Hello, I'm Russian. Can I correct some facts? 1. Police didn't look for an "expert opinion" when they knock at Moskvin's door. Instead they screened everybody who bought green dye used to vandalise Muslim graves. 2. The story of electrocuted Natasha is bizarre because its only half true. Yes, we have a tradition of open casket ceremonies and yes, in rural places one may be offered to kiss dead body in the forehead. But in no way kissing dead is mandatory and the ring story is for sure a product of mental disease. 3. The part I find really interesting is that when the wrong person was convicted for desecration of graves, Moskvin actually went to police and made a confession but was turned away either because police didn't bother to reopen the closed case or because Moskvin was mentally ill. Anyway, the story you covered is absolutely fenomenal, it just looks like you don't have Russian speaking fact cheker. If that a case - I will be glad to assist you with any Russian language based research for free. Let me know in the comments if you interested
Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I feel like we never discussed how the girl actually died / got killed. We just focused on the grave stealing. Am I missing something?
@@tarynhill8094 you may only want the story. I may have wanted to comment and share what I enjoy about the channel, this particular video and a great job done by the narrator. Your opinion is not for me to judge or praise, so I'm not going to do it. Let's leave it at that
I just thought to myself that I’ll watch something different from true crime & went to have a look at some comedy. Saw you’d posted a new case, so must watch this. Thanks
I've been listening to your channel for 5 years and I just realized the cup of coffee ☕️ on your desk with steam swirling. I still have my map for the East Area rapist & murderer 5 part series. All this time and I never noticed the coffee cup...
@@balletshoes I find it rather improbable as well. Nizhny Novgorod, his hometown where this would have occurred, is a rather large city on the Volga River. I would find it quite believable if it occurred in a more isolated rural setting. I do find it odd that not one other child was attending that school girl's funeral. Was that child's community aware that her family were different? Yes I know I tend to over analyze: Science major & researching nerd. That Moskivin was interested in different cultures burial practices, does make me lean to he discovered that rite & added it to his backstory.
@@balletshoes I have no idea what the funeral customs are where this man lives, but whatever triggered his bizarre thinking and behavior could have been rooted in what he stated. After all, he was able to tell the truth about other things when making his confessions so there could be an element in truth in his story regarding the disturbing effects the strange funeral had on him. One thing is certain, this man has serious problems.
@@balletshoes in some cultures, this is what they call a ghost marriage. The family of the deceased person truly feel bad for them to be 'alone' in the afterlife, so they look for ways to 'marry' them in their funeral, either with a living participant, or another deceased person (with the help of their family, that also want them to be wed in the afterlife). It sounds crazy but this is something that happens even to this day. Stephanie Soo covered this in one episode of Rotten Mango, her true crime channel.
Moskvin is a sick individual. Those poor children and Muslim women they deserved to rest in peace but instead, someone decided to be evil and cause more harm to the families. Olga's poor parents, I'm glad they were able to reunite and have another child, I hope they are still together and healing. I have heard this story a few times but this is the first time I have seen the focus be on the victims and not the perpetrator. Not sure if I really believe his parents had no idea, deep down they had to have a bad feeling. I hope Moskvin stays locked away for the rest of his life.
WHY???? Why did they let her go on her own. At the very least they should have walked out with her to the street and watched until grandma took her inside. OMG how terrible
Every parent of course has to face that moment when the child is granted a modicum of freedom in the neighborhood. Grandmother was a few minutes away. Had there been a rash of crimes in the neighborhood no doubt the parents would have walked her. But i do understand your "only if" passion. Its very tragic. In Minnesota in 1989, a couple let their 2 young sons bike with a friend to a convenience store in early dark evening - for the first time. Ages about 10. Young Jacob Wetterling was abducted by a man who stepped out of the woods. 27 years later the pervert responsible confessed and revealed where he'd left poor Jacob's body. Haunted me, as I'd left Minnesota the following year. His mother became very active in missing children efforts.
I have such mixed feelings on this because as much as I'm horrified by the guy as an adult and deeply back the family on saying he should not be given free reign again.... I still can't help but feel horror on behalf of the kid who was basically kidnapped and forced to take part in a wedding with a corpse . Like that definitely gave him deep trauma of some sort and I can't help but feel like the family that did this to him holds some blame for fucking up a kid like that. Like yeah they're grieving but.. dude.. grabbing a kid off the street and making him participate in a another kids funeral and kiss a body then just giving him a bit of food and money like "hey thanks kid" is just so ..uurghhhh like of COURSE thats gonna scar a kid tf??????
This man was clearly mentally unwell... What he did is horrifying, but his intentions sound to be somewhat... pure? I mean, in his sick mind, it made sense. What happened to him as a child was clearly severely traumatizing. And then he even felt guilt for the man that was wrongly aprehended. In the end, he deserved to be locked up, but in a psychiatric facility rather than a prison cell. I can't imagine being family of the poor people he dug up, though. Overal a truly truly awful situation for everybody involved.
As Casefile detailed what happened to this guy as a child, I couldn't help but feel it was somewhat of an elaborated story - not by Casefile but by the man in his retelling of his childhood account that allegedly caused the trauma that led to his destiny. It sounded very, very odd to me. I agree he is totally out of his mind so it wouldn't surprise me to find that his childhood story was also fictitious. Just mho.
It wasn't made clear in the video whether Anatoly was also responsible for notes and vandalizing the gravestone at Olga's grave... It isn't uncommon in Russian urban areas to cover the grave with decorative bricks and concrete in addition to erecting a gravestone. Had that been done promptly, it would have been much more difficult to gain access to the casket and to conceal the fact that the grave was disturbed. Both that and the fact that ground settles typically within a year or two even without bricks and concrete made it imperative for Anatoly to do the deed within a relatively short time frame after the burial. There are special tools that enable one to dig througheven a frozen ground. Anatoly's description of the incident during his childhood included attendees during the wake at funeral parlor holding candles. That signifies that even at the height of Soviet atheism -- and in a large urban center to boot! -- religious undertones were often present. Now, the real question is where did Anatoly find the time for digging up over eighty graves, partially mummifying cadavers, and so on? Even with his parents spending half a year in their country house, even if he owned an automobile, he still must have held a full-time job. And in large urban centers it takes quite some time to get around...
Wow. Good thing the police were so quick to investigate Muslim grave desecrations or they might never have discovered this guy. They shrugged off the families complaining about their children's graves being desecrated. 😒
Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I feel like we never discussed how the girl actually died / got killed. We just focused on the grave stealing. Am I missing something?
They need to make income to produce the podcast, It takes a lot of research and production time. They deserve to make enough to make it worth their while. At least they don't charge. Just skip through the ads or try listening through their website, or another podcast platform.
Hello, I'm Russian. Can I correct some facts? 1. Police didn't look for an "expert opinion" when they knock at Moskvin's door. Instead they screened everybody who bought green dye used to vandalise Muslim graves. 2. The story of electrocuted Natasha is bizarre because its only half true. Yes, we have a tradition of open casket ceremonies and yes, in rural places one may be offered to kiss dead body in the forehead. But in no way kissing dead is mandatory and the ring story is for sure a product of mental disease. 3. The part I find really interesting is that when the wrong person was convicted for desecration of graves, Moskvin actually went to police and made a confession but was turned away either because police didn't bother to reopen the closed case or because Moskvin was mentally ill. Anyway, the story you covered is absolutely fenomenal, it just looks like you don't have Russian speaking fact cheker. If that a case - I will be glad to assist you with any Russian language based research for free. Let me know in the comments if you interested
Не знаю, я и в русских источниках видела версию с кольцом.
Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I feel like we never discussed how the girl actually died / got killed. We just focused on the grave stealing. Am I missing something?
@@kirtanamrita2302 what Pavel is talking about is Moskvin's story about his childhood's classmate's funeral.
As a native russian, those are one of the best pronounciations of russian names done by english speakers. Actually pleasant to hear, great job
That's not important. We just want the story. How he pronounces a name has nothing to do with the story.
@@tarynhill8094oh sit down. It was just an observation. Sheessh
@@tarynhill8094 you may only want the story. I may have wanted to comment and share what I enjoy about the channel, this particular video and a great job done by the narrator. Your opinion is not for me to judge or praise, so I'm not going to do it. Let's leave it at that
bc it is a computer generated voice
Exactly. They are too stupid to understand that is computer voice🤣
This is the best true crime podcast I’ve ever listened to in my life. I love listening to these when I get bored. Keep up the great work
I've heard this story before but it always focuses on the guy's biography. This is interesting because you gave more context!
Excellent presentation and research, as always. Thank you.
That was creepy af! Officials would have to be nuts to let that guy out of any kind of secure institution.
Thanks for the warning at the beginning that this involves crimes against children, I always avoid those.
You're a pussy.
I feel so bad for the parents, they shouldn't have to have olga in an unmaked grave. Just cruelty on-top of cruelty
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Wow never been this quick to your videos. Love them
This is the creepiest case you have ever covered I’ve listened to it 3 times
Maybe you should talk to someone?
@@oscarleijontoft😂
I just thought to myself that I’ll watch something different from true crime & went to have a look at some comedy. Saw you’d posted a new case, so must watch this. Thanks
Might need the comedy after this one 😊
@@robyn7287 I did. It was horrific. That man was one sick sick puppy. Horror movie stuff.
@@nes123ification its almost Halloween, perfect for the season
I thought 40 min is an exceptionally short episode, but this is so bad it felt like forever…
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What horrible and sick people there are!
Love a break from Sarah Boone and Adelson obsession. 👍
Wow creepy. Great story... just in time for our Halloween.🦇 Perfectly presented as usual.
Thanks Casefiles. You're the best!
I love your voice & how you tell the stories.
Thank you from Australia ❤
You speak Russian names, words & places perfectly! 🇷🇺😘
What the hell is wrong with people.
Good Question!!!
They've always been that way. Some.
Back for my Casey fix😉
What an awful man, and to think they might let him out is frightening.
I was putting this off as whenever Russian cases are covered the pronunciation irritates me. But this was superb. Thank you for the effort!
An unusual take on an otherwise well-known story. Great job 👍
I've been listening to your channel for 5 years and I just realized the cup of coffee ☕️ on your desk with steam swirling.
I still have my map for the East Area rapist & murderer 5 part series.
All this time and I never noticed the coffee cup...
Me too😊
Horrific
This is a genuinely chilling mystery, terrorism, child murders, it almost has it all. I could see this as a Apple of HBO max miniseries
Cheers 🎉
Very creepy. Man was unstable. Who would think that one bad experience at a strange funeral would lead to that. Good reason to cremate.
@@balletshoes I find it rather improbable as well. Nizhny Novgorod, his hometown where this would have occurred, is a rather large city on the Volga River. I would find it quite believable if it occurred in a more isolated rural setting.
I do find it odd that not one other child was attending that school girl's funeral. Was that child's community aware that her family were different?
Yes I know I tend to over analyze: Science major & researching nerd.
That Moskivin was interested in different cultures burial practices, does make me lean to he discovered that rite & added it to his backstory.
@@balletshoes I have no idea what the funeral customs are where this man lives, but whatever triggered his bizarre thinking and behavior could have been rooted in what he stated. After all, he was able to tell the truth about other things when making his confessions so there could be an element in truth in his story regarding the disturbing effects the strange funeral had on him. One thing is certain, this man has serious problems.
@@balletshoes in some cultures, this is what they call a ghost marriage. The family of the deceased person truly feel bad for them to be 'alone' in the afterlife, so they look for ways to 'marry' them in their funeral, either with a living participant, or another deceased person (with the help of their family, that also want them to be wed in the afterlife). It sounds crazy but this is something that happens even to this day. Stephanie Soo covered this in one episode of Rotten Mango, her true crime channel.
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That was seriously f'd up
That cemetery needs CCTV 😢
This is a new one!
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Moskvin is a sick individual. Those poor children and Muslim women they deserved to rest in peace but instead, someone decided to be evil and cause more harm to the families. Olga's poor parents, I'm glad they were able to reunite and have another child, I hope they are still together and healing. I have heard this story a few times but this is the first time I have seen the focus be on the victims and not the perpetrator. Not sure if I really believe his parents had no idea, deep down they had to have a bad feeling. I hope Moskvin stays locked away for the rest of his life.
Well that was creepy...what a weird dude
How do maggots get in a coffin underground ?
Good question
Perfect timing 👌
Why didn't they stake out Olgas grave at those special dates then? And what happened to her killer? What a disturbing case!
Too gross for me could not finish listening.
WHY???? Why did they let her go on her own. At the very least they should have walked out with her to the street and watched until grandma took her inside. OMG how terrible
Every parent of course has to face that moment when the child is granted a modicum of freedom in the neighborhood. Grandmother was a few minutes away. Had there been a rash of crimes in the neighborhood no doubt the parents would have walked her.
But i do understand your "only if" passion. Its very tragic.
In Minnesota in 1989, a couple let their 2 young sons bike with a friend to a convenience store in early dark evening - for the first time. Ages about 10.
Young Jacob Wetterling was abducted by a man who stepped out of the woods.
27 years later the pervert responsible confessed and revealed where he'd left poor Jacob's body.
Haunted me, as I'd left Minnesota the following year. His mother became very active in missing children efforts.
I have such mixed feelings on this because as much as I'm horrified by the guy as an adult and deeply back the family on saying he should not be given free reign again....
I still can't help but feel horror on behalf of the kid who was basically kidnapped and forced to take part in a wedding with a corpse . Like that definitely gave him deep trauma of some sort and I can't help but feel like the family that did this to him holds some blame for fucking up a kid like that. Like yeah they're grieving but.. dude.. grabbing a kid off the street and making him participate in a another kids funeral and kiss a body then just giving him a bit of food and money like "hey thanks kid" is just so ..uurghhhh like of COURSE thats gonna scar a kid tf??????
This man was clearly mentally unwell... What he did is horrifying, but his intentions sound to be somewhat... pure? I mean, in his sick mind, it made sense. What happened to him as a child was clearly severely traumatizing. And then he even felt guilt for the man that was wrongly aprehended. In the end, he deserved to be locked up, but in a psychiatric facility rather than a prison cell. I can't imagine being family of the poor people he dug up, though. Overal a truly truly awful situation for everybody involved.
As Casefile detailed what happened to this guy as a child, I couldn't help but feel it was somewhat of an elaborated story - not by Casefile but by the man in his retelling of his childhood account that allegedly caused the trauma that led to his destiny. It sounded very, very odd to me. I agree he is totally out of his mind so it wouldn't surprise me to find that his childhood story was also fictitious. Just mho.
November Two.
It wasn't made clear in the video whether Anatoly was also responsible for notes and vandalizing the gravestone at Olga's grave... It isn't uncommon in Russian urban areas to cover the grave with decorative bricks and concrete in addition to erecting a gravestone. Had that been done promptly, it would have been much more difficult to gain access to the casket and to conceal the fact that the grave was disturbed. Both that and the fact that ground settles typically within a year or two even without bricks and concrete made it imperative for Anatoly to do the deed within a relatively
short time frame after the burial. There are special tools that enable one to dig througheven a frozen ground. Anatoly's description of the incident during his childhood included attendees during the wake at funeral parlor holding candles. That signifies that even at the height of Soviet
atheism -- and in a large urban center to boot! -- religious undertones were often present. Now, the real question is where did Anatoly find the time for digging up over eighty graves, partially mummifying cadavers, and so on? Even with his parents spending half a year in their country house, even if he owned an automobile, he still must have held a full-time job. And in large urban centers it takes quite some time to get around...
Wow. Good thing the police were so quick to investigate Muslim grave desecrations or they might never have discovered this guy. They shrugged off the families complaining about their children's graves being desecrated. 😒
I listen to so much crime, ive even heard this bizarre disturbing tale before.
Good lord.
Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I feel like we never discussed how the girl actually died / got killed. We just focused on the grave stealing. Am I missing something?
I believe he said he was hit on the head.
It says at around 7:05 ish that she was hit in the head, but it's so fast I can get how you'd miss it 😊
"grave" discovery. ho ho. v funni.
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Is it normal to punish the listeners with the commercials ?
They need to make income to produce the podcast, It takes a lot of research and production time.
They deserve to make enough to make it worth their while. At least they don't charge. Just skip through the ads or try listening through their website, or another podcast platform.
Casefile is AI??!!! Nooooooo! I thought he was a real man! Im so sad
No a rumor
He's not AI
no its not, dont spread such brain dead lies
No.
Don't be ridiculous