Thanks for the video Jeff. This will be my first year following your no till strategy from spring throughout the year. I’ve followed your videos and implemented several of your management methods along with seeding your fall plantings on my parents old dairy farm in northern NY for the past couple of years. It’s left a lot of the neighbors scratching their heads as to what I was doing and likely the butt of a few jokes... until last fall when we harvested one of the largest bucks taken in the area in probably 3 decades. I’m a true believer. Keep up the great work. I’ll be sure to give my neighbors a smirk and head nod from the seat of my 4 wheeler this summer.
We planted about 1 1/2 acres of buckwheat on a new lease early June in Upstate New York. I thought we were in trouble as we had limited rain for a couple weeks. I visited the plot today and its thick and green. Some spots 12-16 inches. We'll be knocking it down in about 3 weeks and planting our Fall Plot. Great advice and video here. Thanks Jeff !
Thanks for another great video... I think it's setting up for a dry summer here in SE WI so this will be a method I focus on this season...we have the toys to till, but poor soil in many areas... looking forward to great plots
This will really help you out...and save you some time ☺️ especially as it relates to a warm, hot and dry summer. I'm looking forward to you having great plots too!
How does this only have 400 likes? The most informative food plot information available anywhere. This is something most people can implement on their parcels. Bravo WHS
Thanks a lot Rich...means a lot to me! At least it has 5-10 times more views, likes and comments than the average of other whitetail content creator vids at the moment 😁 I think it will help folks going forward for a few years to come, because I agree, it can really help most folks in most situations on their lands.
"You do not need to remortgage your house to plant food plots this fall" legendary quote! Trying your buckwheat no till system this fall in upstate ny! Going to try forage sorghum on the edges of the plot as a screen wish me luck !
I have a small honeyhole (less than an acre) so instead of using a clutipacker (since I don't own one) AFTER I broadcast my soybean, clover, and winter peas OR buckforage oats couldn't I just mow down the buckwheat, which will provide instant cover for my new seeds and a quicker breakdown of the buckwheat?
Thanks for all the great advice. It sounds like at 2 minutes you say '10 days later, till'.... I thought there was no till? Also, it'd be great if you came back and videoed throughout the whole year, the same plot.
The only thing Im asking about is the 2 QUARTS of roundup to the acre. I have one plot that requires a disking early on to dry it out. It's in a swamp. The other plots are on hill sides so no disking there. Naked oats work good for us in the south.
2019 season in texas was rough. I travel all over the state and talk for alot of people who all consistantly said the same thing. They flat out didnt see deer. The main excuse overall was that the acorn crop was like nothing weve ever had. Question is.. does a massive acorn crop have the capability of keep deer in their core areas?
Cross Plains (few live oaks, mainly mesquite) had deer everywhere. Red River county, no deer came to corn. Had to wade through acorns to get to the stand. Even hogs didn't care about corn.👍
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Hey Jeff up in northern mn starting my access trails this weekend around perimeter of property to start my "inside out property" then spraying next weekend ,pumped to turn around the property to no pressure all deer all the time thanks for all the info keep up the good work
Sounds great Mark! Make sure to take the setups exactly like I say...seed I to the buckwheat, then crush and spray over top of the seed. Not necessarily saying this to you...but anyone who is reading this. I actually had someone day this didn't work last year. Come to find out they tried seeding it into a standing lawn, lol. Uh, that won't work ☺️ Good luck Mark!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 , thanks , I will make sure to do that. I am right know try to establish Switch . I frost seeded in Feb. and sprayed simazine, then 4 weeks later hit it with round up. Thanks for the guidance.
I definitely would not. You want the stalks crushing all of the same direction so sunlight can get to the germinating plants ASAP. Also, you can just run it over with ATV tires...truck tires, etc.
Thank you for all the great information! My question is do you use urea for your Buckwheat? I'm just not getting the height that you are in your videos ! Looking forward to hearing back from you!
Hey Jeff maybe you covered this but I was wondering about soil fertilizer recommendations. Plan on using buckwheat for the cover crop, but have my soil analysis for my intended fall crops. Do I fertilize before the buckwheat or forgo that and fertilize at the same time I broadcast into the standing buckwheat? Thanks
Thanks Jeff! Could you talk about fall mix species you would pick if in a 500-1000 acre camp in 40k similar habitat. Comparable to the big woods public you talk about. What if you were trying to have the most attractive yet can produce enough for heavy graze. We are half dozen plots in your system now. Last fall was first planted into rolled and sprayed summer growth. We are now prepping for August planting and brassica and clover and grains?
Hey Jeff, Just a clarification, in my notes from a previous vis it says not to mix the 24d into the buckwheat no till because the 24d has a 60 day residual impact that can interfere. For buckwheat no till, first early spraying of with or without 24d? Thanks for all your help, Cheers!
Hi Rick...hope I didn't make a mistake in the notes! But 2-4D is about 3 weeks at most. Simazine is 60 days. Hope I didn't have a senior moment ☺️ I will use 2-4D in early May...then plant buckwheat early June.
How do you keep the birds, mostly turkeys from eating the exposed buckwheat seeds? Turkeys wreak havoc on my plots! And thank you for all the great content you provide us!
Hey Jeff you really don’t need to remind everyone every single video that you created and invented these practices and which year and how many years you have done it, we get it your awesome. 👏
Jeff, at 9:50 you said to add an extra pound of buckwheat to the brassicas side of the plot due to thatch from crushed buckwheat plants. Did you mean add an extra pound of brassicas?
Interesting method and would like to try this next season on virgin ground. But what about liming and fertilizer. I been doing food plots in traditional ways with Disking and tilling ground while Lime and fertilizer is incorporated into the soil. Do you just leave all that on the top of the ground and if so. When would you do it. Obviously lime early But when would you fertilize and what type of fertilizer would you recommend for Buckwheat. Would you add additional fertilizer for fall planting prior to crushing and spraying. Obviously that would depend on what your planting for the fall since fertilizer would be different for clover than for brassica's or rye/wheat/oats. I have had problems with erosion and most of my land is sloped. So I am interested in this method
Hey Jeff, have you tried bush hogging the buckwheat after you have broadcast the fall seed? Why would that not work? If the buckwheat does start to come back a bit it will die off completely at first frost while your rye and brassicas will continue to grow. I am in western NY.
Will the buckwheat waste be gone by the following growing season? Will it eventually compile up till you can’t plant anything without tilling? I like this idea a lot, thanks Jeff.
Hi Ben, good morning! If the Buckwheat can get into the soil, then I would not mow. Since my plantings are in old food plot areas...I never have to mow. A lot of the time it is better to let the dead weeds and grasses stay vertical, so that you do not create a mat of thatch that you end up having to disc or till into the ground. It really books down to if you can get the seeds into the soil for adequate seed to soil contact.
Jeff, I have been hitting your videos hard these last few weeks. Thank you! As I stated in a recent comment on another video, I am lucky enough to have just purchased a 20 acre near Mankato. We close March 19th 2021 and take possession that day. I want to to hit the ground running. My question is this. Do your books cover a step by step order of operations for planting small food plots? I have a 4 wheeler, 3 nozzle 25 gallon sprayer. And am going to buy a packer Max. I assume I need to weed with 2,4d may June July. Then plan to plant buckwheat, lay it down in the fall and do tillage radish for my first year. Just really need the step by step help, and hoping the books cover that in detail. Thanks for all you do!! Tony
Hi Jeff, Can you use the soil builder seed from Northwoods Whitetails instead of just buckwheat as a cover crop before fall planting?Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you for this video. I've tilled, drilled, and disc for 20 years. Weeds, weeds and more weeds! I fertilize, lime, and spray each year according to my soil samples. I want to try this NO-TiLL method. I am going to rewatch this video and follow your recommendations. I currently have 2 acres of rye which I planted last fall. I've been planting soy beans for the last few years. I live in central WV. I would welcome any information or suggestions you might offer.
While I always changed the seed mixes (in my green blend and brassica seed types) I am still planting roughly 90% of green areas in my buckwheat ultimate no till.
Hi Jeff. Thanks for all the great advice. This is my first year trying a food plot. I've been trying to find a small tractor but now I'm going with this method. I'm only doing 5000 sf so I can do most of this by hand. In my area of South Jersey a lot of guys use turnips for the fall planting. Any thoughts on that?
Hey brother I’ve been busy putting a shower in our house ain’t had time to watch videos.im still waiting on my surgery on my right shoulder rotator cuff is tore bad nearly off the bone it’s bad plus bone spurs and another tendon under my rotator cuff is tore bad plus bone spurs to. I was supposed to have surgery April the 7th but it was postponed. I’m calling the surgery center Monday I’ve got to get it over with I’m loosing the use of my right arm slowly here. Turkey hunting to I got one Wednesday before last to.
Jeff this is Jarrett. I’m in Northern Illinois! We are trying your method this year and we sprayed like you said on areas that have never had a food plot. The areas are thick with weeds and I didn’t catch the part that we may have to till the first year to get to bare dirt for the buckwheat. I’m understanding that right that you do have to till? Is there another way ? Thanks!
Jeff, If your spraying the buckwheat with glyphosate is it necessary to use a roller like the one your using? Could you just use a lawn roller since your spraying it anyhow?
If I have an existing clover plot I want to implement this process on can I just skip the buckwheat and spray 2-3 times before planting brassicas and rye this fall? Then next year start up the buckwheat?
Hey Jeff, I planted clover and turnips this year (not purple top, it’s designed specifically for browse it’s actually a cattle graze plant) just wondering is it possible to broadcast beans or something for the fall into that? Or could I just broadcast more of my clover and turnips later on top of the existing plants? First year doing plots. The rest of the farm is planted in wheat this year and we have cattle pasture as well
Hey Jeff quick question first time food plot planter .. what would you suggest for eastern NY catskill area for fall planting seed wise .. property is rolling hills with some open areas . Will throw some buckwheat in but what else would you recommend. No AG around by the way keep up the great vids god bless.
What if you broadcast the buckwheat and get no rain? Will it still germinate? I sprayed May 1 and had bare ground. Then broadcast June 1. There were some weeds starting to pop back up but I figured the buck wheat would choke them out. Going on the second week of june now and no rain and the weeds are getting thicker.
You always want to spray when you plant buckwheat if any weeds showing...I like to target early June but I do watch the weather. Of the buckwheat seed has not germinated you can spray Glyphosate over the top right now. Even add another 20#s if you feel you have lost seed to critters.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the reply. How long can the seed sit on the ground before it's no good? I dont see rain in the forecast until June 15
I am able to access my plot with a zero turn. (This is what your talking about at the 10 min mark). Could you seed over the top of the plot, then mow with a zero turn, seed again, and then kill it with glyphosate? The mowing should expose the stalk of the weeds and existing plot close to the ground and kill it very effectively. My only fear would be mowing would blow some of the seed away but that’s why I would seed again after mowing!! Any thoughts?
Hi Jeff, I planted Buckwheat 6/8/2020. I'm just north of Madison Wi. It's almost 6 ft tall. Should I get my brassica down now or wait until 8/1/2020 ish
I would look to get it started. We are not supposed to get rain soon so that's a good thing as it will allow the buckwheat to break down well before germination.
Hey Jeff, are you cutting the oats out of your mix this year? I’ve debated on doing that the last couple of years, the deer are not really touching them.
Hi Ben...I'm going straight 100#s of peas/50#s beans this year on that 1/2. Still adding the 200#s rye grain later. Always tweaking the mix ☺️ I'm cutting them this year
Jeff, I am a South Alabama wildlife manager. I own 88 acres and have been following you for years. The rut and fawn cycle is so different from most of your followers. Our fawns are born in late summer. So it is important to have a summer and winter food source. My fall date for planting is first of October. I have adjusted my planting dates from your plans and I thank you for sharing ALL of your management plans.
Thanks Dan! Really the time to lime is any time. Definately fertilizing at buckwheat termination time...I also typically add 75#s nitrogen per acre roughly 4-5 weeks after brassica germination, right before a good rain.
Hey Jeff I done the No till an I guess that I’m one of those people that the deer have eaten to the ground might be 4 inches high but half of the plot I have smart weed I think it’s from whitetail institute food plot seed myself never had it until I used it once an it’s a pain getting rid of how do I salvage this food plot do I just spray it with glyphosate an just start over with my annual in the 3 weeks can I get ur feed back soon Jeff I’m in a pickle like all ur videos thx
So do you plant half the buckwheat June 1st and the other half later beings your rye and everything else on the other half is going in around labor day? Or are you just letting that half of buckwheat grow longer?
After a good rain buckwheat 5 days after planting the buckwheat still sitting on the top of the soil as if it just got dropped on top. It rained 3 out of 5 days. Is that normal
Hey Jeff I'm from Pa and I want 2 plant screening around my food plots this year wat wud b a better option heavy duty variety from northwoods whitetail or Egyptian wheat ?
Hi Bradley... definately the HD plot screen from John. Stays up longer, thicker and stronger. Late planted EW works pretty well too, but if it grows to thin and too high with a heavy seed head, it can tip over quickly with high winds...
does buckwheat provide a summer food source for the deer? and how would it do if you let some of it live into the fall and winter? just curious, thinking of leaving a little bit of it around the edge of my plot.
Hi Ryan...it doesn't provide much of a Summer food source...which is a good thing...and it provides zero Fall food source or cover. It dies immediately with the first frost. More of a smother crop and exceptional soil builder. The perfect and only seed variety that works with my ultimate no till system.
Whitetail Habitat Solutions Awesome, thanks! we don’t have much soil here in the East TN mts where i hunt, so i’m going to plant a buckwheat crop this year just to see if it can take hold. if it doesn’t do well, then i’m not out much, and if it does, i will have built up my soil for next years crop!
Great video thank you. I'm a NYS Hunter with new property. Due to this coronavirus , unable to visit property till earliest May. Would that be too late to prep/spray before buckwheat. Or should I just take bare ground into August seeding?
Hi Dan...congrats on the land ☺️ It would not be too late to prep, but it really depends on the amount of exposed soil right now. You would not have to plant Buckwheat in your area until early June. You would have time to kill and then till a couple of weeks later even...if you can. Hope you are healthy! Man I will never live in a country where I am not permitted to visit my hunting land. That's a promise...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I know what you mean. After hunting almost 40 years finally have my own property. All the planning out the window. I am unable to till, I don't have equipment.
Jeff, excellent explanation step by step. I can't wait to implement my 2020 WHS food plot program by Jeff Sturgis. One question, when you mentioned on labor day to add 200lb winter rye to the beans and peas, then brassica to other brassica side. Are you saying to add additional Brassica seed in this step also? Thanks.
Disregard. You've already answered this. I've had issues with 2,4-D in my plots. It's residual effect has impacted my broadleaf plantings in a big way.
Hi Brett! Definately never bush hog it...won't work. The instructions I give have to be followed 100% or the planting will likely fail. When my ATV broke down last year I used my truck tires. Can use car tires, riding lawn mower tires, tractor tires...very easy to crush.
Could you please do a video for those of us who have followed you diligently and had a buckwheat crop failure? I started with bare dirt and it's now July and I have mainly weeds.
Unfortunately it does not. The clover is too thick and smothers out growth. It also doesn't crush over with a cultipacker, ATV tires, truck tires, etc. You have to till the clover under to achieve adequate seed to soil contact.
Very poor on the preference scale. Even on my UP of MI property back in the early 2000s they didn't hit it that much...even when nothing else was available. Lower than beans, clover, alfalfa by far...or I wouldn't plant it 😉
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the reply. Didn't mean to sound condescending or sarcastic, just knew you would reply to a short, simple question! Thanks!
No it does not, at all. That can create an irregular thatch pattern that suffocates a high % of plants. Much better to roll with ATV tires, truck tires, lawn roller or cultipacker. You really don't need to even use a tractor in any way. Which is Tuesday's video topic ☺️
Hi Jeff, love your videos and have many questions, but I'll start with this, i don't have an atv or a cultipacker, what can I use to knock down the buckwheat, weed wacker? Thanx Jim
Hi Jim thanks a lot! Last year when my ATV broke down I used my truck tires. I have used truck tires, car, lawnmower (not mowing)...anything you can drive over it with to crush it.
Doing the No-Till System and have a stand of Winter Rye that is is now about 4 foot high and starting to produce a head in Southwest MO. I'm afraid if I wait until June 1st to do the Buckwheat that it will head out and reseed. Should I go ahead and spray it with Glysophate? Should I go ahead and plant the buckwheat? I've watched almost all of your videos and seem to be missing this step.
Hi Benjamin...I just kill it. Depends on the spring, but mine will all die this weekend...I then broadcast buckwheat on pure soil in early June. Depends on location too...we have snow just melting on some of my morning clients. Oak leaves already out on some southern clients lands. I typically kill all weeds and rye by the time they are 12-15" at most...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions, I guess I waited to long. I thought I was supposed to broadcast the buckwheat into the rye and crimp/ spray after like a cover.
If you have a grass problem, spray with Clethodim + crop oil. If you have a broadleaf weed problem, mow the clover down to about 6 inches tall a couple times a summer. Don't mow too late in the year as you want a good volume of clover going into the fall.
I’ve planted a summer blend here in Central VA: sunflower, sun hemp, soy beans. Lots of weeds popping up and lots of clover still around from last fall. If I wanted to plant a fall crop, could you spell out a 1,2,3 for me, sir? Broadcast, crimp, then spray? Wouldn’t the spray kill the seed? Thank you for your time in advance-this is fantastic content and exactly the method I want to have working on my property.
Hey Jeff I'm in Massachusetts. Looking to plant a 1/10 acre hunting plot just did a soil test whitetail institute waiting for results. I've already put down 120# of lime told them I was gonna grow oats and clover but instead, I think I'm gonna do a late august rye grain planting. But the area doesn't get full sun just filtered. Is there a clover species I could mix with it? Thanx. Love your vids.
Hi Jeff. I’ve purchased my first land in mid west NYS late fall 2019. Meadow wasn’t mowed for quite few years so its clumpy grass/weed mix. How do I start prep work for swichgrass screening and food plots?
Another question from a complete novice. You talk about glyphosate at 2 quarts per acre. When I look on line I see many blends of Roundup for lawns, for gardens, to kill ivy, etc. Which product is the right one?
Jeff great information. I do not have the money for expenses equipment but did buy a tank sprayer, hand spreader and packer max. I have no choice but to do this no till method and that’s ok / perfect for me. We will for now do a Buckwheat/ Rye rotation. For this type of method Please do a comprehensive video on how you handle lime, fertilizer part of the equation.
You mentioned spraying in mid May and then planting the Buckwheat June 1st. If you spray in mid May do you spray again when you spread the Buckwheat seed? Thanks for all the great information, I love the knowledge you share with everyone. Greatly appreciated.
I intend to plant buckwheat in sand hills of north Louisiana. I already have a three point hitch no-till drill. I'm thinking of drilling buckwheat, then spraying the rye and rape immediately after. I'm thinking the winter vegetation may be too thick to let buckwheat hit soil. What would you advise?
jeff i have a 200yard by 10' strip plot in the process of creating, going to use your system definitely. you think clover plot or should i go beans and peas? its a small plot tucked into a thick small beech and maple stand with good side cover, catskills NY. thank you
Fantastic video as always Jeff. Nobody in the business makes things easier to understand than you. I am ordering from John today buckwheat to change up how I am doing my no till. You have me intrigued on something though that you mentioned. You said that you did this for your yard up in the UP? My wife mows about an acre around our house for our yard and I would like to make the grass better. Do you do this same exact process but plant grass seed into the buckwheat at some point?
Thanks Jeff for this great video! I watched this one and the whiteboard tutorial. I’m new to hunting and property management but am fired up to learn. I’m in SW WI also (Sauk Co) and am putting this system in a level .75 acre plot. It was nearly all weeds before I started (goldenrod, hairy sunflower, smooth brome). I mowed the weeds down yesterday (DR brush mower), and want to just broadcast the buckwheat now as opposed to spraying herbicide and waiting since I got this late start. I have quite a bit of the area where I can see exposed dirt-the weeds were not super thick. Will this work? Planning on following the rest of the system to a T. Thanks again.
Hi Chip...asking as the majority of the seed gets into the soil you are all good! Also, DO NOT skip the Glyphosate...you can apply the Gly at the same time you spread the seed...won't hurt the seed in any way. Skipping the Gly will soon the buckwheat and your future planting before you even spread the buckwheat.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks Jeff. Yes, Gly not being skipped--I am doing it at the same time as the planting. I appreciate your reply and am fired up to see the results. I am planting this Friday because I saw the tropical depression coming this way today and my property is right in the heaviest rain area of WI.
Jeff, if I already have the equipment, tiller, etc would you say to till every year? What is your recommendation on that? Thank you! I am still trying to get in touch with you to get you out. I sent an email a couple times, but haven’t received a reply. Thank you for the information! I am trying to follow your food plot information for the last couple of years. I somehow missed the Urea on the Brassica. Do you also use Urea on the Beans/Pea side? Thank you!
GREAT video. There's so much information out there by guys who have access to farm equipment. This puts everything you need to know in one video.
Thanks for the video Jeff. This will be my first year following your no till strategy from spring throughout the year.
I’ve followed your videos and implemented several of your management methods along with seeding your fall plantings on my parents old dairy farm in northern NY for the past couple of years. It’s left a lot of the neighbors scratching their heads as to what I was doing and likely the butt of a few jokes... until last fall when we harvested one of the largest bucks taken in the area in probably 3 decades.
I’m a true believer. Keep up the great work.
I’ll be sure to give my neighbors a smirk and head nod from the seat of my 4 wheeler this summer.
Awesome info! So nice to see how this can be done without $80K worth of equipment
We planted about 1 1/2 acres of buckwheat on a new lease early June in Upstate New York. I thought we were in trouble as we had limited rain for a couple weeks. I visited the plot today and its thick and green. Some spots 12-16 inches. We'll be knocking it down in about 3 weeks and planting our Fall Plot. Great advice and video here. Thanks Jeff !
Thanks for another great video... I think it's setting up for a dry summer here in SE WI so this will be a method I focus on this season...we have the toys to till, but poor soil in many areas... looking forward to great plots
This will really help you out...and save you some time ☺️ especially as it relates to a warm, hot and dry summer. I'm looking forward to you having great plots too!
Ha. Vs down here in MS.. we didn’t have a killing frost last this January. 😳. Totally different world for sure
How does this only have 400 likes? The most informative food plot information available anywhere. This is something most people can implement on their parcels. Bravo WHS
Thanks a lot Rich...means a lot to me! At least it has 5-10 times more views, likes and comments than the average of other whitetail content creator vids at the moment 😁 I think it will help folks going forward for a few years to come, because I agree, it can really help most folks in most situations on their lands.
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Can I use glypho + 24D and plant my buckwheat on the same weekend. 1st time tryer next weekend upstate NY
I’ve got some pee seed so far but LORD willing I’ll get my plot in soon Amen 🙏
"You do not need to remortgage your house to plant food plots this fall" legendary quote! Trying your buckwheat no till system this fall in upstate ny! Going to try forage sorghum on the edges of the plot as a screen wish me luck !
I have a small honeyhole (less than an acre) so instead of using a clutipacker (since I don't own one) AFTER I broadcast my soybean, clover, and winter peas OR buckforage oats couldn't I just mow down the buckwheat, which will provide instant cover for my new seeds and a quicker breakdown of the buckwheat?
Thanks for all the great advice. It sounds like at 2 minutes you say '10 days later, till'.... I thought there was no till?
Also, it'd be great if you came back and videoed throughout the whole year, the same plot.
Thank you for all the specific information! Your videos help me tremendously.
You are very welcome Jeremy, that is great to hear!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751? Jeremy? 🙂
@@aaronkorsmo ha, not sure how that happened...see getting old 😁 I apologize Aaron!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Do you know where I might be able to pick up the Packer Maxx today?
Got one from Jones, Michigan. Dale said you went to his house about 8 years ago. Nice guy.
And you must feel good with all these positive comments
Of course...as always
The only thing Im asking about is the 2 QUARTS of roundup to the acre. I have one plot that requires a disking early on to dry it out. It's in a swamp. The other plots are on hill sides so no disking there. Naked oats work good for us in the south.
2019 season in texas was rough. I travel all over the state and talk for alot of people who all consistantly said the same thing. They flat out didnt see deer. The main excuse overall was that the acorn crop was like nothing weve ever had. Question is.. does a massive acorn crop have the capability of keep deer in their core areas?
Cross Plains (few live oaks, mainly mesquite) had deer everywhere. Red River county, no deer came to corn. Had to wade through acorns to get to the stand. Even hogs didn't care about corn.👍
gonna try this out for sure this year!
What about adding deer grow lime at the same time U spray to kill the weeds or when u kill the buckwheat
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Hey Jeff up in northern mn starting my access trails this weekend around perimeter of property to start my "inside out property" then spraying next weekend ,pumped to turn around the property to no pressure all deer all the time thanks for all the info keep up the good work
Gonna give it a shot this year, Buckwheat then over seed with winter food plot . I usually use a disc but I am game for something new . Thanks Jeff.
Sounds great Mark! Make sure to take the setups exactly like I say...seed I to the buckwheat, then crush and spray over top of the seed. Not necessarily saying this to you...but anyone who is reading this. I actually had someone day this didn't work last year. Come to find out they tried seeding it into a standing lawn, lol. Uh, that won't work ☺️
Good luck Mark!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 , thanks , I will make sure to do that. I am right know try to establish Switch . I frost seeded in Feb. and sprayed simazine, then 4 weeks later hit it with round up. Thanks for the guidance.
Awesome!......Post seeding: Can a guy shred the buckwheat with a brush hog or perhaps weed whacker in tiny plots or will that not terminate it?
I definitely would not. You want the stalks crushing all of the same direction so sunlight can get to the germinating plants ASAP. Also, you can just run it over with ATV tires...truck tires, etc.
Thank you for all the great information! My question is do you use urea for your Buckwheat? I'm just not getting the height that you are in your videos ! Looking forward to hearing back from you!
Hi Jeffrey, thanks a lot! I do not...I save all of my fertilizer for the late Summer planting
i'm confused on perennials like clover. when you go in the spring with such perennial, how to you keep from killing it by using 2-4-d and roundup?
Can’t wait to use this method, any particular place to get buckwheat? Thanks for everything Jeff,
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Hi JJ, 92 😁 Thanks! I can't wait for you to use it either. I juts get mine at the local elevator...feed store too.
Hey Jeff maybe you covered this but I was wondering about soil fertilizer recommendations. Plan on using buckwheat for the cover crop, but have my soil analysis for my intended fall crops. Do I fertilize before the buckwheat or forgo that and fertilize at the same time I broadcast into the standing buckwheat? Thanks
Same question.
Thanks Jeff! Could you talk about fall mix species you would pick if in a 500-1000 acre camp in 40k similar habitat. Comparable to the big woods public you talk about. What if you were trying to have the most attractive yet can produce enough for heavy graze. We are half dozen plots in your system now. Last fall was first planted into rolled and sprayed summer growth. We are now prepping for August planting and brassica and clover and grains?
Hey Jeff, Just a clarification, in my notes from a previous vis it says not to mix the 24d into the buckwheat no till because the 24d has a 60 day residual impact that can interfere. For buckwheat no till, first early spraying of with or without 24d? Thanks for all your help, Cheers!
Hi Rick...hope I didn't make a mistake in the notes! But 2-4D is about 3 weeks at most. Simazine is 60 days. Hope I didn't have a senior moment ☺️ I will use 2-4D in early May...then plant buckwheat early June.
How do you keep the birds, mostly turkeys from eating the exposed buckwheat seeds? Turkeys wreak havoc on my plots! And thank you for all the great content you provide us!
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Hey Jeff you really don’t need to remind everyone every single video that you created and invented these practices and which year and how many years you have done it, we get it your awesome. 👏
Jeff, at 9:50 you said to add an extra pound of buckwheat to the brassicas side of the plot due to thatch from crushed buckwheat plants. Did you mean add an extra pound of brassicas?
Interesting method and would like to try this next season on virgin ground. But what about liming and fertilizer. I been doing food plots in traditional ways with Disking and tilling ground while Lime and fertilizer is incorporated into the soil. Do you just leave all that on the top of the ground and if so. When would you do it. Obviously lime early But when would you fertilize and what type of fertilizer would you recommend for Buckwheat. Would you add additional fertilizer for fall planting prior to crushing and spraying. Obviously that would depend on what your planting for the fall since fertilizer would be different for clover than for brassica's or rye/wheat/oats. I have had problems with erosion and most of my land is sloped. So I am interested in this method
Hey man , I’d love to send you my cords and explain the soil to you and see what you’d suggest.
Hey Jeff, have you tried bush hogging the buckwheat after you have broadcast the fall seed? Why would that not work? If the buckwheat does start to come back a bit it will die off completely at first frost while your rye and brassicas will continue to grow. I am in western NY.
Will the buckwheat waste be gone by the following growing season? Will it eventually compile up till you can’t plant anything without tilling? I like this idea a lot, thanks Jeff.
Good morning Jeff, say what if you have tall thick clumps of grasses and weeds would you brush hog that first and then spray ?
Hi Ben, good morning! If the Buckwheat can get into the soil, then I would not mow. Since my plantings are in old food plot areas...I never have to mow.
A lot of the time it is better to let the dead weeds and grasses stay vertical, so that you do not create a mat of thatch that you end up having to disc or till into the ground.
It really books down to if you can get the seeds into the soil for adequate seed to soil contact.
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Thanks, that'll save me some effort.
Already started spraying. Looking forward to starting this method on a couple plots this year. Thanks Jeff!
Awesome Jim...enjoy the process! Nice to have an early start too ☺️
Jeff, I have been hitting your videos hard these last few weeks. Thank you! As I stated in a recent comment on another video, I am lucky enough to have just purchased a 20 acre near Mankato. We close March 19th 2021 and take possession that day. I want to to hit the ground running. My question is this.
Do your books cover a step by step order of operations for planting small food plots?
I have a 4 wheeler, 3 nozzle 25 gallon sprayer. And am going to buy a packer Max. I assume I need to weed with 2,4d may June July. Then plan to plant buckwheat, lay it down in the fall and do tillage radish for my first year.
Just really need the step by step help, and hoping the books cover that in detail.
Thanks for all you do!!
Tony
Jeff, great vid. Being in central/southern Illinois, would you guess I’m two weeks ahead on everything?
Hi Jeff, Can you use the soil builder seed from Northwoods Whitetails instead of just buckwheat as a cover crop before fall planting?Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you for this video. I've tilled, drilled, and disc for 20 years. Weeds, weeds and more weeds! I fertilize, lime, and spray each year according to my soil samples. I want to try this NO-TiLL method. I am going to rewatch this video and follow your recommendations. I currently have 2 acres of rye which I planted last fall. I've been planting soy beans for the last few years. I live in central WV. I would welcome any information or suggestions you might offer.
You have a 25gallon sprayer, what would the formula be for a 15gallon sprayer just keep it the same? Thanks. Enjoyed the video
Hi Mark, I really hope that this video helps you out ☺️
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Can you use like a common yard roller if you can't get a cultipacker?
Is this still your preferred method in 2023?
While I always changed the seed mixes (in my green blend and brassica seed types) I am still planting roughly 90% of green areas in my buckwheat ultimate no till.
Great video brother as always and be safe out there and GOD BLESS you and your family Amen 🙏
I'm going to try it!
Have you ever planted Sorghum using your method?
Hi Jeff. Thanks for all the great advice. This is my first year trying a food plot. I've been trying to find a small tractor but now I'm going with this method. I'm only doing 5000 sf so I can do most of this by hand. In my area of South Jersey a lot of guys use turnips for the fall planting. Any thoughts on that?
Hey brother I’ve been busy putting a shower in our house ain’t had time to watch videos.im still waiting on my surgery on my right shoulder rotator cuff is tore bad nearly off the bone it’s bad plus bone spurs and another tendon under my rotator cuff is tore bad plus bone spurs to. I was supposed to have surgery April the 7th but it was postponed. I’m calling the surgery center Monday I’ve got to get it over with I’m loosing the use of my right arm slowly here. Turkey hunting to I got one Wednesday before last to.
Jeff this is Jarrett. I’m in Northern Illinois! We are trying your method this year and we sprayed like you said on areas that have never had a food plot. The areas are thick with weeds and I didn’t catch the part that we may have to till the first year to get to bare dirt for the buckwheat. I’m understanding that right that you do have to till? Is there another way ? Thanks!
Jeff,
If your spraying the buckwheat with glyphosate is it necessary to use a roller like the one your using? Could you just use a lawn roller since your spraying it anyhow?
Can you plant Clover and chicory in the same way that the peas and beans were planted in this video?
If I have an existing clover plot I want to implement this process on can I just skip the buckwheat and spray 2-3 times before planting brassicas and rye this fall? Then next year start up the buckwheat?
Hey Jeff, I planted clover and turnips this year (not purple top, it’s designed specifically for browse it’s actually a cattle graze plant) just wondering is it possible to broadcast beans or something for the fall into that? Or could I just broadcast more of my clover and turnips later on top of the existing plants? First year doing plots. The rest of the farm is planted in wheat this year and we have cattle pasture as well
Hey Jeff quick question first time food plot planter .. what would you suggest for eastern NY catskill area for fall planting seed wise .. property is rolling hills with some open areas . Will throw some buckwheat in but what else would you recommend. No AG around by the way keep up the great vids god bless.
What if you broadcast the buckwheat and get no rain? Will it still germinate? I sprayed May 1 and had bare ground. Then broadcast June 1. There were some weeds starting to pop back up but I figured the buck wheat would choke them out. Going on the second week of june now and no rain and the weeds are getting thicker.
You always want to spray when you plant buckwheat if any weeds showing...I like to target early June but I do watch the weather. Of the buckwheat seed has not germinated you can spray Glyphosate over the top right now. Even add another 20#s if you feel you have lost seed to critters.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the reply. How long can the seed sit on the ground before it's no good? I dont see rain in the forecast until June 15
I am able to access my plot with a zero turn. (This is what your talking about at the 10 min mark). Could you seed over the top of the plot, then mow with a zero turn, seed again, and then kill it with glyphosate? The mowing should expose the stalk of the weeds and existing plot close to the ground and kill it very effectively. My only fear would be mowing would blow some of the seed away but that’s why I would seed again after mowing!! Any thoughts?
I’m going to try this this season. Where do you get your buckwheat?
How would you amend the soil with this method of planting? When would you fertilize/add lime?
How long does it take to build your soil up with this method. Thank you
I cant wate to us this year. I have a question. I'm going to plant the buckwheat. Do you know when to plant beans and peas in TN?
Hi Jeff, I planted Buckwheat 6/8/2020. I'm just north of Madison Wi. It's almost 6 ft tall. Should I get my brassica down now or wait until 8/1/2020 ish
I would look to get it started. We are not supposed to get rain soon so that's a good thing as it will allow the buckwheat to break down well before germination.
Hey Jeff, are you cutting the oats out of your mix this year? I’ve debated on doing that the last couple of years, the deer are not really touching them.
Hi Ben...I'm going straight 100#s of peas/50#s beans this year on that 1/2. Still adding the 200#s rye grain later. Always tweaking the mix ☺️ I'm cutting them this year
Ok, I am going to replace the oats with some medium red clover to see what happens. Like you I am still adding the winter rye.
Hey Jeff don’t give stuff but try responding and you’ll have people watching
Jeff, I am a South Alabama wildlife manager. I own 88 acres and have been following you for years. The rut and fawn cycle is so different from most of your followers. Our fawns are born in late summer. So it is important to have a summer and winter food source. My fall date for planting is first of October. I have adjusted my planting dates from your plans and I thank you for sharing ALL of your management plans.
Lynn, do you plant Buckwheat? If so, what crop are you following it up with?
Great video Jeff, thank you! Do you add fertilizer or lime to any of these no till plots? If so, at what point in the process?
Thanks Dan! Really the time to lime is any time. Definately fertilizing at buckwheat termination time...I also typically add 75#s nitrogen per acre roughly 4-5 weeks after brassica germination, right before a good rain.
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Hey Jeff I done the No till an I guess that I’m one of those people that the deer have eaten to the ground might be 4 inches high but half of the plot I have smart weed I think it’s from whitetail institute food plot seed myself never had it until I used it once an it’s a pain getting rid of how do I salvage this food plot do I just spray it with glyphosate an just start over with my annual in the 3 weeks can I get ur feed back soon Jeff I’m in a pickle like all ur videos thx
So do you plant half the buckwheat June 1st and the other half later beings your rye and everything else on the other half is going in around labor day? Or are you just letting that half of buckwheat grow longer?
After a good rain buckwheat 5 days after planting the buckwheat still sitting on the top of the soil as if it just got dropped on top. It rained 3 out of 5 days. Is that normal
So the glyphosate doesn't hurt the seeds that you spread into the buckwheat?
No, Glyphosate doesn't hurt any seeds because it is a post emergent. Meaning the plants have to be growing to kill them...
Hey Jeff, have you ever had any luck, weed eating the standing buckwheat, or does it need to be crushed?
Hey Jeff I'm from Pa and I want 2 plant screening around my food plots this year wat wud b a better option heavy duty variety from northwoods whitetail or Egyptian wheat ?
Hi Bradley... definately the HD plot screen from John. Stays up longer, thicker and stronger. Late planted EW works pretty well too, but if it grows to thin and too high with a heavy seed head, it can tip over quickly with high winds...
does buckwheat provide a summer food source for the deer? and how would it do if you let some of it live into the fall and winter? just curious, thinking of leaving a little bit of it around the edge of my plot.
Hi Ryan...it doesn't provide much of a Summer food source...which is a good thing...and it provides zero Fall food source or cover. It dies immediately with the first frost. More of a smother crop and exceptional soil builder. The perfect and only seed variety that works with my ultimate no till system.
Whitetail Habitat Solutions Awesome, thanks! we don’t have much soil here in the East TN mts where i hunt, so i’m going to plant a buckwheat crop this year just to see if it can take hold. if it doesn’t do well, then i’m not out much, and if it does, i will have built up my soil for next years crop!
If you have a couple acreage that you want to make into a food plot with a no till design. Whats the steps . What do you spray to kill the weeds
Great video thank you. I'm a NYS Hunter with new property. Due to this coronavirus , unable to visit property till earliest May. Would that be too late to prep/spray before buckwheat. Or should I just take bare ground into August seeding?
Hi Dan...congrats on the land ☺️ It would not be too late to prep, but it really depends on the amount of exposed soil right now. You would not have to plant Buckwheat in your area until early June. You would have time to kill and then till a couple of weeks later even...if you can.
Hope you are healthy! Man I will never live in a country where I am not permitted to visit my hunting land. That's a promise...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I know what you mean. After hunting almost 40 years finally have my own property. All the planning out the window. I am unable to till, I don't have equipment.
Dang...as soon as you can spray would be perfect! Hope you can get there ASAP!
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Jeff, excellent explanation step by step. I can't wait to implement my 2020 WHS food plot program by Jeff Sturgis.
One question, when you mentioned on labor day to add 200lb winter rye to the beans and peas, then brassica to other brassica side. Are you saying to add additional Brassica seed in this step also?
Thanks.
Hi Jeff. What kind of nozzles do you use on your boom?
Hi Jeff, how does buckwheat respond to 2,4-D? It's a broadleaf and 2,4-D has a residual. Curious about your success.
Hi San! You don't want to spray within 3 weeks of planting...
Disregard. You've already answered this. I've had issues with 2,4-D in my plots. It's residual effect has impacted my broadleaf plantings in a big way.
What if we can’t access an atv and cultipacker to crush the buckwheat? We were planning on bush hogging it.
Hi Brett! Definately never bush hog it...won't work. The instructions I give have to be followed 100% or the planting will likely fail.
When my ATV broke down last year I used my truck tires. Can use car tires, riding lawn mower tires, tractor tires...very easy to crush.
Could you please do a video for those of us who have followed you diligently and had a buckwheat crop failure? I started with bare dirt and it's now July and I have mainly weeds.
Would this same process work well seeding into standing clover (about 12" tall), instead of buckwheat? Thanks.
Unfortunately it does not. The clover is too thick and smothers out growth. It also doesn't crush over with a cultipacker, ATV tires, truck tires, etc. You have to till the clover under to achieve adequate seed to soil contact.
Won't the turkeys eat the buckwheat seed if you just throw them on top of the soil?
Can this be done without crushing over the buckwheat? just spraying with glyco and seed over top of the buckwheat?
I always thought that Buckwheat was considered summer food?
Very poor on the preference scale. Even on my UP of MI property back in the early 2000s they didn't hit it that much...even when nothing else was available.
Lower than beans, clover, alfalfa by far...or I wouldn't plant it 😉
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the reply. Didn't mean to sound condescending or sarcastic, just knew you would reply to a short, simple question! Thanks!
Deer nibble it but it doesn’t draw them like beans. It’s also great for bees turkeys lots of wildlife.
Would cutting the buckwheat work about the same as crushing it with a cultipacker?
No it does not, at all. That can create an irregular thatch pattern that suffocates a high % of plants. Much better to roll with ATV tires, truck tires, lawn roller or cultipacker. You really don't need to even use a tractor in any way. Which is Tuesday's video topic ☺️
Hi Jeff, love your videos and have many questions, but I'll start with this, i don't have an atv or a cultipacker, what can I use to knock down the buckwheat, weed wacker? Thanx Jim
Hi Jim thanks a lot! Last year when my ATV broke down I used my truck tires. I have used truck tires, car, lawnmower (not mowing)...anything you can drive over it with to crush it.
Doing the No-Till System and have a stand of Winter Rye that is is now about 4 foot high and starting to produce a head in Southwest MO. I'm afraid if I wait until June 1st to do the Buckwheat that it will head out and reseed. Should I go ahead and spray it with Glysophate? Should I go ahead and plant the buckwheat? I've watched almost all of your videos and seem to be missing this step.
Hi Benjamin...I just kill it. Depends on the spring, but mine will all die this weekend...I then broadcast buckwheat on pure soil in early June. Depends on location too...we have snow just melting on some of my morning clients. Oak leaves already out on some southern clients lands.
I typically kill all weeds and rye by the time they are 12-15" at most...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions, I guess I waited to long. I thought I was supposed to broadcast the buckwheat into the rye and crimp/ spray after like a cover.
Ok can you help me with this I have a little clover plot and how could I kill the weeds I’m it without killing the clover itself? What could I use?
If you have a grass problem, spray with Clethodim + crop oil. If you have a broadleaf weed problem, mow the clover down to about 6 inches tall a couple times a summer. Don't mow too late in the year as you want a good volume of clover going into the fall.
Arrest for grass slay for broadleafs neither will kill clover.
I’ve planted a summer blend here in Central VA: sunflower, sun hemp, soy beans. Lots of weeds popping up and lots of clover still around from last fall. If I wanted to plant a fall crop, could you spell out a 1,2,3 for me, sir?
Broadcast, crimp, then spray? Wouldn’t the spray kill the seed?
Thank you for your time in advance-this is fantastic content and exactly the method I want to have working on my property.
Jeff
What is the recommended % for glyphosate?
Hey Jeff I'm in Massachusetts. Looking to plant a 1/10 acre hunting plot just did a soil test whitetail institute waiting for results. I've already put down 120# of lime told them I was gonna grow oats and clover but instead, I think I'm gonna do a late august rye grain planting. But the area doesn't get full sun just filtered. Is there a clover species I could mix with it? Thanx. Love your vids.
Hi Jeff. I’ve purchased my first land in mid west NYS late fall 2019. Meadow wasn’t mowed for quite few years so its clumpy grass/weed mix. How do I start prep work for swichgrass screening and food plots?
I don’t judge but if there is way to do this without chemicals please lmk. I am willing to hire local farmer with tiller/drill if needed.
Another question from a complete novice. You talk about glyphosate at 2 quarts per acre. When I look on line I see many blends of Roundup for lawns, for gardens, to kill ivy, etc. Which product is the right one?
Jeff great information. I do not have the money for expenses equipment but did buy a tank sprayer, hand spreader and packer max. I have no choice but to do this no till method and that’s ok / perfect for me. We will for now do a Buckwheat/ Rye rotation.
For this type of method Please do a comprehensive video on how you handle lime, fertilizer part of the equation.
Hi Jeff, do you mix the 2-4D with the glyphosate? Or do two separate sprays?
Hi Rhothmen I definitely mix...very common af mix at that rate (1 pint per acre of 2-4D + 2 Quarts per acre of Glyphosate)
You mentioned spraying in mid May and then planting the Buckwheat June 1st. If you spray in mid May do you spray again when you spread the Buckwheat seed? Thanks for all the great information, I love the knowledge you share with everyone. Greatly appreciated.
Hey Jeff, with this process, how do you apply lime? Can pelletized lime be spread on the surface without following up w/ tillage?
Good morning Jeff. Great video. This will be my first yr doing food plots. Thanks for all the great advice via the web and your book!
Good morning Josh and thanks...really appreciate it and I hope that it all helps you a lot this season ☺️ Enjoy the field work!
I intend to plant buckwheat in sand hills of north Louisiana. I already have a three point hitch no-till drill. I'm thinking of drilling buckwheat, then spraying the rye and rape immediately after. I'm thinking the winter vegetation may be too thick to let buckwheat hit soil. What would you advise?
jeff i have a 200yard by 10' strip plot in the process of creating, going to use your system definitely. you think clover plot or should i go beans and peas? its a small plot tucked into a thick small beech and maple stand with good side cover, catskills NY. thank you
Fantastic video as always Jeff. Nobody in the business makes things easier to understand than you. I am ordering from John today buckwheat to change up how I am doing my no till. You have me intrigued on something though that you mentioned. You said that you did this for your yard up in the UP? My wife mows about an acre around our house for our yard and I would like to make the grass better. Do you do this same exact process but plant grass seed into the buckwheat at some point?
Thanks Jeff for this great video! I watched this one and the whiteboard tutorial. I’m new to hunting and property management but am fired up to learn. I’m in SW WI also (Sauk Co) and am putting this system in a level .75 acre plot. It was nearly all weeds before I started (goldenrod, hairy sunflower, smooth brome). I mowed the weeds down yesterday (DR brush mower), and want to just broadcast the buckwheat now as opposed to spraying herbicide and waiting since I got this late start. I have quite a bit of the area where I can see exposed dirt-the weeds were not super thick. Will this work? Planning on following the rest of the system to a T. Thanks again.
Hi Chip...asking as the majority of the seed gets into the soil you are all good! Also, DO NOT skip the Glyphosate...you can apply the Gly at the same time you spread the seed...won't hurt the seed in any way. Skipping the Gly will soon the buckwheat and your future planting before you even spread the buckwheat.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks Jeff. Yes, Gly not being skipped--I am doing it at the same time as the planting. I appreciate your reply and am fired up to see the results. I am planting this Friday because I saw the tropical depression coming this way today and my property is right in the heaviest rain area of WI.
Jeff, if I already have the equipment, tiller, etc would you say to till every year? What is your recommendation on that? Thank you! I am still trying to get in touch with you to get you out. I sent an email a couple times, but haven’t received a reply. Thank you for the information! I am trying to follow your food plot information for the last couple of years. I somehow missed the Urea on the Brassica. Do you also use Urea on the Beans/Pea side? Thank you!