I like the design of the bike and think they are spot on in rider placement on the bike. That battery access cover will be a casualty to some rocks, logs, or anything else you try to jib over when out on a ride. Overall, the bike is a step in the right direction even with its design flaw.
Hey Ron! Luckily Husqvarna thought about integrating a bash guard into the battery cover, so it should be able to suffer a good battering. We agree though, the bike looks great!👍
@@embn I think that "bashguard" will withstand nothing... looks like is made in plastic and there only a bolt and a hinge that keeps the things in place, bashing that on a rock or a log certainly will break it, looks replaceable but i don't think is the right way to place a battery cover... the solution used by Cannondale on the new moterra is all the way better.
Something to consider when I retire. Have to watch the reviews and comments and if it looks good, then on the wish list for sure. It is a great looking bike for sure. Thanks Steve for the insight into this new bike.
@@fathertime209 it apparently uses the same mount as the shimano. So I wouldn’t be supriced if it could fit perfectly. They are still prototyping though, We might not see bikes sold with it before 2024 :S The Orange Phase MX Intradrive prototype looks slick though…. The Orange Phase MX and even the Pole Voima has the added benefit with the back swing arm not having to be split up to put on a gates belt. While we wait for gearmotor combination though, a gearhub like the Kindernay is the best option.
I think the down battery " nice cover"(It is nice, but..) It's located - In a bad , Bottom Tube, where it probably will have to face rocks and stones! Prepare a decent cover shield
I've got the current MC5 and I have to say, this bike is a huge pile of sh*t. I regret that purchase so much, but can't be helped now I guess :/ I really hope that the new Husqvarna bikes will be better than the one I have :D
@@DorDor400 i've ridden 1300km on it until now. The speed sensor broke (what a fun ride back home :D). The cassette had a huge play on the hub and noone knew why. My cranks just fell off during the ride... Twice! And the motor randomly keeps turning off in the middle of my ride. Nobody knows why. Retailer has also been in contact with Shimano. They don't know either. So many problems in so little time. The list goes on unfortunately^^
@@Shagz2149 shimano motors are unfixable they software lock them if they detect if the motors has been opened even just to change a 5 quid bearing is fucking insane given the price of these things is a joke and why this channel keeps promoting bikes with unserviceable motors out of warranty must mean they sponsor this channel as no bad words about shimano and there unfixable motors becouse you are not allowed to open them up.
The access to the motor under the bb is all the way too exposed to rocks, there's only a hinge that keeps closed the battery van, there's even a bolt but I don't think is enough to keep the battery safe.
I think the battery access is a major design flaw and it will be very vulnerable to rocks and logs especially step downs. Do the designers not take this into consideration? You'd also have to lift the bike to change the battery when out on the trails. And you'd have to cover the thumbscrew with duck tape on every ride to stop it getting clogged with crud . Nice looking bike though.
Husky have changed that motor orientation just so they can get a 720 wt battery in the frame. This is then spun as marketing and a better design. That motor and cradle has a higher tilt on it and has raised the centre of gravity, will be interesting to see how it rides.
I find it interesting that you can get some of their motorcycles cheaper than their bicycles, it's crazy when you compare them, and there must be more development costs with a motorcycle compared to a bicycle. I think these motorcycle companies have realised there's bigger profits in bicycles.
Nice deep dive. Most important words [sic] “it’s all about the climb - it’s fun” I’ve watched my SL friends struggle on climbs, they never get that charging uphill feeling. No surprise that Husky understands it. More power = more fun. Interesting frame design, great for those who enjoy that aspect
An ebike is to get you up as many times as it can as quickly as you want too, so you can do more downs period, it's still a mountain bike and the fun is going down.
I think it’s a beautiful bike but I wish they would go with a combined motor and gearbox unit with a belt drive. I think that’s the future of electric mountain biking and I’m going to hold off and wait for something like that. Similar to what the orange bicycle company has brought out this year… i’m wondering if the intra drive could fit in this frame with the belt?
Dont talk pish its a restyled indian made ktm and the seats worse then the ktm, take it you havent tried to adjust chain tension yet ?! there was a design for adjuster slider rails decades ago that work fine so no need to make it 100 times worse.
It's visually quite striking. I wouldn't call it "very unique" though because unique means "one of a kind". Things either are or aren't unique, there aren't degrees to it.
Really the best looking eeb. First manufacturer I've heard to emphasize the e-bike's greatest asset - climbing! But, they really need to make the bash guard zone much more robust - it's sticking right out in the rock/log zone
Looks like a great bike from the numbers, but Shimano? What is the reason to pick that over Bosch 2022? Also very strange frame design. I guess it's a great bike after all though.
I've had a couple of different battery placements and the one on this one has to be the dumbest so far. You need to get underneath the bike, which means you need to stand it up on its back wheel to insert or remove the battery. This is just ... how did no one think to themselves "do I REALLY want to do that every single time I'm removing or inserting the battery?" You might argue that it's not a problem in your shop or your garage, but what about being on the road with an extra battery pack? Now you have to turn the damn thing on its head, JUST TO SWAP A BATTERY! It's stupid.
We are not moving forward here, Let's try another metric, what gradient range is this bike meant for and with that we can place your all-round moniker into perspective. My all round ebike would cover the range from -20 to +20 deg gradients have 27.5 inch wheels and > 67 deg head angle, that makes an agile bike. As for the motor on this bike, boring! where is the Sachs RS, if Alex wants to go up hill, give it a real motor.
I don’t see anything about this that suggests a “new era”. Whyte rotated their motors years ago to get a lower centre of gravity and to improve handling.
they finally came out with an ebike that doesn't have a super generic motor mounting setup, that looked horrid. Way to go to keep up with every other ebike out there.
Good talk from the Husqvarna guy. However, too many words around nothing: suspension really supportive...which one isn't? Motor angle position: who cares? The best bike is currently not build yet. Start thinking like Elon musk. No compromises, make all of adjustable, by complicated but light and strong engineering.
Cool, now they’re a more expensive, slower e-dirt bike with pedals, less travel and shittier suspension. 👏 and no I don’t hate EMTBs, not at all. I love them…but I love them because they look more like a bike and feel like a bike. This is going in another direction imo
I think it looks great but the entire video is sponsor/marketing drivel; loads of other bikes have exposed batteries, how is this innovation?! 😂 Lovely design but come on, there is nothing “game changing” here is there?
For some that is a good thing. After all their motorcycles are currently holding the world Hard Enduro series cup. I wish it looked the same as the Enduro bikes tbh lol. Plus they make two strokes 🙂
NOW you're in an anechoic chamber and you DON'T measure the SPL? Steve, Steve, Steve... stay away from sound. It's not your world. (Just hackin on ya, yeah?)
Think I'll stick to the bike companies that know what they're doing. I don't want to roll of a curb and have the bike frame twist and crack because they didn't know different parts of the frame are supposed to be thicker or layered differently than others.
You’re right, I’m sure Husqvarna didn’t bother with any research and development or hire anyone from the mountain bike industry to help them design and engineer the bike. They probably just guessed. 🙄 (For the avoidance of doubt, yes, I am being sarcastic!)
Nope just an advert for a bike, think Steve could sell sand to the Arabs. As to the bike not to sure I like how forward the bottom of the battery is to the front of the bike, looks like you will need that bash guard.
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Any company that still makes two stroke motorcycles gets a thumbs up from me 😃👍
I have a husqvarna mountain cross 2022, and I love it. I’ve upgraded a couple things and it’s just fantastic.
I like the design of the bike and think they are spot on in rider placement on the bike. That battery access cover will be a casualty to some rocks, logs, or anything else you try to jib over when out on a ride. Overall, the bike is a step in the right direction even with its design flaw.
Hey Ron! Luckily Husqvarna thought about integrating a bash guard into the battery cover, so it should be able to suffer a good battering. We agree though, the bike looks great!👍
@@embn I think that "bashguard" will withstand nothing... looks like is made in plastic and there only a bolt and a hinge that keeps the things in place, bashing that on a rock or a log certainly will break it, looks replaceable but i don't think is the right way to place a battery cover... the solution used by Cannondale on the new moterra is all the way better.
One case away from an expensive repair or replacement....gonna need a lawyer if you case it hard
@@jokermtb there’s an amazing pun in there somewhere.
Something to consider when I retire. Have to watch the reviews and comments and if it looks good, then on the wish list for sure. It is a great looking bike for sure. Thanks Steve for the insight into this new bike.
It's different indeed, but I think it looks nicer and nicer the more you look at it. Good job!
Looking Good! To bad they continue with the Shimano instead of the BOSH,if it had the BOSH i would have bought it as My next EMTB 🤔
This is like a heckler but much better quality
That frame for sure could fit a combined motor/gearbox ;)
Would an Intradrive with a belt drive work? I’m very curious…
@@fathertime209 it apparently uses the same mount as the shimano. So I wouldn’t be supriced if it could fit perfectly. They are still prototyping though, We might not see bikes sold with it before 2024 :S The Orange Phase MX Intradrive prototype looks slick though….
The Orange Phase MX and even the Pole Voima has the added benefit with the back swing arm not having to be split up to put on a gates belt.
While we wait for gearmotor combination though, a gearhub like the Kindernay is the best option.
I think the down battery " nice cover"(It is nice, but..) It's located - In a bad , Bottom Tube, where it probably will have to face rocks and stones! Prepare a decent cover shield
I've got the current MC5 and I have to say, this bike is a huge pile of sh*t. I regret that purchase so much, but can't be helped now I guess :/ I really hope that the new Husqvarna bikes will be better than the one I have :D
Whats gone on with it??
@@DorDor400 i've ridden 1300km on it until now. The speed sensor broke (what a fun ride back home :D). The cassette had a huge play on the hub and noone knew why. My cranks just fell off during the ride... Twice! And the motor randomly keeps turning off in the middle of my ride. Nobody knows why. Retailer has also been in contact with Shimano. They don't know either. So many problems in so little time. The list goes on unfortunately^^
@@Shagz2149 shimano motors are unfixable they software lock them if they detect if the motors has been opened even just to change a 5 quid bearing is fucking insane given the price of these things is a joke and why this channel keeps promoting bikes with unserviceable motors out of warranty must mean they sponsor this channel as no bad words about shimano and there unfixable motors becouse you are not allowed to open them up.
@@Shagz2149 Thanks for the details. Mechanical issues on a ride are very stressful. 🤬
I bought the EXC9 last fall. No issues yet (knock on wood).
The access to the motor under the bb is all the way too exposed to rocks, there's only a hinge that keeps closed the battery van, there's even a bolt but I don't think is enough to keep the battery safe.
That plastic thumb screw is going to last about five minutes, that alone is a no go for me.
holly crap this looks awesome, best looking bike I've ever seen
I think the battery access is a major design flaw and it will be very vulnerable to rocks and logs especially step downs. Do the designers not take this into consideration? You'd also have to lift the bike to change the battery when out on the trails. And you'd have to cover the thumbscrew with duck tape on every ride to stop it getting clogged with crud . Nice looking bike though.
Most other e bikes have the motor turned forwards, riding almost exactly where the battery is, I'd rather hit carbon on a log than my motor itself
@@chapmancollins3519 My Trek has a well used bash guard protecting the DU and, Trek's side out battery is great for access.
Why there are no Husqvarnas seen in Finland? There is retailer shop but still haven't seen people buying them.
Thoughts > Its a Belter and Beauty ! I love it. I want one!
Agreed! Us too Ricardo! We hope to get our hands on one, later in the year! 🤞
Husky have changed that motor orientation just so they can get a 720 wt battery in the frame. This is then spun as marketing and a better design. That motor and cradle has a higher tilt on it and has raised the centre of gravity, will be interesting to see how it rides.
Love the looks of this bike!
I find it interesting that you can get some of their motorcycles cheaper than their bicycles, it's crazy when you compare them, and there must be more development costs with a motorcycle compared to a bicycle.
I think these motorcycle companies have realised there's bigger profits in bicycles.
Can't wait to compare it to my 2019 MC6
Nice deep dive. Most important words [sic] “it’s all about the climb - it’s fun” I’ve watched my SL friends struggle on climbs, they never get that charging uphill feeling. No surprise that Husky understands it. More power = more fun. Interesting frame design, great for those who enjoy that aspect
An ebike is to get you up as many times as it can as quickly as you want too, so you can do more downs period, it's still a mountain bike and the fun is going down.
This bike rides amazingly - but I haven’t ridden it yet…🤔 Let’s see what it’s actually like to ride rather believe the manufacturer?
magnifique vélo. Belle présentation
I hope they have fixed all the issues the past bikes had, and they were a lot!!!
What do you think of the new Husqvarna MC6? Share your thoughts with the community down below!👇
I prefer the looks of old one MC6 … plus price went 🙄
I think it’s a beautiful bike but I wish they would go with a combined motor and gearbox unit with a belt drive. I think that’s the future of electric mountain biking and I’m going to hold off and wait for something like that. Similar to what the orange bicycle company has brought out this year… i’m wondering if the intra drive could fit in this frame with the belt?
beautiful as always for husqy. I own a Svartpilen 401 simply because of the looks and how well designed it is
Husqvarna certainly have some beautiful frame designs!
Dont talk pish its a restyled indian made ktm and the seats worse then the ktm, take it you havent tried to adjust chain tension yet ?! there was a design for adjuster slider rails decades ago that work fine so no need to make it 100 times worse.
It's visually quite striking. I wouldn't call it "very unique" though because unique means "one of a kind". Things either are or aren't unique, there aren't degrees to it.
I want the 120mm model, when will it be available in Canada?
Looks pretty cool. I would like to see an orange colored bocsh powered XP version.
Finally!!
Really the best looking eeb. First manufacturer I've heard to emphasize the e-bike's greatest asset - climbing! But, they really need to make the bash guard zone much more robust - it's sticking right out in the rock/log zone
Steve you always do such a great job. I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you.
I've arranged in first place 😎
Husqvarna makes the most beautiful Bikes in the Bike Buisness.
I really like the looks
Looks like a great bike from the numbers, but Shimano? What is the reason to pick that over Bosch 2022? Also very strange frame design. I guess it's a great bike after all though.
Innovative but that damn EP8 motor ugh 😩
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE WITH A GEARBOX!
Intradrive with a belt?
I like the look of it!👍🏻
These long 700+ wh batteries are such an horrible idea, hopefully they will switch back to more handy sizes soon 😏
I LOVE THIS BIKE! GREAT STYLING AND FUNCTION! I DON'T HAVE A E-BIKE, YET. I AM SHOPPING FOR THE FUTURE AND THIS ONE IS NOW TOP ON MY LIST!
Great looking bike
Super nice from us! 🔥
Surely Husqvarna realise we all want an integrated motor and gearbox, you dont see a derailleur on their motorbikes.
Intradrive or Valeo with a belt drive?
10/10
Hmmm I like the look of this thing, it looks like it keeps the weight in the right place. Really looking forward to seeing a test ride.
OK I'm a little puzzled by choice to film this in an anechoic chamber without a demo of why they did so.
looks good
I've had a couple of different battery placements and the one on this one has to be the dumbest so far. You need to get underneath the bike, which means you need to stand it up on its back wheel to insert or remove the battery. This is just ... how did no one think to themselves "do I REALLY want to do that every single time I'm removing or inserting the battery?"
You might argue that it's not a problem in your shop or your garage, but what about being on the road with an extra battery pack? Now you have to turn the damn thing on its head, JUST TO SWAP A BATTERY! It's stupid.
Just lean the bike on its side?
I think it's hard to take the battery out if you don't have a stand.
Cool bike, but that battry lock is to eksposd to rocks on tecnical trails...
How is the new extreme cross 9/10 gonne look 😍
How much? Might sell my Haibike all mtn 12 Cs.
Sorry, that's not Steve Jones . . . it's actually "Gene Hackman"! And who even knew Gene Hackman liked E-bikes?
Battery door there? Wow.
Looks good,but I would like to see you riding it.
I wish the cameraperson shot more of the bike in the daylight, not the interaction between the two guys.
We hope to get hands on with the bike later in the year! Stay tuned! 👀
on this swedish name bike they should go öhlins shocks on it !
Why did you not ride it?
Because this a marketing channel. Not a review channel.
Hey! We will hopefully get our hands on one of these later on in the year so stay tuned! 👀
I like there prototype more 😁
We are not moving forward here, Let's try another metric, what gradient range is this bike meant for and with that we can place your all-round moniker into perspective. My all round ebike would cover the range from -20 to +20 deg gradients have 27.5 inch wheels and > 67 deg head angle, that makes an agile bike. As for the motor on this bike, boring! where is the Sachs RS, if Alex wants to go up hill, give it a real motor.
How are they producing a 2022 bike with such dated geometry ?
I don’t see anything about this that suggests a “new era”. Whyte rotated their motors years ago to get a lower centre of gravity and to improve handling.
I like except of the Shimano motor, would be nice to see a Yamaha but I guess that would be a conflict if interest for Husqvarna...
crazy high pricing
they finally came out with an ebike that doesn't have a super generic motor mounting setup, that looked horrid. Way to go to keep up with every other ebike out there.
and someone is trying appease their sponsors too.
I love the direction that Husqvarna take, never followers, only downside would be weight, sub 20kg please
Looks cool but way too overpriced
i love huskies shame there's a ktm in back ground
more like trash testing room :D sorry but its not even close to high end emtb
A game changer it is not ! Detail fault how do you get the battery in from the floor ? without a stand?
OMG that cover is going to snap like a twig in any real mtb riding. It's right where you bash the bike on trees and rocks.
Good talk from the Husqvarna guy. However, too many words around nothing:
suspension really supportive...which one isn't?
Motor angle position: who cares?
The best bike is currently not build yet. Start thinking like Elon musk. No compromises, make all of adjustable, by complicated but light and strong engineering.
Lol.. is this a mix of santa cruz and specialized?
Cool, now they’re a more expensive, slower e-dirt bike with pedals, less travel and shittier suspension. 👏 and no I don’t hate EMTBs, not at all. I love them…but I love them because they look more like a bike and feel like a bike. This is going in another direction imo
What is that
Nice bike but I’ll bet it’s gonna cost 7k +
Sorry...just nope!😝
You lost me at shimano EP8
I think it looks great but the entire video is sponsor/marketing drivel; loads of other bikes have exposed batteries, how is this innovation?! 😂 Lovely design but come on, there is nothing “game changing” here is there?
Looks too chunky - approaching the look of a motorbike...
For some that is a good thing. After all their motorcycles are currently holding the world Hard Enduro series cup. I wish it looked the same as the Enduro bikes tbh lol. Plus they make two strokes 🙂
EP8 MOTOR PURE CRAP RATTLE BOX 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A ktm
You really need to ride the bike before you can recommend it. Could be a pile of poo.
Waiting for Elon Musk do the best ebike soon 😁💯🎊🎊🙏🏻
Haha! A Tesla E-MTB would be interesting. 😅
@@embn so Elon is buying everything in the world.. Twitter vs… I am waiting him to reveal an impressive e-bike 😁😎💯💯💥💥
Then the reliability will be an issue…
NOW you're in an anechoic chamber and you DON'T measure the SPL? Steve, Steve, Steve... stay away from sound. It's not your world.
(Just hackin on ya, yeah?)
Naja sieht nicht gut aus für ein fully
😕
So very Uggly. And that motor Ep8...weaker uphill and more noise downhill, than the rest.
Nothing for me.
The design is crap with a overhang battery so ground clearance is crap and hitting logs etc so sod battery vibration.
How are Shimano getting more and more manufacturers to use their unreliable unserviceable motor?
They must be giving them away....
Maybe people want the gear sets and they do a package deal
Think I'll stick to the bike companies that know what they're doing. I don't want to roll of a curb and have the bike frame twist and crack because they didn't know different parts of the frame are supposed to be thicker or layered differently than others.
You’re right, I’m sure Husqvarna didn’t bother with any research and development or hire anyone from the mountain bike industry to help them design and engineer the bike. They probably just guessed. 🙄
(For the avoidance of doubt, yes, I am being sarcastic!)
@@Mockle07 like huffy, right?
I've decided this is a huffy with nice parts.
This designer sounds like he doesnt understand bikes
EP8 is the Russia of EMTB motors …
EP8 is worst engine on the market.
Overpriced 👎 mountain biking is not worth buying anymore.
I'm buying a dual sport motorcycle instead
Nope just an advert for a bike, think Steve could sell sand to the Arabs. As to the bike not to sure I like how forward the bottom of the battery is to the front of the bike, looks like you will need that bash guard.
Stupid design, to large battery!!!!!
All the 💩 he talked and I don't see any difference with any other our of the bunch Ebike 🤔
Just stick to motorcycles instead of jumping on the bandwagon