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I believe a piece of the pain in losing someone to S is the shock in the realization you never realized how close to the edge that person was. A secret, thin line between planning the deed and just wishing your pain,grief, depression would STOP. Thank you for your insights, they so often ring true. Ren is bravely travelling on a Hero's journey, we are fortunate to have him out there. 💙
Very well said. That definitely rings very true. Ren is a beautiful and strong human being for being so open and sharing his art with us. Grateful that people like him exist in this world.
Thank You! I am sorry for your losses. Thanks for still being here...I lost my husband to S 6 months ago. It stll feels as if half of my life has gone too. Trying my best to show our four children that life is precious. I love Ren because he expresses my feelings and thoughts. Yes, survivor's guilt is the worst...
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So sorry for your loss. Sending you lots of love and strength. Life is precious and Ren is showing that through his beautiful art. Grateful for his music.
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So sorry for your loss.
Survivals guilt is the worst. ❤️ to all that feel that.
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Agreed
you are among my favorite reactors for so many beautiful reasons. /hugs
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Yeah.. Raising sea levels. ❤ I can't imagine what you've been through. The pain moves to other people. So true. I'm so sorry to hear you've had to deal with this so many times. Thank you for talking about it! It's sorely needed. I like listening to you.
Life definitely hasnt been easy at times, but i'm grateful that i am here and in the best place i have ever been. 🙏🏽❤️ Thanks so much for being here and always taking the time to comment. Truly appreciate that.
Joe's death was part of the horrendously painful journey that Ren has had to endure. However, Ren's journey has allowed him to develop into an incredible artist who has touched so many hearts, who has given voice to the voiceless, "the Missing", who is teaching people the power of hope. Joe was a wonderful friend and a powerful influence on Ren. R.I.P. Joe
Thanks for your candid and thoughtful reaction to that one Saeed. It just struck me after listening to Ren’s “Missing” series, and reflecting upon the line in this song - “I think about that sometimes, vividly, what it felt like to look down and see tranquility” that had Joe’s body been found, Ren may not have had that purpose, that hope that his friend was still alive out there to juxtapose his grief and buy the time he needed to clear his head (somewhat) before seeing the impact of Joe’s loss on his family. I don’t subscribe to the notion that everything has a purpose, but it’s irrefutable that where and who we are today is a result of everything that has happened to and around us.
I’m glad people like Ren are still with us as an example of the power of hope.
I agree ...Every time I hear someone say optimistically " Everything happens for a reason ! " I think to myself ... " Actually no ... " I believe it's hindsight 20/20 ~ You FIND that reason ... Along the timeline of your life ... But I also understand that the phrase is subjective depending on your beliefs ...
I am agree with both of your statements. We are the product of a set of circumstances, but if these had a purpose im pretty agnostic about (somedays i would lean more to no). "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." I believe this quote is attributed to Soren Kierkegaard.
"you think everyone will be better off without you.... but we're really not" truer words have never been spoken. It's so hard.
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Hi Saeed, this is a very, very tough piece of music. The nanosharp edges of losing someone to suicide inflict cuts and scars that last a lifetime. They show up in the most unexpected places and moments. It keeps the survivor from evolving beyond the soaring pain. Ren has it in him to be so honest and show the fragility and vulnerabilties he has to deal with. A subject that is wrapped in taboo, fear or disgust. I applaude him too. In my line of work I am, more often than is healthy, confronted with victims and their 'surviving' relatives.
I too have my own history. I am lucky to still be alive. It easily could have ended years ago. It was that inner voice that cried out to be responsible and save my family and loved ones from that horror I would lay upon them. This is the message I want to spread to whoever is in the situation that they contemplate to selfdestruct. As you said, the pain doesn't stop there. It goes everywhere else. It spreads from you and damages everyone you love or that love you. It is a monster that with time affects the next generation as well. So people, when your life isn't going as it should, do seek help. Reach out and trust the hand that grabs you. Know that help is just around the corner, if you are so brave to show your turmoils. I wish all the people suffering strength and faith. Please, please reach out!
Thank you for sharing these thoughts and insights. Beautifully said and yes so important to reach out. Please 🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️
Such a tough but beautifully profound one 🙏🥹
Thank you for reacting despite knowing it could trigger sadness for you. So Sorry for your losses xxx, and so thankful you made it through your own struggles xxx
Very powerful song. Really admire Ren for being so open and sharing his art with us. Grateful that we get to hear this. Thank you!
@@SaeedReacts. ❤️ a very important track this one.
Hi my sympathies I lost one of my best friends to S...Pain never leaves just learn to live w/it. In regards to his eating issues due to all the lyme disease being an autoimmune disease Ren has Allergic reactions to most foods. His diet now consists of high protein (meat) and he can tolerate a few fruits and veggies that is it! Not sure if his current treatment will help w/that? Thanks for your reaction always so thoughtful
Something we carry with us forever. Thanks for sharing and for being here. Appreciate you ❤️
Thank you Saeed, it's a tough listen and I'm sorry for your losses... always appreciate your thoughtful comments. 💜
Very tough and so important. Communication is key with this issue. Thanks for watching.
Yes double dutch is a jumprope technique. But it also means unintelligible or garbled speech or language. So I think when he is saying.... "I see the world through Fibonacci sequence and double dutch", he's seeing the world in both a predictable order and at the same time one that is difficult to understand.
Thanks for sharing this. 🙏🏽❤️
My heart often aches to follow Joe's path, but tracks such as this force me to think about what I'd be leaving behind. It's a nearly constant tug that I'm learning to live with, and have found a few ways of letting it express itself in less than final ways (such as the piece to follow). In that light, check out Ren's song "Pocket Full of Pain"
Wrapped in her cold arms,
I embrace Despair once again,
My consort who never leaves.
With the light of hope gone,
I search for Truth in the dark,
An oracle to bestow meaning.
Staring into the abyss,
I find that six feet down,
Is only a step away.
I understand those dark thoughts and feelings. I wish I could give you the formula that got me through it. All i know is that it is possible to find that light at the end of the tunnel. There can be a chance or solution right around the corner, but you have to be here to see it. Glad that Ren's music is a support to you. Its a beautiful thing. Hang in there and reach out if needed! Not talking about it, is what gets us deeper in the dark. ❤️
Thank you Saeed for opening up this subject and 'allowing' people to discuss it as Ren has also done. Thank you also for being so authentic in your delivery. It really feels as if you're sat having a chat with the viewer. Sending you lots of love ❤
Thanks so much for this comment. Appreciate the kind words and the fact that you are here ❤️. Take care!
Thanks for another thoughtful reaction to a difficult listen
Thanks so much for being here 🙏🏽❤️
Big hugs from the Uk, a tough one but one that needs to be heard ❤
Definitely! It helps. Talking about this issue is super important. Much love ❤️
This song broke me when I first heard it. It took me days to recover from this one
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Sometimes those who have already taken that step do have those moments of silence where they can see what their actions will do to those they leave behind. I’m alive today because after putting my plan into effect I realized my little sister would be the one to find me. She was the first on due home. I was lucky that my plan was something relatively easy to reverse. I was 12, after that when I reach the point I’m afraid I will act I take myself to the ER and get myself admitted or force myself to got to a chat room, play a distracting game, do anything to keep myself safe. Being S is a feeling, a reaction to extreme pain or fear, if you can keep yourself safe it will pass.
Glad you are still here and thanks for being so honest and open. Comments like these can be so helpful to a person that is struggling. 🫂❤️
Thank you for your reaction Saeed! This song is very important for a lot of people going through hard times and you pointed out a lot of reasons for that.
Have a great day Saeed ❤❤❤
Very important and so much respect to Ren for doing this. Thanks for watching. Have a wonderful day, Martin.
Beautiful reaction❤❤❤
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Sending you a hug. This is a tough one, but he is helping people have those hard conversations. You never know who needs to hear them. ❤
Definitely very important to talk about. Its the not talking that gets us into trouble. 🫂❤️
Raising sea levels lifts all ships in a low tide - Ren
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This was a tough song. Its such a strange one at the beginning because if you just listen to the music you find yourself bouncing but if you concentrate on the lyrics it flattens you.
The second part , "for Joe" just crushes you and brings the tears.
Definitely check out rens story he just put out. You can see where alot of his lyrics came from.
It is a hard listen though.
Very tough song. Will check those out as well. Looking forward to his new project.
Well done Saeed, thanks. ❤
'Double Dutch' can also mean 'gibberish': 'language that is impossible to understand'.
Thanks for sharing that. That info was actually provided in the request , but i forgot. My storage is full 😅
@@SaeedReacts. I can imagine that. 🧠🤯
But nonetheless I'd like to fill your storage with another lesser-known musician. Sounds strange because he has 880K subscribers on UA-cam. But he is a bit special in other ways as well. I'm talking about the seventy years old Frank Watkinson from Huntingdon, near Cambridge (UK).
His music is nothing particularly crazy. It is simply beautiful, heartfelt and mostly sad. It's just him sitting in his living room, playing and singing when his wife is at work. Love it. ❤
He plays his own songs and covers: E.g. Fade Into You (Mazzy Star), Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen), Snuff (Slipknot) and much much more. He has about a thousand videos on his channel.
Of his own songs I would recommend the recently published song 'Like 1984'.
Dude, even though you filled the oceans with your tears a long time ago, it's still brave of you to take this on, man. You know Ren won't be comforting in a song with that kind of title. Come on man, gimme a hug!
Appreciate the love, my friend 🫂❤️
Such an important song. Love and light to you! RIP Joe!
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hey Ren is telling his full story about everything that happened with his health and all he done did chapter 1 2 3 and will be dropping a new chapter everyday up till may 9th when his new song troubles drops there on his other UA-cam channel Renmakesstuff
I saw that. Was doubting wether i should react to it or watch on my own. Thanks for watching ❤️
Nice insight on the changing landscape possibly leading to depression. Hadn’t thought of that and often wondered about the changing landscape in the video. Appreciate you.👍💕🦇
The world moves so fast sometimes, its not easy to deal with. Thanks for being here 🙏🏽❤️
I can't watch this usually but I'm interested to see what you say about it. Get ready for the tears 😢❤sniff
I definitely understand if you are not up for it. Sending love ❤️
@@SaeedReacts. I can steel myself when I need to. Just had to detach a little like a psychopath 😂😂❤️
Haunting, beautiful, real.
Survivor's guilt stays. 44 years on, i still have it, but it does soften. ❤❤❤ to all on here.
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My mum had a very aggressive, awful type of cancer. She was in so much pain for years. When I was 11, she attempted suicide. I remember the ambulance coming, it was horrible. They saved her and she lived another year. I know this is a very specific incident, but I wish she would have succeeded with her suicide attempt. When my brother and I saw her at her death bed, it was the worst thing we had ever experienced. She was like a living dead. I don't want to go into detail, but I know for a fact that she never wanted her kids to see her like that. I know my story cannot be compared to another person's. But I just want to give strength to other people. We have to go on living and try to be happy! ❤🤍🖤
I'm sorry to hear that / thanks for sharing your experience
; it's not a sentiment usually heard but an HONEST one ... Thank you ...
Very sorry to hear that and thanks for being so open and honest. I definitely understand and feel that. People shouldnt have to suffer for that long when they are sick. And parents dont want to put that on their children. Sending you lots of love and strength. Thanks for being here. ❤️❤️
As I think I’ve told you before Saeed with another song my best friend committed S awhile ago and then my Mom committed S (missing for 20 days before being found), 11 years ago. I hit the black hole a year later when my health started packing up and incredible pain hit and attempted the same. Hurt my 4 beautiful teens so much. Hubby too. I feel guilty about my Mom and me. This song hits hard each time I listen to it 😞😞.
You did and i want to send you all the strength and love in the world. Dark thoughts will seep in while dealing with these incredibly painful things. I am glad and grateful that yoj are still here and your family is too im sure. Its this moment right now that is important and We go from here. One day at a time ❤️
This gave me goosebumps...❤️
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This is such a powerful song and a tough listen, especially given what you have experienced. Thank you for another amazing, thoughtful reaction 💜💜
Very powerful and important. Brings back many memories. Thanks so much for being here. ❤️
Please react to the Chapters don’t just do them by urself. They are worth sharing. There is music at the end of each chapter and his message is worth sharing and talking with ur audience about.
Will consider that. ❤️
You are a thoughtful guy, cheers
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Thank you for sharing this. Unfortunately most all of us have been touched by this. It is powerful that he is addressing it by name and not mincing words on the subject. The ending gets me everytime. I cannot imagine this song without it. I'm glad that Ren did the retake and added it. Some of the best advice I have heard on this is from Dr. Jordan Peterson. - Put if off, you can always do it tomorrow. Powerful words in a beautiful song (ua-cam.com/video/zMEtTIBwEko/v-deo.html)
Powerful song about a very difficult topic. But so important. Much respect to Ren!
Hoi Saeed, mijn hart gaat naar je uit, sorry voor de pijn die je moet dragen. Mijn petekind heeft op 1e kerstdag haar leven genomen, nu 6,5 jaar geleden. Mis haar nog elke dag, maar zij heeft eindelijk rust.... fijne reactie, knuffel vanuit Nederland ❤
Hoi Christel,
Het spijt om dat te horen. Die pijn blijven we meedragen.
Bedankt om hier te zijn en veel liefde ❤️❤️❤️
Saeed.
Would love to see your reaction to his latest releases chapter 1,2,3. Great reaction to this! ❤ much love to you
Thanks so much. I might watch them on my own or do a reaction. Wasnt sure yet. Much love from Belgium ❤️
Ren talks in more detail about his experience with Joe's death in his Chapter One video. He has said that he's done a lot of therapy around that experience, and he doesn't blame himself, but of course there is still so much grief. Ren wrote the first part of this song long before it was released, but then as the release date was approaching, he sat down and added the second part. It wasn't originally supposed to be about Joe, it was about Ren's own thoughts of suicide. When Ren sat down to write the second part, he wrote two lines at a time, then got up and recorded them, then wrote two more. He usually goes back over things many times, but this time he left the original recordings as they were, which is why we hear so much emotion from him. It is an important topic to talk about, and that was part of Ren's point in releasing this song - we make it such a taboo thing to discuss that people who are hurting are afraid to tell anyone. There was actually kind of an uproar about it when the video came out. Ren commented, "Is it just me that thinks it's weird that you're allowed to have a song called MURDERER without censorship issues but call it suicide and it gets flagged ?????" So true! Thank you for a very thoughtful reaction. "For Joe" is actually more hopeful, I hope you'll react to that as well.
Thank you so much for sharing this info. Will listen to the chapters he released. Definitely an important topic that needs to be talked about. YT censorship is weird at times. Thanks again for being here!
❤❤❤🫂 Beautiful and thoughtful reaction ❤❤❤
Thank you 🙏🏽❤️
You should see "For Joe" next, and then "Freckled Angels". These three songs are related to each other.
Its definitely on my list. Just need to get back in the right headspace. These are tough listens.
@@SaeedReacts. Yeah, sure. Whenever you're ready.
🔹🔷🔘🔷🔹Thanks Saeed 🔹🔷🔘🔷🔹
Thanks for all the support! ❤️❤️❤️
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Love to you and your family Saeed… I know you were dreading this one. I’m happy you are here and I always enjoy your astute commentary. 💔❤️🩹❤️
Thanks so much for being here. All the love!
These songs do exist, and he have to change the spelling so it didn’t get blocked by the algorithmsHe was one step ahead of the game as he usually is and I wonder if this topic where he feels he was late one step ahead now. Well you’ve heard everything you’ve learned from it and freckled angels so I guess that’s good hypothesis.
Ye, youtube be weird with their rules. Songs like this are important and can help people.
I think he can finally eat salad food but he used to only be able to blend his food liquid food but even today he said if he has a food or vitamin that causes him the reaction he’s out for three days so the doctors have been wanting him to try and introduce new foods, but he’s had a hard time Doing that his careers taken off and he said he doesn’t have three days to takeoff at the top he wants to go higher, but he said until July he’s going to focus on just as health after releasing troubles. it’s a tough balancing act. He said it’s taking longer than he thought since he doesn’t want to take a step backwards now that he’s finally one living his dream to has the financial independence to seek treatments he needs. Kind of like a double edge sword. I still can’t watch the end part without getting choked up even after over 20. Views. so he added that part after he did an interview with Knox Hill. I believe not was talking about how his cousin just took his life. The conversation triggered Ren went back and added this to the song.. damn this is the second time I’ve seen you know exactly the next line he was gonna say. I haven’t seen any other reactor that even once. You really are similar thinkers, which says a lot about you because he’s a genius.
Thanks for taking the time to write this! Definitely see his point that he rather sticks to the things he knows dont mess him up so he can continue pursuing his art now he has momentum.
Double Dutch is English slang to describe someone speaking incomprehensible nonsense.
I read it was when British people heard German THAT was the term they used ; as German in olden days was referred to in Britain as ' dutch ' ; I'm thinking because of the German word Deutsch ...
@@deepbluehue3 Haven't heard that before it could be possibly the way it started
Lots of sayings we have now, their meanings are lost in the mists of time
I remember my grandparents and parents using d/dutch, can't remember the last time I said it
"Double Dutch" - Speaking nonsense; unitelligible
❤❤ Ren actually was 5 min late from his friend Joe on that night. Not his fault of course, but I can't even imagine living with that knowledge
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Heartbreaking. I saw him talk about it in a few interviews 😞
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Damn man, you couldn’t perspective movies shit I’m at 3 and I don’t even know if I can handle another one of them. Also there and watched 911 lost several friends there. Fortunately, I was a couple blocks away, going to visit my father with a policeman there fortunately lived But we didn’t go for a couple of days and he lost a lot of his guys which caused a lot of PTSD and health problems. Life is hard. I still blame myself often many years later. It is fucked up because I know there’s nothing I could’ve done if it wasn’t that day would’ve been another day but it’s hard not to play that game like you said.
Sorry to hear about thatw brother. Life can be unkind, man. Its definitely is hard, but there is beauty to be found as well. On some days we just need to look harder.
Yeah thanks buddy. You’re right. Like you said sometimes you don’t appreciate things until they are gone, especially our health! Ren did it in reverse. But that blaming yourself game is hard not to do. Hence, diazepam. lol
99% of reactors let that last section play out, unpaused. Partly out of respect for the deeply personal and heartfelt subject matter and/or because they're transfixed. Somehow I knew you'd be one of the few who paused all over it...
You know me well then
Please don't interrupt the monologue at the end, seriously. Comment after listening to it, it's just so disrespectful to the artist imo. EDIT: worded it to be less harsh sounding, my apologies.
That is a valid opinion. I just cant remember what i want to Say at the end, so thats why i do it this way. I understand your point. No disrespect meant to the artist.
@@SaeedReacts. I apologize if I came across more aggressive than I meant to be. Your comments were thoughtful and I think your reaction itself was great. I think it's just a pet peeve of mine I guess, especially because just feeling the impact of that entire ending in one shot is like a gut punch that I don't think feels as impactful as splitting it up. If I might make a small suggestion (I know you have copyright issues to deal with), maybe splitting up a bit less, taking notes and then re-running through it broken up. Just a thought. Keep up the good work though.
@@deepbluehue3 I meant it more as a suggestion, I should have worded the first comment better. I think he's a good reactor and just giving feedback, that's it.
Hi! 🙂 REN👍🫅❤
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