Building a Dutch Naval Empire [HOI4]

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  • @thedoge7743
    @thedoge7743 2 дні тому +89

    Wait… you understand navy?! Impossible!

    • @Blackandwhitecat-to5ll
      @Blackandwhitecat-to5ll 2 дні тому +2

      New here or memeing?

    • @highadmiralbittenfield9689
      @highadmiralbittenfield9689 2 дні тому +4

      There are like 2 facts that, once you know them, open up the whole new world of hoi4 navy understnderstanding.

    •  2 дні тому +3

      Spot shit, attack shit with as much light attack and torpedoes as humanly possible, repeat. It is actually really really fun in my opinion, but incredibly time and ressource consuming. Building a big ass battleship, surrounding it with a bunch of screens and let it shred the US navy is so much fucking fun.

    • @LiquidRane43
      @LiquidRane43 2 дні тому

      @@highadmiralbittenfield9689 What are those two facts?

    • @AdolfGOhomE
      @AdolfGOhomE 2 дні тому

      He even understands good comments and support on YT.

  • @nathanholland7754
    @nathanholland7754 2 дні тому +36

    You should do a full navy video, go over things like patrol fleets, battle fleets, fuel conservation, the difference between water terrains, naval air, etc.

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому +3

      Check out Hammurabi’s navy guide on UA-cam. That’s the vid you want.

  • @echo_9835
    @echo_9835 2 дні тому +29

    Belgium and Luxembourg will not do industrial focuses until early 40s. They are hard coded to do the entire army, airforce, and political branches before they do a single factory focus. It's like the smaller Yugoslav puppets. It's a scam to wait for them to do their industry focuses.

    • @AdolfGOhomE
      @AdolfGOhomE 2 дні тому

      It's a duckln disgrace

    • @bingchilling7281
      @bingchilling7281 2 дні тому

      thats weird cus my puppets when i did yugo run did do some of their industry focuses, granted they didnt do only industry but they got half of it done

    • @echo_9835
      @echo_9835 2 дні тому

      @@bingchilling7281 when you split bosnia and croatia the smaller puppets will not do their industry as fast

  • @adrielcamilo2564
    @adrielcamilo2564 2 дні тому +8

    Navy guy here:
    You may find that light cruisers with armor are pretty good, since ships take way less damage if not penned you can slap armor two in a light cruiser and it'll be a very survivable screen.
    Abou the destroyers as screening ships, they are neat and expendable but in my view if you manage to have atleast 10 armored light cruisers you can sink a lot more of the enemy screening fleet plus they may survive to fight another day.

    • @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs
      @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs День тому +3

      Another navy guy here 🤓 : I totally agree ! Light cruisers are way more satisfying, enemy destroyers just melt on contact. It's just a matter of balancing cost and resources. If I have a lot of steel/chromium, I go over lvl 2 turrets and put on armor. If I don't, I have lvl 1/2 turrets and I have light armor or no armor (they're cheap and fast that way). I also make a few destroyers with torpedo launchers for when the enemy screening is gone. And to make my fleet look pretty, I make a few cheap heavy cruisers maxed out on light attack, and eventually a few carriers. But yeah, light cruisers with secondary batteries then cruiser light batteries for the win

    • @adrianwilliams7856
      @adrianwilliams7856 День тому +1

      ​@BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs If you're playing germany how to build a navy please help
      What template you use

    • @pockyrice7418
      @pockyrice7418 День тому +1

      @@BaptisteMoreau-yx7vsCan you give us a navy template that you use? Also what are your thoughts about using heavy cruisers as a capital ship?

    • @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs
      @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs 20 годин тому +1

      @adrianwilliams7856 let's define how much you want to invest into navy. 0% investment is of course convoys only.
      Let's say 20% investment is playing subs and navs only. It can be very efficient. Just always pick the highest module, engine and torpedoes plus schnorkel, along with a good nav bomber (1940 small aircraft : lvl 2 torpedo, lvl 3 single engine, large fuel tanks, non-strategic material and floats)
      50% investment is what I call a "cheap navy", which you can do with most nations especially minors. Just design a destroyer and a heavy cruiser on 1936 modules.
      Heavy cruiser : two lvl1 or one lvl2 heavy cruiser battery. Max radar, max fire control (if you're playing germany, wait for fire control lvl 3 and refit your ships with it), lvl 2 engine, no armor, a bit of anti-air if you want (but as germany you should have air dominance over the Channel/Mediterranean). Most importantly, three lvl2 secondary batteries (middle slots on the upper bar and next to the engine slot)
      Destroyer : one lvl1 light battery, maybe one lvl1 anti-air, lvl 2 engine and max lvl torpedo. That's all, they're cheap, fast, and screening the heavy cruiser who does his part, while torpedoes wait for enemy screening to lower.
      This is quite efficient. The IC ratio (4k/1k IC) makes it necessary to have two production lines of heavy cruiser per line of destroyer (20 dockyards, times 1, 2, 3, 4)
      80% investment, which I do the most, still doesn't require a lot of research. It's basically bullding just light cruisers.
      1936 template : keep the heavy cruiser template I just mentioned, but replace the heavy batteries with lvl 2 light cruiser batteries. Fit as many as you can, while keeping the three secondary batteries. That's it. Lvl 2 light cruiser batteries are good. You can go lvl3 or higher but then it's expensive IC-wise and also resource-wise (1 steel per battery, per dockyard, makes you go from 20 steel to 50 steel per production line. Germany can keep up, but not Japan).
      Then make a spotting light cruiser : max engine, radar, one lvl1 destroyer light gun, and all the airplane catapultd you can fit. Nothing else. Put the goggles symbol. Produce 4 of them.
      With good air, the starting fleet and a few subs to bully allied shipping, it's guaranteed victory for naval Germany/Japan.
      100% investment means actively researching navy techs and investing a lot, a minimum of ~80 dockyards.
      Keep the designs I mentioned above. Produce heavy cruisers, light cruisers and a few destroyers (one line or 5 dockyards are enough for them). Put different symbols (a gun and a shield) for heavy and light cruisers so it doesn't mess with your production (otherwise each type you update one, the game will consider the other outdated). Maybe go up on 1940 cruiser modules for higher engines. Change the engine for all, then upgrade the heavy cruiser batteries to lvl 3 for the heavy cruiser, and upgrade the light cruiser batteries to lvl 3 while adding one in the extra slot of the 1940 module. You can also put armor on your light cruisers if you want, lvl 2 or lvl 3 but it slows it down and makes it wayy more expensive. It's probably good for multiplayer though.
      You can always add up to three carriers in your navy, very good if you're waiting for 1942 (with 1940 carriers). Just max out the hangar space and engine, absolutely nothing else.
      So in the end, try not to touch armor, battleship/battlecruisers, and max out that light attack. Light attack comes from secondary batteries, then light cruiser batteries IC-wise.
      Try to fight under green air, so you can put navs and not put AA on your ships. DO NOT refit if you changed the main batteries, engine or armor.
      This guide can go for anyone. How do you play naval Germany ? Play a normal game. (Max infra, civs until 1938, reach 20-30 dockyards, refineries until late 1938, then mils and dockyards) You have the navy tech you need for an 80%-100% investment. Finish the ships in production except the subs. Train the starting navy. Put one line on subs, the rest on 15-20 destroyers and infinite light cruisers and heavy cruisers. Put 10-15 mils on navs (you can wait for the 1940 aircraft for that) and 35-40 on fighters. Pick the naval rearmamenf focus here and there, but you can as well wait until 1939. Most of my naval production starts during the war, then I do Barbarossa, then I come back for the UK. If you don't want to fight the US, make an earlier navy build and naval invade after winning the naval battle. You only need two admirals : Donitz for subs and Lutjens for the main navy. Put Donitz in a separate theatre (remember to ask the produced subs to go in that theatre), and put the theatre 1 on high notifications so you know when you engaged someone. Stack all you surface fleet (no subs !!), except for the spotting cruisers. Have the 4 on never engage and patrol where you want. Put the main navy in strike force.
      Once you're done with France build airports and two radars in Northern France. Put 3k fighters and 1k navs over the Channel. Strangle the UK with subs. Put your fleet on strike force around (so you'll destroy the convoy escort fleets). If you detect ships in a port, place your navs on port strike in the airzone of the state where the port is. Then Sealion. Congrats, you won.
      Lmao this a lot of yapping

    • @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs
      @BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs 20 годин тому +1

      @@pockyrice7418 I totally agree with heavy cruisers as capital ships. The truth is you don't need battleships or battlecruisers, they're slow and expensive. Check out my designs in the other comment. I usually make 4k-5k IC heavy cruisers and 4k-6k IC light cruisers, nothing else matches. Heavy cruisers have good heavy attack, are fast as fuck, cheap, and can screen carriers. Very nice !

  • @GCVS2k
    @GCVS2k 2 дні тому +7

    navy game is so fun when you just go and and try to understand the basics, i really liked to do with the italian in mediterrean, i have spawned 1936 Destroyers with max light attack, naval bombers deploying from airbases all over mediterrean and only reffiting the big ships, didnt even bother to make new ones.

  • @Maxhydrom1864
    @Maxhydrom1864 2 дні тому +5

    I love navy videos so much it's so chill when you're watching someone do it

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому +2

      It’s kinda my current obsession, so I’m gonna be making quite a few navy vids lmao. I’m glad you are enjoying them!

    • @Maxhydrom1864
      @Maxhydrom1864 День тому

      @thetibbiesshow I'm really glad to hear that will be waiting on them for sure, been watching you for a long time, such a relaxed and helpful UA-cam channel keep going champ!

  • @user-nc7jt7fi3u
    @user-nc7jt7fi3u 2 дні тому +10

    Dude has fallen in love with navy it would seem
    Not that I'm complaining

  • @carterwebster1659
    @carterwebster1659 2 дні тому +7

    You should use the naval rework mod as it makes the ship customization more fun and you can make some other types of ships like frigates and battleship-carriers and it also makes the AI produce more ships and they are all historical (you can also set the settings for the AI to use the more optimal load out too)

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  2 дні тому +5

      Wait, that’s so cool. I’m gonna try it out, that sounds sick!

  • @ThrillingEU4
    @ThrillingEU4 2 дні тому +2

    Watched lots of these types of videos from various creators, and you for sure have the best background music, it's not even close.

  • @arfritz2722
    @arfritz2722 23 години тому +1

    Convoice have 30 HP, so your submarine fleet needs at least 30 torpedo damage.

    • @arfritz2722
      @arfritz2722 23 години тому

      In addition, an admiral can manage a maximum of three sea zones before his effectiveness decreases.
      Furthermore, in order to manage several zones efficiently, it is recommended to keep the submarine fleets small - 15-30 per fleet.

  • @theosdeimos
    @theosdeimos День тому +1

    I love HOI Navy and I'm glad to see at least one other person agrees, great video

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      I’m not the best at it, but it’s one of my favorite things in hoi4 at the moment. It’s so much more satisfying than even the largest encirclement (that might be a lie idk)

  • @starchuble9547
    @starchuble9547 21 годину тому +1

    Dude, What pc specs do you have to make it run that smooth in 1945?

  • @wastelander89
    @wastelander89 День тому

    I loved this navy video. Please do more navy games with different countries. It's so fun to watch 👍🙂

  • @studijasymrov7630
    @studijasymrov7630 20 годин тому

    Can't wait when you'll release Naval Belgium!
    Oh, I thought about harder challenge: Naval Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania without conquering before WW2 any lands, that are required for Baltic unification!

  • @bobitoi
    @bobitoi Годину тому

    Accurate, the Kriegsmarine predicted they'd be ready for war somewhere in 1941-1942 😂

  • @zork_0075
    @zork_0075 11 годин тому

    adding AA to a destroyer is a waste of time, in my opinion. Naval bombers target heavy ships or the most damaged ships, so if your heavy ships alive they will not attack your screening. If they don't attack your destroyers you can't damage them using DD's AA.

  • @nathanholland7754
    @nathanholland7754 2 дні тому

    I’ve learned so many things just from watching this video passively

    • @nathanholland7754
      @nathanholland7754 2 дні тому

      The craziest thing that makes sense that for some reason I just never thought of was moving a fleet once you’ve spotted the enemy, I thought they had to engage on their own while on patrol

    • @nathanholland7754
      @nathanholland7754 2 дні тому

      I think from now on I’m gonna build a bunch of weak fast ass light cruisers with the best radar and a bunch of airplane catapults as a spotting fleet and keep my carriers loaded with torpedo bombers and have them set up to attack when I spot the enemy

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      They technically do have to engage on their own, but you can kinda position them in the right spot to make engagement easier/faster

  • @funkymarco4411
    @funkymarco4411 2 дні тому +5

    Gekoloniseerd

  • @lionidor1132
    @lionidor1132 2 дні тому

    GEKOLONISEERD. I keep seeing videos of The Netherlands and it makes me really want to do one so I can pronounce the names correctly. This was a really cool campaign, naval is so refreshing to see

  • @grownmonk8115
    @grownmonk8115 2 дні тому

    i love the navy videos keep them coming!!

  • @greywolf5590
    @greywolf5590 2 дні тому

    A small correction. Germany and the UK meed to be close to tied or tied and both above a certain amount of score. It is isnt both 55, they can go above it.

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      Minimum is 55 for both no? Same as the minimum to go fascist is 25. Like yeah, you can go above it, but it’s gotta be at least 25.

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess 2 дні тому

    I just hope one day Paradox fixes how the ships repair. You've got a scratch on your BB, send it back to port! Your destroyer has a sliver of health left, and is on fire. Nah it'll be right!

  • @datman5518
    @datman5518 День тому

    Nice video! Also what graphic mod(s) are you using?

  • @christater5540
    @christater5540 День тому

    I know you’re mostly a vanilla guy, but you might like giving the Vanilla Naval Rework a try. I really like it as a balance in complexity between Vanilla and Black Ice

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому +1

      Someone else actually suggested that mod! I’m checking it out at the moment actually

  • @shironee_2384
    @shironee_2384 2 дні тому

    Learning from my Italian navy run that I cannot do navy without at least 1 or 2 carrier per fleet. Extra spotting and much reliable for attacking enemy screens. You could do naval CAS with AP bomb if you're insist on no TB challenge (although I don't know exactly how naval damage calculation would be if using naval CAS instead of TB).

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      I haven’t messed around with carriers yet, but one of these days, I gotta.

  • @GorbadIronclaw
    @GorbadIronclaw 2 дні тому

    Love you Tibbs, you're the best

  • @C.A._Old
    @C.A._Old 2 дні тому +1

    *remind me spongebob 2004 movie credits and season 1 halloween.*

  • @silibaka-pj3pm
    @silibaka-pj3pm День тому

    Destroyers should have torpedoes, ai screening efficiency is pretty low, so torpedoes can do a lot of damage

  • @etminan9458
    @etminan9458 2 дні тому +2

    would have loved if you really beat the allies ☹️
    Loved it anyways

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  2 дні тому +1

      By 1950, every country in the allies will be/become a major. Every nation has been spamming out divisions causing lag etc. This game wasn’t about outright capitulation, but about naval domination.

    • @etminan9458
      @etminan9458 2 дні тому +1

      @@thetibbiesshow Well ye, that's very frickin true.
      Keep the good work alive, nowadays don't see many of the content creators playing with ironman mode on... So Don't usually get the genuine vibe from their contents...
      I have a suggestion, historical Germany but with navy 🥹?

  • @SkyFlaks
    @SkyFlaks 2 дні тому +4

    Fell on

  • @wastelander89
    @wastelander89 День тому

    Can u do Italy or America next a super fleet of air craft carriers and super heavy battleships

  • @HPLovecats
    @HPLovecats 2 дні тому +1

    if there is a tibbies episode, i watch it

  • @eliaustin6952
    @eliaustin6952 2 дні тому

    hey tibby are you gonna try to post a video every day from dec 1-25 again this year?

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      Oh my god someone remembers that from last year (yes I am gonna do it, I’ve actually already started editing and recording vids for it)

    • @eliaustin6952
      @eliaustin6952 День тому

      @@thetibbiesshowSweet! p.s I love ur vids keep up the good work

  • @spiced_rum
    @spiced_rum 2 дні тому

    heck yeah, probably gonna use this as a good reference for my denmark naval games. did you get a new mic, btw? sound a bit different, more clear. good video as always

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      It’s the same mic, but I’ve been messing around with the compression/filters on it.
      Denmark navy game… sounds interesting actually.

    • @spiced_rum
      @spiced_rum День тому

      @@thetibbiesshow trust me on this, denmark navy is one of the funnest things ive played. the industrial branch allows for a ton of resources to come from greenland, a ton of building slots in both homeland denmark and the islands + greenland, and the monarchist/fascist paths allow you to get good cores on england, germany, or most of the baltic states. really fun and i recommend trying it sometime

  • @lassassindu5071
    @lassassindu5071 2 дні тому +2

    18:40 You wanted naval fun ? Shouldn't have done "Placate the Japanese". Let the Axis be at war with the Greater East Asian Prosperity Sphere.

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  2 дні тому +1

      The price reduction for all ships and those extra dockyards are too worth it. I’m gonna be doing a USA and then ussr navy game where I declare war on every major in the game, just gotta find time to record those lmao.

    • @DS-ej7zt
      @DS-ej7zt 2 дні тому

      ​@@thetibbiesshow those are exciting campaigns! Can't wait man

  • @hyprux9077
    @hyprux9077 16 годин тому

    Is a soviet naval game possible?

  • @L_trump
    @L_trump 2 дні тому +1

    How 2 navy

    • @thetibbiesshow
      @thetibbiesshow  День тому

      There’s 4 things:
      1: Speed is BIG
      2: Screens are massively important (destroyers and light cruisers)
      3: doom stacks are still the way to go (just keep your capital ships per task force under 6)
      4: subs, torpedo bombers, and torpedo destroyers/cruisers are king. Those shred. There’s a reason those are all usually banned in multiplayer. I never build those now because of how OP they are, BUT my god are they fun.
      Once you know those 4 things, then you can learn all the little things. Check out hammurabae’s navy guide on UA-cam. His video is phenomenal and has helped me so much.

    • @L_trump
      @L_trump День тому

      @@thetibbiesshowhacker

  • @oguzcanmaden4196
    @oguzcanmaden4196 День тому

    good game

  • @ashen1921
    @ashen1921 2 дні тому

    Yippee

  • @bigmunchyfinger2141
    @bigmunchyfinger2141 День тому

    I bet my newborn nephew that this glorious man will get to 100k in December 🫡🫡🫡