to it.
I like both but i think the manners is superior. Its inletting is tighter and the aluminum pillar beds are a step up from the plastic on the walnut mtr stock. Ergonomically the manners is better for me but im a righty......may feel different to you
Not sure, but I thought max velocity for 22 came somewhere between a 16" and 18" inch barrel. Doesn't CZ say that 20" and 24" barrels are mostly about balance and aesthetic preference, not necessary for .22 lr accuracy.
@@PursuitofAccuracy So in what way is a longer barrel better for results when the gun is used with a scope? Or do you just like longer than 16" barrels?
When you changed the barrel on your custom rifle did you set it up to glue into action.read a build that talked a little about it, wanted to here your thought if that’s really necessary to get that 180yard aspirin/card splitting accuracy. Or do you leave it so you can do fast barrel changes
Could you do a comparison video between this rifle the vptmtr and a B14R ? For the price of this CZ around 1500 compared to the b14r around 900. Which one shoots the best? Thanks
Recently started to look into CZ 457's and came across your channel. Love your content! I am currently in the market and would like an upper end CZ. Was looking into this model you are shooting as well as the CZ 457 VPC MTR and the CZ 457 VPT MTR. What are your thoughts on those?
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply! They all seem like they are so hard to come by! I have only had luck finding them on gunbroker and you pay premium price there. Any other suggestions on places to look?
Hey buddy awesome awesome, love this channel, what state are you in ? We are in tn and no cz stuff hardly at all, I have a 457 synthetic its a shooter about to go line up my new burris e1 6.5-20x50, replacing my 4-12 so hoping my groups shrink
Excellent presentation. I agree with your assessment about a any barrel less than 20” will never be on any of my target rifles. I have a CZ and I would never put 16” barrel on even if CZ gave me the top of the line match barrel. Yes it is a personal preference 😉 it just looks weird too me 🤔
My favorite model 457 is the Jaguar. I’ve not shot any ammo it doesn’t like yet and I’ve shot some crappy blazer, federal champion, and winchesters. The 12 groove rifling of the jaguar just loves everything. Best match ammo I’ve shot is eley match 1050 speed and Lapua Midas+ 26 speed. Liked the forst one so much I now have 3 Jaguars and none of them are picky about ammo at all.
Every ammo has shot MOA or stupid sub MOA groups so far in the Jaguars I own. Best groupings were with eley match the 1051 fps lot. 5 consecutive groups under .2 . I Honestly think the jaguar is a hidden gem in the 457 lineup.
I’ve had the pro varmint and MTR and since I got the first jaguar I’ve sold the other to buy more cats. Love those things a lot. You should get one for the channel.
I have a cz457 VPT. I am looking to upgrade the barrel on it. Between your mtr barrel with its preferred best ammo and the lilja barrel with it preferred best ammo at around 200yds, which is the better more accurate option? Is the difference between the two significant? The lilja barrel is roughly $200 more than the cz mtr barrel. Thanks for the videos and info thus far!!!
I think the lilja is worth the extra $$ just because you can set the headspace on it. The eley match has been best out of both the mtr barrel and the lilja. Hope this helps
@@tiltedflip4491 im not sure how i thought i could put golf tees in the target hanger and not expect myself to try and shoot them.....🤣🤣 Im easily distracted and somehow my 52 yard backstop seems to be a dragon fly landing pad......... you can guess what the end result is there
Hey mate, I have a CZ 457 AT - One in an container traveling to Australia. I’m told it’s CZ developed for Australia, imported through Winchester. I’ve noticed you’ve never viewed a barrel tuner. Would you consider a tuner worth the expense. I was looking at an EC tuner. But with a varmit barrel at 16 inches, would you consider it worth while. Cheers
I have the regular VPT that came with the 16.5 barrel. Was shooting sub .300 groups at 50 yards and at 100 yards maybe averaging 1" or so. Switched to the 20" MTR barrel and my 50yard groups opened up a little to just under .400 but the 100 yard is better at 3/4" average with a few ammos. Any ideas about why the 16.5" falls off past 50 yards?
Nothing scientific. Rimifre is finicky and you will see ammo do that quite often. I find ammo that sucks at 50 and beats everything else i have at 200 yards.
Its hard to say honestly. There are so many factors at that distance. Typically a vudoo or rimx do start pulling away at 200+ yards because of the controlled feed but the cz feed is so smooth im not sure how much gain there actually is. I do plan on going vudoo vs cz at around 300 yards soon. Jons vudoo and his new ammo shoots the same SD my cz and its ammo shoots so i think thats the best way to test that.
We havent even got to the real expensive stuff yet.......but certainly a cz 452 is a very accurate rifle. My rifles are purpose built for prs style shooting
@@PursuitofAccuracy Most accurate rimfires I have are both BSA made. One is a Century and the other a International MK2. Happy shooting and catch you next time.
Very nice Rifles I have one myself and I have the Precision varmint trainer I replace the barrel with a match barrel that comes treaded and it’s also Fluted makes the rifle look really cool Tacticool About the test how come everybody test at 50 yards and claim half MOA or better I think it’s misleading because you can duplicate that at 100 yards then again maybe I just got lucky but my rifle can print under one MOA at 100 yards with SK standard plus and SK target i’m too cheap to buy the Gucci ammo
With the match ammo i generally shoot if its sub moa at 50 its also sub moa at 100 yards. Most precision 22lr with the right match ammo are capable of half moa at 100 yards.
Are you referring to when im switching ammo or just shot to shot? I really havent noticed any poi shift out of what would be normal for the circumstance.
@@PursuitofAccuracy no I'm referring to when your shooting the same ammo and u move from one target to the next. Some groups you will be at 7 o clock on the target, then some u will be at at 1 o clock or 3 o clock. To me that poi shifts, At farther distances this would cause huge severe accuracy variations. Just my thoughts
It reminds me of the time that I actually had a range officer come up to me real nasty and said you can't shoot that here no suppressed rifles on the range that's internally suppressed 30 caliber I know a 30 caliber hole when I see one and I was shooting at 50 yards and I had to tell the guy now you don't know what you know you think you know you're looking at it customized Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round group yep it's a 30 caliber hole but just 50 rounds through that hole go somewhere else and bother somebody else not me
@@PursuitofAccuracy I agree with you and I told him that but only thing I can say in his defense was it was a real long time ago and there weren't many people putting aftermarket barrels on ruger's and shooting groups that size I mean I've been doing it for a long time I wish I could experience what you do I just again I keep singing your praises because of the way you talk and the way you go about shooting you know you're you're doing it the right way I think you're one of the best on UA-cam
@@PursuitofAccuracy I wanted to ask you I'm sorry if it bothers you but I just wanted a question answered when you said that semi-automatics made damage the tip of the bullet or part of the bullet and that may affect its long range accuracy is it that or is it that bolts are just more consistent and how they chambered around and and hold the round before it's fired
@@PursuitofAccuracy and one thing I'd like to say too and this is probably going to be the end of me talk bothering you about it but I equate sometimes shooting like playing pool there's some nights where I seems like I couldn't miss a shot and I'd win many games and then maybe two or three nights later it would be just the opposite I would find it hard to make what I thought were easy shots and it always made me wonder why that was but it's just I think your brain is telling you you're doing the right thing but your hand I coordination isn't really right I guess so shooting tight groups constantly is probably just hard to do no matter what
Every lot of center x is different. I had an older lot that would shoot .2's in my mtr and this new lot is pretty consistent at .3-.4 Also camera seems to ruin groups lol. Heard a lot of good things about the 452's, sounds like you have a keeper!
I have the 16" MTR on mine, from the factory. all my groups at 50 yards are within 1/2 inch. the targets are 25 1/4 inch circles and I hit 15 to 23 of the circles with Eley. my dad used to say that "a good rooster can sing in any chicken coup." the length of the barrel is irrelevant if you know your windage and elevation. use the flags correctly and you'll get there
Love my CZ 457 vptmtr, the 16” barrel works well for me with the suppressor as it keeps the overall length in check. Also seems to get decent velocity out of standard velocity ammo. Targets out to 280 are no issue, trying further targets soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent brother. Its just a personal preference for me really.
I've got the same rifle, I absolutely love it. It makes the Ruger Precision I owned feel like a Red Ryder.
I run a Gemtech on mine, yes the zero shifts.
I don't really like to give out a whole lot of praise to people shooting 22s because over a lifetime of shooting it just varies so much but you're very good I love your attitude your calm demeanor and you're one of the only guys that doesn't blame something else when you know one whole one shot goes out of the hole you say I might have pulled it it's a flyer which is usually the truth and it's refreshing to see that and hear that
I appreciate that. Im not the best by a long shot but I love precision rimfires and love sharing that with you guys.
Thanks for watching
I just purchased a used 457 pro varmint with the 16.5 barrel. Like you I wasnt a fan of that barrel but liked the threaded barrel. This is not an MTR. A guy at the range told me to throw a Ultradyne Apollo Max on it and it would improve the groups. He runs the range and said he had seen other guys do it and tighten their groups. I just happened to have one laying around loose and put it on. I really dont know what the deal is but it tightened up the groups. I dont shoot exotic ammo like you do and was shooting CCI Standard and Federal Auto Match that day. MOA or less at 100. I will try the 50 next time out. Love your page
Beautiful rifle! Good shooting. I saw one a couple months ago, went back to really check it out, and the shop tried to push off the VPT Camo as an MTR. I wasn't buying it. Nice gun, but I wanted the Match chamber. I'm with you on the 16" barrel. I like an 18-20" for handling and velocity.
I managed to come across a CZ 457 Long Range Precision .22LR 20" Rifle. CZ-02380
It has the same Match chamber as the MTR. It's almost identical to the model sold in the UK less the big rubberized ball on the bolt handle and a muzzle brake. I really like the stock it comes in. It's not a Manners stock, but I believe it provides better options for the shooter; at least for me. And I'll probably get a 28 hole blued brake from Kidd to put on it.
Happy shooting!
Thanks for the comment Charlie. I havent had a chance to check out the long range precision yet.......cz-usa are you reading these comments?? 🤣🤣
You won't get any more velocity from a 22lr from a barrel longer than 16", the data is out there :) I love my MTR 16"!
@@sportbikeguy9875 ive seen slight velocity increases over 16" but it depends on the ammo. Also the 16" barrels are louder than are 18 or 20 barrels
@@PursuitofAccuracy yes quiet is nice, I live in Canada and suppressors are illegal. And yeah the ballistics by the inch website shows some strange data where the same round will shoot slower out of a 17 inch barrel than a 16" but then also shoot faster from an 18" than a 17". I can attribute this to a final shockwave bouncing back from the chamber to the projectile around the 18" mark. But I'm not a scientist or a gunsmith haha. Either way, great videos dude. I just ordered my mtr recently after watching one of your video's, among others!
@@sportbikeguy9875 yeah it can be strange. Thanks for the support!
Thanks Josh. Another great and informative video. Keep us posted on your final setup.
Thanks Terry! Will do
It's my second watch of this video. It is interesting to rewatch the evolution of your rifle after seeing all of your vids. I too don't like the 16" barrel appearance.
Hell yea Brother. Aluminum bedded stock as well.
CZ 457 Varmint MTR moved it from the beautiful wood stock to an Oryx chassis & love it. Might have a wood working friend take the wood stock & see about cutting the cheek piece out then use a couple of steel rods to make an adjustable cheek riser.
That would be pretty cool. I thought about the same but then stumbled on to the victor titan cheek rest
Actually, there is a version over this one with a different manners stock. It also has a adjustable cheek riser. It is the varmint precision trainer MTR 16". It retails for 1400.00.
That model came out a few months after this video released
Stumbled across this channel. Love it!!! Very well done 👍!! Keep the videos coming
Thanks a lot
Great video Josh. Wish I had a range like yours in the backyard. Interesting, that it does well with the Center X ammo, my MTR loves the Sk rifle match ammo a little more. I shot a .34” at 50y and about .80 at 100y
Thanks. It shot the center x decent but waa prone to flyers
I believe that cz helps you out on all the new equipment you have or you have a nice cash flow or you are like me just cant pass up the latest and greatest I have seven cz rifles now I have to get this one thanks Josh. But rest assured I love me some cz.
Have the exact rifle. Ive not found it to be particularly finicky with quality ammo. Ive managed MOA 5 strings with Remmington bucket stuff.
With match ELY or SK sub MOA isnt a stretch.
I dont however have the best glass ( most expensive). I use a Vortex HD 4×12.
Great rifles for guys chasing groups.
Excellent review! I shoot exactly the same rifle/scope/rings/mount and riser. I do have the 16" barrel and it will shoot .349 all day with Lapua OSP, strange I know but the OSP seems to shoot better than Center X or RWS R50. RWS Special Match consistently groups will under half MOA. The real test is 25 shots, one shot each on a half-inch paster at 50 yards
Thats a whole bunch of pasters my friend.
Yeah you never know what the rifle will like with these rimfires
Thank God there's somebody out there that's going to say 25 round groups I mean I I like to say 50 and then throw out a couple flyers and that's what that ammo's going to shoot in your gun clean the barrel if you change ammo and do it again so thank God somebody thinks 25 ground groups matter
I have the 16" version. I am on the fence about changing it to a 20". I have a varmint and love it. Both have a spot in my inventory. I do shoot the MTR more. I may pick a 20" and but the 16" on my varmint. I dont know. Great video. Thank you.
Appreciate the comment. Great thing about the 457 is you can mix and match and see what you like. Never know til you try. Happy plinking!
I think the 20" is overrated. I'll change mine to 20" when it's time to replace the barrel, after 2,000 rounds
I have the Varmint MTR, and love it. My brother has the American, and it's also quite accurate.
Awesome. I have the varmint mtr as well, great rifle
Now I want one for my mtr. Great video by the way . That’s a very accurate rifle for sure. But you half to factor in the shooter behind the rifle also . I think your a great shot sir .
Your dead to me now, vudoo guy....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@PursuitofAccuracy hahahahahahah😂😂😂😂 but … but ……. But I still love my cz
Lol, your forgiven
I have the Synthetic model. When i was researching the models it said online and in the paperwork when i picked it up that it had a match chambered barrel. So far, I've seen nothing to prove it's not a match chamber. If anyone can tell me otherwise....
Have you done chrono on both barrels I would say 16” barrel is just as fast as 20” with match ammo.
I havent. I agree...the 16" is making max velocity ad the 20" would make max velocity and then the last 2" would slow it down
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the feedback I have the green one with think 20” barrel was thinking of replacing it with a threaded barrel. Have a suppressor if I ever get a stamp back. Trying to decide what barrel I want to go with.
I love that stock. My Mtr had the 16.5 barrel. Shot great. But balance to me was a issue. I have a lothar 18 on it now balance is much better. But I come from a using a weihrauch 660mm barrel. So its a adjustment when switching rifles.
Nice, yeah agree completely...the longer barrel helps a lot with balance
I shoot the 457 Jaguar (28.5in barrel). 300 rounds of Eley Match through it...and I LOVE it. Shooting iron sights is humbling..i have shot a few sub 1/2 inch groups at 25 meters (2 MOA)
Iron sights are tough. I like the stock on those jaguars, thanks for commenting
Jaguars and their 12 groove rifling are some great shooters. I love the 3 jags I have.
@@charlesmiller2837 on a calm day...what kind of 5 shot groups can you pull at 25 meters with the Jaguar (iron sights)
I decided to get the CZ 457 ProVarmint!!!! I am SOOOO excited! Ohh and I will buy your 16.5 inch MTR barrel if you still have it ;P
A CZ 457 is the next firearm on my buy list, but I promised my self and my significant others that I would wait until my birthday six month's from now. (They did just let me buy a bolt action 300 Blackout) Promises. 😒
But hey, it gives me time to save up for exactly the one I want. 👍🏻 I'm a fan of aluminum chassis, so I'm thinking about the Varmint Precision Chassis MTR. Or maybe look for a used 457 American for the action and build one from there.
Sounds like a solid plan. Its worth the wait
Love the videos Josh! I’m just catching up with all them. What do you recommend to lengthen the buttstock?
Really love my cv 457 vpt-mtr 16" mtr barrel works good for me mine likes norma 22 match, sk black box and lapua cx. I'm still looking for a lija barrel (going to move the mtr barrel to my pro varmint cz) and have been on the waiting list for a scar trigger for a year now
To add the weighted arca rail is sweet best add I did so far
I watch ya quite a bit. I got varmint. Out of the box. Not the mtr. After around 350 rds 22lr) at 50. Mine shoots 1/4 to 3/8 all the time. 3/4 to 1 inch at 100. Mine is just the standard varmint. Norma tac. 1100fps. And gemtech 1020 fps. Mine didn't shoot with any consistency until that 300 to 400 rds. They really are an accurate tac driver. The trigger to me on these czs are what a guy has to know. Once you learn that the hit where you aim. Amazing accurracy for 5 bills. I've got an airmax 4 12 40 ao on top of mine. HAWKE. Seems to be a good combo. Like your videos. Maybe your wife will let you get that voodoo some day.😅😅😁😁. Great educational videos. Great work.
Thanks for the comment Todd!
Josh, is your barrel free floated all the way up to the action? My varmint MTR stock is, but when I swap the action into the Manners VPT. There is barrel contact about 1” from the receiver. Thanks for all the fun videos
Hey Mike. I noticed the same and sanded that down to free float it
It's crazy that it does not come with an adjustable cheek rest.
Agreed
Love your videos keep them comeing.
I have the 24" CZ 457 in their factory chassis. It will shoot sub moa easily with good ammo.
Nice. Yeah just not a huge fan of a 24" barrel
Great video and I love the stock 👍👍
Appreciate it
I shot my mtr cz457 with standard plus this weekend and it shot lights out.
Awesome. Will see how my mtr does with it this week
If UA-cam would allow me I would have uploaded a phone of 5 shot group at 100 yards smaller than a dime
Hey Josh, loving all your vids man. I used to run CZ's (452/453/455), then i thought i'd try a Bergara B-14R. It shoots ragged holes at 50 yards with SK Standard Plus, but i'll always have a soft spot for CZ. It's like you regularly say "It's personal preference".
I read somewhere that .22 RF ammo gets a full burn at around 12"?, i'm guessing barrel length is what the shooter feels comfortable with.
ATB from across the pond.
For match ammo its around 18" for full burn i believe. But yeah all pretty much preference
@@PursuitofAccuracy
Depends on ammo velocity doesn't it?
They just came out with a new version of this rifle with a updated stock (cheek riser and setup for a Arca rail) $1635.
Yeah I saw that. Big price jump, will see if I can get my hands on that
Longer barrels just look so much better with that type of stock.
Yes they do
16.5 inch barrel for the win!
Hate to burst your bubble, but the CZ site states the 16.5 inch barrel has a complete powder burn. Also its stiffer which will provide a better set of harmonics.
So the extra noise when shooting the same ammo out of the 16.5 is what??? The extra stiffness 😂😂
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Nice
I tend to like 24 or 26" barrels simply because they are so quiet.
To me there is nothing more satisfying than plinking without ear pro and barely hearing a pop... Not that a 16" barrel is loud, but it's just a little more annoying
The 16" is abnoxious lol
Nice info on the rifle. Do you not wear hearing protection? First 3-4 years of my shooting career i used crappy ear muffs and I now have tinnitus. Not counting the thousands of rounds I put down a 22 as a kid. Lost my high range and I'm not even 40 yet.
I wear ear pro when i get away from the subsonic match ammo. Should probably wear it all the time but the 22lr with the match ammo and longer barrels is so quiet
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Good looking gun. Can you post the cheek riser where to purchase and brand.
Thanks.
Its a victor titan cheek rest. Google them and usually there are several online shops selling them for pretty cheap
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the information
Is it necessary to clean the barrel , each time u change ammo for testing 🤔, I would figure on it wouldn't matter. Like in high end air gun they say most don't clean them. Seems like after a couple shots it would be self cleaning and want lead in barrel to fill any minor imperfections 🤔
10 or so shots usually cleans out the lube of the oil ammo. I usually clean just to be sure
Good video. Thanks. 👍
Appreciate it. You got a great channel
@@PursuitofAccuracy thx man.
Love your videos, just wondering what your cleaning regime / method is? You get great accuracy. Thanks in advance.
I generally only clean when i notice accuracy fall off
Usually hundreds or thousands of shots? Also do you use copper brush, nylon or felts/patches?
@@davep3163 typically a 400 or so depending on the barrel.
I use a nylon brush and cotton patches.
2 wet patches with boretec, let it sit, nylon brush wet with boretec about a dozen times, then dry patches
@@PursuitofAccuracy great that's very helpful. 👍
For myself I will never put anything metal down my bores of any weapon.......It's always nylon brushes coupled with cotton patches......First I always use patches with some WD-40 and if that doesn't do it then it's Tetra gun solvent for 15 minutes then dry patch it out.
For all my guns that will sit over the Illinois winters I use lots of Corrosion-X on a patch then when winter is over I dry patch each barrel again for the start of my shooting season.
If i was changing barrels ,i wouldnt use another CZ barrel .I would get a custom made barrel known for 22rf accuracy . I have bore scoped a lot of CZ barrels and there are flaws in all of them
I have a lilja in my competition 457.
The lilja outshoots the mtr barrel but the mtr is no slouch and i sometimes shoot in priduction and have to have a bone stock rifle for that class
Good shooting. How would you compare that stock with the walnut stock? Better ergonomics? The reason I ask is I shoot the walnut mtr left handed and I’ve been looking for more of a ambidextrous option, although I’ve gotten used to it.
I like both but i think the manners is superior. Its inletting is tighter and the aluminum pillar beds are a step up from the plastic on the walnut mtr stock.
Ergonomically the manners is better for me but im a righty......may feel different to you
Been trying to find a CZ LRP for a year now.
Yeah not many came to the US and now discontinued I believe
Not sure, but I thought max velocity for 22 came somewhere between a 16" and 18" inch barrel. Doesn't CZ say that 20" and 24" barrels are mostly about balance and aesthetic preference, not necessary for .22 lr accuracy.
Ive found 16-20 is all pretty close but past 18" your not gaining velocity.
Honestly velocity is the least of my concerns with a precision 22
@@PursuitofAccuracy So in what way is a longer barrel better for results when the gun is used with a scope? Or do you just like longer than 16" barrels?
When you changed the barrel on your custom rifle did you set it up to glue into action.read a build that talked a little about it, wanted to here your thought if that’s really necessary to get that 180yard aspirin/card splitting accuracy. Or do you leave it so you can do fast barrel changes
I dont glue in the barrels in case i switch something up and want to change my headspace. Hasnt been necessary for me so far
Could you do a comparison video between this rifle the vptmtr and a B14R ? For the price of this CZ around 1500 compared to the b14r around 900. Which one shoots the best? Thanks
I currently dont own a bergara b14r but will keep it in mind
Sure wish you could actually buy a cz 457 right now.
Recently started to look into CZ 457's and came across your channel. Love your content! I am currently in the market and would like an upper end CZ. Was looking into this model you are shooting as well as the CZ 457 VPC MTR and the CZ 457 VPT MTR. What are your thoughts on those?
Both are awesome rifles for the $$
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply! They all seem like they are so hard to come by! I have only had luck finding them on gunbroker and you pay premium price there. Any other suggestions on places to look?
@@clorr060482 local mom and pop gun stores are the best bet these days
Hey buddy awesome awesome, love this channel, what state are you in ? We are in tn and no cz stuff hardly at all, I have a 457 synthetic its a shooter about to go line up my new burris e1 6.5-20x50, replacing my 4-12 so hoping my groups shrink
Hey i appreciate it. I am in NC and the cz stuff is slim pickings for sure, atleast for a decent price
@@PursuitofAccuracy I been after a 10rnd mag for months now no luck found some on ebay for 100$ + that's it....
@@Jcruce7122 yeah not sure whats up with the lack of mags right now. I may call cz and ask them what the deal is.
Awesome video.
Thanks
Excellent presentation. I agree with your assessment about a any barrel less than 20” will never be on any of my target rifles. I have a CZ and I would never put 16” barrel on even if CZ gave me the top of the line match barrel. Yes it is a personal preference 😉 it just looks weird too me 🤔
Thank you sir
My favorite model 457 is the Jaguar. I’ve not shot any ammo it doesn’t like yet and I’ve shot some crappy blazer, federal champion, and winchesters. The 12 groove rifling of the jaguar just loves everything. Best match ammo I’ve shot is eley match 1050 speed and Lapua Midas+ 26 speed. Liked the forst one so much I now have 3 Jaguars and none of them are picky about ammo at all.
Every ammo has shot MOA or stupid sub MOA groups so far in the Jaguars I own. Best groupings were with eley match the 1051 fps lot. 5 consecutive groups under .2 . I Honestly think the jaguar is a hidden gem in the 457 lineup.
I’ve had the pro varmint and MTR and since I got the first jaguar I’ve sold the other to buy more cats. Love those things a lot. You should get one for the channel.
How accurate are we without a scope? I have a 457 Lux 22LR, haven't fired it yet
Im an ok irons shooter. Havent done it in a long time either so maybe im better now, but likely far worse lol
What sunshade is that for the helos btr gen 2. Tried 3, none of them fit...TIA
Call athlon they will give you the part number you need.
I have a cz457 VPT. I am looking to upgrade the barrel on it. Between your mtr barrel with its preferred best ammo and the lilja barrel with it preferred best ammo at around 200yds, which is the better more accurate option? Is the difference between the two significant? The lilja barrel is roughly $200 more than the cz mtr barrel. Thanks for the videos and info thus far!!!
I think the lilja is worth the extra $$ just because you can set the headspace on it.
The eley match has been best out of both the mtr barrel and the lilja.
Hope this helps
@@PursuitofAccuracy loop
How about shooting an ARA BENCHREST TARGET. I just shot 2225 on Sunday out of 2500
I will give it a try. I usually have a little wind to contend with but i would be curious to see how the rifle and i perform
I have the varmint Mtr in the original stock but I am having trouble picking a sight for it. What ring height and sight are using?
On that rifle i am running low height rings and an athlon helos btr gen 2
ARGGGG MY 452 DES THAT WELL BUT I DONT CLEAN THE BBL
I dont doubt that. The 452 are awesome shooters.
Good shooting Josh
Thanks brother
My first time here. I was hoping you would shoot a tee.
Well i did technically hit it 🤣🤣
Hope you stick around
@@PursuitofAccuracy I was satisfied with the hit!
@@tiltedflip4491 im not sure how i thought i could put golf tees in the target hanger and not expect myself to try and shoot them.....🤣🤣
Im easily distracted and somehow my 52 yard backstop seems to be a dragon fly landing pad......... you can guess what the end result is there
Have you checked out the cz long range Preseigen
Not yet but looking forward to it
Doesn’t it frustrate you that ammunition inconsistency affects your shooting, given a good rifle “platform”, more than anything else?
Yeah it is a pain
Who makes the longer MTR barrel that you are using here please?
Thats the Lilja barrel
Hey mate, I have a CZ 457 AT - One in an container traveling to Australia. I’m told it’s CZ developed for Australia, imported through Winchester. I’ve noticed you’ve never viewed a barrel tuner. Would you consider a tuner worth the expense. I was looking at an EC tuner. But with a varmit barrel at 16 inches, would you consider it worth while. Cheers
They are effective at changing the harmonics. Plan on spending time and ammo testing with one and dont try to rush the process
Thanks mate, that has to be fasted response I’ve ever had. Keep the content coming. Cheers
@@ianwoodward1554 haha im on break here
Putting me one together now
Nice
My 457 MTR didn't come with the polished trigger. Should I be concerned?
No not at all. It may just be certain runs etc. There is no difference in the trigger other than that
where did get the check raiser, Also where did you the ten shot mags.
Honestly i dont remember the website but google search victor titan cheek rest
Great video. What make of bipod is fitted please.
Its an atlas
@@PursuitofAccuracy
Thank you
I have the regular VPT that came with the 16.5 barrel. Was shooting sub .300 groups at 50 yards and at 100 yards maybe averaging 1" or so. Switched to the 20" MTR barrel and my 50yard groups opened up a little to just under .400 but the 100 yard is better at 3/4" average with a few ammos. Any ideas about why the 16.5" falls off past 50 yards?
Nothing scientific. Rimifre is finicky and you will see ammo do that quite often. I find ammo that sucks at 50 and beats everything else i have at 200 yards.
@@PursuitofAccuracy Excellent. Thanks for the response and keep the videos coming!
@@jbrown1261 will do. Appreciate ya
Is there any downside for the MTR?
Nope, very solid rifle
Josh do you feel you give up anything 300+ with the cz vs say a vudoo or rimx?
Its hard to say honestly. There are so many factors at that distance. Typically a vudoo or rimx do start pulling away at 200+ yards because of the controlled feed but the cz feed is so smooth im not sure how much gain there actually is.
I do plan on going vudoo vs cz at around 300 yards soon. Jons vudoo and his new ammo shoots the same SD my cz and its ammo shoots so i think thats the best way to test that.
May I ask what Cheek riser that is, thanks,?
Victor titan universal
Should throw on a barrel tuner
I have been thinking about it just not something i am convinced on trying yet
@@PursuitofAccuracy I’m getting one for my vudoo, made by ATS. Can still use my hellfire from area 419.
Do you have steel or poly 10 round mags?
They are poly
What is the difference between this and the Varmint Precision Trainer Camo version?
The barrel. The camo pattern comes with a standard barrel and the other the mtr chamber barrel
@@PursuitofAccuracy What barrel do you recommend to replace it with for better accuracy?
@@jck197 lilja
Have you shot the LRP version?
I have not
What name of scope??
I believe that was an athlon helos or ares
When your favorite pastime becomes a race to see how much cash you can throw at it......my old 452 seems to work just fine for me.
We havent even got to the real expensive stuff yet.......but certainly a cz 452 is a very accurate rifle. My rifles are purpose built for prs style shooting
Funny. Rifle with a twist. What state are you in?
I am in NC
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Josh
Where are you finding ammo and spare CZ mags at?
I got the mags a few months ago when everyone had them. Same with the ammo, i bought a few cases few months back from good shooting inc
Thanks.
I love all my cz pistols. Cyclops Joe Rhea likes the Bergara b14r vs CZ 457's. How do you feel about this. Dennis.
I would take the 457 over the b14r
MTR with wood stock. Nailed out several under an inch groups @ 100.
I also have the wood stock mtr and its been very accurate as well
@@PursuitofAccuracy Most accurate rimfires I have are both BSA made. One is a Century and the other a International MK2. Happy shooting and catch you next time.
@@fls360 havent shot a bsa yet. Appreciate the comment
What diameter are the orange disks?
1"
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you!!
@@robertwatson818 np at all
1450.00 is still less than a full boat KIDD or Volquartzen and from the 3 videos I have watched of yours only one is worth the money.
Haha we can agree on that for sure.
Very nice Rifles I have one myself and I have the Precision varmint trainer I replace the barrel with a match barrel that comes treaded and it’s also Fluted makes the rifle look really cool Tacticool About the test how come everybody test at 50 yards and claim half MOA or better I think it’s misleading because you can duplicate that at 100 yards then again maybe I just got lucky but my rifle can print under one MOA at 100 yards with SK standard plus and SK target i’m too cheap to buy the Gucci ammo
With the match ammo i generally shoot if its sub moa at 50 its also sub moa at 100 yards. Most precision 22lr with the right match ammo are capable of half moa at 100 yards.
So I've watched alot of videos, u seam to have alot of poi shift in most the 22s u shoot. U have a reason for this
Are you referring to when im switching ammo or just shot to shot?
I really havent noticed any poi shift out of what would be normal for the circumstance.
@@PursuitofAccuracy no I'm referring to when your shooting the same ammo and u move from one target to the next. Some groups you will be at 7 o clock on the target, then some u will be at at 1 o clock or 3 o clock. To me that poi shifts,
At farther distances this would cause huge severe accuracy variations. Just my thoughts
@@jonbibb4208 probably wind
It reminds me of the time that I actually had a range officer come up to me real nasty and said you can't shoot that here no suppressed rifles on the range that's internally suppressed 30 caliber I know a 30 caliber hole when I see one and I was shooting at 50 yards and I had to tell the guy now you don't know what you know you think you know you're looking at it customized Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round group yep it's a 30 caliber hole but just 50 rounds through that hole go somewhere else and bother somebody else not me
A range officer that cant tell a rifle is 22lr by the size of the bolt and brass coming out of it probably shouldnt be a range officer
@@PursuitofAccuracy I agree with you and I told him that but only thing I can say in his defense was it was a real long time ago and there weren't many people putting aftermarket barrels on ruger's and shooting groups that size I mean I've been doing it for a long time I wish I could experience what you do I just again I keep singing your praises because of the way you talk and the way you go about shooting you know you're you're doing it the right way I think you're one of the best on UA-cam
@@joe-dp3ng I appreciate it. Still be tempted to fire that rsnge officer lol
@@PursuitofAccuracy I wanted to ask you I'm sorry if it bothers you but I just wanted a question answered when you said that semi-automatics made damage the tip of the bullet or part of the bullet and that may affect its long range accuracy is it that or is it that bolts are just more consistent and how they chambered around and and hold the round before it's fired
@@PursuitofAccuracy and one thing I'd like to say too and this is probably going to be the end of me talk bothering you about it but I equate sometimes shooting like playing pool there's some nights where I seems like I couldn't miss a shot and I'd win many games and then maybe two or three nights later it would be just the opposite I would find it hard to make what I thought were easy shots and it always made me wonder why that was but it's just I think your brain is telling you you're doing the right thing but your hand I coordination isn't really right I guess so shooting tight groups constantly is probably just hard to do no matter what
Try cleaning the barrel but don’t clean the chamber area about 1”of the throat and see what you think.
With my cleaning setup im not sure if i could clean the barrel without cleaning the chamber
I bought same gun. 16.5 barrel not mtr. Doesnt matter im going to up grade barrel.
Nice
457 american 22 lr.
Stock....but not stock. Would have preferred truly stock.
No rifle i own for more than a month is gonna stay stock
You never shoot a can on any of your guns. Why?
Thet tend to not be as accurate with a can
Thats interesting. Alot of guys in the ibs dont shoot breaks because they say same thing. I watch all your videos. Great job.
@@seanbrown7954 thanks a lot sean
My CZ 452 with Center X shoots better than that at 50m not yards! cheers
Every lot of center x is different. I had an older lot that would shoot .2's in my mtr and this new lot is pretty consistent at .3-.4
Also camera seems to ruin groups lol.
Heard a lot of good things about the 452's, sounds like you have a keeper!
New game shooting golftee
😂😂
Seems like a fun 100 yard game