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Alonso's R25 Outing Shows Modern F1 is Missing the 'Wow' Factor
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2020
- The most exciting part of the 2020 Abu Dhabi GP weekend had to be Fernando Alonso in his R25 taking to the track. It was Alonso's 2005 championship winning car and the last of the mighty V10 era that everybody loves so much. Alonso's R25 Abu Dhabi outing showed us a little bit of what modern F1 is missing with the current generation of cars. The sound, the nimble chassis, and less technology makes the R25 a head turner and everyone in the F1 paddock had their eyes peeled on Yas Marina circuit while Alonso gave it full beans. Hear what the drivers had to say about this car and what we can learn from the older generations to bring back the wow factor in F1.
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V10s are my favourite
I heard a Renault V8 in the South of France (100km at the North West of le Castellet) without earplugs
IT WAAAAAS LOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUD
I love this
F'ing A Right! I think modern auto racing is lacking the WOW factor in general though, not just F1. Go back to Indycar 1995 and compare that to an Indycar of now. Formula 1 is going through the same thing. This gave me absolute chills, and brought me to tears of joy seeing my absolute racing hero back in his Championship Winning R25! Not to mention wringing it for everything it was worth. F1 Needs to be the leader in motorsport and ditch this ridiculous "green" electric/hybrid crap. The people don't want that. The fans don't want that. Our hero racing drivers are gladiators. Let's give them machines worthy of their talents! Bring back the NA V10's!
@@Icosiol Couldn't agree more and well said! I used to go to the ChampCar races in Toronto and those were Turbocharged V8's at 900HP! They sounded amazing so I can't imagine what a NA V10 would be like in person.
@@pixlgamerfr2004 Nice! Ya even V8's were great as well but of course if you had a choice it is V10 all the way!
V10s + hybrid + slick tyres + DRS
NEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOWWWWW
You hear the sound... You don't even see the car... But a massive smile on your face cuz u know what's coming...
That's a great way to put it! The V6 cars I see first then hear it!
@@BMF1Show There's nothing wrong with V6 engines. 80's turbos sound just fine (it's not V10 or V12 of course). It's the hybrid part that fucks up everything.
We can't see anyone smile though.......😷
Hell to the yes...
you know whats coming dont you
This single lap in the R25 was more interesting than the entire last 7 seasons of F1.
really? you watch and don't enjoy stop watching hehehe
not for mercedes and hamilton fans
And V6 apologists told everyone we'd "get used to the V6 sound, it still sounds good". Not a damn chance lol. When you're watching a current race with V6s it doesn't sound "too bad"... Until you go and watch an old video with the V8/V10/V12s and realise just how much soul F1 lost when the V6s came in.
If they would at least rev the engines properly but the shortshifting just sounds like they are not pushing.
agree with you bro
Why not biofuel bring back v8
I always hate it when people touting corporate apologea say "you will accept this bad change because its the future we set and you WILL like it". Regardless of how much conditioning it takes to make people like the new exclusive crap.
@@sulphurous2656 To be fair as a result f1 created the most efficient engines on the planet in return. Everything in the future is going to be electric, so of course f1 has to move in a more and more sustainable way to survive. If they can do that by creating incredible engines and by pushing the bar higher and higher, ey i'll take it. One can dream that maybe one day we can maybe get back to some like biofuel or hydrogen powered v10's, that would be awesome
F1 should do a nostalgia race with the current drivers and the old cars
The problem is the lack of safety then compared to now. I don't think Roman Grosjean would have survived his accident in a car from 2005. He may have had his faults, as a driver, but he is a really nice bloke.
@@RichardASK an accident like that could have been avoided in an older car too. The drivers complain about the cars being so heavy there's little grip at all on cornering before tires get really warm. The V8, V10s could hold on with colder tires...
not exactly 1:1, but Monaco does a historic GP with cars from set periods every two years. The next one is currently planned for this spring/summer.
@@RichardASK if u think late 90s/2000s cars werent safe ur so wrong. theres a reason there werent any deaths in F1 from 1995 to 2013, despite there being multiple brutal accidents like Alonso in Brasil 2003 or Kubica in Canada 2007
@@aggerktm I think it's entirely likely, that the introduction of the HALO, is what contributed to Roman Grosjean's survival in his crash. So, that is one incident. I suspect, that if I could be bothered, I could probably find other examples, but as I can't, let's just say, that I'm really happy Roman is OK today. I'm also glad, Max came away from his 51g crash, with nothing more than an extra bit of experience.
That Lewis reaction is so compeling. This is the top F1 driver in the world and he reacted like a kid that just saw a car for the first time.
Their was another part of that clip where at the end he says, "why did they get rid of that"? Good question Lewis!
And this is coming from a guy who DROVE in the N/A era, not the V10 but the V8.
@@BMF1Show Shows that his support for fully electric racing is just a publicity stunt.
@@KAMiKAZOW
You can support electric cars racing and still want V10 cars alongside them.
That's the problem with modern racing and F1. It's all or nothing. There's no debate or room for innovation
@@KAMiKAZOW there is only 22 F1 cars on earth.. while billions of car running on street.. I say keep F1 v10 and electric the rest sound like a more logical plan to me..
Is Hamilton's reaction during his interview not enough evidence.
It certainly should be enough!
It's just nostalgia.
So he's not so green after all then
@@markmitchell450 lol. Ofc he is. 20 cars racing every couple weeks is a TINY part of F1's climate impact
@@awesimo4684 no. Is what he dreams of. The reason why he got there and now what he gets is a toy
With only 2 seconds behind… what exactly have we ‘“progressed” towards? Obviously the tech and engineering have improved a lot. But fundamentally Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motor-racing and track speed. Not the pinnacle of R&D projects. We need the soul back.
F1 hasn't been about the pinnacle of track speed for decades
If it was ground force wouldn't have been banned
Fan cars wouldn't have been banned
F1 isn’t the same without the screaming engine. 90’s for me RIP Senna.
Senna won his championships in a v6 turbo honda engine if i remember correctly... No v12's/v10's.
@@rickbo5858 senna only won 1 championship with the v6 the other 2 was with 3.5 v10’s from honda
1991 championship was a V12
That era was magical!
Fucking 1989 Berger crash... Tamburello should have been turned into a chicane in 1990
**19 thousand rpm V10 zooms by**
"Now this does put a smile on my face"
Formula E cant touch this!
15 yrs old and just as fast as todays f1's..
@@poucxs9246 there was a lap comparison between Verstappen's lap and Alonso's.
The Renault had gp2 slicks on. those are thinner, but grippier and lighter than the Michelin patterned tires it used 15 years ago.
Also Alonso lifted on the straights and was just 'practicing' on a track he had never driven the Renault on.
The lap difference was a little over 4 seconds.
So I think I would sacrifice a few seconds to get these size cars and these engines back with today's tech.
19500 rpm on the Ferrari ua-cam.com/video/FcwtKXwvXbI/v-deo.html
Honda reaches 20000 in the Qualli
It says something when all the mechanics, engineers, and other team personnel climb the pitwall to watch the Renault do some laps. I mean these guys are around F1 cars every day, and to them it was something special.
I'll watch F1 again when the exhaust sounds comes back.
Same here brother, I stopped watching cause I literally fell asleep half of the time...
Yeah dude. My interest in F1 left with the engine sound. I tried to stick with it but it’s just dead without it.
I get my eargasms (and excitement) from WRC. Hope to be an F1 fan again when the exhaust note comes back.
the same with me... its because this moto gp have so many watchers nowadays
Yeah. My interest in the sport waned when they got rid of the V10s. I miss the two icons of F1, the V10s and Murray Walker!
They say V6 hybrids will make F1 go greener. Nonsense. Better stop the sport altogether if you want zero carbon emmissions. Politics and Sport shouldn't mix.
V10s or Nothing... F1 has limped on ever since the V10 Era... I'm glad people are finally accepting this...
and Madd Props to Renault for doing this. It takes a lot of cash to put that car on the track. They really made a statement by pulling all the equipment necessary to do it.
Also said it was difficult to find the oils to lubricate to engine and cost a fortune to buy it and get the r25 up and running
What if F1 decides to go crazy and not only bring back the 19,000 rpm V10 but add twin turbos.
@@davidperry4013 Turbos will take the sound from us. And come on, they don't even need, 980hp from the Honda Engine on 2004, those cars has more power than they need.
lewis hamilton 7 time world champion longs for d v10s, he spoke for all of us
Agreed
If Hamilton, who wants to prevent the climate change says V10s should be brought back, then there's literally no other obstacle than manufacturers not wanting to build these kind of engines! Maybe manufacturers would consider it if the fuel was cleaner. Something like ethanol for example. Clean, but yet loud and amazing. Also technology has progressed so much in these past 15 years, that even the big V10s are going to be cleaner than they used to be. And maybe something like KERS could be used to recover some energy and reduce the amount that goes to waste.
@@RandomGuy37 completly agree, we need to move to new tech like synthetic or bio fuels. Make them cheaper for the market
Thought he was an Eco warrior nowadays?
@@fasthracing dont mean he cant enjoy the sound of the almighty v10, also the v10 can be brought back like i said with bio or synthetic fuels and it will be more eco friendly then these v6s
These are the cars we all learned to love formula one with, need to come back
Just hearing that sound on the TV of your neighbors was enough to get you interested.
For sure
You’ve obviously never heard a Cosworth DFV or a Matra in full cry.
Not gonna lie... I had goose bumps all over when I heard that sound and saw Hamilton's reaction. F1 is in desperate need of this, if you ask me.
It's absolutely needed this since 2015
I remember feeling underwhelmed when F1 switched from V10s to V8s. Now with these V6 cars and looking back at what F1 used to be like, It's really quite sad to see what it has become
I remember watching and hearing the V12 Ferrari at Spa with Alesi driving it. What a sound.
yep.i heard as a kid at Silverstone. you could hear it pretty much around the whole track
The F412-T2, my god what a sound!
Bring back the V10 days, the sound, the feelings, the emotions! That car has a soul and life! Bring them back and the fueling pit stop as well.
Its almost like the car talks to you, Not just the drivers the viewers aswell. ❤
It's a new world out there. Adapt or die
As much I would kill to see old school competition , the excuse is environment friendly... As if the teams moving around in private jets and buses every weekend is environment friendly...
Bring back the V10 days equals make f1 teams leave en masse.
I would not agree with the refueling because its very dangerous but to bring back v10s or even v8s would be so nice.
I just want to admit that I am watching f1 only in hybrid era and have no real emotions from he days back in he early 2000s even though i am still thinking this v10 sound belongs to Formula1
I went to the 2001 gp in Melbourne. I'll never forget the sounds. The McLaren was particularly ear splitting. Wow. Please come back
awesome, I went to the 97, 99 and 2000 Melbourne gp, I took for granted that era of F1 , I thought these V10s would be around for decades. But at least I’ll never forget the sound and experience being there.
We need this sound back, I don't care how, why or who, but we need to bring back the V10s, these are the best sounding engines F1 has ever had, the sound is so damn iconic, it's practically what the sport was known for. You hear that sound you immediately think F1, even a laymen associates this sound with F1. I still enjoy the sport but its just not the same without these engines.
For real. The soul of the sport is dying and we can make it so much better. New technology is not always the way forward.
@C J B "Eco loons"... The ICU is going the way of the dodo everywhere, not just in racing.
I guess you could still go watch 1/8th scale on road RC cars and practically hear the same note but yeah, we need this back in F1
@@Joe_Jenkins404 Bait.
The Fia will NEVER bring back the inefficent v10
I'm a grown man and when I hear the V10s and V12s it brings tears of joy. I can't really explain it but that sound just makes me happier than anything else in the world.
I like both those sounds, in fact I have trouble picking a favorite. V10 has the notes that scream "FORMULA ONE," but v12 had that roar. The V12 Ferrari sounded terrific!
They should at least run an old F1 car sometime during the weekend at every event from now on for all the fans if they ever get to go to a race again.
Maybe a classic race before the event with these cars doing a 20 lap sprint
@@Skippy-id9yt all different race winning cars from different teams and from all era's would it be crazy hearing and seeing all these stupid powerful cars, racing around say....... Yas Mari..... Just Kidding 😅, My personal choice would any day be Singapore or Malaysia.
@@Skippy-id9yt That’s too wasteful. What if an accident happens?
Seeing a car silent on display is just not the same as watching it scream round a track like it was designed to.
@@alexbat9337 Live a little Alex, live a little. 🏎
Back when F1 cars looked and sounded beautiful, fast and scary all at the same time.
You need to hear late 1970s cars. They actually had harmonics. V10s are just shrieking mosquitoes. Horrible things.
@@thethirdman225 wrong
@@rottenpancakes You sound like the voice of tolerance and experience...
@@thethirdman225 wich one had harmonics? I remember the lotus 79 sounded great but idk about harmonics
@@recipoldinasty Lots of them. The ones which sound musical. Probably the one I notice the most is the Arrows A3.
The sound and vibrations caused by the V 10 engine that you feel in every internal organ of your body, even when you are in the stands on a track, cannot be explained in words. They may not be as fast and maneuverable as today's F1 cars, but they certainly feel that way. Alonso's tour of Abu Dhabi looked and felt like a track record.
they are actualy faster and more maneuverable than modern f1 cars. they are lighter and smaller. if he would perfect the setup on this car in these runs he would be much faster than the pole time.
when you look at it you see he is just cruising around not even close to the limit of the car.
it would be a big problem for f1 if he would have drove it on the limit with the perfect set up and beat the pole time easily.
The V8 and V10 era was amazing, being lucky enough to be there to watch many races and in the mid to late 2000s get up close and personal they were truly a machine like no other. Not only were your ears left ringing from the sound, but you felt it go through your body. They were one of angry refinement, with the look of a alpha predator.
V8's is what got me into F1, Seb Absolutely Dominating the Buddh International Circuit, the cars flying by at over 15k rpm. 315+kmph at times, ahhhhhh... Those days. But till date I have always dreamt of seeing V10's back in action.
Sorry if I went overboard, EMOTIONS😅
I was at Indy 2004..right on the main straight..no ear plugs!! loved it!
@@J1Z06 I use to go to the Indy on the Gold Coast in Australia and yes the sound was amazing, more so because much of the track had high rise hotels and apartment buildings surrounding it so the sound would bounce back.
@@irrationalgeographic9953 I’m sure that was awesome. I’m referring to Indy in America. Indiana.
oh my oh my... i had tears in my eyes when i heard it. that was the f1 i loved so much
This is just a show car and look how close the times were! Imagine doing all the fine tuning of engine & chassis for maximum performance.
My thoughts exactly. Not to mention this 2005 v10 was limited compared to 2004. Plus medium tyres...
How about that this car was not made for these tyres? And tyre are everything in f1.
Also, when these v10's drive by at full speed, you don't just need ear plugs, you feel it in your chest. There's just nothing like it.
Those engines make such a wonderful symphony to the ears
This was the actual car he drove. He mentioned in an interview that his sticker with the layout of the China gp was still on the inside from when he won the championship there.
New f1 rule proposition:
- Remove all existing rules
- add new rule allowing anything that gets your car around the track the fastest but does not effect the performance of other cars, (aero turbulence, canons full of live turtles etc...)
Can we also just acknowledge how beautiful the R25 (and that era of Formula 1 cars in general) is... IT'S GORGEOUS.
Remember when a Renault engine played God Save the Queen with 19,000 rpm's?
Top gear it was the hamster first time he was so scared I loved the eps
Yes I do remember that! I'd forgotten about it until now.
Fuck your queen. Hope she rots in Hell.
ua-cam.com/video/2hMd-61rvpw/v-deo.html
@@happilyaverageracer I remember the sound of those engines. When F1 came out with the new ones that beautiful sound was goe
We want the 3.0L V10 again!!!
with ERS!! that would be amazing.
@@MyKakec I reckon that they might hit 400 kph mark with that
I'd rather have the v8's.
V12, 4L.
@@Charliechorizo calm down mate, we gotta this bout emmisions 😂😂
Love the V 10's, but being a geriatric 72 year old, my true love is the V-12's
1991 Ferrari is Godlike
Same here, Des.
V10 harmonics are different. Subjective of course, but find a video of Lexus LFA and see if that doesn't put a grin on your face. F1 V12s can sound great but do not have the harmonics that a V10 can produce.
I would really love to read what you, sir, think about current state of F1.
I have stopped watching Formula 1. I now watch Moto GP. Much more action, great sound, no "bought" seats, phenomenal skills and closer racing.
I remember watching that same car perform demo laps with Alonso at the wheel in around 2007. The noise was absolutely ferocious, like a hundred lions roaring at their enemy.
Even just making the cars lighter and nimble would be more exciting then what we have today
Weight: no, safety issues
Size: nope, crash structures and regulations
You actually can. Smaller car, lighter weight needs less aero to do the same magic. And you get better racing as less air is moved around. No refuel and the hybrid system takes the most space even more than the driver does.
I absolutely love the cars of the pre-hybrid era. However, I just wonder whether Romain Grosjean would have been able to walk away from his recent crash in one of this era's cars. But when all is said and done, that V10 sound.................!
Damn. Bring this stuff back. We need this so bad.
I love this. This is Engine music. The 3 Liter V10 was the best F1 Engine of all time! If they would drive with these Cars, then I would watch it again.
I miss Fernando winnings, I hope we could see him winning again and again and hopefully the 2022 Renault E tech would be that winning machine to help drive Fernando into his 3rd driver title 🙏🙏
I've been to 7 Grand Prix in the V-10 era, my only regret is that I didn't get to see them more. 25 years waiting this sport, never missing a practice, qualifying, and race and all I want is to see another V-10 in action in person
I can only imagine. Never heard a F1 race in person and only heard Marc Gene take the F2003 around Road Atlanta a couple of years ago from a friend's shop behind the track. Louder than anything I've heard around that track.
@@pro-seriesfabrication3810 My first f1 was 2000 or 2001 I sat at the start/finish line (2nd level 4th row) and purposely took my ear plugs out to hear all of the cars go by at the start. I shit you not, by the time they all went by I had the worst headache that stayed with me for the entire Grand Prix lol. Yea the were insanely loud!!! Used to park 2 miles from the track at Indy and could hear them from the house I parked at.
Alonso lap time with the old machine is amazing 👍🏼💪
Without any DRS or ERS may I add.
@@gamerzone0764 But with modern tyres.
@@RichardASK 4sec of the pace, just the sound, that one was lighter aswell
@@mathiasforslund7725 15 year old brake and suspension technology. To a large degree, it is the electric assistance, that gives better acceleration out of corners and the modern aero allowing higher cornering speed. If the V10 engine was used and mated to a modern car, it could possibly be quicker, but one thing for certain, it would sound fantastic. Sadly, it won't happen.
@@RichardASK yes.
I remember going to f1's tests in Jerez before 2005 season and hearing these cars roaring from a kilometer or more of distance from the circuit. They sounded like caza jets, it was insane and I will always remember how impressed I got cause even if you could tell they were noisy by watching them in television it's nothing compared to reality.
If you're within 5km of the circuit you would hear that thing. Amazing engines!
The sound of the R25 coming down the straight was the most exciting thing to happen to F1 in 15 years. I certainly hope the bosses took good notes and study them.
they have that's why they phased the V10 out lol
I hope that you are being hyperbolic.
Gasly’s win? Perez’s win? Literally any good overtake?
@@diegoramos3115 not sure what your reply has to do with my post
@@jabroni6199 dunno, maybe those were exciting things that happened in the last 15 years? actually just the last year. we had so many amazing moments in f1 in the past 15 years. I agree the v10 sound awesome but the v6 aren't that bad at all imo and the f1 is still as exciting as ever and if people don't agree i don't know what to tell em like... we got Perez first win, Gasly's redemption year, Lewis making history, Leclerc dragging that trashcan of a car on the podium twice, Russell on a merc, Lando's first podium, sub 1min laps (yup still interesting imo), the return of imola and more all in this season... last season we had the first ferrari win at monza in like 10 years, we had the german grand prix, two Toro Rosso's podiums, a McLaren podium after like 8 years or something and more... how is all of this not exciting?
I once bought a car because of the sound it made..... in my youth, when your heart rules your head - Formula 1 is an emotional experience - the current cars need more soul
Mate I think everyone did buy a car based on the sound it made some point in their life...
@@MIGBMWLOVER case rested 💁🏻♂️
Absolutely spot on Benjamin!👍
I bought my Yamaha MT10(have a listen to a CP4 engine), because of the sound it's engine makes and it's why electric will never truly take over from IC engines.
I have an rx8 and the sound above 6k is absolutely amazing!!! I’m gonna try to import a 1990s Honda cbr250rr (250cc in-line 4) purely because it revvs to 20k.
2000 was the greatest year for F1 cars. From 2001 onwards they started to have traction control and launch control which made the handling more sterile and screwed up the clear engine sound of the 2000 cars.
To watch a clear example of this, look up the incredible video of the 2000 Suzuka qualifying battle between Mika Hakkinen and Michael Schumacher.
That Renault had such a beautiful shape. I was really shocked to see how much larger the current cars are. I never realized they had grown so much in size.
definitely we are missing that sound in modern F-1
The hybrid era is by far the most boring I have experienced.
So it's boring because of engine sounds?
It's boring because there is no competition and it's over-regulated.
@@truantray All of the above. Bureaucracy destroys everything it touches.
@@braydenbonifas4305 fast =/= exciting
Brayden Bonifas, f1 speed is regulated. Any car can be the fastest car.
V8 is most exciting for me, the races were always close even when vettel dominated
The V 10 era was great. Not just the sound but the ability to push cars and engines to the limit. You didn't have to run a engine five races or worry about fuel consumption. In between races you ran the cars on track and developed it through the year, you didn't have just two or three days of testing.
Can't beat the V10's, went to many GP's in Melbourne of that era with Schumacher.
I grew up in the 2007 era of F1 but when I watched older races from 2000 upwards, God the V10 sound was amazing.
imagine them bringing back these cars, it would be a dream come true and i would feel like a kid again :D
😁 ✌️ True
2014 was the first season with the turbo V6s. I made it two races into the season before abandoning the sport, after being a fan for two decades.
2005 was actually my first year of watching F1, so I'll always have a great deal of love for that Renault. It's an amazing looking AND sounding car
Lewis reaction when alonso blasted by says it all !
"Goosebumps" V-10 SOUNDS OF JOY 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Being older, the Grand Prix car of my youth was the Lotus of the 60's, or in my teens, Tyrrell with Stewart and Cevert., But the V12s and V-10s became my favorites, they had a sound that reached in and grabbed your soul and shook it.
The sound was amazing i fell in love as a child when i first watched F1 on TV and was quickly sold😂
I heard and have seen it live here in Abu Dhabi. That is an unbelievable feeling I will never forget in my life. The most sweetest sound I have ever heard.
Yeah most of us are missing those v10 sexy sounding cars FIA please bring them back
FIA doesn't care they have turned a blind eye towards what the viewers want, whereas that should be one of the first priorities, you know .... Seeing that its a sport at the end of the day. F2 F3, even super formula is more interesting to watch nowadays.
@@gamerzone0764 because viewers are not the only concern, it's not that simple
Heard a V10 in person for the first time in Canada 1999, it was Schumacher on a practice lap and after he went by me I think I didn’t blink for about 20 seconds. What a beautiful frightening musical bonanza it was. Today’s cars although fast are just not the same.
Every time I mow my lawn I imagine I'm driving a hybrid V6 car around my yard . The sound of my mower is just so strikingly similar .
Yes, the sound today is very much like a fat man mowing his lawn with a Toro after drinking a few beers and flatulating his way around the property. Good for you for figuring that out.
@@avohill4 Please don't conflate your fantasy with my lawn mowing day dream . Two totally different scenarios . Besides your analogy sounds more like "future" F1 using Bio fuels .
*Goosebumps
I have been to Indy on and off my whole life, the V10s reverberating down the straight was literally goosebumps.... will never forget the sound!
They really need to bring back V10 engines man.. like the sound was what made F1 so special
V10 still the best Era, i really love all V10 sound when run on the track.
Vettel : bring back f**King v12s
I have to admit that watching Alonso lapping Yas in that car really made that circuit look less boring. That Renault was redeeming grace, so to speak. And Alonso was really lighting it up. Beautiful.
"If you showed a non-F1 fan Alonso lapping in his R25, would they even know it's not a modern car?" You hit the nail on the head. Speed isn't the only thing F1 needs. Although, the V10's are wicked fast. 2 seconds off modern cars, but no DRS or KERS? Dang... and there's no way they were running it in qualy mode like the modern cars were on Saturday.
F1 engineers have said, with the modern CDF techniques they use for aero development now, that alone would make V-10 era cars 2-4 seconds faster. Add DRS and slicks made specifically for them and you're looking at cars that could easily compete with current day cars while looking and sounding far more spectacular doing it.
@@booshank2327 That would be so amazing to see! Also you posted on another R25 video I watched a few days ago. Looks like we are on a similar F1 V10 binge ^^. Cheers!
@@Carpythesharky Ha! I am mate, yes. With another season coming around I'm megadosing on what I miss, I won't be watching again this season. Last season was the first time I didn't watch any races. Up until 2019 I didn't miss a single race or quali session since beginning watching back in 1997 as a kid. I clung on for as long I possibly could in the hybrid era, but the spectacle and competition are both dead and I couldn't kid myself any longer, just not the sport I fell in love with.
You're saying what nearly everyone is thinking.
F1 without the sound is just some cars going fast.
That sound IS the essence of true Formula 1.
I loved watching F1 during V10 years, never missed a race.
You couldn’t pay me to watch the crap today...haven’t watched in years.
Same situation. The old fans doesn’t like this, and the new generarions of kids don’t look interesting this...
You aren't missing much
Same here mate
Same lmao
Same :/
Love both late 60s cars, when 3 litre engines came back, and late 80s, before active suspension and paddle shifters. It was great to hear the variety of sounds in the grid, from the V8s to the V12s.
Missing the V12/10 era. I grew up with this sound and had pleasure hearing them scream at Long Beach.
It’s a stirring sound. Miss it terribly. I watch old UA-cam to relive that sound😣
Been watching F1 since the early 80's. My favourite era BY FAR is the late 90's to early 2000's. Something about those engines.
I remember standing in Adelaide then Melbourne CBDs and being amazed that I could hear them so clearly from so far away. At the track you didn't just hear them (ear plugs mandatory), you felt them - in your chest, like a rocket launch or after-burning jet taking off.
I remember the early 90s: 3.5L V8, V10 and V12 engines. And I remember being at the Spa 24h where 4,5,6,8,10,12 cylinder engines were all on track. Every car sounded different, and that is great: variety. So, give me V12s or variety.
I totally agree with this. Why don't they just set fuel regulations which dictate how much fuel should the engines consume. Engineering has come so far forward since the 90's heck ever 2010's.
I grew up during the V10 and V8 era and that sound really brought me close to my childhood
The V10 era was by far the best ever in F1 history. I got the chills everytime cause i was young but i still remember the sound and how you feel it in your whole body when it passes you. I absolutely don't care about the 1-2 seconds less they get today (don't get me wrong, 1-2 seconds is enormous in race times).
I remember going to the circuit in that era and the sound when drivers downshifted 3 or 4 gears for tight corners i will never forget.
The V10's were amazing, but my favorite is still the V12's like the Ferrari 412 T2 from 1995.
Most commenters weren't even born them I'm guessing.
"I was".... yeah I said most not all, short of a poll we won't know for definite.
Not only the sound of its v12 but the car itself gorgeous simplicity
AMEN!
Nah, the V10s sound better, v12s are a close second tho
@@XBullitt16X but v12 cars are the most gorgeous F1 cars ever made
Still watching in this raceless sunday... Loved that era, the sound, the vibration crossing Monza's bridges form one side to the other of the circuit... Hell, they were glorious times...
You can't help but be impressed by the sound of these cars. I miss the noise so much!
Please bring back the spectacle!
Drs was the beginning of the end for me being an f1 fan. It’s fake racing.
why does everyone hate drs?
@@ShivSai123456 It adds to artificial competition. Yes it used to be harder to overtake, but those overtakes that did occur were truly earned with courage and craft. Nothing fun about knowing the car honing in on the back of another is just going to sail by on the next straight. DRS should be used for quali and maybe in races all cars can use it once a lap anywhere on track, so that people can defend with it as well as attack.
I agree, I think they're getting rid of it for the 2022 regulations tho
Don't get blinded by nostalgia , let's not forget that the only reason drs is even a thing is because that the races were becoming boring with very little overtakes , drs was introduced to increase overtakes per race
@@ShivSai123456 People forget that most of the passing didn't happen on track during the 00's, it happened in the pits when they were refueling.
We all WANT to see more passing in F1, but that won't happened without help. And anytime they put in something to help with the passing people complain about it be artificial, so you can't win the argument.
DRS is necessary because the cars have a hard time passing each other on track because of the aerodynamic backwash generated by the cars, hopefully all the changes to next years basic car design will make a big difference. Another trick they can try is push-to-pass, now that the cars are stuck in the same engine mode all race they can give the drives X number of minutes of 50 extra HP during the race that they can deploy how they see fit. That wouldn't be as bad as DRS because you can use it to defend as well, so it's more fair.
I fell in love with f1 when i heard 2011 V8s at the european GP... Hearing it coming from a mile away was so scary but so beautiful at the same time..
I didn't know what I had. Was too young not to realise F1 wouldn't always sound like that. I took it for granted. Please bring it back.
well said my friend, I totally agree.
I'm 28 years old, but the sounds of the V8 turbos(MP 4/6 specifically) are my favorite in F1. Bless all the engines of F1, and hope the future has more *PERSONALITY*
When everybody sees, feels, hears and knows what is better: it is not a bias.
Going to the Montreal GP for the first time in this era you would feel the sound in your lungs. Amazing
I grew up in the v10 era by far what attracted me to the sport was that amazing sound, no matter who you are it grabs your attention!
That sound it made my eyes water it transported me , for me the days when a privateer could come to the table and win were the best early 70 s onwould
I grew up watching F1 in the late 1980s, so naturally, I'm a huge Senna fan and always will be. The V10 F1 cars of between 2001 and 2006 I feel are the best F1 cars as an engine formula. For me undoubtedly, the best F1 car is history is the McLaren MP4-4, but the V10 sound is just mesmerizing and is what has defined F1 for a long time. If you heard that 19,000 rpm V10 engine scream, you instantly knew it's an F1 car.
Awesome! i agree with the title, it is whats missing!
We need these engines back. The sound drew me in back in 1999. 1999 I went to my first ChampCar race when they ran high revs and 900hp. Not quite the sound of these F1 cars but the sound was amazing and you could feel the shift change in your chest! Watching this reminds of how great both cars sounded back then. We need the sound, revs, and bigger engines back in F1 and IndyCar.
Sound was mind blowing - whole body felt it...god it was good, esp 20 of them at the start line...
Amazing. I was memorized. I especially enjoyed the reaction Lewis had.
I’ve been to races and heard the V10, V8, and V6s. They all sound incredible in person but for TV audio the V10 or V12 is the way to go.
V6's do sound nicer in person, but they are a lot quieter than the v8s in person.
There is nothing better than the sound
I’ll never forget the first time I watched an f1 Grand Prix, I was 9 years old and it was the Canadian GP I was blown away at the shear awesomeness of those V10’s screaming, they were like fighter jets on wheels to me.
I cried when I heard that sound because it brings up memories from times where things were good
The first time I heard one of the “old” V-10’s, it shook me to my soul, not to mention my soles. It is absolutely breathtaking. I went to Spa after they were retired, and was sadly disappointed at the bland sounding modern cars.
I feel blessed that I was able to see a F1 race in the V10 era (Montreal 2004). The sound is something you will never forget. I agree that the late 90's early 2000's era is the best, but I may be biased as it was the era where my country (Canada) got our only World Champion to date
In my whole life my neighbors never complained about loud music, but when I watched F1 in Japan or Australia with the V10s they nearly knocked down my door! 🤣🤣🤣🤣