@@gluebreeza1999 Minor spoilers for Fate/strange fake ahead Technically, False Rider is actually the Horseman of Death, not Pestilence (though, all of the Horseman are an aspect of Death, so Pale Rider can still use the abilities of Pestilence).
@@lopezroilans.8384 Probably. Though the seven times destroyed and put together was in their multi-day clash when they became friends, I think (because it was Shamhat, the sacred prostitute, who said that).
Gilgamesh did not kill Enkidu, they were evenly matched, their fight ended when Gilgamesh fell over backwards from laughing. They would go on to become best friends. Enkidu died due to a curse from the Gods who cursed him due to Gilgamesh pissing off Ishtar (the Goddess which is merged with Rin in Babylonia). Their death is what made Gilgamesh go on his journey for immortality, which caused him to become not just a better person, but also a good King.
It's funny, but he realized only after the snake ate the herb and stole it from him that immortality wasn't as cracked up as it appeared. He went back later to get the elixir but never used it - he just wanted it for his collection. It's the one he tosses like trash to Tine lmao
@@azensura What wonders me is that the catalyst is usually tied to version of the hero summoned, like if you used the rhongomyniad lance you wouldn´t summon artoria saber but probably her lancer version. If they used the snake skin to summon him in zero and that snake is tied to his legend in achieving enlightenment then shouldnt they have summoned the enlightened older "kind"ish"" gilgamesh instead of the the young tyrant?
@@michi6486 Not necessarily, since his younger self was absolutely obsessed with gaining immortality. I’d say the skin played an even larger part in his early tyrant days versus after where he didn’t even care much about it.
also. that no one actually had the Mana/Space for Gil to go all out. Like, this grail war works due to the large empty areas to allow for mass bombardment. In a city it is way harder.
@@FlaschenJoe11 the mana more specifically... i doubt gil ever cared much for the space. but gil's master is supported here by literally a plethora of mages' worth of mana.
@@indiomie He doesn't care about the mana. Due to his Independent Action skill, plus Gate of Babylon having minimal mana cost, he would be able to fight at full power even if his master was a vegetable.
Do you remember the gem-stone sword Rin used in her battle against Sakura in the final Heaven's Feel movie? The old man in the end credits is the creator of the original version of that sword (which Shirou copied). He is a legendary mage, the user of the second magic, who defeated Type Moon (an Ultimate One, and the vampire king, who's one of the strongest beings in the entire Nasuverse). In the Tsukihime timeline, Type Moon bit him, and turned him into a vampire. In the Fate timeline, he didn't get bit, but found another way to gain eternal life.
Wait ....type moon is an actual character in nasuverse? I thought it was a gaming company? Also...I heard there is a character who can travel multiple timelines and hence tsukihime , garden of sinners and fate are connected?
@@PurpleHeartE54 arcuied brunstud also known as moon princess or white princess of true ancestors is not Type moon/crimson moon. She's Archetype Earth and Crimson moon is her father/ancestor.
So, a bit of an explanation on the last scene, the one with the old man and the phone talking about the "spider": -That's Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg, one of the 3 people in the whole Fate Multiverse that can use True Magic and one of the strongest mages in the entire multiverse. His Magic allows him to look and manipulate alternate reality. The book he was looking at was the infinite comprendium of all parallel universes. He's one of the founding father of the Mage Association and originally helped create the Holy Grail War in Fuyuki with the Makiri, Einzbern and Tohsaka -The other guy, the one that spoke through the telephone, that's Caubac Alcatraz, a vampire who can rival Zelretch in power but he's stuck in an infinite labyrith of his own creation and the phone is the only contact with the outside world. We don't know a lot about him. -The "Spider" that was mentioned by Zelretch is ORT, an alien super-organism from the Oort Nebula that crashed into South America before 0 AD. Since it comes from the Oort Nebula, it lacks the terrestrian concept of death and cannot be killed through conventional means, that's why Zelretch is so focused on it not waking up. It possess the ability called Crystal Valley. Similar to Unlimited Blade Works, the ability transform the surronding into a piece of the Oort Nebula to support its own life by warping the law of physics. Should it awaken, the entire planet would be covered in this ability and therefore made uninhabitable forever to humankind
@@mangofit1531Not really, if you've seen other Fate, you should be somewhat familiar with Zelrech and Ort (Alcatraz is even more obscure character). But they're not that important to the story of Strange Fake overall, the Light Novel didn't even name them in that scene. The only thing you really need to know is that Ort (aka the giant spider) = bad news.
@@mangofit1531 Yes, Zelretch has been around since Heaven's Feel (with a much bigger role than the movie actually showed) and all 3 have been mentioned and shown in Tsukihime. It's not something that you MUST know going into Strange Fake, but it helps you understand an otherwise pointless scene
I think they have it on their Patron, but considering their misconception about Gil killing Enkidu, im not so sure because they shouldn't even have that thought after Babylonia.
@@rinny5500not to be hateful on them but they do at times miss or don’t understand information and it’s not mainly a them issue but a thing that happens to people and esixlalay considering their job is to watch and react to many shows little details can be forgotten.
@@metalcobra726yeah, they gotta watch but also be mindful about their reactions and the content, its easy to miss things when you're not fully focused on a show
This volume predate even FGO so its not that big of a deal true. For later volume tho sure, watching babylonia help to understand some context for example gil and enkidu connection to certain goddess, and bull
in the Lord El-Melloi II case file they explain more Waver and his student, probably not a bad idea to watch that while wait for Strange Fake TV series airs
King Arthur being a male servant isn't disrespect. He is supposed to be male but heroic spirits by having inconsistencies in their lore, create the variations that should have not existed. In Fate Prototype, King Arthur is male. Just like Jack the Ripper of FSF and the little girl you saw in Apocrypha. They are maybe the same Jack the Ripper in the history but the vagueness of the story suggested that "JTR was a child of a prostitute and got abandoned so she is seeking her mother" is simply one of the aspects Jack the Ripper. In Strange/Fake, he is a formless spirit who can take any form of his desire for having identity issue of not knowing who he really is.
Enkidu is Gil's best friend (it's implied they were somewhat lovers in the real Epic of Gilgamesh, which is a real documented literature piece that exists irl and it was found in Uruk, which was a real place and not something Fate made up on the spot), and if you say anything bad to the clay (even if its something as benign as thinking Gil would kill them), Gil will just outright kill you no questions asked.
Gilgamesh didnt kill Enkidu it was the gods who did. Gilgamesh empty his whole treasury fighting Enkidu 3 days and nights into a draw. The last guy you see seated in "space" he also appear in Heaven's Feel 3 when they talked bout the crystal sword with infinite power, the guy seated is the owner of that blade. He is that powerful
I'm just relieved they finally realized that was Waver they were watching this whole time. He is just this one guy in the background with massive protagonist potential reduced to an easter egg.
So as he’s alluded the fake grail war is colliding with a real one. Strange fake is weird as it’s aside from grand order the series which takes major element from tsukihime as well as your standard fate stuff. My final but no less important note is that in this war is that the master may be just as dangerous as the servant even in a pure combat sense and trust me it’s gonna get wild especially when true archer turns up.
This episode was released as a special on its own. They have announced there will be a full series, but it's not clear exactly when, so you may have a bit of a wait for it.
I literally cried while watching gilgamesh vs enkidu Ive watched fate stay night in 2008 when i was only 5 years old, ever since then, ive been a massive fate fan, ive waited so long for this and when they fought, i cried because not only is my dream animated, it exceeded my expectation by a landslide
the only thing I worry about this comment is that you watched it when you were 5, when I was 5 i watched tom and jerry, Ben 10, Inazuma 11, slam dunk and captain tsubasa (with many more)
@@DR_REDACTED Oof. Well, thanks for the explanation. I'll be hard skipping their Apocrypha reactions then. It sounds like they were obtusely ignoring the narrative of the show.
@@infernousgaming1393 nope. It cannot destroy space in a general sense. It can only destroy false realities since it's whole power is to transport everyone to Earth before life (the true world).
@@skychieftain That's... sort of true, but not exactly. See, Ea recreates the moment when creation began and shows the "truth" of the world by showing the world/void before creation, but it does this by breaking and distorting space-time. This is pretty explicitly stated in Fate/stay night's weapon entries, material books, and other series that Gilgamesh shows up in.
@@infernousgaming1393 except that it only creates a hole to send things into that world by removing the false reality that is the Earth's reality marble. That means if he were to use Enuma Elish on Mars, it would do nothing since Mars was always in its true state.
40:26 the only reason the attack didn't exceed that area is due elkidu he contained and minimized gil's attack if not the entire world could have been destroyed
The guy at the end is Kishur Zelretch Schweinorg, the Magician of the Second True Magic, Kaleidoscope. He helped the founding families to create the Fuyuki Grail system, he created the Jewel Sword Zelretch (Rin used a reproduction of it in Heaven's Feel) [For both he had a cameo in Heaven's Feel], he also created the Kaleidosticks [which are most prominent in Prisma Illya, but also exist in other timelines], fought the Ultimate One of the Moon (the original Brunestud of the Crimson Moon, the template all True Ancestos and by extension all vampires in the Nasuverse are modeled after) and did win. He is a kind of goodfather of Arcueid and was a direct disciple of Solomon. Yes, he is a big deal in the Nasuverse.
Why do these guys have such a hatred against Apocrypha, like it wasn't the best fate media out there sure, but their hate for it is so over the top for no reason, and they bring it up in every fate related video, multiple times at that, like why?????
Kid Gil = younger years Archer Gil = teen years Caster Gil = older years Caster Gil is the better one. Losing his friend Enkidu changed him turning himself from his former tyrant self into a better king. The only Archer version of Gilgamesh that I can accept is the one in Fate/Extra and nothing more.
Some notes about some stuff: - Berserker Jack can't be seen - not because he's in spirit form - but because he literally doesn't have an appearance, this comes into play of his noble phantasm of changing into anything he wants, except for a unique and original appearance due to his legend. - The crazy girl in the office is called Francesca Prelati. In history, he was a murderer that helped with Gilles de Rais' murder spree, which is why she's obsessed with Ruler (Jeanne). In Fate, he's a powerful mage that studied under spirits who studied under Merlin and has died multiple times, but swapped to a different body with each death (why he's female). His first death however, earned him a seat in the Throne of Heroes and thus while still being alive in a female body, his original male body has been recorded as a Heroic Spirit. - Tsubaki, the little girl that's hospitalised, summoned False Rider, that's all you should know for now. - False Caster, True Name: Alexandre Dumas, his noble phantasm is to essentially rewrite legends (of noble phantasms) and actualise them (can also boost their ranks by one) - as explained in the special - which is why the Police Chief (Orlando) has a squad of police officers with rewritten noble phantasms. - The old man is Kischur Zelretch Shweinorg, a Magician - an owner of True Magic - unlike a typical magus. His True Magic is Kaleidoscope, to see into alternative timelines such as the original Fate/Stay Night's three timelines (routes) and their endings, including the bad endings, he can also see into timelines of series' like Fate/Apocrypha or Fate/Extra so he knows basically existing Fate series. He's also in Tsukihime but that's an Alternate Universe and, most likely Kara no Kyoukai, though, these are Alternate Universe versions of him. - The "spider" is ORT, classified as Type-Mercury, but is actually from the Oort Cloud and not the planet. Long story short, ORT's an alien that qualifies as an Dead Apostle because of their vampiric behaviour and poses a extinctual danger to humanity and Gaia if it's awakened. - The servant at the end is True Saber, he's King Arthur's biggest fan, that's all you should know for now. - The girl that summoned True Saber is Ayaka Sayjou, she's originally the intended Protagonist for first ideation of Fate/Stay Night during the early development for the game, but she became a minor character in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Stay Night Sequel) and her name was never mentioned in the sequel until Strange Fake. There is an OVA of the first ideation for Fate, called Fate/Prototype which tells of the plot that would've been implemented. There's also a comic called Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver that serves as a prequel to when the plot for Fate/Prototype takes place.
Fax and neel the old mem you see at 40:53 is features kischut Zelretch Schweinorg. In fate havens feels rin used his sword to fight sakura remever overpower dagger-jewel type sword called sword of zelretch. As you know fate has many verse and every universe have same character but diffrent set up but in all these worlds there is only one zelretch (expect from tuskihime timelines he has diffrent history ) weilder of second magic, disicple of grand caster solomon act as an observer
You should have watched Case Files first before Grand Order, but at least you finally recognized Waver lol (still they don't know about Gray) Maybe you didn't pay attention to HF3 or just forgot, but the old mage at the end is Zelretch Since you don't know much about the Nasuverse this will be cool to see your first impression of the Dead Apostles and other references of Strange Fake
In that scene where they both do their np, reality was shattered and recreated 7 times. Gil was destroying it, while Enkidu was putting back together, or so I’ve heard it states in the LN. Also that lightning scene where the girl gets scared, the impact frames are gil and enkidu clashing, I recommend watching it in slow-mo cause it’s cool asf Side note: Why do they not like Jeanne😭? What she do???
Kinda spoiler but ... Francesca is Francois Prelatti a person from Jeanne's time who gave Gilles de rais aka bluebeard from Fate/Zero his spell book and taught him everything to do with black magic as well as fucked torture and killing methods also encouraged him to kidnap and kill kids all in the name of Jeanne's death all because it was entertaining so thats why she wants to violate her because thats how she has fun lol
@@fellow_otaku349 oh shit nvm lol I thought you meant why that little girl hated Ruler so much lol but iirc they didn't like how Ruler wasn't consistently following her own "rules" in Apoc
yes yes it was he literally only lost to bs plot and he lets it go because hes the most noble hero there and think thats okay. karna was strong enough to defeat every other servant in that war by him self and it wasnt even close
@shiyamshankar3980 But was it bad enough to quit an entire show with 3 episodes left beacuse he lost to the MAIN character seems like a crazy overreaction in my opinion
Exactly! It wasn’t even that bad. Karna was my favorite to and I was fine with the way he went out plus, after watching Tsiah IV’s don’t sleep on series and learning more of the apocrypha servants feats the fights wouldn’t be as one sided as other would believe.
@@DR_REDACTEDwhut.... I didn't finish Apocrypha but I thought the writing must have been so horrible since they are shitting on it in every Babylonia reaction. If they are so bitter over Just power creeping well damn lmao
@shoujoru That was easily the worst reacted series I've seen from these two. Once they lock in a favorite character (Karna/Gilgamesh) don't let anything happen to those characters lol.
Jack The Ripper changes everytime you summon him/her because we really didn't know who he/she was. In Apocrypha, the Jack that was summoned was the amalgamation of the ab*rted kids of the pr*stitutes. This Jack is another interpretation of who Jack was. If you summon Jack again in another holy grail war, he's likely gonna be a different being again. The mystery of who Jack the Ripper was is a big part of his legend so there's a constant change of who or what gets summoned.
Actually no, in Apocrypha she is a girl for that explanation, but that is her form in the Assassin class because she represents the murders as such. In Strange Fake he is of the Berserker class and represents the madness that he generated in the population for not knowing his identity.
When Gilgamesh says; "Oh, I won't bore you." -"Not even one of you!" he looks directly at 'camera'!! IF THAT IS NOT FANSERVICE AT BEST, THEN WHAT IS!!??
It feels like it's never not broken. At least, none of the ones we actually see. Zero I guess would be closest to "as intended", but even that had weirdness.
Everyone knew there was going to be a Fate Strange Fake anime adaptation. It was supposed to air in Dec. of 2022, but got delayed. Then a few days before the episode aired, they started showing trailers and saying the first episode would be out. I don't believe we know anything about when the next episode comes out. As of me writing this comment, it's been a week since this episode aired and still no episode 2.
Lmao, it's kind of crazy how much they absolutely despise Jeanne. Apocrypha was not well written, but Jeanne, Ruler, did literally nothing wrong. 😂 "She should be unbiased-" No, a Ruler's job is to prevent the actual destruction of humanity, which Amakusa Shirou was close to achieving (though he meant good). This is such a perfect example of projecting your dislike of a show onto a character, that was not even originally created by the writer of Apocrypha (who, yes, is not the same writer of the main Fate stories, obviously). Jeanne's main problem is how she is a very flat character, because they can't give many goals or desires to a woman who's a saint, totally satisfied with just serving the Lord. So, pairing her with a passive character like Sieg is an awful combination, as someone like him should be paired with a dynamic character to work. This is probably why Jeanne Alter is more popular a character, because she is a lot more dynamic than regular Jeanne. Not liking a character is fine, but actively misrepresenting and slandering her (calling her a b***), because of your own ignorance is just cringe to watch. The same could be said during the Karna fight. I wanted him to win too. He SHOULD logically have won (just like Gil should have won against Shirou in UBW, and canonically won because he had a*al with Rin, but you didn't complain about that did you?), but your ignorance to the mythological references to his loss made it legit painful to watch. Your awful reactions were more painful than Apocrypha in of itself. Lack of media literacy should be even more obvious now. How did you come to the conclusion Gil killed Enkidu? His best friend? The one person he adored and treasured above all others? Take a moment to actually research these characters. They are based on real myths, and legends, and your continued ignorance is starting to edge on disrespectful.
Bro I was so shocked that they didn't knew who king Arthur was when they did the fate zero reaction. Also about the Karna fight It says (in fate lore not in Hindu mythology) that his immortality comes with his armour, and to active his NP (the weapon Indra gave to him) he needs to remove his golden armour. So basically giving up his immortality. That's why siege manages to kill Karana
Spoilers if you haven't seen Heaven's Feel Remember the sword Rin used against Sakura that connects to and draws mana form multiple parallel worlds? The old man, Zelretch, is owner of said sword. He's the wielder of the Second Magic which as far as we know, allows him to travel through, observe, and interfere, with parallel worlds and timelines. However, he rarely does so since excessive observation or interference of a single possibility will make it the only possibility. Essentially, if he looks at something too much, it becomes canon.
This version of Gilgamesh is THE CLOSEST version of how powerful the original LIVING Gilgamesh was when he engaged Enkidu. The power alone he was able to pull out from Tine (and thus the magic leyline) allowes him to touch upon his original strength. Enkidu draws his power from the Counter Force in order to fight so he never truly runs out of magic and instead uses his physical body as a form of compensation to fight with bis Age of Babylon NP which creates all his weapons This gentlemen... is the og Gilgamesh and Enkidu power structure
Wow i am suprise how much they don't like Jeanne in apocrypha,while i do think that Jeanne in fate grand order is better than fate apocrypha but for me overall she still fine in apocrypha
40:44 for those confuse. Basically this “old man” is one of the mages mentioned in Fate Stay Night Heaven’s Feel Route when they talk about the 6 *Magics* Created to try reaching the *Root* in his case he created the Second Magic known as *Zelretch* or *Kaleidoscope*, A Domain Where he can interact directly with parallel worlds as he wishes.
Not sure but I think the oldman in the end is Zelretch. He uses the Second True Magic called Kaleidoscope (also called Zelretch). Which is about Parallel universes and stuff. There are five True magics in the Nasuverse. And that Kaleidoscope is one of them, there's also Heaven's Feel which is the Third Magic. It materializes the soul. Explained in the Heaven's Feel movies as well as in Apocrypha.
20:44 "Those who'd know my actual name would be my true self" The servant Flat summoned isn't Jack the Ripper, like the assassin of black from Apocrypha, but rather the *legend* of Jack the Ripper.
Eh not exactly. It is the entity of jack the ripper, similar to Apocrypha. The difference is that Apocrypha took a form based on the collective consciousness of children that were aborted and since that was purified by Jeanne, the entity is now formless and searching for the truth of its existence.
@@skychieftain Quick correction, Apocrypha's Jack still exists and can be summoned (just look at Fate/Grand Order as an example), and Apocrypha's Jack is not strange fake's Jack. Fate/strange fake's Jack is the idea that Jack the Ripper could've been anyone, so it's not the exact same as Fate/Apocrypha's.
@@skychieftain Throne of Heroes shenanigans. Even if Jack was purified in Apocrypha, it doesn't matter to the rest of the multiverse if that purification didn't reach the Throne of Heroes.
The old man at the after credits isn't a god, he's Zelretch one of the Dead Apostle Ancestor, the strongest vampires that still exist in the world. He is the creator of the Jewel Sword and grandfather of the Tohsaka family and also the user of one true magic. In his prime he defeated Crimson Moon Brunestud the Type Moon himself and king of the True Ancestors (the original vampires) an existence WAY above servants and even gods. He can access endless universes and syphon power from them, that's what he was doing at the end, just checking the outcomes of this fake war.
Just some small corrections, Zelretch isn't a Dead Apostle in Fate worlds (though, strange fake is a mix of Tsukihime and Fate worlds, so he might be one in it), and he isn't the grandfather of the Tohsaka family (unless you meant it in a metaphorical way), he's more like their "master/teacher."
When real Archer comes in, its gonna be a war, so excited to see that come in the future. Also, bro said, I'll show you the og UBW and brought the rain
Part of the genius of the Fake holy grail war is that all of the servants summoned in it are falsehoods to their respective classes Berserker is a servant whose madness was negated by the affects of his class and can operate with the clear mind of a killer Assassin is someone who could not be accepted as one of the Hassans, but whose abilites actually exceed them Caster is merely a writer without any magic ability whatsoever but whose forgeries break the realm of magic itself Rider exists as the materialization of a concept rather than a master of mounted combat, so he has no proper form or mount Lancer does not use a spear or a weapon but was created as the perfect weapon of the gods to use against gilgamesh Archer use's no bow or gun but uses ammunition greater than any such devise could possibly fire themselves And Saber... I will let them get to him first
U guys probably miss the Lord El-Melloi series.. its a story about how Weaver Velvet become the second El-Melloi.. this series is so underrated pls watch it.
@@hamzahax because its not popular i recommended it to them. im just saying that they might miss it or idk i probably miss their reaction or something.
It really pisses me off that these two call Jeanne a bitch when she was literally doing exactly what she was supposed to be doing. I mean apparently the original ruler shirou gets a pass according to these two.
Apart from getting attached to sieg she was well within her rights as a ruler to side with the black faction, especially considering the previous ruler shirou who shouldn't even be there literally controls the red faction. All she was doing is working with the black faction to stop him.
@@MasterofChaldea015 Just an observation but when neel reacts to stuff alone he seems more intelligent, but it appears that whenever he reacts with faixty he loses a few brain cells.
Small tips: Gilgamesh and his ultimate weapon "Ea" can literally destroy an entire planet if he willing to do so, just because of that "Ea" was made by the gods to destroy and recreate a planet. But the earth has some kind of deterrence for not getting destroyed. Which restricting Ea's full scale power to cause any critical damage to the earth.
Well sure this isn’t a typical holy grail war. But have we ever seen a “typical” holy grail war before? We’ve seen two wars in Fuyuki tainted with all of world’s evil, one split into 2 sides governed by a Ruler, we haven’t seen it yet but there’s one on the moon from the future of a parallel timeline, and currently we are in a middle of both the Grand Order and this fake. Personally I’d actually like to see what a normal holy grail war is like.
Wonder what there reaction will be to the other worthy servant that is a match for Gil will be. Actually theres gonna be a few servants here of fighting Gil. No Gil and Enkidu stalemated after 3 days of fighting with Enkidu and pretty much running out of stuff to throw at him out of the Gate of Babylon. Gil did not kill Enkidu the Mesopotamian god created him to keep Gil in check but he failed to the gods took away Enkidus life and power he did in Gil’s arms but Gil did not kill Enkidu.
That's true for Shirou. Not really true for Arthur. That would be Saber Prototype whonis still King Arthur. But I can see them taking some design cues from him wehn designing Richard.
Bro still salty that his husbando didn't won a fight in the show they dropped (that was bs, yes, but it had logic and they bothered to explain it) so he keeps actively slandering a character he completely misunderstood because he can't read.
I don't even like Apocrypha. And even I think that your reason to dislike Jeanne are BS. It had 2 Rulers and I don't see you giving shit to Amakusa Shirou.
You ain't wrong, in the panels its described Gilgamesh destroyed the world 7 times over with Ea however Enkidu rebuilt it 7 times back with Enuma Elish
Let's be honest; we're here with these dudes cause they follow Fate series despite how they regard Apocrypha, and the disregard towards history & lore... We're here because we are Fate fans...
No, Gil doesn't kill Enkidu. Enkidu died because of a curse from the gods, which also explains why "a curse of death" is Enkidu's natural enemy
More specifically its Ishtar's bitch ass fault smh
and the one who has that curse of death is ONE OF THE FOUR HORSEMAN right?
@@GALERI_GPIB yup The Horseman of Pestilence
@@gluebreeza1999
Minor spoilers for Fate/strange fake ahead
Technically, False Rider is actually the Horseman of Death, not Pestilence (though, all of the Horseman are an aspect of Death, so Pale Rider can still use the abilities of Pestilence).
the servant is probably a rider thus it would make sense for them to be death or famine as one of the horsemen
What Gilgamesh and Enkidu did here was the equivalent of a friendly fist-bump between those two best friends.
Friendly fist-bump that managed to destroy and recreate the earth multiple times
@@lopezroilans.8384 Probably. Though the seven times destroyed and put together was in their multi-day clash when they became friends, I think (because it was Shamhat, the sacred prostitute, who said that).
@@lopezroilans.8384not Earth, but World, clear distinction in the Fate.
Gilgamesh did not kill Enkidu, they were evenly matched, their fight ended when Gilgamesh fell over backwards from laughing.
They would go on to become best friends.
Enkidu died due to a curse from the Gods who cursed him due to Gilgamesh pissing off Ishtar (the Goddess which is merged with Rin in Babylonia).
Their death is what made Gilgamesh go on his journey for immortality, which caused him to become not just a better person, but also a good King.
also the skin of the snake that ate the elixir of immortality when gil wasnt paying attention was used as a catalyst to summon him in fate/zero
It's funny, but he realized only after the snake ate the herb and stole it from him that immortality wasn't as cracked up as it appeared. He went back later to get the elixir but never used it - he just wanted it for his collection.
It's the one he tosses like trash to Tine lmao
@@azensura What wonders me is that the catalyst is usually tied to version of the hero summoned, like if you used the rhongomyniad lance you wouldn´t summon artoria saber but probably her lancer version.
If they used the snake skin to summon him in zero and that snake is tied to his legend in achieving enlightenment then shouldnt they have summoned the enlightened older "kind"ish"" gilgamesh instead of the the young tyrant?
@@michi6486 Not necessarily, since his younger self was absolutely obsessed with gaining immortality. I’d say the skin played an even larger part in his early tyrant days versus after where he didn’t even care much about it.
After this, you realize that Gilgamesh was toying with Berserkers.
also. that no one actually had the Mana/Space for Gil to go all out.
Like, this grail war works due to the large empty areas to allow for mass bombardment. In a city it is way harder.
@@FlaschenJoe11 the mana more specifically... i doubt gil ever cared much for the space. but gil's master is supported here by literally a plethora of mages' worth of mana.
@@indiomie
He doesn't care about the mana. Due to his Independent Action skill, plus Gate of Babylon having minimal mana cost, he would be able to fight at full power even if his master was a vegetable.
21:14 no he is not an old as man he is literally nothing. He is the embodiment of the mystery of Jack.
33:21, gil didn't kill enkidu, enkidu died of a curse(kind of)
Do you remember the gem-stone sword Rin used in her battle against Sakura in the final Heaven's Feel movie?
The old man in the end credits is the creator of the original version of that sword (which Shirou copied). He is a legendary mage, the user of the second magic, who defeated Type Moon (an Ultimate One, and the vampire king, who's one of the strongest beings in the entire Nasuverse).
In the Tsukihime timeline, Type Moon bit him, and turned him into a vampire. In the Fate timeline, he didn't get bit, but found another way to gain eternal life.
Wait ....type moon is an actual character in nasuverse? I thought it was a gaming company?
Also...I heard there is a character who can travel multiple timelines and hence tsukihime , garden of sinners and fate are connected?
@@307nishchay8 Type Moon, The Crimson Moon, otherwise known as Arcueid Brunestud.
@@PurpleHeartE54 Naruhodo...
@@PurpleHeartE54 arcuied brunstud also known as moon princess or white princess of true ancestors is not Type moon/crimson moon. She's Archetype Earth and Crimson moon is her father/ancestor.
@@Singularity764 You're replying to a 4 month old comment-
So, a bit of an explanation on the last scene, the one with the old man and the phone talking about the "spider":
-That's Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg, one of the 3 people in the whole Fate Multiverse that can use True Magic and one of the strongest mages in the entire multiverse. His Magic allows him to look and manipulate alternate reality. The book he was looking at was the infinite comprendium of all parallel universes. He's one of the founding father of the Mage Association and originally helped create the Holy Grail War in Fuyuki with the Makiri, Einzbern and Tohsaka
-The other guy, the one that spoke through the telephone, that's Caubac Alcatraz, a vampire who can rival Zelretch in power but he's stuck in an infinite labyrith of his own creation and the phone is the only contact with the outside world. We don't know a lot about him.
-The "Spider" that was mentioned by Zelretch is ORT, an alien super-organism from the Oort Nebula that crashed into South America before 0 AD. Since it comes from the Oort Nebula, it lacks the terrestrian concept of death and cannot be killed through conventional means, that's why Zelretch is so focused on it not waking up. It possess the ability called Crystal Valley. Similar to Unlimited Blade Works, the ability transform the surronding into a piece of the Oort Nebula to support its own life by warping the law of physics. Should it awaken, the entire planet would be covered in this ability and therefore made uninhabitable forever to humankind
Are we supposed to know that?
@@mangofit1531 If you ate enough Nasuverse content, yes.
@@mangofit1531Not really, if you've seen other Fate, you should be somewhat familiar with Zelrech and Ort (Alcatraz is even more obscure character).
But they're not that important to the story of Strange Fake overall, the Light Novel didn't even name them in that scene.
The only thing you really need to know is that Ort (aka the giant spider) = bad news.
@@mangofit1531 Yes, Zelretch has been around since Heaven's Feel (with a much bigger role than the movie actually showed) and all 3 have been mentioned and shown in Tsukihime. It's not something that you MUST know going into Strange Fake, but it helps you understand an otherwise pointless scene
@@ulquiorra9729 I have to read Heaven's Feel, I just watched the movies
"this is the heartless gilgamesh" no sir, once enkidu joins the fray he is PUPPY gilgamesh xD ok? PUPPY
I think you should watch all of babylonia before, but its not that big of a deal😊
I think they have it on their Patron, but considering their misconception about Gil killing Enkidu, im not so sure because they shouldn't even have that thought after Babylonia.
Agreed
@@rinny5500not to be hateful on them but they do at times miss or don’t understand information and it’s not mainly a them issue but a thing that happens to people and esixlalay considering their job is to watch and react to many shows little details can be forgotten.
@@metalcobra726yeah, they gotta watch but also be mindful about their reactions and the content, its easy to miss things when you're not fully focused on a show
This volume predate even FGO so its not that big of a deal true. For later volume tho sure, watching babylonia help to understand some context for example gil and enkidu connection to certain goddess, and bull
in the Lord El-Melloi II case file they explain more Waver and his student, probably not a bad idea to watch that while wait for Strange Fake TV series airs
King Arthur being a male servant isn't disrespect. He is supposed to be male but heroic spirits by having inconsistencies in their lore, create the variations that should have not existed. In Fate Prototype, King Arthur is male. Just like Jack the Ripper of FSF and the little girl you saw in Apocrypha. They are maybe the same Jack the Ripper in the history but the vagueness of the story suggested that "JTR was a child of a prostitute and got abandoned so she is seeking her mother" is simply one of the aspects Jack the Ripper. In Strange/Fake, he is a formless spirit who can take any form of his desire for having identity issue of not knowing who he really is.
Enkidu is Gil's best friend (it's implied they were somewhat lovers in the real Epic of Gilgamesh, which is a real documented literature piece that exists irl and it was found in Uruk, which was a real place and not something Fate made up on the spot), and if you say anything bad to the clay (even if its something as benign as thinking Gil would kill them), Gil will just outright kill you no questions asked.
Its not gay if its clay
Gilgamesh didnt kill Enkidu it was the gods who did. Gilgamesh empty his whole treasury fighting Enkidu 3 days and nights into a draw. The last guy you see seated in "space" he also appear in Heaven's Feel 3 when they talked bout the crystal sword with infinite power, the guy seated is the owner of that blade. He is that powerful
What's his name ?
@@kaiquesousa4566Zelretch
whos the person on the phone
"best first episode of any fate series so far"
funny that it comes from two person who barely understand the fate's lore
I'm just relieved they finally realized that was Waver they were watching this whole time. He is just this one guy in the background with massive protagonist potential reduced to an easter egg.
He has his own series actually
@@vezz_gamer4303 I'm aware, just talking about his overall presence in general.
So as he’s alluded the fake grail war is colliding with a real one.
Strange fake is weird as it’s aside from grand order the series which takes major element from tsukihime as well as your standard fate stuff.
My final but no less important note is that in this war is that the master may be just as dangerous as the servant even in a pure combat sense and trust me it’s gonna get wild especially when true archer turns up.
This episode was released as a special on its own. They have announced there will be a full series, but it's not clear exactly when, so you may have a bit of a wait for it.
I literally cried while watching gilgamesh vs enkidu
Ive watched fate stay night in 2008 when i was only 5 years old, ever since then, ive been a massive fate fan, ive waited so long for this and when they fought, i cried because not only is my dream animated, it exceeded my expectation by a landslide
What? That disjointed fight with terrible animation and production quality exceeded your expectations? How low were your hopes?
But did enkidu hugging the puppy make you cry?
@@skychieftainit's not only about the duration and animation quality of the fight.
@@skychieftain i pray for your health
the only thing I worry about this comment is that you watched it when you were 5, when I was 5 i watched tom and jerry, Ben 10, Inazuma 11, slam dunk and captain tsubasa (with many more)
What is their beef with Ruler? The only one I remember was from Apocrypha, and she was great. I can't think of a reason why anyone would hate her.
No kidding I was just as confused over there dislike of Ruler. I thought she was handled well in Apocrypha.
@@Elementalbeing716 Agreed. She was easily one of my favorites from that show. "bitch" is absolutely not a term I would use to describe her lol.
@@DR_REDACTED Oof. Well, thanks for the explanation. I'll be hard skipping their Apocrypha reactions then. It sounds like they were obtusely ignoring the narrative of the show.
@@zankudragonThat's exactly what they did.
I feel like their reaction is kinda justifi3d considering the unfairness known as Sieg
ah yes the war gil starts off like normal archer, sits up straight: "CLAE BAE!" Zooms off to the desert to give a celestial bro fist.
Ngl, that's funny af
Waver has an anime called the Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II. So you can see how he has been living his life after Fate/Zero
fun fact the cracks in the screen from Ea are a nice little detail to show the swords ability to break space.
Reality marble*
@@skychieftain
Yes and no, Ea actually does break space-time, which is actually part of the reason it can destroy Reality Marbles in the first place.
@@infernousgaming1393 nope. It cannot destroy space in a general sense. It can only destroy false realities since it's whole power is to transport everyone to Earth before life (the true world).
@@skychieftain
That's... sort of true, but not exactly.
See, Ea recreates the moment when creation began and shows the "truth" of the world by showing the world/void before creation, but it does this by breaking and distorting space-time. This is pretty explicitly stated in Fate/stay night's weapon entries, material books, and other series that Gilgamesh shows up in.
@@infernousgaming1393 except that it only creates a hole to send things into that world by removing the false reality that is the Earth's reality marble. That means if he were to use Enuma Elish on Mars, it would do nothing since Mars was always in its true state.
40:26 the only reason the attack didn't exceed that area is due elkidu he contained and minimized gil's attack if not the entire world could have been destroyed
The guy at the end is Kishur Zelretch Schweinorg, the Magician of the Second True Magic, Kaleidoscope. He helped the founding families to create the Fuyuki Grail system, he created the Jewel Sword Zelretch (Rin used a reproduction of it in Heaven's Feel) [For both he had a cameo in Heaven's Feel], he also created the Kaleidosticks [which are most prominent in Prisma Illya, but also exist in other timelines], fought the Ultimate One of the Moon (the original Brunestud of the Crimson Moon, the template all True Ancestos and by extension all vampires in the Nasuverse are modeled after) and did win. He is a kind of goodfather of Arcueid and was a direct disciple of Solomon. Yes, he is a big deal in the Nasuverse.
Why do these guys have such a hatred against Apocrypha, like it wasn't the best fate media out there sure, but their hate for it is so over the top for no reason, and they bring it up in every fate related video, multiple times at that, like why?????
They got pissed because karna lost and dropped the series with 3 eps left😂
@@DR_REDACTEDlike nearly every rule wasn't already been broke by that show shirou
Kid Gil = younger years
Archer Gil = teen years
Caster Gil = older years
Caster Gil is the better one. Losing his friend Enkidu changed him turning himself from his former tyrant self into a better king. The only Archer version of Gilgamesh that I can accept is the one in Fate/Extra and nothing more.
Archer ain't a teen, he's early 20s at best
Skill issue
a mongrels L take
@@fkez0510 there is a kid gil variant in prisma illya
Archer Gil still has a chaotic good alignment lol he was still someone who advanced humanity as a hero even if he was tyrannical prick
9:13 hits hard when you think that Waver is talking about Kayneth
Some notes about some stuff:
- Berserker Jack can't be seen - not because he's in spirit form - but because he literally doesn't have an appearance, this comes into play of his noble phantasm of changing into anything he wants, except for a unique and original appearance due to his legend.
- The crazy girl in the office is called Francesca Prelati. In history, he was a murderer that helped with Gilles de Rais' murder spree, which is why she's obsessed with Ruler (Jeanne). In Fate, he's a powerful mage that studied under spirits who studied under Merlin and has died multiple times, but swapped to a different body with each death (why he's female). His first death however, earned him a seat in the Throne of Heroes and thus while still being alive in a female body, his original male body has been recorded as a Heroic Spirit.
- Tsubaki, the little girl that's hospitalised, summoned False Rider, that's all you should know for now.
- False Caster, True Name: Alexandre Dumas, his noble phantasm is to essentially rewrite legends (of noble phantasms) and actualise them (can also boost their ranks by one) - as explained in the special - which is why the Police Chief (Orlando) has a squad of police officers with rewritten noble phantasms.
- The old man is Kischur Zelretch Shweinorg, a Magician - an owner of True Magic - unlike a typical magus. His True Magic is Kaleidoscope, to see into alternative timelines such as the original Fate/Stay Night's three timelines (routes) and their endings, including the bad endings, he can also see into timelines of series' like Fate/Apocrypha or Fate/Extra so he knows basically existing Fate series. He's also in Tsukihime but that's an Alternate Universe and, most likely Kara no Kyoukai, though, these are Alternate Universe versions of him.
- The "spider" is ORT, classified as Type-Mercury, but is actually from the Oort Cloud and not the planet. Long story short, ORT's an alien that qualifies as an Dead Apostle because of their vampiric behaviour and poses a extinctual danger to humanity and Gaia if it's awakened.
- The servant at the end is True Saber, he's King Arthur's biggest fan, that's all you should know for now.
- The girl that summoned True Saber is Ayaka Sayjou, she's originally the intended Protagonist for first ideation of Fate/Stay Night during the early development for the game, but she became a minor character in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Stay Night Sequel) and her name was never mentioned in the sequel until Strange Fake. There is an OVA of the first ideation for Fate, called Fate/Prototype which tells of the plot that would've been implemented. There's also a comic called Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver that serves as a prequel to when the plot for Fate/Prototype takes place.
thx for the spoilers🖤
@@turritopsis_said80 those arent spoilers lol
6:34 Waver Velvet, he has his own series now Lord El-Melloi case files
I recomend it
Fax and neel the old mem you see at 40:53 is features kischut Zelretch Schweinorg. In fate havens feels rin used his sword to fight sakura remever overpower dagger-jewel type sword called sword of zelretch. As you know fate has many verse and every universe have same character but diffrent set up but in all these worlds there is only one zelretch (expect from tuskihime timelines he has diffrent history ) weilder of second magic, disicple of grand caster solomon act as an observer
You should have watched Case Files first before Grand Order, but at least you finally recognized Waver lol (still they don't know about Gray)
Maybe you didn't pay attention to HF3 or just forgot, but the old mage at the end is Zelretch
Since you don't know much about the Nasuverse this will be cool to see your first impression of the Dead Apostles and other references of Strange Fake
@@DR_REDACTED I figured after Apocrypha lol, they are only interested in the fights and the cool servants
The real question you have to ask yourself is
At what point did you realize why the series is called STRANGE.
Or indeed FAKE aswell
Gil's inner monologue: alright this one reminds me of Siduri but smaller, so lets keep her around for now.
In that scene where they both do their np, reality was shattered and recreated 7 times. Gil was destroying it, while Enkidu was putting back together, or so I’ve heard it states in the LN. Also that lightning scene where the girl gets scared, the impact frames are gil and enkidu clashing, I recommend watching it in slow-mo cause it’s cool asf
Side note: Why do they not like Jeanne😭? What she do???
That destroying and creating the world 7 times is when they were Alive they were fighting for 3 days straight
Not here this is when they were alive in the original
Kinda spoiler but ...
Francesca is Francois Prelatti a person from Jeanne's time who gave Gilles de rais aka bluebeard from Fate/Zero his spell book and taught him everything to do with black magic as well as fucked torture and killing methods also encouraged him to kidnap and kill kids all in the name of Jeanne's death all because it was entertaining so thats why she wants to violate her because thats how she has fun lol
@@gluebreeza1999 no I mean the 2 guys reacting. What she do😭
@@fellow_otaku349 oh shit nvm lol I thought you meant why that little girl hated Ruler so much lol but iirc they didn't like how Ruler wasn't consistently following her own "rules" in Apoc
Gilgamesh did not kill Enkidu
their fight end in a stalemate and that how they become friend
what kill Enkidu is their creator
Why are they so Pissed at any mention of apocrypha Was Karna losing really that big of a deal for them
yes yes it was he literally only lost to bs plot and he lets it go because hes the most noble hero there and think thats okay. karna was strong enough to defeat every other servant in that war by him self and it wasnt even close
@shiyamshankar3980 But was it bad enough to quit an entire show with 3 episodes left beacuse he lost to the MAIN character seems like a crazy overreaction in my opinion
Exactly! It wasn’t even that bad. Karna was my favorite to and I was fine with the way he went out plus, after watching Tsiah IV’s don’t sleep on series and learning more of the apocrypha servants feats the fights wouldn’t be as one sided as other would believe.
@@DR_REDACTEDwhut.... I didn't finish Apocrypha but I thought the writing must have been so horrible since they are shitting on it in every Babylonia reaction. If they are so bitter over Just power creeping well damn lmao
@shoujoru That was easily the worst reacted series I've seen from these two. Once they lock in a favorite character (Karna/Gilgamesh) don't let anything happen to those characters lol.
Lmfao what did Jeanne do in Apocrypha
Jack The Ripper changes everytime you summon him/her because we really didn't know who he/she was.
In Apocrypha, the Jack that was summoned was the amalgamation of the ab*rted kids of the pr*stitutes. This Jack is another interpretation of who Jack was.
If you summon Jack again in another holy grail war, he's likely gonna be a different being again.
The mystery of who Jack the Ripper was is a big part of his legend so there's a constant change of who or what gets summoned.
Actually no, in Apocrypha she is a girl for that explanation, but that is her form in the Assassin class because she represents the murders as such. In Strange Fake he is of the Berserker class and represents the madness that he generated in the population for not knowing his identity.
When Gilgamesh says; "Oh, I won't bore you." -"Not even one of you!"
he looks directly at 'camera'!! IF THAT IS NOT FANSERVICE AT BEST, THEN WHAT IS!!??
Proceeds to disappoint every one lol
"I am glad that he's doing good"
One word, *debt*
This is the most broken Grail War aside from that one where solomon was summoned
It feels like it's never not broken. At least, none of the ones we actually see. Zero I guess would be closest to "as intended", but even that had weirdness.
Everyone knew there was going to be a Fate Strange Fake anime adaptation. It was supposed to air in Dec. of 2022, but got delayed. Then a few days before the episode aired, they started showing trailers and saying the first episode would be out. I don't believe we know anything about when the next episode comes out. As of me writing this comment, it's been a week since this episode aired and still no episode 2.
Lmao, it's kind of crazy how much they absolutely despise Jeanne. Apocrypha was not well written, but Jeanne, Ruler, did literally nothing wrong. 😂
"She should be unbiased-" No, a Ruler's job is to prevent the actual destruction of humanity, which Amakusa Shirou was close to achieving (though he meant good).
This is such a perfect example of projecting your dislike of a show onto a character, that was not even originally created by the writer of Apocrypha (who, yes, is not the same writer of the main Fate stories, obviously).
Jeanne's main problem is how she is a very flat character, because they can't give many goals or desires to a woman who's a saint, totally satisfied with just serving the Lord. So, pairing her with a passive character like Sieg is an awful combination, as someone like him should be paired with a dynamic character to work. This is probably why Jeanne Alter is more popular a character, because she is a lot more dynamic than regular Jeanne.
Not liking a character is fine, but actively misrepresenting and slandering her (calling her a b***), because of your own ignorance is just cringe to watch.
The same could be said during the Karna fight. I wanted him to win too. He SHOULD logically have won (just like Gil should have won against Shirou in UBW, and canonically won because he had a*al with Rin, but you didn't complain about that did you?), but your ignorance to the mythological references to his loss made it legit painful to watch.
Your awful reactions were more painful than Apocrypha in of itself.
Lack of media literacy should be even more obvious now. How did you come to the conclusion Gil killed Enkidu? His best friend? The one person he adored and treasured above all others?
Take a moment to actually research these characters. They are based on real myths, and legends, and your continued ignorance is starting to edge on disrespectful.
I'm not a fan of Karna
i was rooting for Sieg and i love Jeanne
The bland homunculus was the worst part of Apocrypha. If they let Gordes kill him, it would have been a better anime 😂
Bro I was so shocked that they didn't knew who king Arthur was when they did the fate zero reaction.
Also about the Karna fight
It says (in fate lore not in Hindu mythology) that his immortality comes with his armour, and to active his NP (the weapon Indra gave to him) he needs to remove his golden armour. So basically giving up his immortality. That's why siege manages to kill Karana
@@zerosnake2328 in fate lore there's no immortality with Armor stuff.
damm i can smell you through my screen
27:05 Funny how this part of their conversation is literally mentioning Shirou. The guy who's literally the counter for Gate of Babylon
Spoilers if you haven't seen Heaven's Feel
Remember the sword Rin used against Sakura that connects to and draws mana form multiple parallel worlds? The old man, Zelretch, is owner of said sword. He's the wielder of the Second Magic which as far as we know, allows him to travel through, observe, and interfere, with parallel worlds and timelines. However, he rarely does so since excessive observation or interference of a single possibility will make it the only possibility. Essentially, if he looks at something too much, it becomes canon.
This version of Gilgamesh is THE CLOSEST version of how powerful the original LIVING Gilgamesh was when he engaged Enkidu. The power alone he was able to pull out from Tine (and thus the magic leyline) allowes him to touch upon his original strength. Enkidu draws his power from the Counter Force in order to fight so he never truly runs out of magic and instead uses his physical body as a form of compensation to fight with bis Age of Babylon NP which creates all his weapons
This gentlemen... is the og Gilgamesh and Enkidu power structure
Wow i am suprise how much they don't like Jeanne in apocrypha,while i do think that Jeanne in fate grand order is better than fate apocrypha but for me overall she still fine in apocrypha
The author just butchered her character in apoc.
@@DR_REDACTED am talking about jeanne x seig overall relationship growth, it's too fast paced
40:44 for those confuse.
Basically this “old man” is one of the mages mentioned in Fate Stay Night Heaven’s Feel Route when they talk about the 6 *Magics* Created to try reaching the *Root* in his case he created the Second Magic known as *Zelretch* or *Kaleidoscope*, A Domain Where he can interact directly with parallel worlds as he wishes.
Not sure but I think the oldman in the end is Zelretch. He uses the Second True Magic called Kaleidoscope (also called Zelretch). Which is about Parallel universes and stuff.
There are five True magics in the Nasuverse. And that Kaleidoscope is one of them, there's also Heaven's Feel which is the Third Magic. It materializes the soul. Explained in the Heaven's Feel movies as well as in Apocrypha.
I cant wait for Alcaeus/Alcides to show up and mop gil, Herc is gonna finally get some good airtime.
The Gil in babylonia is Caster Gil who is based on when he is less arrogant and more wiser later in his life.
20:44 "Those who'd know my actual name would be my true self"
The servant Flat summoned isn't Jack the Ripper, like the assassin of black from Apocrypha, but rather the *legend* of Jack the Ripper.
Eh not exactly. It is the entity of jack the ripper, similar to Apocrypha. The difference is that Apocrypha took a form based on the collective consciousness of children that were aborted and since that was purified by Jeanne, the entity is now formless and searching for the truth of its existence.
There are many legends about jack the ripper, therefore he has many forms.
@@skychieftain
Quick correction, Apocrypha's Jack still exists and can be summoned (just look at Fate/Grand Order as an example), and Apocrypha's Jack is not strange fake's Jack. Fate/strange fake's Jack is the idea that Jack the Ripper could've been anyone, so it's not the exact same as Fate/Apocrypha's.
@@infernousgaming1393 but didn't Jeanne purify Jack the ripper? How can they be summoned again
@@skychieftain
Throne of Heroes shenanigans. Even if Jack was purified in Apocrypha, it doesn't matter to the rest of the multiverse if that purification didn't reach the Throne of Heroes.
The old man at the after credits isn't a god, he's Zelretch one of the Dead Apostle Ancestor, the strongest vampires that still exist in the world. He is the creator of the Jewel Sword and grandfather of the Tohsaka family and also the user of one true magic.
In his prime he defeated Crimson Moon Brunestud the Type Moon himself and king of the True Ancestors (the original vampires) an existence WAY above servants and even gods.
He can access endless universes and syphon power from them, that's what he was doing at the end, just checking the outcomes of this fake war.
Just some small corrections, Zelretch isn't a Dead Apostle in Fate worlds (though, strange fake is a mix of Tsukihime and Fate worlds, so he might be one in it), and he isn't the grandfather of the Tohsaka family (unless you meant it in a metaphorical way), he's more like their "master/teacher."
really cant wait for one of my Fav saber to be finally fully animated
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS LOL
When real Archer comes in, its gonna be a war, so excited to see that come in the future.
Also, bro said, I'll show you the og UBW and brought the rain
Black shadow is the Pale Rider “death.” The man with the red in his hir is Richard the Lionheart.
Part of the genius of the Fake holy grail war is that all of the servants summoned in it are falsehoods to their respective classes
Berserker is a servant whose madness was negated by the affects of his class and can operate with the clear mind of a killer
Assassin is someone who could not be accepted as one of the Hassans, but whose abilites actually exceed them
Caster is merely a writer without any magic ability whatsoever but whose forgeries break the realm of magic itself
Rider exists as the materialization of a concept rather than a master of mounted combat, so he has no proper form or mount
Lancer does not use a spear or a weapon but was created as the perfect weapon of the gods to use against gilgamesh
Archer use's no bow or gun but uses ammunition greater than any such devise could possibly fire themselves
And Saber...
I will let them get to him first
Slight spoilers for Fate/stange fake ahead.
Saber's not a "fake;" he's part of the "true" Holy Grail War.
@@infernousgaming1393 hence why i was omitting that
But he has a falsehood of his own
@@bailinton4171
Ah, fair enough, and true, he does have a few secrets around him.
“ I wonder if they ad iskandar to other series “
Lord el melloi series exist :
to Gil and Enkidu, that was just their bro-fist wwww
you can watch Gigguk's video about Fate, maybe you can clearly understand more
Yes. I'd love to see their reaction. I'n sure it'll be priceless.... or just plain weird.... maybe 😂
Gil never kill Enkindu, they were best of buddies until gods kill enkindu
U guys probably miss the Lord El-Melloi series.. its a story about how Weaver Velvet become the second El-Melloi.. this series is so underrated pls watch it.
they didn't watch it cause it isn't as popular
@@hamzahax because its not popular i recommended it to them. im just saying that they might miss it or idk i probably miss their reaction or something.
It really pisses me off that these two call Jeanne a bitch when she was literally doing exactly what she was supposed to be doing. I mean apparently the original ruler shirou gets a pass according to these two.
Apart from getting attached to sieg she was well within her rights as a ruler to side with the black faction, especially considering the previous ruler shirou who shouldn't even be there literally controls the red faction. All she was doing is working with the black faction to stop him.
My point is that you two should know your facts before slandering a character, it will help you avoid coming off as complete idiots.
Kids are kids and these 2 are some of the most annoying kids I've ever seen
@@MasterofChaldea015 Just an observation but when neel reacts to stuff alone he seems more intelligent, but it appears that whenever he reacts with faixty he loses a few brain cells.
Hiroyuki sawano is the best composer of all time ❤
Gil cant kill enkidu.. enkidu is creation, gil is destruction when they use enuma elish on eachother it automately cancels out
Gil vs. Enkidu is just them going on a date with fireworks as a light show.
gil's np destorys and enkidu's creates complete opposites, that is also the reason for gil said they can be a limited wish granter
This a special episode so the series won't run yet but it's confirmed that's fate strange fake will have an anime at some point
Just so you know the white hair girl is the one who gave fate/zero caster his spell book and made him the way he was.
Small tips:
Gilgamesh and his ultimate weapon "Ea" can literally destroy an entire planet if he willing to do so, just because of that "Ea" was made by the gods to destroy and recreate a planet.
But the earth has some kind of deterrence for not getting destroyed. Which restricting Ea's full scale power to cause any critical damage to the earth.
so hype
W!!! Here we go❤
the final scene is definitely saber.
You are correct.
whats up with the ruler slander???
Freaking psychopaths releasing Enuma Elish as a "long time no see"
Gilgamesh's laugh is back 😂😂
Next day on the news:
Gaz Leaks
Well sure this isn’t a typical holy grail war. But have we ever seen a “typical” holy grail war before? We’ve seen two wars in Fuyuki tainted with all of world’s evil, one split into 2 sides governed by a Ruler, we haven’t seen it yet but there’s one on the moon from the future of a parallel timeline, and currently we are in a middle of both the Grand Order and this fake. Personally I’d actually like to see what a normal holy grail war is like.
Wonder what there reaction will be to the other worthy servant that is a match for Gil will be. Actually theres gonna be a few servants here of fighting Gil.
No Gil and Enkidu stalemated after 3 days of fighting with Enkidu and pretty much running out of stuff to throw at him out of the Gate of Babylon. Gil did not kill Enkidu the Mesopotamian god created him to keep Gil in check but he failed to the gods took away Enkidus life and power he did in Gil’s arms but Gil did not kill Enkidu.
You guys are going to love the end of Babylonia, Believe me.
so the sabre at the end is the og characters designs before sabre and shiro but the author changed them into what we have now
That's true for Shirou. Not really true for Arthur. That would be Saber Prototype whonis still King Arthur.
But I can see them taking some design cues from him wehn designing Richard.
I hope you can see lord el melloi II to learn more about waver and his students with a touch of mystery, nice reaction 🥲💛
Bro still salty that his husbando didn't won a fight in the show they dropped (that was bs, yes, but it had logic and they bothered to explain it) so he keeps actively slandering a character he completely misunderstood because he can't read.
The holy grail war is conducted "hidden" from ordinary people. Lol
Guess that was just a gaz explosion
Honestly I want you both to finish Babylonia first but I don't know anything about this season and what to expect
It is very interesting to see your reaction to the films Robocop and Robocop 3. This is a cool immortal classic 👍🔥
There are 2 more diety and one may be even stronger than gilgamesh
Finally a serious Gil🖤
I don't even like Apocrypha. And even I think that your reason to dislike Jeanne are BS.
It had 2 Rulers and I don't see you giving shit to Amakusa Shirou.
I’m pretty sure the saber is Guilamen
6:45 lord el melloi
let's goooooo!!
You ain't wrong, in the panels its described Gilgamesh destroyed the world 7 times over with Ea however Enkidu rebuilt it 7 times back with Enuma Elish
I love gun magic
Let's be honest; we're here with these dudes cause they follow Fate series despite how they regard Apocrypha, and the disregard towards history & lore... We're here because we are Fate fans...
gil didn’t killed enkidu
enkidu died by god
Bro still there is no ep 2 😢😢😢😢😢
Is fhe last one saber? The one that was not supposed to be here on this fake grail war?
You'll find out! It's pretty cool!