I think 2023 after Williams death, and Elizabeth was in circus baby since 1978(maybe idk) and then Michael was a teenager like you said but now he might be in his late 40s or something
I agree with basically everything here, but one thing to note about SL is that there was initially a Circus Baby’s party world and the animatronics weren’t being rented out to different places till after Elizabeth went missing and Circus Baby’s closed. We can assume Circus Baby’s was closed after only one day since Circus Baby says she was only in stage for a single day
Figuring out when Mike turned 18 might not be as necessary as you think. In Utah where most if not all of the story takes place child labor laws only apply to kids under 16. Fazbear Entertainment is definitely sketchy enough to hire a teenager for a dangerous job.
I personally like the idea he's around 14/15 in 1983, and 18/19 in 1987, with maybe another couple years for SL, being maybe 21-24, adult enough to highly resemble how William looked in the 80's
Considering he was abysmally smelly and rotting, i dont know how this could be the case. Then again there is that comic where the managers just thought he was really into the horror/halloween vibes
@@JcdHowuH-ce5lw he's a rotting corpse. We have a bodily chemical in our brain and blood that causes the decomposing process of the dead and gives off the odor of rotten cabbage.
I agree with basically everything here, but one thing to note about SL is that there was initially a Circus Baby’s party world and the animatronics weren’t being rented out to different places till after Elizabeth went missing and Circus Baby’s closed. We can assume Circus Baby’s was closed after only one day since Circus Baby says she was only in stage for a single day.
That said it’s possible that the events in Sister Location happened a week prior to Fnaf 2, as Sister Location Entertainment and Rental was still working even after the closure of Circus Baby World. Either that or Fazbear took custody of William’s business and around 1992 the events of Sister Location played out.
I do think Mike was smelly because he was messing with the animatronics. For a long time I thought Mike had “possessed his own corpse” but then I found out that in the books remnant has some pretty extreme healing powers. The FNAF 6 blueprints say there is always remnant on the scoop. I think once Enard left Mike gradually recovered. Maybe he was never fully normal again but he stopped rotting and healed at least to some extent. That’s how he kept getting jobs he looked and probably smelled mostly normal. This doesn’t really affect where Sister Location fits in the timeline. It just means Mike can be actively doing stuff and passing as normal after Sister Location.
@@StephDilimia I don't see why there wouldn't be, especially after having been recently used on Ballora, I would assume that Ennard made sure of it seeing as it they say "You won't die", implying that mike was, potentially, 'alive' still
Glamrock Freddy's eyes moving and changing colours was so distracting for me and my ADHD. Don't worry I still heard everything being said, I just kept having my eyes drawn to him. Lol
If you start taking the possibility of the sister location animatronics not being possessed into consideration, everything fits perfectly, and with the recurrent "Rogue AI" theme of stuff, it wouldn't surprise me if they are the origin of the mimic software
With the release of the Secret of the Mimic Trailer coming out, we see it is in 1979. I think the mimic was the original, and after the events of 1979 Henry shelved the idea. William then builds the funtimes using the original program as its base.
TL:DR - The Funtimes do not need to be built specifically for Remnant experiments. There's something that I don't think I've seen anyone put out there for why the Funtimes were built to kidnap and/or kill children: William Afton is a serial killer, not JUST a scientist looking into Remnant and immortality. The only reason he knows about Remnant is because he is a serial killer. The Funtimes don't HAVE to be built SPECIFICALLY for capturing children to experiment with Remnant. He could have created the Funtimes as another way to continue his killing spree and, after finding out that Remnant exists, repurposed the kids being contained in order to get more Remnant. Nobody has talked about this and it would also fit Elizabeth Afton being killed before the Crying Child, which would in turn justify the line, "Remember what you saw?" There is a counterpoint that serial killers have a preferred method of dealing with their victims (a calling card or significant thing) which people would say William's is his knife, but the Funtimes CAPTURE, not kill kids, so he would still be able to kill them with his knife later when he releases them from the Funtimes. Just figured I should put that out there since I don't recall anyone mentioning this.
If Funtimes only capture kids and not kill them, why Elizabeth die? William is a killer, but he care about her. We know this because William told Elizabeth to not play with Baby. Funtimes must kill children, it doesn't make sense otherwise.
@@Darkrin True. I didn't really think about the death of Elizabeth. But that's our ONLY known death to the Funtimes. Who's to say that everything went right with that death? This is getting into speculation with no evidence, I'll admit that, but what if there was a mistake made with Circus Baby? She was meant to capture and hold kids alive. but accidentally killed the one kid she activated that feature for? Again, there's zero evidence to support that. but I would like to throw some ideas at the wall.
Because it's bullshit, bitevictim Is the first and always Has been and remember this Line "Whats seen in the shadows Is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child"
I'd like to add that the Sister Location bunker is NOT the same as Circus Baby's Pizza World- which I believe is what HandUnit is referring to when it says "the stage was set for another contender in children's entertainment". I personally believe that Circus Baby's Pizza World opened after the OG Freddy Fazbear's pizza closed (the one before the grand reopening in FNAF 2) due to foul odor from the animatronics. It make sense that after Elizabeth got scooped and Circus Baby's never opened, that Afton would repurpose the animatronics and rent them out; creating Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental
Great video! I actually went ahead and played through all the games and took notes of lore details as I did and basically almost everything you said perfectly adds up. But there is one tiny thing I’d like to add. Michael actually didn’t look like a rotting corpse when he got the job for the 87 and the 90s pizzerias. Remnant can actually regenerate the person it’s attached too. Which is why Michael is able to walk around despite us organs and probably his skeleton being ripped out. His insides regenerated and as time goes on his skin begins to regenerate as well. This also explains why Williams corpse looks different each game. The only reason the regeneration doesn’t fully work in his case is because of the springlock suit stopping the regeneration process. This is why his corpse look more human like in fnaf 6 since he no longer has the springlocks in him and can start regenerating.
It is a strong theory. Tho you say after the closing of freddy fazbear, circus baby was a thing. But that could be circus baby pizza world. Not sister location itself. So it could set years after the closing of freddy's
What’s interesting is that when FNAF 3 got updated, whether or not you do the requirements to get the good ending, the final cutscene after William gets springlocked is still the same. The idea that William is part of the business, it makes you wonder if William started off with Afton Robotics? I would love if we had an official FNAF game exploring the HQ of Fazbear Entertainment. That would be cool. P.s. Didn’t think you’d do a face reveal. I pictured you’d do it when you reached a certain amount of subscribers. Still, glad to see your uploads. 😀👍
My face has been revealed on the Shadows channel, so didnt think it was a huge secret ;) and really want to build that connection with the people watching! I love that people tune into the videos and just want to make it more enjoyable for them ;)
Great video and im sorry if this comes off as nitpicky but there are a few pieces of evidence that kinda mess up the timeline placement you made and i just wanna point them out. 1st one is that when circus baby and the funtimes werent made for the rental service but for the pizzaria named Circus baby pizza world and from the trailer and baby's own words it is heavily implied that some time has passed between the pizzaria closing and the rental service opening. When baby talks about her pizzaria she calls it her "Old pizzaria" and in the trailer it says "Deep below ground where memories sleep and secrets dont keep" To me that implies they have been locked up underground for quite some time. the 2nd part is about the springlock suit. I dont think the springlock suit can be used as evidence that sister location takes place before the ban of springlock suits. My reason is that when baby talks about the springlock she says that "It came from my old pizzaria, I dont think it was ever used.. atleast not the way it was meant to be used. too dangerous" This to me implies that the springlock suit was never made or used to be worn my staff but was possibly made for killing. and since its william afton who made it that makes sense. He couldve made it in secret without fazbear entertainment knowing. The fact baby calls out that it was never used the way it was meant to be used sounds like it was used for killing kids or any other kind of experiments. Anyways thats all Sorry if this sounds nerdy i hope this helped a bit
Sister location has a few major events that don't need to be close to each other. Elizabeth getting eaten is first and could be years before anything else. Michael working the week, and then his freedom from Ennerd could have taken days if not weeks.
The *Special* Delivery fact you bring up as evidence is most likely just in reference to springlocks, but these can't really be relied on as they were written by Illumix as placeholders, hence why they were never implemented into the game.
i never thought so much about the association between sl and fazbears. but it really seems to put it before 1987 because william gets droped from the company. good point
I think the books were trying to tell us that If Henry's grief over losing Charlie could cause him to infuse the Ella doll with Agony That ANY animatronic William touches is going to be infected with agony. So the funtim3s may very well just be running off of that.
I would place sister location before FNaF 2 because in the night one phone call in FNaF 2 he says Welcome to your new summer job at the new and improved Freddy fazbears pizza So this means that there was another pizzeria before FNaF 2 so I think sister location is between that old restaurant and FNaF 2
Something that stumped me and probably MatPat was the issue of Balloon Boy. We thought Circus Baby’s Pizza HAD to predate at least the FNAF 2 location, but if we are hinting at a 70’s entity that was circus themed and predates Fredbear’s Family Diner, none of that matters anymore
Nice, so what i already believed. I watched a video that placed SL post fnaf 1, assuming Michael's odor was just because he's a "stinky man", not a rotten corpse yet, and i was like "man, i don't like to think Mikey is there to _help_ his father all along. I like to think he realized earlier and spent _multiple_ decades in search for him, not just 30 years". This video here reinforces my belief of how the timeline works. Nice.
I think candy cadets story makes perfect sense. Each story is essentially about 5 things becoming 1, exactly like the funtime animatronics with the kids souls.
my personal theory to help the placement of sister location is that originally they were made with the intentions to use them to protect kids or for ft. freddy cake and pinatas. and then used them to capture kids during the renting out, after the deaths of elizabeth charlie and the crying child. with sister location happening something after the closure of a freddy's in 1985-1986 due to the mci
With help wanted 2 and into the pit, everything is pointing to sister location being a very early part of the timeline which bothers me because of that line hand unit says. I think the design for circus baby and a lot of the sister location character were taken or inspired by fall fest. That’s why we keep seeing them being brought up so early into the timeline, their characters technically existed in mascot suits and people in costume years before. Don’t ask me how Carine, an intelligent, “human” like animatronic could exist back then cause i have no idea.
There's a difference between when Circus Baby's Pizza World opened and shut, and when sister location happens at CB Entertainment & Rentals. While I agree pizza world most likely opens between 85 and 87, the actual events of sister location could happen much later, as it is unknown how long E&R was open for. William could've been cut from the company shortly after he started E&R, causing him to loose access to the Funtime animatronics, which would explain why he went back to manually killing in FNAF 2, and why he asked Michael to go down there as he himself was on a company blacklist. Additionally, at the end of Mike's speech in SL, he says to William he's "going to come find you" implying that William has been missing for some time. This could very likely be because he has already been springlocked by the time of SL, meaning it would be after FNAF 1. The odour stated in the pink slips in FNAF 1 and 2 is most likely referring to how when mike tampered with the animatronics, the smell of dead children likely rubbed off on him, causing him to smell.
In Felix the Shark, even though it’s noncanon it mentions a guy named Mike who look’s about college age and knows a lot about Fazbear Entertainment. I think maybe the remnant helped him regrow his skin
I wouldve agreed with this video, keg would, worldve, you see, on one of the jewer books which is speciufcally described to happen within the ganes canon (storyline) we get tokd that the sister location bunker was open for a minimum of 2 years, and you basically confirmed that it opened between 1985-1987, so therefore sister location itself must happen in 1995-1997
If Mike is truly the security guard from the first game then I don't see a way for sister location to take place after that, because isn't that when he starts going location to location? After he gets scooped?
funnily enough, i attempted to solve this a while back too and ended up placing it in a similar time frame. i will copy and paste what i wrote in my notes (bear in mind that i wrote this in a bit of a manic episode, because the placement of sister location was literally torturing me lol) first of all, it could not have happened before 1983, because before that, william afton has no known reason or motive to kill kids. therefore there would be no reason for him to design baby with a massive death claw inside her. we see that charlie emily's death is the first murder done by william afton, and that she goes on to possess the marionette. this was done in 1983- it is unknown whether it is before or after the bite of '83, however in terms of motive it is likely to happen after, possibly even in the same day, because it gives william afton a reason to be drunk and angry at henry for inadvertently causing the death of his son as the springlock mechanics were designed and made by him. we also know that the marionette's face changes (she gets tears on her cheeks) after charlie's death, which could potentially lead to william afton figuring out that somehow charlie's spirit possessed the marionette. this could possibly be the cause, combined with the possession of the five other animatronics (freddy, bonnie, chica, foxy & golden freddy) of william afton creating animatronics that are designed to kill children so that he could experiment with their remnant and figure out the secrets behind how and why the spirits possess the animatronics, as well as how he can use them for his own innovation and personal gain - hence the creation of circus baby's pizza world, where the animatronics were designed to count children, and when there was only one, they would go in for the kill so that afton could experiment with their remnant. the creation of baby as a killing machine explains then the placement of elizabeth's death, which would take place between the events of 1983 and sister location, which has to take place before 1987 because this is when fnaf 2 takes place (the first of the first three chronologically) if we are to assume that michael afton is the security guard in that game as well as fnaf 1 and 3. there is a small issue with this theory- timing. how did william became such a master of robotics that he was able to create his own company (afton robotics) and animatronics in such a small space of time (3-4 years, at most)? i suspect that william may have already been learning from henry about robotics and had some basic knowledge on how they work and how to make them, but left it up to henry as that was just kind of their roles in the partnership (william came up with ideas, henry created them), but then the events of 1983 led him to invest a lot of time in actually making them and creating his own designs that serve the functions that he want them to do (namely, killing, but also cool shit like dispensing ice cream as we see him boast about in the audio from sister location) instead of just knowing the basics or the theory behind it. afton robotics could have also served as a sort of workshop for william to experiment with robotics instead of being limited to the animatronics in the fazbear franchise. there is also the issue of the follow me minigame showing william afton dismantling the animatronics, because we know from candy cadet as well as the books that he used these parts of the animatronics to melt down their remnant, which was put into the funtime animatronics. this implies that sister location has to come after fnaf 2. however it could be argued that this minigame is simply a flashback to before the events of fnaf 2- it is very possible that multiple fazbear entertainment restaurants existed at the same time (fredbears and freddy fazbear's pizza) which explains how in 1983 a seemingly different freddy's pizza restaurant existed, since we see fredbears family diner as being the location in which the bite of '83 happened.
that freddy head is cognitive and the entire duration of the video he was threatening to frame me for tax evasion. so unfortunately i was unable to retain any information :(
Something a lot of folks keep forgetting to consider is the fact that the year the gameplay takes place and the year these pizzerias were open generally are vastly different years
you could place sister location between fnaf 2 and 1985 because of the mangle toy in the sisters room in fnaf 4 and the toy toy animatronics in another minigame in fnaf 4
I like the video but do have a different conclusion. I would agree that Mike would need to be an adult. I would disagree that William would need to be a member of Fazbear at the time. He would need to be before the board prior to Circus Baby Pizza World restaurant opening. Sister Location takes place at the rental facility - after the restaurant had closed. These two events could be seperated by many years. There was no mention that Jeremy was also fired for odour. The community has come to the conclusion of false names for this, but not mentioned in your video. And you wrote all communication were remote. Therefore who smelled him for his unprofessional odor write-up?
I love how you like comments months after you post a video, it really shows you care! :)) btw amazing theory, you really are the next matpat. 💗 best of luck to the growth of your channel. 💗
William knowing about remnant haunted objects doesn’t HAVE to be after the events of 1985. He could’ve learned about the effects from either Charlie’s possession or even his own son’s possession, then built the funtimes, then went out killing by hand.
Here’s one thing I feel is important: according to Michael, he’s been trying to follow his dad’s trail (the whole “father, it’s me, Michael”, and Michael saying he did what William asked him to). Michael would’ve been a young teen at the time, in the 1980’s, and he’s still alive and kicking by the time of when Sister Location takes place, since when he gets gutted and replaced, his body slowly rotted, which would take a few weeks at most, before Ennard leaves and leaves Michael still alive. Even if Sister Location came first, that doesn’t mean that the Funtimes were made recently before the game takes place. The Funtimes had been trapped down in the basement for a long time, I think the game just depicts a reunion, and then Michael trying to follow his dad’s trail, investigating. Michael went in a regular guy, and left a rotting mess with too many questions, so he decided to investigate his dad’s work and discovers the tragedies, before finding his dad again (or thinking he has), and declaring that he was gonna find William and make him pay.
The theory that I have always kept to is that FNAF SL happens RIGHT before FNAF 2, and after Mike gets scooped, he proceeds to start to investigate his father's work and FE - goes to work at 2's location. The fact that Ennard is inside him at this point doesn't contradict anything, since as "A room for one more" story implies, Mike quite possibly was able to control himself while Ennard was inside of his body. Then after each night in 2 a minigame from SL's custom night happens - where in the morning Mike goes back home n neighbours greet him. Then, after the sixth night, Ennard leaves Mike's body, and a rotting corpse comes back under a different name for the last night there.
I don't about you but the fourth closet played a big role in molten mci. Also, maybe The Happiest Day happens right after fnaf 6 bc all the souls are there: mci kids, Charlotte and cc. The golden Freddy that goes away in the happiest dat is actually cc which doesn't break moleten mci and kinda proves ucn being Willam's own personal hell. Also also: William created the funtimes to catch children to experiment whit remnant which means that he was alive then he went to fnaf 1 location to dismantle the animatronics, 1 per night, he gets springlocked and then Michael goes to sl and gest scooped. William doesn't have to be alive for sl to happen.
Missed facts: Circus Baby's Pizza World was established, then they went into the rental service (Stated **IN** the game). Mike could have gone into the Rental Service at any point before FNAF 6, possibly FNAF 3, based on the recognition of FNAF 6 William Afton. Sister Location can take place whenever, as long as FNAF 1 has already come to pass (Darklight Boiler level in VR)
I think molten MCI is such a popular theory because people think that the FNaF 6 fire was the only time spirits could have been freed. I’m pretty sure that the og spirits were freed separately. I think there are two separate portions of where Sister Location takes place. There’s when did Afton build the location and all that, which I think is early on (and perhaps he harvested some agony from the FNaF 1 animatronics to put in the SL animatronics, which wouldn’t mess with the souls issues), and when does Michael enter SL. I also am not fully convinced that Michael is who we play as in FNaF 2.
That does make sense if it was set close to fnaf 2 as the design of the fun times look similar to the toy animatronics. Especially seems to be a weird coincidence how mangle looks very similar to funtime foxy raver then unwithered foxy. Heck maybe funtime foxy way taken and recycled for mangle and that could explain why mangle was easy to take apart and put back together since the funtimes could open their bodies. And would explain mangle for the bite of 87 as there was 1 person in that room and the rest of the animatronics wouldn't kill you but they would stuff you in a suit. Of course tehre are some problems like how the endoskelton is much different, tho the endoskeleton is different for the withereds and the og animatronics.
The scooper in SL applies remnant with every swing. Every time one of the Funtime characters is opened by it for maintenance, they get a dose of remnant. Remnant itself made of the OG endoskeletons. It's an automated process, all William Afton had to do was gather the endos and feed them into a machine. He probably did that on night 5 of follow me as the empty character costumes lay outside the door of safe room in follow me at that time. He was later spring locked by the fifth MCI victim who being WITHOUT a real body may actually have projected themself 5 times to terrify Afton. The phantoms that the lights in fnaf 3's good ending are seemingly referring to are most likely agony constructs of this singular ghost. Afton was brought down by a singular character no matter which fnaf universe you look at. Candy cadets stories refer more to Henry's overall plan and the pieces there of. The girl with the keys is Charlotte, her fused key was happiest day. The man with the orphans was Henry and the burglar William Afton, the break in was the MCI and the coffin parts and service. The knock on the door was a reference to police investigation carried out after the MCI. The boy with the snake is at a guess most likely Mike. The snake is agony and the kittens are the souls he saves. Mike also gets remnant in SL so the weird Frankenstein y amalgam kitten could be a reference to his current state. How he is a tangled mass of remnant and flesh. But these are just my guesses.
I dont see SL being after 1983 for multiple reason and I dont agree on Afton even being correlate with Fazbear Enterateniment as in the first place for me SL was before FNAF 2 or still in that time around the same years and in that case, as in 1983 there wasnt foxy ecc already Afton was probably the one that actually created the first design. There is a big possibility that Fazbear enterateniment did some thing to get the design rather than Afton being still with Fazbear Enterateniment as itself Sister location ecc arent part of Fazbear enterateniment and you can argue it by using TFC as Sister location is part of Afton Robotics in it
I figured the beginning of SL dialog with William talking about design choices was William with the police while they were looking for the missing children and that this was to give us a place in the timeline of where this took place. I assumed it was the police suspecting him after Elizabeth's death after the MCI to see if he's connected while he was trying to take the opportunity to frame Henry or someone else. Im sure there are elements and details Im forgetting but Im just sharing my initial interpretation.
Does Mike have to be 18 years old to work at Sister Location? In America you only have to be 16 years old to work for a company NOT owned by your family/parents. If your Parents are the owner of the company, there are sometimes exceptions to work even younger (which doesn't so much relate to SL perhaps, but generally Mike could have been a nightguard, working a summer job, while still attending highschool for any of the games). Part of the reason I wonder if Mike is younger is he seems to be in his family home after work from SL; the furnishing is all from the 1960s/1970s, which is older then Mike. In Midnight Motorist we see a figure watching tv at a home that isn't "theirs" (it's the orange guy's house), but by SL we see Mike, alone, uninterrupted eating popcorn for dinner watching a soap after work. I seriously wonder if Afton got Springlocked and Mike was still living at home and just father just... Stops coming home one day. And instead of going to look for him, Mike takes the job in the bunker his father had previously told him to go do. Only after SL, in that last cut scene with nothing else to do it's the Mike decides it's time to figure out why his father never came home.
Okay but to be fair not a single soul being Mike in for an interview is basically on brand for Fazbear Entertainment. It took them to like murder spree number 3 to actually care about the well-being of children. Or at least seem like they do.
We don’t have any reason to believe that Circus Baby’s Pizza opening and the events of FNAF 5 happen at the same time. The pizzeria could have opened up (for one day) much earlier
The only problem is that in fnaf 6 Henry mentioned that William changed his creations to do things they weren't meant to do so that could mean the fun times. And if William is modifying them to help with his research of remnant due to the puppet changing then unless bite of 83 happen William would have no reason to ruin Henry's family picture
Its so hard for me to think they are after fnaf 1 just based on the sophistication of the anamatronic designs. They have far more advanced technology than in fanf 1
It takes a while for dead bodies to decompose (weeks to years depending on factors) so Fabear entertainment wouldn't have known, but dead bodies do get a bad smell quick.
What if the fnaf 3 minigame takes place before fnaf 2, and what were believed to be the original animatronics were actually the withered. Think about it: We were never told why the withered animatronics were broken, but they tried to repair them. We know that they are from ,,the previous" location, which can very easy be the fnaf 1 location, where they were eventualy reused after 1987 and the same location from the fnaf 3 minigames. Also in the minigame freddy has a button under his bowtie, which is not seen in the fnaf 1 model, but in the withered model. Basically, afton destroyed the animatronics before fnaf 2 and got springtrapped, they were rebuilt by the company but eventually abandoned bekause of how they looked.
I like the theory but when it comes to explaining mike getting fired for odor i have another theory than just him being a walking corpse and that's him tampering the animatronics and the odors of the animatronics getting on him as a result.
So heres my thing, Sister location is a mess in the timeline, but Circus Baby Pizza world was 100% 1983-1985 as Acton was still with Fazbear, and he had Freddy, Foxy and Bonnie there plus a Springlock suit, Bunker was pre-Fredbear Family Dinner so storage was good, so it being 1985/86 makes sense, but with some other hints I feel like there a reason why Micheal could be in sister location in the year 2000, Yes, reason all comes down to the more reason games and more importantly I think the Idea of FNAF 3 being in 2023 is no longer true believing in could happen in 2015 30 years after the first Freddy's close.(Forgot to say how, Mike in the Security Logbook has some major hints that get over look and Reel Value is the one that tells you what year Mike wrote the Red Text and because the book was burnt it was around the FNAF 3 fire but was saved, someone else on reddit and in a video did the numbers and got 2015 if FNAF 1 happens 1992 base on better price valuing now knowing the State FNAF take place in and likely the place closed still in 1993 due to Christmas season being worth keeping the place open until January) But also the movie might hint the spring locking year is 2000 as it take place that year and similar timeframe in the graphic novels, also the Idea that Vanessa from the game was William daughter mean he was alive by 1997 as that Vanessa birth year as hinted in AR, and a good reason for Mike to be sent to the location is to kill him, and so there be a clean easy win for his Divorce thats in Vanessa backstory, sue it could been Elizabeth story being told to her but the fact that the one therapist knew Vanessa Mom means that story is true. So Sister Location events are flexible as they been trap for years without a good date on how long, we just know it can be from 1985-2014 which is a large Gap, new info to clarified the events be better. Also for Jeremy bing Cassie Dad but also Bonnie Bully it fits better for FNAF 3 to be 2015 so SB be in 2023-2027ish and him being early 50s sounds better. Also AR happen in 2020 thanks to the emails so Help Wanted 1 was 2019 and FNAF Pizza Sim was 2017.
You forgot about dark spring trap because that is in sister Location meaning he was already spring locked, maybe its just Scott throwing us off with a fake ending but but I’m not sure
All of the evidence for SL being early only really works for Circus Baby's Pizza World. That's what opened after Freddy's closed and that's when the Funtimes were designed. I'm fine with that, but that doesn't mean that Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rentals was open then, or the gameplay for that matter.
i like to think that the funtimes are versions of the afton siblings and mrs afton. FT Foxy is like mikey, ft freddy and bon bon are like evan and physic friend fredbear, baby is well elizabeth, and ballora is mrs afton
Okay but here's the thing say the first thing that happened in the timeline was the missing children incident that was the beginning of it all right now if we use that as a base we can see that that was the beginning of it all now if we continue the story that means the first missing incident that happened in part 1 but it happened in the five nights at Freddy's 1 that would mean sister location had already happened that would mean the events of sister location working at five nights at Freddy's 1 and then he went on to work at five nights at Freddy's 2 but here's the thing I believe personally when he got scooped in sister location key experience the dream inducing nightmare animatronics and as he experienced that in after concluded he woke up and that's how he became a walking corpse I believe with the nightmare animatronic I think that's my only personal theory on it basically what I'm saying is that the first thing that had happened to all protagonist was the fact that he got scooped but the events that happened in the past happened in the past pretty obvious when you think about it if I'm thinking that's correctlythe Funtime animatronics were created somewhere after the events in the second location I believe meaning after the toy animatronics well that's the way I think of it anyway maybe there is something there I'm not sure
The problem with SL is the environment's creation VS what goes on in the gameplay. Most of the gameplay is a mix of flashbacks and modern activities. The Scooper couldn't exist pre fnaf 1 as it's true purpose couldn't be fulfilled.(See the fnaf 6 blueprint for the scooper.) The funtimes existed before hand but were glitchy messes like Baby. They needed what the scooper gave them to be viable to pass off to fazbear entertainment. They had barely any functionality pre-remnant. The design choices thing is a weak conundrum as provably ONLY Circus Baby's are openly questioned. Meaning funtime Freddy, Foxy and Ballora were OKd by this point. But this happens BEFORE Mike is sent down there. Mike is sent down there post 'follow me' mini games. This places SL between Fnaf 1 and 3. As 2 has William lending tech to Henry to build the toys, so he can't build the funtime characters in that window as his parts are being given to the toys to allow Afton to cheat their facial recognition and break into the restaurant. Phone guy specifically mentions the facial recognition tampering, something ONLY a technician like Afton could do.
I simply think that Sister Location's time is way too futuristic to be in the 1990s. It doesn't *feel* like it's in the 90s. Not one bit. But it's ALSO not really recent, like in 2020, for example. It's more like.. possibly the late 2000's or a few years before 2010. This is also when technology really became more advanced, such as iPhones, and more. This means that Dave (Evan/C.C.) has already died (1983), and this time is when Elizabeth dies, and Michael gets scooped.
The earliest time that baby baby shows up is 1970 we got confirmation of that in ruin so that means Fred Bear had to be a little bit after so 83 and that means Michael could totally still be an adult when he sees baby again because Henry was the one who created baby that means a fun times were introduced a little bit after and they meet up in the late 70's Henry and William so the fun times are probably introduced sometime between 85 and 87 because the building where the fun times are kept are kept under Williams house fun times after 83 to keep his son Michael in the house after his brother's death so that means Elizabeth had to go first so so if baby came in the seventies Elizabeth would have been able to be killed then her brother CC and then Michael would be able to be murdered still be able to come back
But then how would it explain the teeth in fredbear stomach in FNAF 4 if it was the crying child when he died in 1983? How could sister location occur without figuring out that plothole?
*What do YOU THINK? Where is it PLACED in the TIMELINE?*
I think 2023 after Williams death, and Elizabeth was in circus baby since 1978(maybe idk) and then Michael was a teenager like you said but now he might be in his late 40s or something
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I think the same thing as you
I agree with basically everything here, but one thing to note about SL is that there was initially a Circus Baby’s party world and the animatronics weren’t being rented out to different places till after Elizabeth went missing and Circus Baby’s closed. We can assume Circus Baby’s was closed after only one day since Circus Baby says she was only in stage for a single day
Sister location takes place before fredbear’s
Figuring out when Mike turned 18 might not be as necessary as you think. In Utah where most if not all of the story takes place child labor laws only apply to kids under 16. Fazbear Entertainment is definitely sketchy enough to hire a teenager for a dangerous job.
Good point
I personally like the idea he's around 14/15 in 1983, and 18/19 in 1987, with maybe another couple years for SL, being maybe 21-24, adult enough to highly resemble how William looked in the 80's
It's also entirely possible that Fazbear Entertainment simply didn't know Mike was a corpse.
I agree
or didn’t care!
Would he smell tho
Considering he was abysmally smelly and rotting, i dont know how this could be the case. Then again there is that comic where the managers just thought he was really into the horror/halloween vibes
@@JcdHowuH-ce5lw he's a rotting corpse. We have a bodily chemical in our brain and blood that causes the decomposing process of the dead and gives off the odor of rotten cabbage.
I agree with basically everything here, but one thing to note about SL is that there was initially a Circus Baby’s party world and the animatronics weren’t being rented out to different places till after Elizabeth went missing and Circus Baby’s closed. We can assume Circus Baby’s was closed after only one day since Circus Baby says she was only in stage for a single day.
That said it’s possible that the events in Sister Location happened a week prior to Fnaf 2, as Sister Location Entertainment and Rental was still working even after the closure of Circus Baby World. Either that or Fazbear took custody of William’s business and around 1992 the events of Sister Location played out.
I do think Mike was smelly because he was messing with the animatronics.
For a long time I thought Mike had “possessed his own corpse” but then I found out that in the books remnant has some pretty extreme healing powers.
The FNAF 6 blueprints say there is always remnant on the scoop.
I think once Enard left Mike gradually recovered.
Maybe he was never fully normal again but he stopped rotting and healed at least to some extent.
That’s how he kept getting jobs he looked and probably smelled mostly normal.
This doesn’t really affect where Sister Location fits in the timeline. It just means Mike can be actively doing stuff and passing as normal after Sister Location.
Interesting
I never understood why everyone thinks mike smells because he was rotten
Despite the fact mike was messing with robots who smell like blood and mucus
@@BucketIHead exactly!
I used to work in a laboratory and I can tell you nothing smells worse than a biohazard bin full of spoiled blood samples.
The blueprints do not say there's always remnant on it lol.
@@StephDilimia I don't see why there wouldn't be, especially after having been recently used on Ballora, I would assume that Ennard made sure of it seeing as it they say "You won't die", implying that mike was, potentially, 'alive' still
Glamrock Freddy's eyes moving and changing colours was so distracting for me and my ADHD. Don't worry I still heard everything being said, I just kept having my eyes drawn to him. Lol
as someone else with adhd i had the same thing happen. as im typing this the eyes are greenish yellow
Me too
My brain never wouldve picked it up if I didnt read this comment 😭😂
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Same, my adhd was kicking off. Wondering where I could get one of those.
This guys voice sounds SO FAMILIAR! It's on the tip of my tongue...
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We all know deep down the “odor” is just talking about the player stinking after beating the game
If you start taking the possibility of the sister location animatronics not being possessed into consideration, everything fits perfectly, and with the recurrent "Rogue AI" theme of stuff, it wouldn't surprise me if they are the origin of the mimic software
With the release of the Secret of the Mimic Trailer coming out, we see it is in 1979. I think the mimic was the original, and after the events of 1979 Henry shelved the idea. William then builds the funtimes using the original program as its base.
Allow me to ask... Why is Roxy bald?
Great question!
it's because he doesn't wanna take the time and get the hair for roxy
@@colechristie6658 fair enough ig
And also he’s gonna have to make holes for the hair to go in the acutal head
@@colechristie6658 loving that you came back after two weeks to complete the comment. I'm already your fan.
TL:DR - The Funtimes do not need to be built specifically for Remnant experiments.
There's something that I don't think I've seen anyone put out there for why the Funtimes were built to kidnap and/or kill children: William Afton is a serial killer, not JUST a scientist looking into Remnant and immortality. The only reason he knows about Remnant is because he is a serial killer. The Funtimes don't HAVE to be built SPECIFICALLY for capturing children to experiment with Remnant. He could have created the Funtimes as another way to continue his killing spree and, after finding out that Remnant exists, repurposed the kids being contained in order to get more Remnant. Nobody has talked about this and it would also fit Elizabeth Afton being killed before the Crying Child, which would in turn justify the line, "Remember what you saw?" There is a counterpoint that serial killers have a preferred method of dealing with their victims (a calling card or significant thing) which people would say William's is his knife, but the Funtimes CAPTURE, not kill kids, so he would still be able to kill them with his knife later when he releases them from the Funtimes.
Just figured I should put that out there since I don't recall anyone mentioning this.
If Funtimes only capture kids and not kill them, why Elizabeth die? William is a killer, but he care about her. We know this because William told Elizabeth to not play with Baby. Funtimes must kill children, it doesn't make sense otherwise.
@@Darkrin True. I didn't really think about the death of Elizabeth. But that's our ONLY known death to the Funtimes. Who's to say that everything went right with that death? This is getting into speculation with no evidence, I'll admit that, but what if there was a mistake made with Circus Baby? She was meant to capture and hold kids alive. but accidentally killed the one kid she activated that feature for? Again, there's zero evidence to support that. but I would like to throw some ideas at the wall.
Because it's bullshit, bitevictim Is the first and always Has been and remember this Line "Whats seen in the shadows Is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child"
I'd like to add that the Sister Location bunker is NOT the same as Circus Baby's Pizza World- which I believe is what HandUnit is referring to when it says "the stage was set for another contender in children's entertainment". I personally believe that Circus Baby's Pizza World opened after the OG Freddy Fazbear's pizza closed (the one before the grand reopening in FNAF 2) due to foul odor from the animatronics. It make sense that after Elizabeth got scooped and Circus Baby's never opened, that Afton would repurpose the animatronics and rent them out; creating Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental
Great video! I actually went ahead and played through all the games and took notes of lore details as I did and basically almost everything you said perfectly adds up. But there is one tiny thing I’d like to add. Michael actually didn’t look like a rotting corpse when he got the job for the 87 and the 90s pizzerias. Remnant can actually regenerate the person it’s attached too. Which is why Michael is able to walk around despite us organs and probably his skeleton being ripped out. His insides regenerated and as time goes on his skin begins to regenerate as well. This also explains why Williams corpse looks different each game. The only reason the regeneration doesn’t fully work in his case is because of the springlock suit stopping the regeneration process. This is why his corpse look more human like in fnaf 6 since he no longer has the springlocks in him and can start regenerating.
10:26 I mean, if no one else applied for the job, he's a nightguard anyway, it isn't like someone was going to have contact with him
It is a strong theory. Tho you say after the closing of freddy fazbear, circus baby was a thing. But that could be circus baby pizza world. Not sister location itself. So it could set years after the closing of freddy's
Agreed
Tbf, it's not specified if the 'after a Freddie's place closed' Is the opening of circus babys pizza world or entertainment and rentals
What’s interesting is that when FNAF 3 got updated, whether or not you do the requirements to get the good ending, the final cutscene after William gets springlocked is still the same.
The idea that William is part of the business, it makes you wonder if William started off with Afton Robotics?
I would love if we had an official FNAF game exploring the HQ of Fazbear Entertainment. That would be cool.
P.s. Didn’t think you’d do a face reveal. I pictured you’d do it when you reached a certain amount of subscribers. Still, glad to see your uploads. 😀👍
My face has been revealed on the Shadows channel, so didnt think it was a huge secret ;) and really want to build that connection with the people watching! I love that people tune into the videos and just want to make it more enjoyable for them ;)
Ah.
Great video and im sorry if this comes off as nitpicky but there are a few pieces of evidence that kinda mess up the timeline placement you made and i just wanna point them out. 1st one is that when circus baby and the funtimes werent made for the rental service but for the pizzaria named Circus baby pizza world and from the trailer and baby's own words it is heavily implied that some time has passed between the pizzaria closing and the rental service opening. When baby talks about her pizzaria she calls it her "Old pizzaria" and in the trailer it says "Deep below ground where memories sleep and secrets dont keep" To me that implies they have been locked up underground for quite some time.
the 2nd part is about the springlock suit. I dont think the springlock suit can be used as evidence that sister location takes place before the ban of springlock suits. My reason is that when baby talks about the springlock she says that "It came from my old pizzaria, I dont think it was ever used.. atleast not the way it was meant to be used. too dangerous" This to me implies that the springlock suit was never made or used to be worn my staff but was possibly made for killing. and since its william afton who made it that makes sense. He couldve made it in secret without fazbear entertainment knowing. The fact baby calls out that it was never used the way it was meant to be used sounds like it was used for killing kids or any other kind of experiments. Anyways thats all Sorry if this sounds nerdy i hope this helped a bit
Sister location has a few major events that don't need to be close to each other. Elizabeth getting eaten is first and could be years before anything else. Michael working the week, and then his freedom from Ennerd could have taken days if not weeks.
The foxy grid?
That was the one matpat simply couldnt crack at all.
The *Special* Delivery fact you bring up as evidence is most likely just in reference to springlocks, but these can't really be relied on as they were written by Illumix as placeholders, hence why they were never implemented into the game.
i never thought so much about the association between sl and fazbears. but it really seems to put it before 1987 because william gets droped from the company. good point
I think the books were trying to tell us that If Henry's grief over losing Charlie could cause him to infuse the Ella doll with Agony That ANY animatronic William touches is going to be infected with agony. So the funtim3s may very well just be running off of that.
The Freddy head randomly blinking sometimes freaked me out lmao
1:57 nno, they fuse together after sister location and it's not due to the fnaf 6 fire
I would place sister location before FNaF 2 because in the night one phone call in FNaF 2 he says
Welcome to your new summer job at the new and improved Freddy fazbears pizza
So this means that there was another pizzeria before FNaF 2 so I think sister location is between that old restaurant and FNaF 2
I already had already thought of sl in 1986 glad my point has some validaty
Something that stumped me and probably MatPat was the issue of Balloon Boy. We thought Circus Baby’s Pizza HAD to predate at least the FNAF 2 location, but if we are hinting at a 70’s entity that was circus themed and predates Fredbear’s Family Diner, none of that matters anymore
Nice, so what i already believed. I watched a video that placed SL post fnaf 1, assuming Michael's odor was just because he's a "stinky man", not a rotten corpse yet, and i was like "man, i don't like to think Mikey is there to _help_ his father all along. I like to think he realized earlier and spent _multiple_ decades in search for him, not just 30 years".
This video here reinforces my belief of how the timeline works. Nice.
I think candy cadets story makes perfect sense. Each story is essentially about 5 things becoming 1, exactly like the funtime animatronics with the kids souls.
my personal theory to help the placement of sister location is that originally they were made with the intentions to use them to protect kids or for ft. freddy cake and pinatas. and then used them to capture kids during the renting out, after the deaths of elizabeth charlie and the crying child. with sister location happening something after the closure of a freddy's in 1985-1986 due to the mci
I swear this guy is gonna be matpat junior and take over game theory
We ARE AIMING FOR IT!
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With help wanted 2 and into the pit, everything is pointing to sister location being a very early part of the timeline which bothers me because of that line hand unit says. I think the design for circus baby and a lot of the sister location character were taken or inspired by fall fest. That’s why we keep seeing them being brought up so early into the timeline, their characters technically existed in mascot suits and people in costume years before. Don’t ask me how Carine, an intelligent, “human” like animatronic could exist back then cause i have no idea.
There's a difference between when Circus Baby's Pizza World opened and shut, and when sister location happens at CB Entertainment & Rentals. While I agree pizza world most likely opens between 85 and 87, the actual events of sister location could happen much later, as it is unknown how long E&R was open for. William could've been cut from the company shortly after he started E&R, causing him to loose access to the Funtime animatronics, which would explain why he went back to manually killing in FNAF 2, and why he asked Michael to go down there as he himself was on a company blacklist. Additionally, at the end of Mike's speech in SL, he says to William he's "going to come find you" implying that William has been missing for some time. This could very likely be because he has already been springlocked by the time of SL, meaning it would be after FNAF 1. The odour stated in the pink slips in FNAF 1 and 2 is most likely referring to how when mike tampered with the animatronics, the smell of dead children likely rubbed off on him, causing him to smell.
In Felix the Shark, even though it’s noncanon it mentions a guy named Mike who look’s about college age and knows a lot about Fazbear Entertainment. I think maybe the remnant helped him regrow his skin
They already explained that the souls can be at rest but the remnant and agony remains.
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I wouldve agreed with this video, keg would, worldve, you see, on one of the jewer books which is speciufcally described to happen within the ganes canon (storyline) we get tokd that the sister location bunker was open for a minimum of 2 years, and you basically confirmed that it opened between 1985-1987, so therefore sister location itself must happen in 1995-1997
i think u forgot to add in the most important detail of the timeline itself
time travel ball pits
If Mike is truly the security guard from the first game then I don't see a way for sister location to take place after that, because isn't that when he starts going location to location? After he gets scooped?
funnily enough, i attempted to solve this a while back too and ended up placing it in a similar time frame. i will copy and paste what i wrote in my notes (bear in mind that i wrote this in a bit of a manic episode, because the placement of sister location was literally torturing me lol)
first of all, it could not have happened before 1983, because before that, william afton has no known reason or motive to kill kids. therefore there would be no reason for him to design baby with a massive death claw inside her.
we see that charlie emily's death is the first murder done by william afton, and that she goes on to possess the marionette. this was done in 1983- it is unknown whether it is before or after the bite of '83, however in terms of motive it is likely to happen after, possibly even in the same day, because it gives william afton a reason to be drunk and angry at henry for inadvertently causing the death of his son as the springlock mechanics were designed and made by him.
we also know that the marionette's face changes (she gets tears on her cheeks) after charlie's death, which could potentially lead to william afton figuring out that somehow charlie's spirit possessed the marionette. this could possibly be the cause, combined with the possession of the five other animatronics (freddy, bonnie, chica, foxy & golden freddy) of william afton creating animatronics that are designed to kill children so that he could experiment with their remnant and figure out the secrets behind how and why the spirits possess the animatronics, as well as how he can use them for his own innovation and personal gain - hence the creation of circus baby's pizza world, where the animatronics were designed to count children, and when there was only one, they would go in for the kill so that afton could experiment with their remnant.
the creation of baby as a killing machine explains then the placement of elizabeth's death, which would take place between the events of 1983 and sister location, which has to take place before 1987 because this is when fnaf 2 takes place (the first of the first three chronologically) if we are to assume that michael afton is the security guard in that game as well as fnaf 1 and 3.
there is a small issue with this theory- timing. how did william became such a master of robotics that he was able to create his own company (afton robotics) and animatronics in such a small space of time (3-4 years, at most)? i suspect that william may have already been learning from henry about robotics and had some basic knowledge on how they work and how to make them, but left it up to henry as that was just kind of their roles in the partnership (william came up with ideas, henry created them), but then the events of 1983 led him to invest a lot of time in actually making them and creating his own designs that serve the functions that he want them to do (namely, killing, but also cool shit like dispensing ice cream as we see him boast about in the audio from sister location) instead of just knowing the basics or the theory behind it. afton robotics could have also served as a sort of workshop for william to experiment with robotics instead of being limited to the animatronics in the fazbear franchise.
there is also the issue of the follow me minigame showing william afton dismantling the animatronics, because we know from candy cadet as well as the books that he used these parts of the animatronics to melt down their remnant, which was put into the funtime animatronics. this implies that sister location has to come after fnaf 2. however it could be argued that this minigame is simply a flashback to before the events of fnaf 2- it is very possible that multiple fazbear entertainment restaurants existed at the same time (fredbears and freddy fazbear's pizza) which explains how in 1983 a seemingly different freddy's pizza restaurant existed, since we see fredbears family diner as being the location in which the bite of '83 happened.
that freddy head is cognitive and the entire duration of the video he was threatening to frame me for tax evasion. so unfortunately i was unable to retain any information :(
Excellent video. Some great evidence there, it definitely helps put Sister Location in context for timeline purposes. Nice job.
Thank you!
Something a lot of folks keep forgetting to consider is the fact that the year the gameplay takes place and the year these pizzerias were open generally are vastly different years
you could place sister location between fnaf 2 and 1985 because of the mangle toy in the sisters room in fnaf 4 and the toy toy animatronics in another minigame in fnaf 4
1983, xscuse me
4:29 I would like to remind you that one is missing, as balloon boy was there instead of foxy.
I like the video but do have a different conclusion. I would agree that Mike would need to be an adult. I would disagree that William would need to be a member of Fazbear at the time. He would need to be before the board prior to Circus Baby Pizza World restaurant opening. Sister Location takes place at the rental facility - after the restaurant had closed. These two events could be seperated by many years. There was no mention that Jeremy was also fired for odour. The community has come to the conclusion of false names for this, but not mentioned in your video. And you wrote all communication were remote. Therefore who smelled him for his unprofessional odor write-up?
I just love the digimon clock, little Patamon is so cute
I love how you like comments months after you post a video, it really shows you care! :)) btw amazing theory, you really are the next matpat. 💗 best of luck to the growth of your channel. 💗
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William knowing about remnant haunted objects doesn’t HAVE to be after the events of 1985. He could’ve learned about the effects from either Charlie’s possession or even his own son’s possession, then built the funtimes, then went out killing by hand.
Here’s one thing I feel is important: according to Michael, he’s been trying to follow his dad’s trail (the whole “father, it’s me, Michael”, and Michael saying he did what William asked him to). Michael would’ve been a young teen at the time, in the 1980’s, and he’s still alive and kicking by the time of when Sister Location takes place, since when he gets gutted and replaced, his body slowly rotted, which would take a few weeks at most, before Ennard leaves and leaves Michael still alive. Even if Sister Location came first, that doesn’t mean that the Funtimes were made recently before the game takes place. The Funtimes had been trapped down in the basement for a long time, I think the game just depicts a reunion, and then Michael trying to follow his dad’s trail, investigating. Michael went in a regular guy, and left a rotting mess with too many questions, so he decided to investigate his dad’s work and discovers the tragedies, before finding his dad again (or thinking he has), and declaring that he was gonna find William and make him pay.
The theory that I have always kept to is that FNAF SL happens RIGHT before FNAF 2, and after Mike gets scooped, he proceeds to start to investigate his father's work and FE - goes to work at 2's location. The fact that Ennard is inside him at this point doesn't contradict anything, since as "A room for one more" story implies, Mike quite possibly was able to control himself while Ennard was inside of his body. Then after each night in 2 a minigame from SL's custom night happens - where in the morning Mike goes back home n neighbours greet him. Then, after the sixth night, Ennard leaves Mike's body, and a rotting corpse comes back under a different name for the last night there.
I don't about you but the fourth closet played a big role in molten mci.
Also, maybe The Happiest Day happens right after fnaf 6 bc all the souls are there: mci kids, Charlotte and cc. The golden Freddy that goes away in the happiest dat is actually cc which doesn't break moleten mci and kinda proves ucn being Willam's own personal hell.
Also also: William created the funtimes to catch children to experiment whit remnant which means that he was alive then he went to fnaf 1 location to dismantle the animatronics, 1 per night, he gets springlocked and then Michael goes to sl and gest scooped. William doesn't have to be alive for sl to happen.
Missed facts: Circus Baby's Pizza World was established, then they went into the rental service (Stated **IN** the game). Mike could have gone into the Rental Service at any point before FNAF 6, possibly FNAF 3, based on the recognition of FNAF 6 William Afton. Sister Location can take place whenever, as long as FNAF 1 has already come to pass (Darklight Boiler level in VR)
This is a pretty solid theory video.
what is the ost that plays in the background?
Watch your 6 / venta black
Hey twisty! Could you please do a theory on the Springtrap to Scraptrap change of suits. Also nice face reveal!
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Thanks for considering it, I am a huge fan of your work.@@TwistedAnimatronic
I think molten MCI is such a popular theory because people think that the FNaF 6 fire was the only time spirits could have been freed. I’m pretty sure that the og spirits were freed separately.
I think there are two separate portions of where Sister Location takes place. There’s when did Afton build the location and all that, which I think is early on (and perhaps he harvested some agony from the FNaF 1 animatronics to put in the SL animatronics, which wouldn’t mess with the souls issues), and when does Michael enter SL. I also am not fully convinced that Michael is who we play as in FNaF 2.
what if the fusing souls in the funtimes isn't referring to the mci but instead it's referring to the kids the funtimes killed
More evidence for molten mci in Help Wanted there is broken fnaf 1 endoskeleton parts in a furnace in one of three vent repair levels
That does make sense if it was set close to fnaf 2 as the design of the fun times look similar to the toy animatronics. Especially seems to be a weird coincidence how mangle looks very similar to funtime foxy raver then unwithered foxy. Heck maybe funtime foxy way taken and recycled for mangle and that could explain why mangle was easy to take apart and put back together since the funtimes could open their bodies. And would explain mangle for the bite of 87 as there was 1 person in that room and the rest of the animatronics wouldn't kill you but they would stuff you in a suit. Of course tehre are some problems like how the endoskelton is much different, tho the endoskeleton is different for the withereds and the og animatronics.
What's the name of the channel that has all these animated cutscenes were seeing in these video.
Check the description
The scooper in SL applies remnant with every swing. Every time one of the Funtime characters is opened by it for maintenance, they get a dose of remnant. Remnant itself made of the OG endoskeletons. It's an automated process, all William Afton had to do was gather the endos and feed them into a machine. He probably did that on night 5 of follow me as the empty character costumes lay outside the door of safe room in follow me at that time. He was later spring locked by the fifth MCI victim who being WITHOUT a real body may actually have projected themself 5 times to terrify Afton. The phantoms that the lights in fnaf 3's good ending are seemingly referring to are most likely agony constructs of this singular ghost. Afton was brought down by a singular character no matter which fnaf universe you look at. Candy cadets stories refer more to Henry's overall plan and the pieces there of. The girl with the keys is Charlotte, her fused key was happiest day. The man with the orphans was Henry and the burglar William Afton, the break in was the MCI and the coffin parts and service. The knock on the door was a reference to police investigation carried out after the MCI. The boy with the snake is at a guess most likely Mike. The snake is agony and the kittens are the souls he saves. Mike also gets remnant in SL so the weird Frankenstein y amalgam kitten could be a reference to his current state. How he is a tangled mass of remnant and flesh. But these are just my guesses.
I’m shocked he didn’t mention fnaf 4 at all, yeah it’s about nightmares but in sister locations secret room there’s cameras showing fnaf 4’s room.
I dont see SL being after 1983 for multiple reason and I dont agree on Afton even being correlate with Fazbear Enterateniment as in the first place for me SL was before FNAF 2 or still in that time around the same years and in that case, as in 1983 there wasnt foxy ecc already Afton was probably the one that actually created the first design. There is a big possibility that Fazbear enterateniment did some thing to get the design rather than Afton being still with Fazbear Enterateniment as itself Sister location ecc arent part of Fazbear enterateniment and you can argue it by using TFC as Sister location is part of Afton Robotics in it
I figured the beginning of SL dialog with William talking about design choices was William with the police while they were looking for the missing children and that this was to give us a place in the timeline of where this took place. I assumed it was the police suspecting him after Elizabeth's death after the MCI to see if he's connected while he was trying to take the opportunity to frame Henry or someone else. Im sure there are elements and details Im forgetting but Im just sharing my initial interpretation.
great to see someone new give there shot on the lore!
or at least someone ive never seen before!
Thank you :)
Does Mike have to be 18 years old to work at Sister Location? In America you only have to be 16 years old to work for a company NOT owned by your family/parents. If your Parents are the owner of the company, there are sometimes exceptions to work even younger (which doesn't so much relate to SL perhaps, but generally Mike could have been a nightguard, working a summer job, while still attending highschool for any of the games).
Part of the reason I wonder if Mike is younger is he seems to be in his family home after work from SL; the furnishing is all from the 1960s/1970s, which is older then Mike. In Midnight Motorist we see a figure watching tv at a home that isn't "theirs" (it's the orange guy's house), but by SL we see Mike, alone, uninterrupted eating popcorn for dinner watching a soap after work. I seriously wonder if Afton got Springlocked and Mike was still living at home and just father just... Stops coming home one day. And instead of going to look for him, Mike takes the job in the bunker his father had previously told him to go do. Only after SL, in that last cut scene with nothing else to do it's the Mike decides it's time to figure out why his father never came home.
who knows maybe in fnaf 1 and 2, Mike just never took a bath or some reason, maybe he ran out of water so he couldn't clean himself
smoking and watching this at 3am and saw freddy’s eyes blink and change colors that shit made me tweak 😂😭 great video thank you 🩷
Okay but to be fair not a single soul being Mike in for an interview is basically on brand for Fazbear Entertainment. It took them to like murder spree number 3 to actually care about the well-being of children. Or at least seem like they do.
Fredbears Singing show - Fallfest - Fredbears Family Diner - og freddy fazbear's - Circus Baby's pizza world - fnaf 2 - fnaf 1 - fnaf SL - fnaf 3 - pizza simulator - Rouge indy developer games - Fnaf VR - Fnaf AR - Security Breach - Fnaf VR 2 - Ruin
We don’t have any reason to believe that Circus Baby’s Pizza opening and the events of FNAF 5 happen at the same time. The pizzeria could have opened up (for one day) much earlier
The only problem is that in fnaf 6 Henry mentioned that William changed his creations to do things they weren't meant to do so that could mean the fun times. And if William is modifying them to help with his research of remnant due to the puppet changing then unless bite of 83 happen William would have no reason to ruin Henry's family picture
Its so hard for me to think they are after fnaf 1 just based on the sophistication of the anamatronic designs. They have far more advanced technology than in fanf 1
It takes a while for dead bodies to decompose (weeks to years depending on factors) so Fabear entertainment wouldn't have known, but dead bodies do get a bad smell quick.
What if the fnaf 3 minigame takes place before fnaf 2, and what were believed to be the original animatronics were actually the withered. Think about it: We were never told why the withered animatronics were broken, but they tried to repair them. We know that they are from ,,the previous" location, which can very easy be the fnaf 1 location, where they were eventualy reused after 1987 and the same location from the fnaf 3 minigames. Also in the minigame freddy has a button under his bowtie, which is not seen in the fnaf 1 model, but in the withered model. Basically, afton destroyed the animatronics before fnaf 2 and got springtrapped, they were rebuilt by the company but eventually abandoned bekause of how they looked.
Circus Baby's Pizza World is created before FnAF 1
Events of our gameplay happens after FNaF 1
Love Freddy's wonky eyes in the video
There is also a functional springlock suit within the sister location
Can you share how to build that Glam Freddy Head? Also LOVE the theory new sub!
Thanks! Maybe in a future video
I like the theory but when it comes to explaining mike getting fired for odor i have another theory than just him being a walking corpse and that's him tampering the animatronics and the odors of the animatronics getting on him as a result.
So heres my thing, Sister location is a mess in the timeline, but Circus Baby Pizza world was 100% 1983-1985 as Acton was still with Fazbear, and he had Freddy, Foxy and Bonnie there plus a Springlock suit, Bunker was pre-Fredbear Family Dinner so storage was good, so it being 1985/86 makes sense, but with some other hints I feel like there a reason why Micheal could be in sister location in the year 2000, Yes, reason all comes down to the more reason games and more importantly I think the Idea of FNAF 3 being in 2023 is no longer true believing in could happen in 2015 30 years after the first Freddy's close.(Forgot to say how, Mike in the Security Logbook has some major hints that get over look and Reel Value is the one that tells you what year Mike wrote the Red Text and because the book was burnt it was around the FNAF 3 fire but was saved, someone else on reddit and in a video did the numbers and got 2015 if FNAF 1 happens 1992 base on better price valuing now knowing the State FNAF take place in and likely the place closed still in 1993 due to Christmas season being worth keeping the place open until January) But also the movie might hint the spring locking year is 2000 as it take place that year and similar timeframe in the graphic novels, also the Idea that Vanessa from the game was William daughter mean he was alive by 1997 as that Vanessa birth year as hinted in AR, and a good reason for Mike to be sent to the location is to kill him, and so there be a clean easy win for his Divorce thats in Vanessa backstory, sue it could been Elizabeth story being told to her but the fact that the one therapist knew Vanessa Mom means that story is true. So Sister Location events are flexible as they been trap for years without a good date on how long, we just know it can be from 1985-2014 which is a large Gap, new info to clarified the events be better.
Also for Jeremy bing Cassie Dad but also Bonnie Bully it fits better for FNAF 3 to be 2015 so SB be in 2023-2027ish and him being early 50s sounds better. Also AR happen in 2020 thanks to the emails so Help Wanted 1 was 2019 and FNAF Pizza Sim was 2017.
The 1986 Circus baby's pizza world i agree with and thats when elizabeth dies and afton leaves fazbear ent.
You forgot about dark spring trap because that is in sister Location meaning he was already spring locked, maybe its just Scott throwing us off with a fake ending but but I’m not sure
All of the evidence for SL being early only really works for Circus Baby's Pizza World. That's what opened after Freddy's closed and that's when the Funtimes were designed. I'm fine with that, but that doesn't mean that Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rentals was open then, or the gameplay for that matter.
You have to remember, Henry built all the original animatronics
ey yo mans has freddy and roxy's head, what did he do go to the pizzaplex and just steal their heads?
i like to think that the funtimes are versions of the afton siblings and mrs afton. FT Foxy is like mikey, ft freddy and bon bon are like evan and physic friend fredbear, baby is well elizabeth, and ballora is mrs afton
What if melted Freddy is the blob but it’s just mixed with all the other parts but just using Funtime Freddy’s head to move around in Security breach.
Okay but here's the thing say the first thing that happened in the timeline was the missing children incident that was the beginning of it all right now if we use that as a base we can see that that was the beginning of it all now if we continue the story that means the first missing incident that happened in part 1 but it happened in the five nights at Freddy's 1 that would mean sister location had already happened that would mean the events of sister location working at five nights at Freddy's 1 and then he went on to work at five nights at Freddy's 2 but here's the thing I believe personally when he got scooped in sister location key experience the dream inducing nightmare animatronics and as he experienced that in after concluded he woke up and that's how he became a walking corpse I believe with the nightmare animatronic I think that's my only personal theory on it basically what I'm saying is that the first thing that had happened to all protagonist was the fact that he got scooped but the events that happened in the past happened in the past pretty obvious when you think about it if I'm thinking that's correctlythe Funtime animatronics were created somewhere after the events in the second location I believe meaning after the toy animatronics well that's the way I think of it anyway maybe there is something there I'm not sure
If Henry is talking about molten MCI in his speech why wouldnt he say "that" machine?
The problem with SL is the environment's creation VS what goes on in the gameplay. Most of the gameplay is a mix of flashbacks and modern activities. The Scooper couldn't exist pre fnaf 1 as it's true purpose couldn't be fulfilled.(See the fnaf 6 blueprint for the scooper.) The funtimes existed before hand but were glitchy messes like Baby. They needed what the scooper gave them to be viable to pass off to fazbear entertainment. They had barely any functionality pre-remnant. The design choices thing is a weak conundrum as provably ONLY Circus Baby's are openly questioned. Meaning funtime Freddy, Foxy and Ballora were OKd by this point. But this happens BEFORE Mike is sent down there. Mike is sent down there post 'follow me' mini games. This places SL between Fnaf 1 and 3. As 2 has William lending tech to Henry to build the toys, so he can't build the funtime characters in that window as his parts are being given to the toys to allow Afton to cheat their facial recognition and break into the restaurant. Phone guy specifically mentions the facial recognition tampering, something ONLY a technician like Afton could do.
THE GLAMEOCK freddy movingg
Love your video and keep up the great work. You are awesome, and I think this is my first time seeing your face. I could be wrong, too, lol 😆
Thank you so much!
@@TwistedAnimatronic No problem
I simply think that Sister Location's time is way too futuristic to be in the 1990s. It doesn't *feel* like it's in the 90s. Not one bit. But it's ALSO not really recent, like in 2020, for example. It's more like.. possibly the late 2000's or a few years before 2010. This is also when technology really became more advanced, such as iPhones, and more. This means that Dave (Evan/C.C.) has already died (1983), and this time is when Elizabeth dies, and Michael gets scooped.
The earliest time that baby baby shows up is 1970 we got confirmation of that in ruin so that means Fred Bear had to be a little bit after so 83 and that means Michael could totally still be an adult when he sees baby again because Henry was the one who created baby that means a fun times were introduced a little bit after and they meet up in the late 70's Henry and William so the fun times are probably introduced sometime between 85 and 87 because the building where the fun times are kept are kept under Williams house fun times after 83 to keep his son Michael in the house after his brother's death so that means Elizabeth had to go first so so if baby came in the seventies Elizabeth would have been able to be killed then her brother CC and then Michael would be able to be murdered still be able to come back
But then how would it explain the teeth in fredbear stomach in FNAF 4 if it was the crying child when he died in 1983? How could sister location occur without figuring out that plothole?
Pls make theory of the springlock suit you are in, in night 4 of fnaf SL