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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2023
  • Do you remember feeling “money shame” for the first time?
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    It’s no secret that the values, advice, and experiences we encounter as children shape how we relate to other people later in life. But less obvious is how our early experiences shape our relationship with money.
    Like other relationships, the ways we interact with money - whether it be spending, saving, or investing - can be highly emotionally charged, sometimes to the extent that we lose our control to make smart financial decisions.
    That’s why it’s important to understand where you come from before plotting where you’re going when it comes to personal finance. Doing so will not only help you plan for financial success, but it will also give you the tools to help your children develop a healthy and positive relationship with money.
    Kathleen Burns Kingsbury’s title is incorrectly cited in the video as financial psychologist. Kingsbury’s title is wealth psychology expert.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 559

  • @compaqtube
    @compaqtube Рік тому +1741

    Kathleen, I think the issue wasn’t that you loved money but that you were stealing lmao

    • @nickwondergem
      @nickwondergem Рік тому +309

      Kathleen is in denial

    • @nicomal
      @nicomal Рік тому +279

      She hasn't learned her lesson all these years later.

    • @daveangeloobico7456
      @daveangeloobico7456 Рік тому +63

      It's still the same issue. She loves money and the what made her worry I think is she loves money too much to the point she had to steal those change from her past.

    • @joelpeterson3894
      @joelpeterson3894 Рік тому +51

      Stealing is the effect, not the cause.

    • @ignacioveiga2539
      @ignacioveiga2539 Рік тому +18

      @@joelpeterson3894 yep, guess Pablo Escobar must've loved money too

  • @M4y_000
    @M4y_000 Рік тому +608

    I grew up poor and now as a adult i understood why i am so frugal, I'm really good in saving money but it's a bit toxic because it comes from the fear of not being able to afford the most simple things like in my childhood. And even now that i have enough to live well the anxiety that it is still not enough is quite crippling.

    • @julieross1984
      @julieross1984 Рік тому +35

      As a kid, I knew how much dad got paid, how much our rent was, and how much we paid for food. Granted it was a naive view, but its probably a lot more than the other kids in my grade knew, and I had no idea how much extra they were spending on drinking/smoking/gambling. Even as I'm approaching 40, I still have the "poor" mentality and the "stench of poverty" still sticks to me. I didn't have the same opportunities and experiences as my peers and have had to struggle a lot more to get ahead. I'm generally anxious and don't have the carefree attitude of others so struggle to interact with people. How you grew up with money has lifelong impacts.

    • @jeremiec8014
      @jeremiec8014 Рік тому +30

      Same, I'm not rich by any means but doing alright financially yet every time I spend even a modest amount of money even on essential things I feel like I just ruined my life for the rest of the day.

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone Рік тому +8

      It also probably emotionally cripples you from investing big, thus potentially continuing the generational poverty.

    • @joethebassplayer
      @joethebassplayer Рік тому +5

      I too, grew up very poor and have been "self-sufficient" since I was 13 (e.g. clothes, school expenses, & even meals). My problem now is I am stuck in a "survival mode" despite being "okay" financially. I am constantly thinking about and worrying about money even when I have savings. This constant concern gets tiresome and contributes to my perpetual sense of burnout... I'm 45 now and own my business and these past 3 years have me frayed to my limits. I dod not know what I can even do about it at this point.

    • @neosapienz7885
      @neosapienz7885 Рік тому

      The opposite happens even more often as well.

  • @stuflikethis
    @stuflikethis Рік тому +88

    I’m not stealing, I just love money so much
    - Kathleen

  • @lovelasnow
    @lovelasnow Рік тому +308

    If you want to talk about money trauma from childhood, I used to be good at saving money but the one lesson I learned in childhood is that if I don’t spend my money someone else will

    • @stansmith9293
      @stansmith9293 Рік тому +20

      Damn..

    • @Teribare
      @Teribare Рік тому +59

      My parents took all of my savings just to buy themselves a flatscreen tv or a coach for example during my childhood. So I understand this too well.

    • @silentladyd
      @silentladyd Рік тому +32

      As a child I would always hide money in the most unusual places and the moment I wasn't home, my mom searched every nook and cranny, and took it. Even now I'm set to save as much as I earn, but it's paralyzing my decisions, it's really hard to choose what to spend it on in fear it will disappear again. My mom still spends every last penny she has and she is always in debt with nothing to show for, no proof what she spends on, and we have the same income.

    • @lovelasnow
      @lovelasnow Рік тому +3

      @@silentladyd i feel your pain, the best you can do is take a break from her. Depending on your family situation it could be as simple as leaving the phone on silent( my phone was stuck on silent for half a year, I honestly didn’t know it was), what I’ve found is that those kinds of people can find money no matter what. Or as long as you move away from where your parents can see what you’re doing, just claim to be flat broke, it helps if you have a hobby that’s distracting that you can tell them you’ve taken up, like sewing or gardening (they can get expensive). And if you’re really stuck on what to spend take a day to have a walk through a mall or thrift store or flea market, you don’t need to buy anything just take a picture of whatever made you happy or excited during your trip and learn more about it

    • @Zoooooooooooo
      @Zoooooooooooo Рік тому +1

      @@Teribare W parents

  • @stevenhill3136
    @stevenhill3136 Рік тому +438

    I'm forever grateful for my father telling how to never pay interest on credit cards when he said; "'Never spend more money than you have and always pay the bill on time"' Thank you Dad!

    • @ZZ-qy5mv
      @ZZ-qy5mv Рік тому +19

      A high school teacher did that for me. I always wondered if he snuck that one week long finance lesson in the curriculum himself.

    • @liquidmagma
      @liquidmagma Рік тому +7

      It's amazing the number of people that didn't or WON'T learn that simple lesson.

    • @adaharrisonn
      @adaharrisonn Рік тому +20

      @@liquidmagma it's amazing how many people don't realize how less and less possible it is to follow those parameters in the real world.

    • @14534
      @14534 Рік тому +1

      Mine always said ‘pay yourself first’

    • @liquidmagma
      @liquidmagma Рік тому +5

      @@adaharrisonn No, it's amazing how undisciplined and childish the entitled crowd is in the real world.

  • @ibefilmin
    @ibefilmin Рік тому +164

    "The Love of Money, is the root of all kinds of evil" is the actual quote. People always forget the Love part. Money isn't the root. The Love for Money is.

    • @RayoAtra
      @RayoAtra Рік тому +14

      however loving money is the systemic result under the structure of our current socio economic thinking.

    • @ibefilmin
      @ibefilmin Рік тому +5

      ​@@RayoAtraGreed is powerful, I have seen homeless give their only dollar to another person while the wealthy just ignore the needy. It's like once you have money, you don't want to not have it. If you never had money, it only seems like a roadblock to happiness. Not sure if we have been taught to love it or want it, or maybe both.

    • @FabioEste94
      @FabioEste94 Рік тому +4

      Kathleen from this video doesn't approve

    • @quillsoul
      @quillsoul Рік тому

      YES

    • @alfredfritz4659
      @alfredfritz4659 Рік тому

      Yeah it's from the Bible btw. 1 Timothy 6:10.

  • @judithhenry4567
    @judithhenry4567 Рік тому +28

    Please I need help, I’m tired of scammers online

  • @WOWDOWN
    @WOWDOWN Рік тому +51

    “A smart person learns from their mistakes, a wise person learns from the mistakes of others.”

    • @es8117
      @es8117 Рік тому +1

      Feeling your mistakes is better.

    • @VideoGameStormers
      @VideoGameStormers Рік тому +5

      A wise person learns from experiences. Your mistake can be internalized and make you wiser. A smarter wise person can do the same from other's mistakes, but an even smarter wise person looks for what others do to succeed.

  • @jayyzee5708
    @jayyzee5708 Рік тому +149

    ‘You love so much that you want to keep it’
    Yeah.. no, the clear message was to not steal/keep someone else’s money for yourself

    • @o2lawesomeness625
      @o2lawesomeness625 Рік тому +22

      the only comment stating this lol yeah that woman is nuts LOL

    • @a0um
      @a0um Рік тому +13

      I find that rationalization contrived but maybe
      1. at a young age the distinction between what’s “mine” and “my mother’s“ is not quite clear
      2. we don’t know what her mother actually told her, perhaps her mother really gave her some weird message

    • @adaharrisonn
      @adaharrisonn Рік тому +2

      This is pretty bogus.

    • @samgould8567
      @samgould8567 Рік тому +9

      Someone so seemingly out of touch probably obtained their views at an early age. I’m guessing that this woman’s mom was actually greedy and passed on a message of “what’s mine is mine” instead of “taking or withholding any person’s money without their permission is immoral.”

  • @em-mg7mf
    @em-mg7mf Рік тому +193

    I wasn't taught about personal finance in school but my history teacher used to tell my class the birth of money in middle school. That story changes the way how I view money completely. It is something we trade for stuffs we need to improve our health, relationship and more. It is not valuable itself, the way you spend it is.

    • @GothBatty
      @GothBatty Рік тому +5

      JP Morgan took finance out of school. 😏💵🏦🏧

    • @charitymasango2649
      @charitymasango2649 Рік тому

      Love this

    • @charitymasango2649
      @charitymasango2649 Рік тому +3

      @@GothBatty makes cents... The cents we make/earn in comparison

    • @jordanb.4514
      @jordanb.4514 Рік тому

      @@GothBatty source? a quick google search shows nothing

    • @GothBatty
      @GothBatty Рік тому

      @@charitymasango2649 😄

  • @nicoferrari8
    @nicoferrari8 Рік тому +225

    I was raised in a middle class family, and like most middle class families is the last couple of decades, sometimes we had to cut our expenses, other times we could afford more things, for example a game console, new tv, etc. And my main take away from all of that is to understand the proper value of money, understand that money is just a tool, a tool that you should take care of but not to the point of being something you "love'' or are afraid of, it should not be the center of your life. At the end of the day money a is a tool to help us get through life, nothing less, nothing more. And like any tool it, doesn't work for everything.

    • @doc-aj7842
      @doc-aj7842 Рік тому

      I think it's become tool only when you have certain amount of it to be actually be philosophical about it(money) ........ If you don't cross that threshold it all bs theory of moral high ground... The whole video of above clip is - to help in overcoming biases not to re-inforce of One own borrowed belief .

    • @alinstoi
      @alinstoi Рік тому +2

      Well said!

    • @NoJokesHere
      @NoJokesHere Рік тому +8

      Spoken like a true poor man. Yeah I'm in that same boat so I see your statement for what it is.....a coping mechanism. None of us like the shit we're stuck in.

    • @rfdiego777
      @rfdiego777 Рік тому +3

      100% agree, if you make your life about money itself, it will be a boring insignificant one

    • @rfdiego777
      @rfdiego777 Рік тому +16

      @@NoJokesHere it's not a coping mechanism, it's about understanding the things that give value to your life. For the real poor people I understand money is important because they have needs they can't satisfy, but once you have a decent life, more money won't add a lot to that, it will become just an unhealthy obsession

  • @mindfulnesswithmatt
    @mindfulnesswithmatt Рік тому +261

    Our relationship with money is so plagued with fear because we weren't taught financial literacy at home and in school. We need to heal that relationship and make more value of money rather than just making more of it. A great series, thank you

  • @thomasseichter5670
    @thomasseichter5670 Рік тому +31

    How broken is Kathleens analysis of her love to money? She thinks the message of her mother was that love for money is a shame, whereas she should be ashamed of taking money that doesn't belong her. But great to hear that she overcame that shame of taking money that's nor hers, now that she is in a position of power as Entrepreneur.

    • @richardmccabe2392
      @richardmccabe2392 Рік тому +8

      Keep in mind her impression of being scolded for keeping the nickel was cemented when she was a child, and most likely unconsciously influenced her decision making around money as she grew into an adult. It's possible her mother didn't communicate clearly enough why it was wrong to keep the nickel but just scolded her for keeping it.

    • @thomasseichter5670
      @thomasseichter5670 Рік тому

      @@richardmccabe2392 that why I said her analysis is broken, not the actual relationship.

    • @ravecrab
      @ravecrab Рік тому +2

      How is an entrepreneur a position of power?

  • @jaspershepherdsmith9047
    @jaspershepherdsmith9047 Рік тому +56

    This Kathleen lady is balls-to-the-wall insane. 'I stole money from my mom and she got mad, so I grew up thinking that my love of money is shameful'. Absolutely demented.

    • @SUPERFUKINGAWESOME
      @SUPERFUKINGAWESOME Рік тому +5

      ''Absolutely demented'' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA🏆

    • @La0bouchere
      @La0bouchere Рік тому +9

      I think you and a lot of others missed the point. Children don't think perfectly rationally, and draw incorrect conclusions if they're punished without perfectly understanding why. If a child wants something, takes it, and gets yelled at, they'll definitely think the problem is them wanting the thing.
      She just forgot that she needed to spoon feed even the most simple points to keep a youtube audience on track, so she didn't go into it.

  • @eduardopadilla1307
    @eduardopadilla1307 Рік тому +13

    as a teacher, my recommendation to parents is make it a habit to randomly explain things to your kids, like how you´re making your taxes when they find you late at night working on them, or why doors creak when they complain that their door makes too much noise, how hospitals make money when you go to check something, why you never reach the rainbow, how traffic lights work, who's that guy whose name is in the street you're on...... the worst that can happen is that they learn something that's never going to come up in life again

  • @ScottiveNatish
    @ScottiveNatish Рік тому +254

    This is a tough subject for most. Whether you agree with every point or not, this is a great conversation starter. Money loses its power and mystique when you discuss it rationally...especially with the intention of understanding it more. I noticed in the comments there are many like me who never had any conversations about money with anyone in the family. In my case, it was because they didn't have a clue either. In reference to the trauma in the title, money (or rather the lack of) has traumatized some folks. Yet here we are. In the age of information. If we're still functioning, we can learn and improve upon today. No one is going to learn it for us. I mean, do we want them to chew our food for us too?? Stop blaming. Stop shaming. There are a lot of people who have overcome some wicked adversity. We can too. Or not. Up to us.

    • @rg1283
      @rg1283 Рік тому +2

      Damn right!

    • @happyliving1922
      @happyliving1922 Рік тому

      We can blame the economy for allowing the rich to boost profits off a pandemic while the rest of us get poorer.

    • @lolodaloco6385
      @lolodaloco6385 6 місяців тому

      Thank you

  • @CAT-zc8xs
    @CAT-zc8xs Рік тому +52

    My parents were terrible with money saw how they struggled my entire childhood. So I learned to do the opposite of whatever they do. It’s worked out great!

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Рік тому

      ... and oddly, you have them to thank for that. So they did their job!

    • @blackaugust2035
      @blackaugust2035 Рік тому +1

      yeah sometimes its better to learn how to avoid being them !!!

  • @ikemadi6265
    @ikemadi6265 Рік тому +50

    I was expecting some advices for people who have financial trauma already and I was disappointed

    • @pedrova8058
      @pedrova8058 Рік тому +6

      message of the day: it doesn't matter if you keep money that is not yours, let no one diminish your love for it xDDD

    • @iforget6940
      @iforget6940 Рік тому

      @pedrova8058 hey I have a couple of ak47s do you wanna rob a bank maybe together

  • @christinapomponio6452
    @christinapomponio6452 Рік тому +3

    After hearing how Kathleen didn't and clearly still don't understand that stealing was the problem I would not take ANY financial advice from her.

  • @SN-sz7kw
    @SN-sz7kw Рік тому +80

    Financial literacy can take generations to develop. My parents had close to zero. I’ve done well, but learned a lot the hard way. I still carry my parents’ sense of inferiority & fear of overreaching. Hoping my daughters will be way ahead of me. At 19, my eldest talks about building “family wealth” in terms of our property investments. I sense she’s broken free of the family past. 🤞🤞🤞

    • @N0Xa880iUL
      @N0Xa880iUL Рік тому +10

      Agreed. It's a generational effort.

    • @jmvwegnerpriest
      @jmvwegnerpriest 3 місяці тому

      Awesome, sounds like you successfully broke the money trauma cycle!👍♥

  • @joycewright5386
    @joycewright5386 Рік тому +9

    My sister and I grew up very poor. As an adult I have always lived beneath my means and followed a budget. My sister on the other hand bought everything she could because “ you only live once”.

  • @thehollowbible
    @thehollowbible Рік тому +42

    This video had me thinking about my own money story. I remember being a 10 year old with like $80 in my piggy bank and my mom eventually asking me if she can use it. She paid me back only after a while. It was hard for her as a relatively new single mom but to this day I have trouble saving because I subconsciously don’t see a point to it.

    • @sepoker
      @sepoker Рік тому +8

      that’s just projection

    • @konstaConstant
      @konstaConstant Рік тому +5

      @@sepoker yes, nothing to see here. Just *projection*

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 Рік тому +17

    My dad was paranoid about money because he didn’t have any growing up poor.
    This made me paranoid about it as well. I don’t have alot of money but I’m not poor but still worry about money.

  • @elisethethird3248
    @elisethethird3248 Рік тому +19

    My mother's father was addicted to gambling. Sometimes the family had a lot of money thanks to this, and sometimes it was all lost. My mother always had a sense that nothing she can do has power to earn money - she always tried to find ways to leech it off of other people rather than earn it herself. When she made a bit, she would immediately spend it on expensive food and objects that oftentimes she didn't even need, and then when it was running out she was saving every penny. She never acknowledged her role in that, she would always just say "God gave money, god took the money away".
    Today, I have a lot of financial anxiety. I constantly feel like I'm going to lose everything, like it's just a matter of time before I end up on the streets no matter how hard I work. I dream of a sense of stability but I realize that it will only come after death

    • @jmvwegnerpriest
      @jmvwegnerpriest 3 місяці тому

      Maybe you can break the cycle for your children (if you have or will have/want them). I try to for our son, all those unhealthy ideas stuck in me from childhood, whenever I am aware of them I just pretend I am someone else. Someone calm and non-neurotic. He’s worth it and I find it works, he already feels much better about himself than I ever did. No shaming is so important, about money or anything else.
      @elisethethird3248. Your anxiety is a natural result of your unpredictable childhood. You sound very sensible and will be fine! Love and courage to you♥💕

  • @kevinpopescu9741
    @kevinpopescu9741 Рік тому +17

    I'm pretty happy about how my parents handled that. As a child I got coins and scraps and was encouraged to pile them up. I really liked how shiny they were and to look at them but didn't even really what their purpose was yet. Then one day, my parents dumped a bit of cash on the table (so it was relatable to me) to count it before going to the bank and invited me to do the same and helped me to count it effectively. And then we got to the toystore and I could afford that one dinosaur I've been eyeing for so damn long it was the best 😭😭😭

  • @YouGuessIGuess
    @YouGuessIGuess Рік тому +47

    If the people who make the most money had any shame about what they're willing to do to get it, the rest of us wouldn't have to worry so much about making enough money to survive.

    • @jmvwegnerpriest
      @jmvwegnerpriest 3 місяці тому

      I don’t know, people are so complex, sometimes they can come across as lazy. I have observed in my in-laws their family stories about being poor and how everything is so unfair. When I compared it to my own grandparents (as they were a greater example than my own parents), I saw my also really poor grandparents do so well in comparison. The difference? My grandparents were super grateful for every opportunity to make money and meet their own needs, with really tough labour-intensive jobs. Complaining wasn’t part of their psyche. I always thought if my in-laws spent those hours working instead of complaining, they would already be plugging those financial holes real fast.
      So I’m not trying to say poverty doesn’t put people at a great disadvantage, but there is definitely a variety of degrees of motivation of people willing to work hard.

  • @61CatLady14
    @61CatLady14 Рік тому +9

    I can relate to the one story. My family was "less than middle class" and we never had enough money. As a result, I'm always worried about money. I constantly think about my budget and try to save as much as I can. Next month I will start getting more money and all I can think about is how much I can save.

  • @QueenD75172
    @QueenD75172 Рік тому +7

    Omg. That anxiety is so real despite the fact that I now earn enough and learned good financial habits. Yet, I constantly plan towards a time when I earn less, not enjoying that I am doing well right NOW.

  • @nabzy28
    @nabzy28 Рік тому +12

    I had a shop teacher (yes, SHOP teacher) in middle school that had us pick stocks and track their value over the school year. It piqued my interest in financial markets and, probably, set me up for the success that I've had in life to this day. Zero debt. Will have a home paid off about 12 years early and a job that allows for plenty of time for hobbies and relaxing. Minimal stress. All before mid-40's. I also had learned and observed both my parents and grandparents handling of finances and reasoned out the lessons from both quite a long time ago. Good video to explain and lay out the reasons why people need to have conversations and thoughts about this subject as early as possible.

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    @redvertex333 Рік тому +8

    people beware , the comments section full of scams

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    @Yah207 Рік тому +43

    I always end up watching the videos of Big Think feeling empty-handed. You give a great title that is like a point to the topic, but when i dive deeper in the video i don't find what i am looking for (the purpose that is formed after reading the title and which i am supposed to get after watching the video, is missing).
    Can I get the chance to know how to benefit as much as I can from your videos?

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      I noticed it a year or two back and since then avoid most videos from them. Its over-sensationalized titles/videos with the over the top music while the content itself is of little substance and sometimes not delivering on the title at all. Clickbait through and through.

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      @Yah207 Рік тому +3

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      This matters actually

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      @Yah207 Рік тому +1

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  • @ObservingBlue5943
    @ObservingBlue5943 Рік тому +17

    "Paychecks are the chain that keep you from achieving your dream."
    I just wish I could implement that in my life!

    • @toonnaobi-okoye2949
      @toonnaobi-okoye2949 Рік тому +13

      That's just hustle propaganda.

    • @blaisetelfer8499
      @blaisetelfer8499 Рік тому

      It doesn't make any sense. Paychecks are how you're compensated for your work; without being paid you won't have enough money to chase your dream.

    • @ObservingBlue5943
      @ObservingBlue5943 Рік тому

      @Blaise, I would disagree. When people get continuous paychecks they just live their life with the paychecks only. Not many people would leave their paychecks and start working on their dreams. And most of the time you can't realise your dreams with the paychecks.

  • @singularityscan
    @singularityscan Рік тому +7

    My parents are old hippies(now), so i guess i got there value's.
    I hate money, and what it is doing to us. We can only make or build things that earn more than you spend. Money removes us from the suffering we cause others, laying in a swimming pool with a dink all seems fine, but far away people die of hunger(some times even really close together).
    I don't want to introduce my child to the limitations and cruelty of money, and absolutely not at that early age.

    • @liquidmagma
      @liquidmagma Рік тому +1

      So you condemn your child to being poor. Nice.

  • @msigurko
    @msigurko Рік тому +48

    This needs to be taught to everyone planning on bringing kids to this world.

    • @Bunny-ch2ul
      @Bunny-ch2ul Рік тому

      There's A LOT that needs to be taught to everyone planning on having kids. I'm always disgusted that people don't plan better all around. Like, you had nine months to read up on developmental psychology, make an investment plan, discuss parenting strategies, talk about how you'd take care of a kid with potential disabilities, etc. and you just wasted that time decorating a nursery and having baby showers. Parents who say, "my parents did that, and I turned out fine" are *UNIVERSALLY* bad parents. If you're not going to strive to do better than your parents did, don't bother having kids.
      Unless you're running a Fortune 500 company, creatively fulfilled, able to travel as much as you like, extremely well rounded, have nothing but excellent, healthy relationships, and have exactly the work/life balance you want, there's room for improvement. No one is expecting perfection, but for god's sakes, do some research, plan, and always strive for better.
      Ten years of working with kids made me really love kids, and just hate parents. There are so many resources now, and unlike thirty years ago, there's a pretty good consensus on what's correct, developmentally appropriate, healthy, etc. Not availing yourself to them is just plain lazy and ignorant.

  • @peachnecctar1658
    @peachnecctar1658 Рік тому +31

    i definitely have money anxiety. i make 6 figures a year but its been instilled in me as a kid that money can go in the bat of an eye and there's always bad things that happen. its been really hard to try to get myself out of those thought patterns

    • @jonathanz.9675
      @jonathanz.9675 Рік тому +6

      Well it still can, but it’s a small probability. How you spend that money improving your and other’s lives is just as valuable and totally irreplaceable as well though

    • @N0Xa880iUL
      @N0Xa880iUL Рік тому +3

      That's not necessarily bad. And you can still hold those beliefs while not being anxious due to them.
      Suppose you learn about saving money, keeping a portion aside, investing, etc.
      Once you start applying and make a habit there's nothing else to worry.
      Now if you still worry then you are afraid of losing everything you have in a freak incident.
      You need to let go of control, beyond what you've done to counter it. Forget about the outcome, because you've done all that you can.
      Also it's not wrong that parents instilled that into you. Instead think what if you had not known the risks and didn't prepare either? Obviously worse right

    • @N0Xa880iUL
      @N0Xa880iUL Рік тому +2

      @@michaelhowington4205 No money and no anxiety is statistically almost impossible anyway.

    • @elijahhernandez906
      @elijahhernandez906 Рік тому

      @@N0Xa880iUL youre right, money does buy basic needs such as security, food, shelter, however its really easy to get sidetracked & go on a spending spree. (Been there done that) :)

  • @Daydreamerr13
    @Daydreamerr13 Рік тому +2

    All this video taught me is get more money , period. That’s all it boils down to.

  • @kaustos
    @kaustos Рік тому +3

    Financial skills are not hereditary, money is not natural. Money management is an intellectual game, not epigenetics. We fail at teaching children the value of their labor - what their body and mind is worth and how it is their only one. When someone does not understand their own worth they cannot play the money game at all, many have an overinflated sense of worth, and many incorrectly think they are worthless. How incredible to frame grandpas distrust of the bank as a character flaw when the banks are what failed.

  • @melodeendigaye
    @melodeendigaye Рік тому +6

    Hahahaha "we're middle class but lower - yea mum they've got words for that!" 😅 This was so insightful. Absolutely enjoyed this!

  • @artaizen1613
    @artaizen1613 Рік тому +1

    my parents always says kids should not worry or think about money
    until suddenly they bombshelled me with "we are not rich"
    thanks for the explanation

  • @empty_bliss1877
    @empty_bliss1877 Рік тому +14

    I remember my younger brother would charge my parents interest if they borrowed money from him and my dad would say wow that's a smart idea son and would pay him back but my mom would get so angry about the idea of having to pay him back no matter what the amount is. She basically guilts all of us into giving her money and we don't even know where the money goes.

    • @libelulangel
      @libelulangel Рік тому +1

      I think it’s fairly ok to give your parents money without expecting them to pay you back if you can afford it and if it’s reasonable amounts

    • @blackaugust2035
      @blackaugust2035 Рік тому +1

      @@libelulangel and that's called robbery

  • @chriscook2479
    @chriscook2479 Рік тому +7

    Beware that you don't sell all of your time for money. Rather give it away to the ones that truly value it. If you do that properly then you will know what it is to be abundantly rich.

  • @ClassyGameRacer
    @ClassyGameRacer Рік тому +16

    Transgenerational education played a big role in shaping up the children financial's education. The core values you wanna pass down to them is definitely based on the the narrative u want to tell your children.

  • @jamesanderson2176
    @jamesanderson2176 Рік тому +2

    What I worked to teach my children, and still repeat to them as adults, is, "You only get to spend each dollar once". I am extremely frugal (sometimes downright cheap) on many things, so that I can spend freely on the things that matter to me. Money is a tool. Use it skillfully.

  • @camman408
    @camman408 Рік тому +2

    I feel very fortunate to have stumbled into a career of personal banking at 18 that required me to have money conversations for 8 hours a day with strangers. I learned a great deal about personal finances and it was very natural to translate to my personal life. again this is all for the spreading of knowledge on banking and finance with friends and family to clarify how to succeed..
    Great video!

  • @RossiFumiIndia
    @RossiFumiIndia Рік тому +6

    I grew up in poverty and they are so right, I get panic attacks when my bank balance goes below a certain limit.

  • @SweetlyDarkArt
    @SweetlyDarkArt Рік тому +1

    I was always told we can't afford "that" to the point I never asked for help or anything. I was told to never ask and the only person that will get me xyz is me. So I knew not to eat so much or ask for anything because we never had enough, especially when I had 6 younger siblings. I still believe I never have enough and can't shake that. Not enough food, not enough money, ect.

  • @MicahRousey
    @MicahRousey Рік тому +4

    To the lady who learned her love of money is shameful.... It's the stealing from your mother that's shameful.
    Way to deny your wrongdoing and turn it into your emotions. WTAF.

  • @frayacinth
    @frayacinth Рік тому +1

    when I was growing up my family always had money, but my aunt and uncle had financial troubles because they always spent money on stuff they didn't need and racked up massive amounts of debt. Growing up I overheard so many conversations where my parents gossiped about their poor finances; I've carried over the fear of becoming an impulsive spender like them and disappointing my family. That's stuck with me all these years, and even though I have money of my own now I always manage to talk myself out of buying anything that isn't bare essential, and I feel terrible any time I spend a large amount of money on anything.

  • @flourish_ol
    @flourish_ol Рік тому +8

    Fantastic Videos always from Big think, i've never really expressed my gratitude for your videos-they are inspirining, and as as a teen, i get better lectures from here that always place me at least one step ahead from what life has to offer. By the way tho, how do you guys gather these very brilliant minds?

  • @TodorescuProgramming
    @TodorescuProgramming Рік тому +1

    the biggest lesson I learned from my dad is learn how to make more, instead of being frugal

  • @StrumVogel
    @StrumVogel Рік тому +2

    Growing up poor is a huge trauma for me. Fortunately, I no longer live in Southeast Asia anymore.

  • @userone7057
    @userone7057 Рік тому +3

    Now, I'm more aware. Thank you so much! 😬

  • @UsualSuspect404
    @UsualSuspect404 Рік тому

    I grew up in the 70's. When I was 10yrs old I went on a school field trip from Detroit to Holland Michigan. I think my parents gave me a packed lunch and 20$. I bought some candy and 2 souvenirs. On the trip back home I was out of money. The bus stopped at a restaurant and everyone got off to eat late lunch/dinner except me. I sat on the bus while everyone else ate. That experience forever changed my relationship with money!! Forever! My mom says I am "frugal". I have been a Millionaire a couple times over. I have lived in "Mansions" I retired at 58 with plenty of $. I still drive a 13 yr old Toyota. There is so much truth on this video.

  • @mikmillerrealtor4491
    @mikmillerrealtor4491 Рік тому +1

    The story about the grandfather and the mother remains prominent and true to this day!

  • @cc-by8uk
    @cc-by8uk Рік тому +1

    From early days on I learnt to get a job and save money. 30 years ago I learnt a very different lesson. You can let your money work for you. When you understand how to invest you can make extra money every year. You can invest in small businesses, shares, houses e.g. Even when you loose money meanwhile you getting better and finally you start earning money.
    In the 80ies I lost 17.000 Euro with shares. Now I earn 2.000 Euro every month with Appartements and 800 Euro in average per month with shares. I still have a job because it is good money and it does not interfere with my other activities. Call it my loss insurance.

  • @LeoSG61
    @LeoSG61 Рік тому +1

    Nobody is high class or middle class, money comes and goes

  • @goldenplayer4966
    @goldenplayer4966 Рік тому +8

    My father is a penny-pincher for his family but for him he spends as much as he wants.
    My mother is the opposite, decades of taking care of kids and not being able to provide their wishes made her really bad with finances, she doesn't save a coin.
    When she was young, she had to work to but clothes because my grandparents would only provide food and shelter.
    I spent a lot of money with things I think I need specially if they are going to last very long, but when it comes to clothes, self care and food and I'm really cheap, because I do not believe those things are worth their value, I'm playing to save enough to live of it because I hate working.

    • @penguingobrrbrr353
      @penguingobrrbrr353 Рік тому +5

      being cheap about food is actually going to kill you down the line :). Better eat high quality food and waste a bit more money than saving it and losing it once day because you made a mistake of not eating and taking care of yourself with high quality food.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Рік тому

      @@penguingobrrbrr353 It’s not a waste, it’s an investment. If you eat poorly, you will ruin your health. You will spend money on medical treatment trying in vain to regain it. How much is the Medicare prescription drug doughnut hole? Wouldn’t you like not to have to concern yourself with it when you’re elderly?

    • @penguingobrrbrr353
      @penguingobrrbrr353 Рік тому

      @@genxx2724 thats what I said it is an investment :) i didnt say eat poorly and not exercising. Yes, medical bills and bills and anything doesnt matter where you live is expensive
      Here where I live a normal 'doctor' inspection to check your 'Entire body' for problems is around 200-300euro meanwhile the average salary is around 700 euro which is dog expensive and thank god i dont need these things i am healthy and I hope i die healthy once i get old.

  • @cleorikki2145
    @cleorikki2145 Рік тому +4

    I feel like I grew up watching my mom care so much about money. Even though we were pretty well off most of the time and lived comfortable lives, she’d always fantasize out loud about winning a the lottery or becoming a millionaire some other way and buying all the things she ever wanted. I think this fucked me up to be completely honest. All I want to do is pursue a career in the entertainment business (music, movies, poetry, animation) but I’ve been stuck on the idea for years and years (I’m 19 and graduated at 17) taking general courses in college because I’m not brave enough to do something that might leave me with less than an optimal amount of money. Fucking sucks how your parents can wire your brain and I stay up at night wondering what could’ve been if just a few things had been tweaked differently- if I had known from a young age I could follow whatever dream I had regardless of what other think, regardless of money.

  • @jordanb.4514
    @jordanb.4514 Рік тому +2

    0:15 WHY. IS. THIS. ART. STYLE. A. THING.

  • @maxroy5246
    @maxroy5246 6 місяців тому

    My parents struggled but they did a great job of hiding it. They were extremely defensive/private about how much they made and what things cost. Now I feel a sense of shame that I’m struggling to make ends meet for my own family.

  • @gobbluth2609
    @gobbluth2609 Рік тому +1

    "yeah mom they have words for that" 😭🤣

  • @gnocchidokie
    @gnocchidokie Рік тому +3

    The biggest lesson in the age of digital money is understanding that having enough money to pay for something doesn’t mean you can *afford* it. You have enough money to order Uber eats but you can’t afford to order Uber eats because it costs such a large percentage of your available cash and doing so will erase the value of your money. You’re really going to spend 4 work hours of take home pay on one little meal?

  • @juanpablodelamora5667
    @juanpablodelamora5667 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thank you for all this helpful, insightful information.
    I was wondering if there are books that these experts, or you, recommend to further explore these concepts. Thank you again!

  • @maxd3028
    @maxd3028 Рік тому +15

    The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.. perfectly explained!💯👏

    • @GothBatty
      @GothBatty Рік тому +2

      The poor keep themselves poor and the rich know how to not become poor again. ❤

    • @AlienGuru33
      @AlienGuru33 Рік тому

      money is a tool to control humanity. If you have crypto mining you have money everyday for the rest of your life.

    • @greentea_
      @greentea_ Рік тому +9

      @@GothBatty it is also true that it’s easier to maintain wealth when you start out rich (favorable rates, better loan packages, access to exclusive investments) than when you are poorer (need to build wealth from scratch, loans are disproportionate, less starting capital for business)

    • @wilsonb82
      @wilsonb82 Рік тому

      @@AlienGuru33 hahah cryptoscam

    • @mycodingchannel9690
      @mycodingchannel9690 Рік тому

      @@GothBatty ok Reagan

  • @dmtdreamz7706
    @dmtdreamz7706 Рік тому +8

    It puts you into a state where nothing matters in a good way. You truly don't give a shit about anything and you're just happy as fuck as a result, because nothing matters. Nothing matters, nothing means anything, there's nothing to do, there's no point, there's no goal but there's also no boredom, there's no negative meanings attached to the meaninglessness, it's just perfectly meaningless and it's awesome. You're basically just like sitting like a cat on a windowsill enjoying whatever experience is before it, just being and it feels amazing. 🦄

    • @skatesatgod-fusion2619
      @skatesatgod-fusion2619 Рік тому +1

      Not sure how your comment is related to the video. This looks like some kind of glitch where you commented on a different video, on therapeutic drugs I'm assuming, which somehow is appearing on this video.

  • @putrijd5173
    @putrijd5173 Рік тому

    i was just unpacking to my spouse how (perhaps coupled with other things) my family being affluent but very stingy on me and using money to leverage what they want out of me might have influenced how i consider myself “worthy” of money-i get very anxious when getting paid or submitting my invoice, believing despite having done my work, i don’t “deserve” to get paid, and i tend to be stingy on myself as well. still working through it.

  • @joelyazell7380
    @joelyazell7380 Рік тому +2

    There are no healthy attitudes with money. Money cuts the guts of all feelings. Takes the place of your good feelings,because greed has none. Money is something worthless soul sells it for. You can think whatever you want about it,but don’t let it think for you.

  • @ParisiticPictures
    @ParisiticPictures Рік тому +1

    Born in 1987. Growing up the answer to me asking from anything from a snowcone to $50 skateboard was, “No. it’s too much.” So I learned quick to not even bother axing for shit. I did a ton a kid work to warrant an allowance but Never got one. I literally never learned “the value of a dollar.” I really feel if my Dad would have giving me as little as 5 bucks a week it would have opened up the world to me more. All too often I was out with friends with 0 dollars while they’re getting a little something to eat. I’m 35 now and I basically don’t believe in money. Is it my fault?

  • @juliemcdonald1245
    @juliemcdonald1245 2 місяці тому

    I did not grow up poor. I was raised in an upper middle-class home. But I have very few memories of my early childhood up to the age of 11. One thing I do remember though was my narcissistic mother constantly telling me how much money I was costing my father every time I needed new clothes, or something got broken and needed replaced. How am I supposed to heal mindsets I don't remember even making?

  • @es8117
    @es8117 Рік тому +1

    My Father was overly stringent with money (tight) whist my Mother frittered money (not her own either) away. No middle ground.

  • @masterthnag105
    @masterthnag105 Рік тому

    Thank you for this.

  • @Teribare
    @Teribare Рік тому +2

    My brother and I learned early on, many things from our parents that has made a huge impact in our relationship with money. 1. Someone will always try to spend our money if we don't spend it. 2. Profiting being a vice rather than being good as they were religious. 3. Exaggeration in money making and reckless spending leads to more harm than good in social/family dynamics. What happened as we are now adults? My brother is always living like he's paycheck to paycheck. I live frugally and lie about how much I make and spend some of my extra money into to stuff (things I dont need) rather putting all the extra money into savings or even investments.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Рік тому

      Read the Parable of the Talents. We are supposed to invest money to generate more.

  • @Benyamin-Mousazadeh44
    @Benyamin-Mousazadeh44 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video....

  • @user-zr1dr7nz8e
    @user-zr1dr7nz8e 2 місяці тому

    Only thing my baby boomer parents ever said to me about money was, "that's not your business." Every time I asked about it I was treated like I was trying to steal. I've never had any kind of healthy relationship with money.

  • @bystandersarah
    @bystandersarah 2 місяці тому

    My mom would just constantly say how we couldn’t afford this, couldn’t afford that… worry worry worry about money, all the time! I have scarcity mindset but I’m mad because I found out my mom had plenty of money all along!😢

  • @ennuied
    @ennuied Рік тому +2

    Money = power. At least in lower layers of society. Poor people = poor mentality = poor people.

  • @rogerclark3
    @rogerclark3 Рік тому +3

    We are taught that "the love of money is the root of all evil", and "money doesn't buy happiness", and "money doesn't grow on trees", and now the elites are just straight up telling us "you will own nothing and be happy".

    • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
      @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Рік тому +2

      Money can't buy happiness but it can buy a trauma therapist 😔

    • @rogerclark3
      @rogerclark3 Рік тому

      @@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa It can also buy a heck of a lot of happiness...

    • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
      @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Рік тому

      @@rogerclark3 it can buy items that can give you short term happiness as well as give you food/home stability which gives you peace of mind, on top of it being able to buy the services of a psychologist :)

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio Рік тому

      "money doesn't buy happiness" is probably one of the most damaging nonsense mantras of our western world.
      It's simply a justification for extremely rich people to hoard so much money that other parts of society have to suffer a life in poverty.

  • @AA-qs4ju
    @AA-qs4ju Рік тому

    Helped me a lot. Luv u guys

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw Рік тому +1

    I would say experience sells. It's scary to both the parent and child. Using money at a younger age (whether real, fake or lack thereof) can help start the journey.

  • @dylanakent
    @dylanakent Рік тому

    Parents traumatized by the Depression, continued to be traumatized by it no matter how much money they saved or made. The subject was totally toxic, a secret mystery never discussed and a giant "NO". Effects of this were multi-generational. Merely asking to go to college was offensive. They did ok with some HS, why won't you? 3 intelligent kids, no savings, no planning for college, no encouragement, not even ever an inquiry as to how one might ever study or work for any kind of scholarship. Taking an unpaid internship for a career was considered absolute crazy talk. Can't own rental property because all tenants are bad people. Win the lottery? Well, managing that money would be a burden because it would never occur to anyone to trust or ask for financial advice and on and on....

  • @EzBz982
    @EzBz982 Рік тому +1

    Teach your kids that politicians and abstract entities like the government do not manage money well.

  • @craigmerkey8518
    @craigmerkey8518 Рік тому

    Great examples1 Growing up I realized the difference b/t frugality, budget and hoarding are not the same !

  • @marietiburcio
    @marietiburcio Рік тому +10

    When we were kids my parents told us the story of Ang Langgam at si Tipaklong and how important it is to save for rainy days. I'm glad they did, now I'm addicted to saving ang investing.

  • @cherista
    @cherista Рік тому +1

    Me and my brother are very different. I'm good at saving money and he love spending. He's living paycheck to paycheck but not in debt. I could never do that.

  • @ahah1785
    @ahah1785 Рік тому +2

    low expenses is the key. There are a limit to how much yo can work yourself before health suffers. Health is worth billion times more than money - never forget that! If expenses and rent is high vote vith your legs even if its hard to move. This is valid for lower to mid income jobs, if you have found or got lucky enough to get payed a high income salary, i guess its a question of what is worth to you then ....

  • @CryptoAlex89
    @CryptoAlex89 Рік тому +3

    If I would have picked up on my parents' financial decisions as a kid I would be bankrupt now lol.

  • @asankajayaweera7212
    @asankajayaweera7212 Рік тому

    The money trauma has its own perpetuality. I am really afraid of pilfering money because my one of relatives was supremely suffered due to stealing money. So I never wanted to steal money even at the young age.

  • @biz7764
    @biz7764 Рік тому +2

    Those children starving in Africa just need to watch this video. Problem solved!

  • @mileab6725
    @mileab6725 11 місяців тому

    I saw my Mother worried out of her mind about money, made me feel like I was in constant danger of being homeless or not having enough to eat. Turns out my mother has a bad anxiety disorder, but 10 year old me didn’t understand that

  • @sakuraesther6309
    @sakuraesther6309 Рік тому

    Financial therapist?!!!!!!
    Dang perfect mate

  • @LiveLoveLifeShare
    @LiveLoveLifeShare Рік тому

    This is SO true

  • @relishnblemishes
    @relishnblemishes Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know a book or text that discuss this issue? Looking for a reference, especially talking about the fear of money and money as a tool in general?

  • @ColleenJoudrey
    @ColleenJoudrey Рік тому +3

    I figure I was raised in a lower middle class family as my parents owned a small business. They were not concerned nor transparent about money and I ended up be heavily chastised if I mentioned the subject.
    Luckily my grandparents were very open about finances and helped me tremendously when I needed advice after having a child and buying a house on minimum wage at 20yo. That was 18 years ago and I still see alot of my grandparents lessons in our day to day life and I still dont know what my parents are hekkin doing.

    • @suebotchie4167
      @suebotchie4167 Рік тому +1

      Was about 8, when i asked how much a house cost. Answer i got was, "it's none of your [gosh darn] business." That's a heckava thing to say to any kid.

  • @damxn7303
    @damxn7303 Рік тому +3

    My mom would always tell me money didn’t matter. So we grew up poor ( but happy) I always had food on the table and everything.
    But as I got older I felt guilty to have money.
    I make a teachers salary as a counselor. I got into day trading, and make 250k off a 3k investment. (Option trading).
    I felt SO guilty to have this money. I subconsciously lost it all. And felt better…
    Im trying to reprogram my subconscious to be ok with having money ….it sounds stupid but it’s hard

    • @RustyShakleford1
      @RustyShakleford1 Рік тому

      You don't just lose 250k what'd you spend it on?

    • @damxn7303
      @damxn7303 Рік тому

      @@RustyShakleford1 lol option calls on a few bad plays

  • @marvigli993
    @marvigli993 Рік тому +18

    from my mother I knew we didn't have much money, thou my mum worked a full time job. From her I learn that freedom came from economical independence, never make your freedom dependent on a man's money. Still now I don't understand how a 'wife' can live without panic attacks for depending on someone else's good will. Now at 60+, I think my mum was right, got my money, my home, my boy friend & friends, don't care so much about money but money let me have the life I want.

  • @asphyxia7784
    @asphyxia7784 Рік тому

    I have anxiety with money because we had a lot of strife in the family in my childhood because of money. But I end up spending money recklessly or impulsively because of my father's mismanagement of money.

  • @Octavio-mk5mv
    @Octavio-mk5mv Рік тому

    Well for me it was 50/50, my parents told me to save and that sort of things but the enviroment was a huge factor too, we lived with what we have so even if i wanted things i somehow learnt that is better to stay in silence because some things are simply not affordable.
    And then i started learning electronics and had another mindset change towards buying because i had the skills to recycle, make and repair with things i had in hand and buy minnimaly, just the parts i need to make something work or if i want to buy i always favor used or seccond hand things instead of new ones

  • @kenr6995
    @kenr6995 Рік тому +3

    If u grew up and your parents weren't financial literate there it is which is y most people that become successful have there parents depend on them for a house etc

  • @joelyazell7380
    @joelyazell7380 Рік тому +1

    There’s never enough if you’re not worth it. Both greed and poverties driver is you

  • @joaquin67
    @joaquin67 Рік тому +1

    Growing up, I always knew I had to save up. But growing up in an oilfield town, that made a stronger influence on how I viewed money. I almost despised money, because people always had a love for it. It also speaks to how I've been against making more money. But recently my views on it are more that it's a tool and that can alleviate stress and can afford experiences that can make you happy memories. Most importantly, when I learned making more literally increasing your serotonin levels, I'm now aiming to make more money. But I'm simultaneously afraid of overworking myself, but I guess if I play my cards right the extra work time can eventually give me free time. But then I'll be older.. lol, what a world.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Рік тому

      Watch Jordan Peterson’s video on the difference between happiness and pleasure. Serotonin is good. Dopamine is not. Which are you actually stimulating?

    • @joaquin67
      @joaquin67 Рік тому

      @@genxx2724 Funny you mentioned Jordan Peterson, he's the one I referenced in my comment. By moving up in the social hierarchy, serotonin levels increase. That's when I realized it's not such a bad thing to self improve and move up a bit. At one point in life, I was actually my happiest when everything seemed to be going well (and I wasn't even that high in the social hierarchy, I had just moved up some in terms of finances, career, physical body, appearance, education, etc.).
      I'm definitely stimulating dopamine in an unproductive way. That's something I'm working to improve on.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Рік тому

      @@joaquin67 You didn’t “reference” Jordan Peterson. Reference, or referring to, means citing and giving credit to the person who came up with the idea.

    • @joaquin67
      @joaquin67 Рік тому

      @@genxx2724 okay...