Is The $2,000 Amazon Hawk DLX As Bad Off-Road As You Assume It Would Be? I Find Out!
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(imimotorsports....) The "Mighty" Hawk DLX cost just $2,000 when we bought it off Amazon, but can this dirt bike actually go off-road without falling apart? Roman finds out in this first ride review.
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This is the video I was waiting for. Good job, nice cheap bike!
you gonna buy it...?
@@drdext5454 too expensive for me lol
Very true, mate. I bought a chinese scooter for 500$ 11years ago and it is still fun to ride.
I'd go as far as saying for most people this is all you need it takes a different kind of person to own some of the monsters they produce now a days but a cheap entry and learning bike this is perfect you buy this learn maintaince and mods kind of like a introduction/training bike this is a bike you figure uout if you want a step up or if this is good enough happy trails be safe and keep 2 on the ground but for those of you who catch the moto bug good luck once you catch it you'll never look back an always want more
I have a magician 250cc it was like 1300, and with the gas crunch it paid for itself and is now saving me money and that is what i wanted and needed.
We bought a couple of these last spring and put around 1500 miles on them. They've been a blast. Just make sure to go back and tighten and put thread locker on everything. These motors are simple and made to run in developing countries. They may not be fast, but they're work horses.
These get much better after break in... power, brakes hugely improved, etc. I've had about every bike under the sun and this is one of my favorites! It's very durable, I don't worry about it when I go somewhere, and if it falls over, I really don't care. Parts are very cheap to replace, and so many parts are easily upgradeable. Heat shield has never warped, welds have never cracked. Buy it, spend $200 dollars on better levers, mirrors, and chain. Mine is a lot of fun running around town and offroad trails. What this is NOT, is a real enduro or dirt bike. It's for messing around with, and still starts on first try, every time. For the money, it's a great deal.
I’m looking for a chinese bike that has sufficient speed, Im not looking for too fast or too slow, you think this bike might be worth it?
@@Ghost88890REAL this is a decent commuter bike on the cheap. Don’t expect it to be amazing on or off-road it’s a middle ground with questionable quality and it will need attention and maintenance much more frequently than any other name brand bike. It is pretty low on power as well it’s more equal to a 150cc or 200cc name brand bike
@@Ghost88890REAL Depends what speed you need. I can get 65mph out of it, but I would not take it on the highway! Since buying this, I've probably spent $600 improving things I didn't like about it. So even for $2600, I'm pretty happy with it. I have 3 other bigger, name brand motorcycles that I also like, but for different reasons. This one is the most fun because I don't care if it gets beat up... so I take it off road and bottom out the shocks, etc without worrying about it. It's constantly abused and parked muddy. the next time it's always ready to go, and starts right up.
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For some people, this is all the bike you need.
I want one so I can go explore all the BLM land (Bureau of Land Management) land behind my house. Never ridden before, and not sure if I'll stick with it, but I feel like this would be a good way to get my feet wet. I want to get some bags and take out some ammo, a small meal, my rifle on my back, some targets, I think it could work.
@@raffitchakmakjian If you start you'll probably stick with it a while and even then it's something to come back to.
I've traveled thousands ofmiles off highways on adventure touring trips. I made a lugage rack to carry all my camp gear. Never had a problem and spent a fraction of the price.
Thank you
I'm that kind of guy
Roman: "I'm going to rev this out"
...Gets to 3k RPM, shifts.
Lol you got to wait 6 to 9 seconds after redline and then shift
11:49 he says "ring it out" is that what you're trying to quote?
@@GeneralJameson wring
I put 5000 miles on my carb version, only had a few issues that were easily resolved. Definitely had a lot of fun with it. Could hit 65mph with mine.
Mine made 74 mph and still alive, there is something wrong with that EFI bikes
@@bermne the engine hasn't broken in, hes at a really high elevation and hes kinda heavy so it makes sense it wouldn't be that fast here
Different gearing would help with higher speeds
Numbers don’t matter turns out, I have one of these, first motorcycle, im a grown man, I’ve scared myself on it in second gear several times, not because of blistering speed, but speed is relative to the situation. This dude is shifting super early, my brakes work great, the wheels and tires are nicer than they should be. Bike is heavy, I’m over six foot and over 200 lbs, great farm bike and has great torque and enough room for serious storage on the back. Faster than any utility fourhweeler I’ve ridden when you actually use the full rpm range.
Happy with your purchase? I’m looking at this and the Tao Tao tbr7
@@jarredl990 What I've heard is basically hawk for a little more offroad or Tbr7 for more street.
To do a burnout, set the front brake and stand on the ground to unload the rear tire. It will spin
I bet it's more fun than a 125 trail at $4k.
Tries to start a fuel injected bike while twisting the throttle, typically that doesn’t work well. 16:35 Good video, keep it up.
Great vid Roman. After spending $77k on the truck, you need a cheap bike
I got one of these for fun, 2 years later due to gas being so high, now a commuter bike. Its been great no problems!
Very common moto in Nicaragua main transportation for most families and they cost around $1400 here. It's not uncommon to see 2 adults and 3 kids going down road on them.
Same in the Philippines
you sure its a hawk and not a Honda nxr150? the hawk is a styling copy of that bike.
I've seen a lot of these in Colombia I think it's a clone of an upbuilt Honda CG 125, which should at least make for a fairly reliable engine.
Did you adjust your brakes prior to riding ?
I doubt he's changed the oil... Got to love pompous idiots
Excellent starter bike. Picked up the fuel injected version and now it's sitting at around 2,000 miles. Very easy to maintain, and parts are easy to find. Had previous experience with dirtbikes and 4 wheelers but wanted to get my license, so this is the little fella I used to take the test 👍
Part of putting together the bike is adjusting many of the issues you are having. Looks like what Japanese bikes where in the 70s. Once you get good oil in it and the engine gets ran for awhile to break in and seal it should feel a little better, 11 horse is never awe inspiring but it is enough to get moving if you are a 160 pound teen. Glad to see you out having fun Roman, that is what matters is to keep living your life as much as you can. Nice camera work Alex. Stay safe and healthy guys.
Hey, roman, the elephant in the room is the elephant on the bike! Hire someone who has graduated past "novice rider" to do your motorcycle testing.
totally agree, how can they even call this a review, when the "test rider" can barely keep the bike upright and obviously has little experience riding off road.
@@douglasminor2559 He also said they were a mile above sea level, and any bike would need some compensation for that. He probably isn't much of a mechanic either. Starts off the video bragging about how much his truck cost like a pretentious A-hole.
From what I've seen of this video, It would seem that the fuel injected version is substantially less powerful than the standard carbureted version. I've watched numerous videos where the carbureted versions were easily capable of doing a "burnout" and displayed much better acceleration than this fuel injected version.
No offense but it's the rider here
@@sevenmilewhite1407 yea Roman is a heavy dude for a 229cc
There are other factors like the weight of the rider as well as the elevation, which causes bikes like these to lose a good amount of power
Exactly why I came to these comments. Roman is ,bluntly, considerably too sizeable for this bike and he rides it like a granny, lugging it (even for a 4 stroke). It definitely needs a larger rear sprocket, some tuning attention, and the 20cc that are missing. Roman needs a lesson in what a flat torque curve actually means. I'd be curious to know how much of this underwhelming performance goes away at sea level.
Your too big for a 250 to expect much performance from that 2k bike .
Most of the 250 crossers have 3 times the power and weigh just over half. You can't expect much for $2k but its not because its a 250. Its because its based on an engine design from the 70's and then built to terrible tolerances with the cheapest materials possible. Cheap for a reason.
@@siraff4461 You'd be better off buying an older Japanese bike of a comparable type. They're built much better, with better materials, and the brakes work. These bikes are crap, only suitable for total beginner novices like Roman and son. They ditched it, as they should have.
@@siraff4461 The engine design being from the 70s is irrelevant. It was designed by Honda to withstand the harshest conditions the third world could offer. The engine is also made by Zongshen which is a huge company that manufactures quality motors and motorcycles. The engine is the one reliable thing about this bike.
@@mazdaweeb3 I'm glad you read the press brochure. Back in the real world 70's design means designed for the tooling, tolerances and fluids (fuel/oil) available back then - along with the missing 50 years of development since then.
On a 250 like this the difference is about double the power, about half the fuel use and about twenty times the longevity.
@@siraff4461 You're talking like the factories producing these engines are using tooling and tolerances from the 70s. These engines were designed to keep running with basically zero maintenance. That coupled with the modern tooling, tolerances, and metallurgy used to produce them now means they'll be even more reliable than in the 70s. CSC is a well known importer of Zongshen bikes, and all their bikes have gotten lots of praise, including the tt250 dual sport which uses the same engine. Those bikes have been put through hell and still run strong. As far as power and fuel efficiency goes, it's not much less than a modern air cooled 250, and nowhere near the half you claim. The only air cooled 250 singles making 32hp, if they even exist, are in race bikes.
Hey...um... maybe break it in then test power and speed? That engine is still tight. Brakes do suck but thats what down shifting is for.
Can't have champgne on a beer budget, it has it's place.
I got a 2020 Carbed Hawk 250 for $1400 and I absolutely LOVE this bike! Will it win and races? Not in a million years. Can you jump it? Maybe but it may cost you some bones. Otherwise, this thing is fantastic, does great on and off road, and with 1000 miles so far, seems VERY reliable! I LOVE my Hawk 250.
Gear shifting gets better after broken in, it will rev out slightly higher after it brakes in. I love my crappy china bike, does it compare to my KLX no but still fun. That engine is actually pretty good, its all the other bits that fall off or break lol
I almost wonder if the Carb version would be more advantageous since you could take that extra $200 and plop in a nice Carb and actually tune it.
yes, fact.
I would think fuel injections more reliable? Can you swap an oem carb to upgrade carb for a fair amount of power and reliability? Im just about to buy a cheap bike so im curious .thx
@@KENPOCHOPPER I specifically bought the carbed hawk because the thought of having some obscure fuel injection part or pump go bad out on the trail is unfixable roadside... not to mention can you even find that obscure Chinese part to repair your Chinese fuel injection components? I just don't trust Chinese electronics or wiring or Parts availability Chinese bikes have a bad reputation and most of that has to do with shotty electrical parts and cheap engineering.... almost any buddy can fix carbs eadily enough.. hell u can install all five different types of carbs on the same bike as long as you tune it and it fits the openings... but where you gonna get that chinese fuel air sensor?
@@kaosbc They sell the fuel injection parts on the website where they sell the bikes. I know people buy the carb hawk then as soon as they get them they buy an amazon carb and swap it out. Theres a guy on youtube that has 11 bikes and he tests them out too. He seems to love the fuel injection vs carb. I was just trying see if any other differences. Im also looking at enduro vs dirt only. i like the idea of just riding to a train rather then loading it up. I think for most part the dirt vs enduro are the same except lights. Unless I am wrong?? It might be the enduro only that has the fuel injection too.
All sorts of old school performance tricks for these 229cc engines. Being able to tune for them easily I see as an advantage.
I have one. Got it a month ago and learned/learning how to ride. Its a lot of fun and im going to upgrade. I appreciate this balanced and informative video. Thanks!
Nice review. You pretty much get what you pay for, it has its market. Lots of fun on the cheap, and serious transportation for those on a really tight budget.
I believe the power specs are in kw. 11 kw is about 15 hp. I'm usually a fan of fuel injection but I think if I were looking for a very cheap bike like this to play with I'd go with one of the many carbureted versions, like the Brozz. A new replacement carb can be had for about $35, a larger upgraded carb for not much more, and they can be easily re-jetted. But when the EFI on this thing stops working you are probably out of luck.
If you weren't being kind you would call it JUNK. lol
The tent topper looks like it would come in handy...I like how it folds up ☺.
I’ve got one of these with a bunch of modifications - 17/45 sprockets, different swingarm(Brozz 250), shorter rear shock, oil cooler, Renthals, crf250 footpegs... a couple other things. It’s my first, and it’s all I needed to learn on. Definitely wasn’t disappointed.
Whatd all that run you? And estimated time spent on work? Couldn't be too bad really. Planning to buy a lifan xpect 200 for fun. I plan to do lots of playing around and learning before buying something way more expensive.
@@fudgepuppy9683 total cost is around 500-700$ in parts and probably 10 hours total in work. The real challenge is that almost nothing fits out of box, so you need to modify things to fit. Half the fun in my opinion.
The "RiderJustice" plugs are awesome in so many ways... and the young kid presenting the info does a fabulous job; he's got a bright future in the media biz. TFL rules!
I'd ride it a few miles to the bar and back. I like it. Plus some are saying, on Amazon reviews, to re-tooth it and it will run 75 easy
Maybe with a different secondary. I dropped the primary to a 12t on my apollo 250rx and it will wheelie and break traction off the line now. Before it wouldn't like in the video. I also richened up the pilot jet 35 and 115 main. Phx az running 91.
Roman , stop dyeing your hair , you guys buy a cheap bike then complain about it , pot is legal in Colorado , you guys need some
Its sold as a 250 and makes less power than most 125's while weighing more than most 450's. If it put out the ~18hp or so that engine was originally designed for back in the 70's it wouldn't be such a let down. As it is they used such cheap materials and poor tolerances that they had to detune it to keep it running for any length of time.
Cheap junk.
Why do you care if Roman dyes his hair? Do you like your older men with gray hair? I guess everyone has their kinks...
Hope you changed the oil an checked the vales clearance..
It looks like this bike was designed as a city commuter bike for the Chinese market. It's just a simple motorcycle and isn't trying to be anything else.
Bleak brown landscape and rehashing some of the previous reviews was nice and all, but what I'm most excited to see is it putting around on a dirt road, going along gently off road with one of the trucks, being used as a city scooter and testing it's durability as the miles rack up! Hell, even an MPG test. This is like the tiniest scrap of content ever lol. I may be chomping at the bit over here :P Anywho, I'm excited to see where this series goes from here!
Seriously what the hell you expect for $2,000 laugh out loud.
I own a tbr7 which is a cheaper carbureted version of this. That bike did great. It currently has 10k miles. Actual miles not km. Had rock solid reliability since new. I since got a crf250l which yes is way better in every single way, but is 5 times the cost. And i still keep the tbr7 running as a loaner bike for friends and family up at the cabin
You would have had a much better experience if you did the proper preride prep for a fresh Hawk. The chain looks way tight, valves sound bad and did you change the shipping oil out. Also you need to clean the rotors with thinner first to get the shipping lube off. They'll actually stop.
That truck isn't the most expensive truck you can buy 🤣 Ram TRX ... or any new fully loaded diesel truck
Fuel injection is nice, but there are so many older 250 dual sports you can get fairly cheap on the used market. I really love my 2001 Kawasaki Super Sherpa. I got mine for $350, but ended up replacing tires, tubes, sprockets, chain, fork seals, brake pads, seat cover, mirrors, grips, levers, various odds and ends, and the biggest repair was the one-way starter clutch. I sorta stopped keeping track, but I estimate I have $1100 wrapped up in it including my initial investment. It might look like a 20 year old bike and it has 18,000 miles, but it is a completely solid bike and I still trust it more than a brand new Chinese bike. I give it another 5 years, though, and there will be some genuinely good Chinese made bikes available.
The Raptor is a so DAMN good looking truck
Roman my man nice dirt bike skills! Yah that bike looks pretty sketchy. Maybe good for teaching beginners to ride thats about it lol.
Did you Squeeze the front brake when you were trying to do a "burn out"? My china bike will and its a smaller displacement.
This was painful to watch. It seemed lke i was just watching a 50 year old man learn to ride at a dirt covered MSF course.
This video makes it painfully obvious you are not a motorcycle guy. (Just because you know how to do something does not make you an expert.)
I have a 2020 and it runs and rides great it does burnouts and wheels great and im 6’1’’ 235 lbs
Excellent review. It is perfect for a beginner that needs to learn and not be over powered. Great to see you on a bike giving a dirt bike review. Experienced dirt riders would not want that bike.
Neat I'm in longmont I never knew of this place. I just hit the mountains
You said “there’s no reason to drop a bike” then you show a bike that’s been dropped.
So glad this bike came to the American market, aswell as the other "china" bikes. Love these things. Very reliable when you apply common sense and basic mechanical and electrical knowledge. My friends dad has one and he's put over 7000 miles on his loaded with gear finding any road he comes across to adventure on. Give this thing the benefit of the doubt they are a blast with friends 😂🤘
Far too critical for the cheapest EFI enduro available to westerners.
Sooo its good for a starter?
Even the EFI models look to run lean and restricted. My clapped out carb version of the Hawk will easily clutch up the front wheel in second and has decent brakes for what it is. It looks modern but performs (after a carb/pipe swap/valve adjustment) like a 70s machine. For around $1300 shipped and about $130 in e-bay parts I can't complain. I'm guessing since they are compliant with US emissions the bikes get shipped running lean and restricted to pass. The engines are Honda clones for the most part. Are they fast? No. Yet they are nowhere as bad as this guy wearing my Mothers sunglasses say's they are. Thread locker and a bit of mechanical know how is a must if you want to ride on the cheap. Go check out MotoCheez if you want to know more about these bikes.
Can you wheelie these things? I’m looking for a cheap bike just to ride wheelies on so I don’t destroy my pan America.
@@djsin5254 you can tune the dlx through the obd2 port . An yes they can wheelie but it feels weird ,like a big pit bike.
Why is it that every hawk that gets a review on youtube is a lemon.. The thousands of us other folks got a far superior bike than has been reviewed. For what the bike is, CARB version included it's fantastic and plenty as well as completely reliable.
You spent 8 videos trashing a $2,000 Amazon bike.
Good review and tells me to avoid this piece of China junk.
That smoking bargain is a steaming pile of CRAP!!!
Ok, there MUST be adjustment for the brake linkage. I would say a "terrifying" assembler rather than terrifying brakes. A 250lb reviewer??. A continuously negative review with a legal disclaimer at the end that it is fun and worth it. This doesn't feel like an honest and independent review!
The brakes are rubbish because they use wooden pads (not literally) and have little to no bite - especially while running in. In theory they self adjust like any hydraulic brake but tolerances are so hit and miss that it could be anything from a slightly warped disc to elastic brake lines (yes really) causing it. No idea why a 250lb reviewer would be a problem - he's well within the weight limit and big people do ride bikes too. I'm a bit heavier than Roman and none of my bikes struggle like that thing - even the Grom I got as a bit of a joke. Having been around a few Chinese built bikes I would say its honest. Most are terrible with the odd one being just about bareable.
I didn't know Gabriel Byrne rides Hawkes.
If they lied about 250 cc, how do we know they're not lying about 229 cc?
I have one of these and im only 140 lbs, it goes fast
i think it's a good desert bike for the cheap. just a trail bike that could get groceries . not bad for 2k
11 HP? My Derbi GP1 scooter with a 70cc cylinder made 14.
Come on though a Derbi is cool as heck anyway. Funny that this 250 makes less power than most 125's.
It's 1970's Honda pushrod engine tech, pushrods don't rev high enough to make horsepower and ancient engines didn't make much to begin with :P This engine was designed to tractor along at low rpm in daily use, which isn't exactly thrilling but it is useful.
@@kasinko Thats a fair comment. Only one thing - the CG 125 (depending on model and where its sold) makes 11-12hp anyway. With over 100cc less on the same design.
Definitely shouldn't compare this bike to a Japanese bike. These bikes are in their own class and are designed to get you from point A to B. I had a couple of Chinese 125cc dual sports and had more fun on them just putting around than I did on my better brand dirtbikes just because I knew I couldn't go fast or jump the biggest obstacles but I always got there in one piece. Sometimes the bike didn't stay in one piece but I was never heartbroken over it. It's par for the course with those. I could ride for days on a gallon of gas. All the unnecessary parts had fallen off and were forgotten about.
I have one and it keeps up with a 250 Kawasaki off-roading at high speed with a simple sprocket change to 17 45.
My friend just got one and I was curious to see a review before I tried his out. For the price it seems like a great deal but those welds really scare me and I’d rather spend the 2k on a used DR-Z400 or something comparable.
I get your sentiment, but good luck finding a used Japanese bike, especially a DRZ400, in the $2,000 range that doesn't have 50k miles on it and still runs good. I see Japanese dual sports on marketplace all the time with tens of thousands of miles on them and small issues (clogged carb, bald tires, shot breaks etc) going for $4,000+ dollars just because they still run. You can not get a Japanese bike in good condition for $2,000. Not unless it's a child's bike 125cc or less, and especially one that's road legal. You can get a good condition Japanese cruiser for that money (think Honda Rebel, Suzuki Boulevard) but not a dual sport. Good luck.
@@smartacus88 these days you’re right but there was definitely bikes to be had for 2K a couple years ago. Remember this post is from a year ago too!
I think you guys should give it to Alex and see if he can improve it on the cheap. Regearing, better brake pads(adjusted properly), and maybe an exhaust and a better air intake.
Is there reflective heat shielding on the "heat shield"? It's not uncommon for side covers to be plastic with adhesive heatshielding underneath.
... proud of you Roman.
Thought you would've called it junk right away (I would've).
A lot of patience shown on this episode.
Is that $77,000 Craptor worth it...? Did you get what you paid for from it...?
I had a 1982 Yamaha XS 850 that actually was 826 cc's. I wish I still had it. So numbers have been fudged many times.
My 2011 carbureted Suzuki DR200SE goes 70 MPH in 5th gear... 199cc
You should pat yourself on the back
For same price, I think a used DR650 would be worlds better. I bought a '16 DR650 with plenty of farkles for 4k and that was overpriced. Lots more deals out there to be had.
With just a few mods. This thing will be a beast for the budget rider.
Plastics can be bought from CSC motorcycle's based out of California. They are for the CSC TT250, but fit the Hawk 250
Well, firstly it's not a dirt bike. It's a dual sport and the off road capabilities are as a light trail bike.
Second, why is the assumption that it would be bad off road? This sounds just like how people talked about Japanese bikes back in the 70s and early 80s.
Those brakes are not adjusted . This bike is perfect for a beginner or as a run to store bike .
The front brake is hydraulic, and shouldn't have any adjustment.
@@bladecutter1 Air in the lines .
3-4k would be a older fuel injected bike but it still might require some work. Nothing crazy but I'd say well worth it over a hawk. The ones i seen in person anyway. But i would say it beats those 45mph scooters all day.
Well said, ppl out here trying to fly on a 250 lol
Bring those RPM's up it will burn out or lift the front wheel... I purchased one of these. Carb version... Made a few changes to it and love it ... Did 150 miles back roads last weekend . Installing the 16 tooth gear to go with my 45 rear I have already installed. This bike is a blast to ride and cheap. Brakes work good but will need upgraded ...
I just bought a Hawk. So smd
Damn Roman you couldn't let the younger guys do this review
It may have to do with whoever dropped the bike...
Yeah why not let the younger guys do the review cmon geez I like seeing case and alex such handsome young man they are.
I can’t watch all of this. I have a Bashan Brozz, a carbureted version of this bike with a few other features. Mine may be the Cadillac of the many Honda clones like this. Hawk, Bashan, the TT250, and 2-3 other makers are all clones of an older Honda air cooled bike. Mine was shipped to my door for $1950.00 in 2021 and came with inverted front fork, luggage rack, braided brake lines, front and rear disk brakes, factory installed alarm with motion sensor, and even remote electric start. They are light, but not as light as a dirt bike. But they are full size. Many aftermarket parts are available by mail order. And as for replacement parts, easy to get and cheap! New mirror with bracket: $10.00. New clutch lever: $12.00. A whole new engine complete with spark plug is under $500. They are easy to work on, but do come in a crate, and mechanical skills are needed to assemble and tinker on one. Is it fast? Max is 60 mph for most models. Gearing changes are optional. These bikes are all over the world, yet just catching on here in the US. I love mine. Call Jeff at Brozz250.com. Tell him Tracy from Maine sent you.
Everything is preconceived notions with this guy. 1) You are at a high elevation with a 230cc bike. It seems lacking in power? No shit, Sherlock. 2) You bought it direct. No dealer prep. If you had cleaned the rotors with hot soapy water, and bled the brakes, they work a lot better. 3) There are a lot of videos that outline these machines, their issues, and how to deal with them. 4) If you expected this bike to compare to a KTM, or some Euro bike, you have no business trying to do an "objective" review.
Having fun is the most important 🤘🏻
you think your raptor is the most expensive full sized truck you can buy? are you full of yourself? $77k? really? you believe that or misspoke?
I have read evaluations of Westerners living in China that describe Chinese bikes as unreliable POS waiting to leave you stranded. Unless this bike has a quality unusual for China that is upgraded for export, beware. I doubt that is the case, spend the extra money for a Japanese bike so your day on the street/trails is not ruined. A $2,000 bike is crap and worth $0 if it falls apart. At least a Japanese bike will have parts available in a marketing chain and will have good residual value should you wish to sell it later.
I bet if you adjusted the valves, bled the brakes, cleaned the rotors, and scuffed up the pads it would be like a whole different bike. My 2017 brozz 250 is basically the same bike and it stops well and does about 70mph top speed. Also it would behoove you guys to get the oil changed. They come with a shipping oil in them and it isnt really meant to be run with it. They can be reliable fun bikes if set up and maintained properly.
Dude ik it’s been a year but do you mean bleed the brakes when you get it I’m thinking ab getting one and would like to know
@@kobemoss1624 yes, that's what he means...in the video he was complaining about how much you had to pull the brake lever to get them to work. It's very possible there was air in the lines...
The complaint with the brakes is what stood out. I watched the videos where the bike was assembled but it looks like nothing was adjusted - especially the brakes. Because you had to assemble the bike, it isn't going to be like buying one off the showroom. Everything needs to be adjusted and tightened. With cheap bikes even more so.
Exactly what adjustment would you like them to do on a hydraulic brake set up?
The pull on the brake lever - in my experience - is adjustable. Usually it is a cable adjustment or adjustment to the lever itself. So instead of applying full brakes at 95% it will apply at 50% of the lever travel. I should say that I have only done this on a few different bikes and I can't be sure if the hawk is the same. But it seemed Roman picked up on exactly this issue.
@@mrgigabytes You're talking about cable brakes which are almost obsolete on motor bikes these days. This is hydraulic so if there is pressure (and the fact they work suggests there is) then they are self adjusting as they will pump up when the lever is released. You see him pulling the brake a few times and it doesn't get better which suggests poor tolerances and possible a bent/warped disc.
On hydraulics there is usually no manual adjustment on cheaper set ups and only lever throw adjustment on the better ones.
Once they are bled thats pretty much it and the fact they aren't pumping further out after a few pulls says there isn't air in them.
They are just trash brakes.
Suzuki DR200SE = 14hp \ Honda water cooled & injected CRF250L = 24+ hp. Different price though.
You didn't even give it the chance to break in.... After I broke mine in it would go 60 complete stock it would also take bumps like the ones you went over like a champ. And since then I've spent an extra 100 to gear it better and now it will go 70. Last week I went trail riding with my friend on the steepest rockiest trail in my area. And the best part is it kept up with a 250 Kawasaki made for dirt the only bad thing that happened was the left front view mirror fell off due to me tightening it too hard.
I think with a few tweaks and adjustments, the 230cc Mighty Hawk could be not just better but safer.
Starting with at least some rebound damping on the rear...
Big guy little bike.
I’m thinking this might be inexpensive enough for someone (like me) with zero dirt riding experience to learn on, without worrying much about the cost of dropping it.
Buy an old used farm dirt bike. That's what I did. But found out it had power band. Lol not good for someone how knows nothing of it.
great video the bike is a good value for the money wish I could say the same for the Raptor 77k I'll keep my Tundra
Why would you rack the throttle IMMEDIATELY after cranking the motor???
These clone bikes have a lot of mods available now since they're getting popular and that Honda is bringing the XR150 to the United States, which is the original bike.
he was determined to hate it from the outset, and it still made him have fun after all of his complaining. Shockingly, it does not have the fit and finish of an $8k Yami but the markets for bikes is insane right now.
A completely clapped out used 20-year-old Honda sells for $2000 less than a brand new one.
So if you don’t want to spend the $8000, there is pretty much no other option.
So it's obvious you are against the bike from the rip...
My 2023 Dlx easily does burnouts on dirt. I weigh 180. My brakes work just fine. Counter balanced crank etc. This is a cool Chinese bike.
That's exactly what I was thinking what you said about used bikes. Just 5 years ago I bought a low miles XR650L for $2500. The same bike today they want $4k.
After watching this review I am so glad I got a carburetor version because I weigh 250 and get mine to 65mph on the street after changing the sprockets. I'm also getting around 19hp. Brakes are easily adjustable so complaining about the brakes without adjusting them is silly.