How are you using you Blackcbox?? For me it's a fun device that's pretty straight-forward if you're looking to play sync'd longer stems/backing tracks during a live performance. Or use it the way I like, as a live looper but in a studio setting :)
@RickyTinez the Korg Electribe wave on an iPad 11 pro upwards .. is magic for this. It doesn’t live sample… but it has a very powerful and fun drum machine which you can load your sample in from the wifi…and then you have 8 wave table synths that you can record parts live and on the fly. I am getting rid of my elktron analog rytm ii because this $50 app is light years away. Adding a novation sl mkiii is a chefs kiss to this app. Every part has a Korg kaos pad as well.
Have you check out the OP-Z? Aside from being a powerful sequencer it also does the things you mentioned in the beginning. You can create a loop (pattern) then copy and paste to a free slot (up to 16) and make new changes to that loop. By the end it sounds like a totally different track, but you can seamlessly go back to previous patterns all staying within tempo. Awesome way to perform live and make an entire song on one device. Not to mention you can sample and have midi through with whatever gear you want to add.
I use it for all kinds of things including multisampling, one-cycle samples, midi sequencing, drums, sliced stuff, granular... This thing is awesome. Fanboy out
I have a Blackbox and an SP404 mkII, and I’m just not all that skilled in production. I’ve made a few beats, and these devices are insanely fun, but I’m still too fresh to understand why I would need both. Scared I’ll sell one and regret it! Blackbox is great for “stealing” a synth, but I can’t figure out how to get mod control, so I can add wiggle from my KeyStep Pro.
I use mine as a groovebox on the couch for when I have random ideas I want to quickly sketch out. It's so much fun! I'd love to know what anyone thinks of my latest Blackbox song here: ua-cam.com/video/npYViqLYXcY/v-deo.html
The longer sample stopped playing because it needed to stream from the microSD card that you removed. Shorter samples can play from memory. The best practice is to save your preset before you pull the microSD card out. Then reload the preset to reconnect the file. Thanks for showing us how you use the blackbox. It’s always great to see different approaches.
True, and the BB forums are active. Just not a lot of musicians highlighting how they use it (in comparison to other similar pieces of gear). Happy to see it here!
@@jimshannononsounds same same, might just have to push it up the to-buy list -.- I already have the blue box and it's the best mixer/multi-track recorder I could hope for. The black box would be the finishing touch in my setup ^^
So weird...I was up half the night trying to sort out looping on my 1010BlkBox and here you are the next day. Thank you for confirming the right settings for getting a tight loop...the manual is great but it can be tricky to understand sometimes.
Been a joy watching what you put out the last couple years- your enthusiasm is a gift. I appreciate your continued explorations of the BB, it's a lovely machine!
Very happy Blackbox owner here. I just bought a Midifighter Twister to go with it so I can now do volume / filter / start / rec on each pad without faffing about on the touch screen. Amazing device!
headrush makes one called the looper board. It will let you decide if your first loop you record sets the length of the loop, or if you want it predetermined length, you can set that up, or a third option it will just let you freewheel loops in case you want your loops to easily go off the rails and get out of sync, lol. It has 4 different loop channels and has some very clever stuff going on with loop length and quantization type of stuff. It is a pedal board that is probably geared more towards guitarists, but I think anyone could use it. The new Roland desktop looper will do that too. But sometimes you might have to do some trickery, like start out with a 4 bar drum loop pre recorded so that it sets the loop length automatically (which was a trick I used on the older Roland sometimes) One nice thing I think I remember about the Looper Board is that not all the loops have to be the same length, so even if you start out with a 4 bar drum loop, if you record a 32 bar bass loop over top of it, it has no problem with that. Which used to be way more of a problem in the early days of loopers. I'm glad to see more coming out. I always wanted one that had 4 or more separate tracks that I could assign each to a separate output, which we are finally seeing. Thank the stars. I even looked at using Ableton Live as a live looper to achieve this. There was some smaller more proprietary software loopers that popped up, but none really spoke to me. I think my mind aligns with the concept of the Looper Board more than most others, but this is my first time seeing this one and I really like the smaller desktop (or micstand mounted) form factor. Cool. I'm willing to bet you can hook up some midi control pedals to it and get foot control if you wanted that. I can't imagine they didn't think of that.
I agree 100%. I’ve been using a Blackbox at my DJ gigs for years. I have probably 35 hours of material on it (with some originals mixed in). It just works great and is super reliable. I’m a tota newbie compared to you and learned a few new things from your vid. Thank you.
Check check. Love it. I am using Push 3 Standalone for this workflow. I also feed 5 stereo channels out of the push into a model 1 mixer to mix loops on the go and record them back into the Push as new loops or tracks etc. But the Blackbox is intriguing, especially because it is small.
@@RickyTinezexactly. And it feels great to have a proper mixer with its two sends and filters at my fingertips. I also use this setup live for my improv Techno duo, Draaht. The Push is basically used as a looper and FX unit, most of the sound is done with external, analog synthesizers, but of course I could also easily use Push’s synths instead. But I like my setup to be hands on.
YES! I had a live techno gig I had to play once and I didn't want to take my modular out so I spent a bit of time sampling modular loops and had about 32 4 bar loops so fast and I was ready to roll
In case one day you dive more into iOS music production, loopy pro can also do something like this and a lot more configurable possibilities. Big love from Portugal!
If you own an iPad (Pro) then absolutely #LoopyPro for this kind of #workflow, and more. My opinion on devices like the BB, is that it offers to less ‘hardwarediness’ for me to buy it as an instrument. That said, the demonstrated workflow is great, and the result has some melty 🧀 summer vibes, too 🌅🏖️
Hey Ricky, I love this so much! Since the BlackBox only has one input, is there any chance you could do a video on how you wire up to get multiple sound sources to communicate with each other? Thanks!
Always enjoy your content! What is that handheld mic you are using? I’d love something like that. I appreciate that sincere and humble love of music you always display. Your musicality is off the charts!
I like that use of your very own voice! Weird thing: it’s something I stumbled upon a lot recently - while I totally neglected this in my own messing around. Funny though, that using the own voice is the most natural starting point one could think off: humming, whistling, random vocals that come to mind … … and it’s a great ground work to expand upon, no matter whether it survives along the way in one shape or another - or if it just evolves into something else. Great video on that Blackbox workflow, Ricky, thanks for sharing this one! 😊
I'm using the RC-505 mk2 because it does all those wants and needs you mentioned but the layout is all right in front of you. Even more simple than the Blackbox with its big Fisher Price buttons. But I just added the Blackbox to use in conjunction with the RC-505 because there's things the Blackbox can do as a sampler and sequencer that the RC-505 can't because it's just a looper. The Blackbox is so much more than just a looper. It's a whole bunch of things and it's excellent at all those things.
Please more of these blackbox/digitakt/synth jams. Also... those vocals, they are... Solid and they totally fit the music you're making. You can be confident when using them to add the spice/flavour to your songs! 🙏
Love it, this is why I kept the BB. This is a great workflow. Plug in a zoom multi-stomp for cheap effects for resampling and you can stay dawless. - great way to unplug from the computer after a day of work.
@@minimal3734 in the Zoom? the BB has the absolute worst SNR we have on the market, worse than the analog consoles of the 1970s, and nevermind it's digital.
What i like about this demo is that the record quantize was easy to change per slot. I think this is similar to what bink beats looper gives you in ableton but way more straight to the point here. I was always hesitant to look at this device because it has 1/8” ins, and combined with the higher price tag and no place to try it out in advance in Toronto. Will take a second look, would even like to consider it for acoustic instruments off of the tempo grid.
Toraiz SP-16 is the king of this. 16 tracks available per project, each one can be a stereo sample track, MIDI track or a Thru/FX track. Get a loop going on an external machine, grab a 1, 4, 16bar etc loop on the SP, move to the next track, get another loop going, grab it on the SP, move to the next track, rinse, repeat. You can build up an entire song in very little time without ever having to stop the sequencer once. There are definitely drawbacks to the machine but this is one of the things it does very well. Samples are stretched in real time to whatever BPM the current project is so you can use them again in different projects with different BPMs. Projects can then be exported later in to Ableton as well.
Keep it groovin g! Just Re-Picked up the blackbox after about 2years of being without it and I've been FLOWING!!! I'm gonna have to upload some vids. now.. Action brings action! Good stuff!
I needed to find this channel before I knew it even existed! Nothing happens before its time, I guess. Thanks for doing what you do, Ricky! I'm locked in!
I'm pretty sure the 1010 nanobox tangerine will do this workflow. Tangerine is essentially a Blackbox lite. I doesn't do granular or piano roll and it only has 8 sample pads vs 16 on the Blackbox. Tangerine has improved DACs though.
Loopy Pro for iPad can do this and so much more. In the case of Loopy Pro being a touch interface, it adds to the speed and ease of use instead of being a hindrance like some other apps.
The only issue with loopy pro (which can be solved with presets from other people) is I have to be smart enough to work out how to do what I want it to do Haha that’s why I do like some machines that are specific with their workflow
Strange behavior of UA-cam deleting or not storing replies… but wanted to add a +1 for #iPad and #LoopyPro in particular. The reason I don’t buy a BB is for its lack of ‘instrumentness’. I can see its usefulness as a loop recorder, as nicely demonstrated with this great cheesy summer vibes 😉 🌅 🏖️👍🏻 When you already own an iPad (Pro) then Loopy Pro has so much to offer, especially when you connect a MIDI controller. In my case I use a #BeatStep Pro that’s rebuild on screen to mimic the controls.
New update from the SP404 MKII got a cool live looping feature. I would say it's one update away from being able to convert your overdub to a pad [SHIFT] + [COPY]
Teenage Engineering OP-Z does what you’re looking for very well! You can create a loop (pattern) then copy and paste to a free slot (up to 16) and make new changes to that loop. By the end it sounds like a totally different track, but you can seamlessly go back to previous patterns all staying within tempo. Awesome way to perform live and make an entire song on one device. Not to mention you can sample and have midi through with whatever gear you want to add.
I do all that with Ableton live and I hate it 😊 this is exactly what I do but without using computer. And that is perfect with my digitakt. Thanks Ricky!!!
Responding to your questions at the top of the vid-you've tried the Synthstrom Deluge, right? Seems to check all of the boxes you've mentioned, unless I'm not quite understanding your definition of wanting to add to loops without adding to the same track. You can do that on the Deluge. There's a very simple re-sample workflow, too, where you can basically record whatever sound the device is outputting and quickly trim that to perfectly fit into your loop.
Ricky this is the millionth time I’ve been toying around with a workflow idea in my head/piece I’ve been eyeing that you’ve serendipitously made a video on 🤣✨
The blackbox is great if you only have like one drum & one melody synth: 1. record loops (if your name isn't Ricky, zoom in like crazy and get start and end exactly right in editing) 2. use a sequencer to start these loops via MIDI to build a song (I'm using the external hardware sequencer Polyend Seq for that, as the internal 1010 sequencer has the tiniest bars and is very hard to control, also I never understood the 1010 "song mode"). So while it's handy to try out loop placement with the Blackbox's touch screen, I prefer to get a an exact start via MIDI with a sequencer (and also change velocity if needed) - I can then think of other things, like cutoff when playing my song. I usually send "beats" and "melodies" to different outputs on the blackbox to apply outboard effects like EQ, compression or sidechain to different parts of the song, so the freely assignable outputs (1, 2 and headphones) are very valuable to me too. 😍
I own and like the Blackbox, but if you're working from a desk you could also just use any midi controller and Ableton. It is nice that the Blackbox can do this but I'm generally using it more to play back longer samples. Not sure that I'd ever want to be messing around with changing loop and record settings on the device for live looping when I can do it easier in Ableton and just have a setup where the recording is routed to cue to be able to confirm everything before sending it out to the mix. And if you need to re-record, no one will ever know. Nothing against the Blackbox, it's a great little piece of hardware, the main thing is that I don't know if you can midi-map a lot of this on it so you aren't trying to use the screen and adjusting controls in a live situation. When you can just make an Ableton template that can do all of it in a far more capable and versatile way. And for a lot cheaper, it's less than 1/4 the price of a Blackbox for the standard edition which does all of this better.
It is a keeper. Love it every time :D I mostly use it to record field recordings and mangle them together in some ambient way. Also its fun to groove along with it and just jam.
Saw you at the synth expo in Hollywood last week. Good stuff! Love my Blackbox too! I actually had the Blackbox at the expo and plugged it in to a couple different peddles. Fun times.
BB is now how I assemble all of my tracks. Best investment I made in gear, in more than a few years, especially at the price! I quit using Ableton, and computers/tablet/phone for music, in general, in around 2014, after being an AL user since 2001. (Before that, Propheads Reason, and before that, pre-Sony Acid Pro.) Blackbox, to me, is a completely minimalized Ableton Live, with just 16 clips. I make more (And probably better) music, when I have less options. Moving away from using a DAW with every tool needed, built-in, just to bring all my gear together in finished tracks, to working solely with hardware, threw up a set of serious challenges, that BB actually removed. I couldn't be happier with mine! Really fast to get a good sounding track rolling, then fun to jam that track, real-time!
@@user-dt9kk6sg8z I create a mixture of some recorded loops of whatever gear I have an idea for, as well as sample, slice, then sequence slices into a few variations of parts, pretty much how I've always used Ableton Live, apart from how I also used a few VST's in Live, and Acid. All of my VST'S these days, are not VST's. I also have a large library of samples I have either created /or collected over the last 30 or so years, which I also use for sequencing, and such.
That's awesome! the "minimized Ableton Live" is the vibe I get from it too! Hearing that it's at the center and you can just record takes onto is cool. You ever think about the Bluebox for things like that too?
That workflow reminds me of the Deeler program that Menomena made in MAX/MSP. They used it for songwriting, but originally it was used for live performance.
Ricky, as Johnny Cash once said to Terry Gross: "You are really good at what you do." One tip: mount your overhead camera on rhe ceiling or a wall-to-wall pipe. Its bouncing a lot at times in this video. I'm guessing you have it boomed way out or clamped to the desk out of the cameras view? That said, one thing you do well is to focus on the music (the gear only to the extent that it makes the music, not the GAS monetization) and keep it all low key. Good work! Keep it up!
Hey ricky Always a relaxing pleasure to watch your videos I love the blackbox It s actualy my main inspiration instrument .realy great for ambiant using the slicer and randomized trigs
My brother I'm sure I've typed this to you before .. the best live looper/ sequencer/ sampler by far is the Deluge .."it's live looping functions are off the chart .. plus infinite bar length & unlimited tracks ..that sheeeet is crazy ...for live mangling I guess it's all about the OT ..and I like this video and have thought about the black box a few times ...maybe I will get the Euro rack version . Thank you .
@@shifteleven yes it does ... or you can have it just follow the length of the previous loop . But there also a few more looping options .. far too many for me to type ..lol
@@siccavicca do you have a page reference in the manual? I would even take a quick description on how to set a predefined bar loop length. I don’t see it in the section I was reading on audio recording and a web search didn’t show much either
the deluge crowd wants to take us back to stone age. THAT design, UI and UX, and THAT screen... a dinosaur. mk2 please. ps: it's miles ahead of the BB ofc. just not a way forward. time to retire mk1 finally
@@shifteleven very sorry for the late response..ok I don't have a page number in the manual to provide you with .. but how ever I find that by opening a blank clip and going onto it I can set the numbers of bars I want to record into on the fly ,..it seems to work most of the time for me ..I've not checked out the new community firmware I'm just using the standard version..
Synthstrom Deluge is close, but may not do EXACTLY what you’re looking to do. Everything except the punch out as far as I know. It does have an undo button too which is very useful.
I kind of work with the same workflow on my two EHX2880 machines. I know it's the same for EHX45000, but I don't know if it's the same for EHX95000. As with the 1010 box, EHX2880 can midi sync, but limited to 4 mono or 2 stereo tracks, plus one mixdown (this is why I have two). On the EHX2880 machines, there are no effects and no smart layering of loops, but they have the Punch-In functionality that I personally need. With the EHX2880's Punch-In and Quantize functions engaged, I can keep recording on a loop, but it doesn't overdub in the traditional way, where you can hear the previous recorded loop. Instead, it just keeps recording over the previous loop until I'm happy with the take. So when I punch out on the device, or the foot controller (handy when you use both hands), I can punch out when the loop feels good, instead of stressing on getting the correct take in one go. This leaves more room for improvisation (for better and for worse) and also helps to fix loops with reverb trails, as I bake the effects into the loop a lot. If the 1010 box had the same Punch In function as the EHX2880 machines (which it might), it would be a shut-up-and-take-my-money situation for me. My workflow right now is looping on the EHX machines, and then recording them into OP1F when laying down the track. I can also at any time pull out the files from the EHX2880 straight into Ableton via CF card.
Man as soon as you touch BlackBox, 10 minutes after you have a banger track ready 🎉. the most inspirational modern gear for me. Ricky please convince Aron of #1010music to put an advanced arpeggiator and a chord mode (so to play triads by just pushing the small squares when live) and the perfection is achieved.
Maschine can do this if you set mode to "loop" and target to "sound" or "pattern". Recording to "sound" would be best if your plan is to put a bunch of different sounds in a single group. That would be similar to what you're doing with the blackbox. If you wanted to have a group with a bunch of shaker patterns you can switch between and another group with just bass loops and another for chords (keep going; you have as many groups as you want); then recording to patterns would make sense. You don't have 16 recording slots; you have as many as you want. You mentioned a long time ago that you used to use maschine but felt it always led you to creating the same song over and over. It might be worth a revisit.
How are you using you Blackcbox?? For me it's a fun device that's pretty straight-forward if you're looking to play sync'd longer stems/backing tracks during a live performance. Or use it the way I like, as a live looper but in a studio setting :)
@RickyTinez the Korg Electribe wave on an iPad 11 pro upwards .. is magic for this. It doesn’t live sample… but it has a very powerful and fun drum machine which you can load your sample in from the wifi…and then you have 8 wave table synths that you can record parts live and on the fly. I am getting rid of my elktron analog rytm ii because this $50 app is light years away. Adding a novation sl mkiii is a chefs kiss to this app. Every part has a Korg kaos pad as well.
Have you check out the OP-Z? Aside from being a powerful sequencer it also does the things you mentioned in the beginning.
You can create a loop (pattern) then copy and paste to a free slot (up to 16) and make new changes to that loop. By the end it sounds like a totally different track, but you can seamlessly go back to previous patterns all staying within tempo.
Awesome way to perform live and make an entire song on one device. Not to mention you can sample and have midi through with whatever gear you want to add.
I use it for all kinds of things including multisampling, one-cycle samples, midi sequencing, drums, sliced stuff, granular... This thing is awesome. Fanboy out
I have a Blackbox and an SP404 mkII, and I’m just not all that skilled in production. I’ve made a few beats, and these devices are insanely fun, but I’m still too fresh to understand why I would need both. Scared I’ll sell one and regret it! Blackbox is great for “stealing” a synth, but I can’t figure out how to get mod control, so I can add wiggle from my KeyStep Pro.
I use mine as a groovebox on the couch for when I have random ideas I want to quickly sketch out. It's so much fun!
I'd love to know what anyone thinks of my latest Blackbox song here: ua-cam.com/video/npYViqLYXcY/v-deo.html
The longer sample stopped playing because it needed to stream from the microSD card that you removed. Shorter samples can play from memory. The best practice is to save your preset before you pull the microSD card out. Then reload the preset to reconnect the file.
Thanks for showing us how you use the blackbox. It’s always great to see different approaches.
I wish there were more BlackBox videos on UA-cam!!!!
yeah it's deeply underated. It's the brain of my setup.
theres quite a bit from 1010 music going over almost every feature
@@videolabcreators I need to check those out! I feel like there's a lot I skip because I don't know it, mainly song mode/deeper sequencer capabilities
That’s true. I had one quite recently and I wish there were more people like Ricky to spark inspiration to play more with the device.
True, and the BB forums are active. Just not a lot of musicians highlighting how they use it (in comparison to other similar pieces of gear). Happy to see it here!
Me: Don’t need the Blackbox
Ricky: “Dance with me”
I've been wanting one of these boxes for a long time. Is 2024 the year I get one? Stay tuned.
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@@jimshannononsounds same same, might just have to push it up the to-buy list -.-
I already have the blue box and it's the best mixer/multi-track recorder I could hope for. The black box would be the finishing touch in my setup ^^
Also both blue and black boxes are USB hosts - which Elek... *ahem* other brands should probably consider in 2024.
Great that you‘re using your voice more and more in your tracks - nothing weird about at all! ❤️
I think it's completely acceptable to give yourself chills when you hear what you've just done and realize how totally perfect it sounds. :D
Been watching you for years and appreciate the vulnerability on this getting vocal with it. This was groovy✌️
I genuinely love how much you seem to love what you do.
So weird...I was up half the night trying to sort out looping on my 1010BlkBox and here you are the next day. Thank you for confirming the right settings for getting a tight loop...the manual is great but it can be tricky to understand sometimes.
Been a joy watching what you put out the last couple years- your enthusiasm is a gift. I appreciate your continued explorations of the BB, it's a lovely machine!
Very happy Blackbox owner here. I just bought a Midifighter Twister to go with it so I can now do volume / filter / start / rec on each pad without faffing about on the touch screen. Amazing device!
8:00 he had to bust out the STANK face! GREAT tune. Love these vids, Ricky - best time of the week!
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headrush makes one called the looper board. It will let you decide if your first loop you record sets the length of the loop, or if you want it predetermined length, you can set that up, or a third option it will just let you freewheel loops in case you want your loops to easily go off the rails and get out of sync, lol. It has 4 different loop channels and has some very clever stuff going on with loop length and quantization type of stuff. It is a pedal board that is probably geared more towards guitarists, but I think anyone could use it. The new Roland desktop looper will do that too. But sometimes you might have to do some trickery, like start out with a 4 bar drum loop pre recorded so that it sets the loop length automatically (which was a trick I used on the older Roland sometimes) One nice thing I think I remember about the Looper Board is that not all the loops have to be the same length, so even if you start out with a 4 bar drum loop, if you record a 32 bar bass loop over top of it, it has no problem with that. Which used to be way more of a problem in the early days of loopers. I'm glad to see more coming out. I always wanted one that had 4 or more separate tracks that I could assign each to a separate output, which we are finally seeing. Thank the stars. I even looked at using Ableton Live as a live looper to achieve this. There was some smaller more proprietary software loopers that popped up, but none really spoke to me. I think my mind aligns with the concept of the Looper Board more than most others, but this is my first time seeing this one and I really like the smaller desktop (or micstand mounted) form factor. Cool. I'm willing to bet you can hook up some midi control pedals to it and get foot control if you wanted that. I can't imagine they didn't think of that.
I agree 100%. I’ve been using a Blackbox at my DJ gigs for years. I have probably 35 hours of material on it (with some originals mixed in). It just works great and is super reliable. I’m a tota newbie compared to you and learned a few new things from your vid. Thank you.
Check check. Love it. I am using Push 3 Standalone for this workflow. I also feed 5 stereo channels out of the push into a model 1 mixer to mix loops on the go and record them back into the Push as new loops or tracks etc. But the Blackbox is intriguing, especially because it is small.
whoa that sounds like fun, I love the idea of being able to process a sound and get it back into the box quickly. like re-sample or bouncing it down
@@RickyTinezexactly. And it feels great to have a proper mixer with its two sends and filters at my fingertips. I also use this setup live for my improv Techno duo, Draaht. The Push is basically used as a looper and FX unit, most of the sound is done with external, analog synthesizers, but of course I could also easily use Push’s synths instead. But I like my setup to be hands on.
I recently got the blackbox for exactly this workflow.
Love it, especially for creating loops on the modular. It‘s so fast and so easy!
Me too. It was Ricky's modular looping video that got me.
YES! I had a live techno gig I had to play once and I didn't want to take my modular out so I spent a bit of time sampling modular loops and had about 32 4 bar loops so fast and I was ready to roll
@@mrsulcus674 yep! this video
In case one day you dive more into iOS music production, loopy pro can also do something like this and a lot more configurable possibilities. Big love from Portugal!
If you own an iPad (Pro) then absolutely #LoopyPro for this kind of #workflow, and more. My opinion on devices like the BB, is that it offers to less ‘hardwarediness’ for me to buy it as an instrument. That said, the demonstrated workflow is great, and the result has some melty 🧀 summer vibes, too 🌅🏖️
Abraço!
I use this workflow on the deluge and it works really well!
This will get even better as the stem exporting is going to get so much easier and better in the next firmware version.
@@madelinescyphers5413 this sounds very interesting! Haven’t heard about this. Is this in 1.1?
Hey Ricky, I love this so much!
Since the BlackBox only has one input,
is there any chance you could do a video on how you wire up to get multiple sound sources to communicate with each other?
Thanks!
Always enjoy your content! What is that handheld mic you are using? I’d love something like that.
I appreciate that sincere and humble love of music you always display. Your musicality is off the charts!
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I love 1010 music's line , I have found black box is a tremendous add on to my live rig .
That’s an awesome piece of kit. And nice house jam!
I like that use of your very own voice! Weird thing: it’s something I stumbled upon a lot recently - while I totally neglected this in my own messing around.
Funny though, that using the own voice is the most natural starting point one could think off: humming, whistling, random vocals that come to mind …
… and it’s a great ground work to expand upon, no matter whether it survives along the way in one shape or another - or if it just evolves into something else.
Great video on that Blackbox workflow, Ricky, thanks for sharing this one! 😊
This completely changed my mind about the blackbox, now I need one
I know this isn't the subject of the video, but holy smokes! Your hair is AMAZING! :D
The presentation is also great, of course. Thank you, Ricky.
I'm using the RC-505 mk2 because it does all those wants and needs you mentioned but the layout is all right in front of you. Even more simple than the Blackbox with its big Fisher Price buttons. But I just added the Blackbox to use in conjunction with the RC-505 because there's things the Blackbox can do as a sampler and sequencer that the RC-505 can't because it's just a looper. The Blackbox is so much more than just a looper. It's a whole bunch of things and it's excellent at all those things.
Please more of these blackbox/digitakt/synth jams.
Also... those vocals, they are...
Solid and they totally fit the music you're making. You can be confident when using them to add the spice/flavour to your songs! 🙏
Love it, this is why I kept the BB. This is a great workflow. Plug in a zoom multi-stomp for cheap effects for resampling and you can stay dawless. - great way to unplug from the computer after a day of work.
Do you put the FX in before you loop, so they're printed to the recording? I'm hoping 1010 will add the FX to the live input in an update.
zoom suits the blackbox nicely - both have horrific SQ
The internal delay and reverb are good. Only downside with the current firmware is that you can't have them on the monitored input signal.
@@minimal3734 in the Zoom? the BB has the absolute worst SNR we have on the market, worse than the analog consoles of the 1970s, and nevermind it's digital.
Okay Ricky with the sauce! This is dope man 🙌🏾
damn, sounds dope. Also, knowing your way around these devices helps a lot. Cool little project you made there.
What i like about this demo is that the record quantize was easy to change per slot. I think this is similar to what bink beats looper gives you in ableton but way more straight to the point here.
I was always hesitant to look at this device because it has 1/8” ins, and combined with the higher price tag and no place to try it out in advance in Toronto.
Will take a second look, would even like to consider it for acoustic instruments off of the tempo grid.
You have the most interesting and slickest music production channel on UA-cam. Thanks for all your content
Thanks for your time and attention!
The keeper of the groove, is at it again 😊
This is what it's all about.Yes I love this back to the source
1:20 I believe the AKAI Force does this? And you can get a used one for less than the price of a new blackbox
whoa I forgot about those! crazy to hear their prices have fell that much
Not all of us have enough free space for an Akai Force lol. Those things are huge
Toraiz SP-16 is the king of this. 16 tracks available per project, each one can be a stereo sample track, MIDI track or a Thru/FX track. Get a loop going on an external machine, grab a 1, 4, 16bar etc loop on the SP, move to the next track, get another loop going, grab it on the SP, move to the next track, rinse, repeat. You can build up an entire song in very little time without ever having to stop the sequencer once. There are definitely drawbacks to the machine but this is one of the things it does very well. Samples are stretched in real time to whatever BPM the current project is so you can use them again in different projects with different BPMs. Projects can then be exported later in to Ableton as well.
Keep it groovin g! Just Re-Picked up the blackbox after about 2years of being without it and I've been FLOWING!!! I'm gonna have to upload some vids. now.. Action brings action! Good stuff!
That's good news, you are one of the reasons I got hooked on the BB, glad to hear you are circling back on it!
I needed to find this channel before I knew it even existed! Nothing happens before its time, I guess. Thanks for doing what you do, Ricky! I'm locked in!
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
I am glad to see another video on this gear. It's becoming a favorite of mine. Easiest sampler I have ever worked with.
I'm pretty sure the 1010 nanobox tangerine will do this workflow. Tangerine is essentially a Blackbox lite. I doesn't do granular or piano roll and it only has 8 sample pads vs 16 on the Blackbox. Tangerine has improved DACs though.
Loopy Pro for iPad can do this and so much more. In the case of Loopy Pro being a touch interface, it adds to the speed and ease of use instead of being a hindrance like some other apps.
The only issue with loopy pro (which can be solved with presets from other people) is I have to be smart enough to work out how to do what I want it to do
Haha that’s why I do like some machines that are specific with their workflow
ooooooo checking this out now!
@@RickyTinezdefinitely does what you looking for! Cheers!
Was about to comment this, your list of wants at the start of the video I was like loopy pro every step lol
Strange behavior of UA-cam deleting or not storing replies… but wanted to add a +1 for #iPad and #LoopyPro in particular. The reason I don’t buy a BB is for its lack of ‘instrumentness’. I can see its usefulness as a loop recorder, as nicely demonstrated with this great cheesy summer vibes 😉 🌅 🏖️👍🏻 When you already own an iPad (Pro) then Loopy Pro has so much to offer, especially when you connect a MIDI controller. In my case I use a #BeatStep Pro that’s rebuild on screen to mimic the controls.
So many toys available now. It's overwhelming.
S2400 does live looping really well, overdub per track but also have up to 8 different loopers going at once.
You are about to be a legend after so many years delivering if you continue like that! 😃
New update from the SP404 MKII got a cool live looping feature. I would say it's one update away from being able to convert your overdub to a pad [SHIFT] + [COPY]
Teenage Engineering OP-Z does what you’re looking for very well!
You can create a loop (pattern) then copy and paste to a free slot (up to 16) and make new changes to that loop. By the end it sounds like a totally different track, but you can seamlessly go back to previous patterns all staying within tempo.
Awesome way to perform live and make an entire song on one device. Not to mention you can sample and have midi through with whatever gear you want to add.
I do all that with Ableton live and I hate it 😊 this is exactly what I do but without using computer. And that is perfect with my digitakt. Thanks Ricky!!!
Thanks! Got Digitakt 2 and Blackbox. 😊 What’s the brand of the mic? 😊
asking myself the same question
@@chema__gonzalez__ me too!
I’m fairly confident the deluge could do this too if you want to try another box!
OMG...I've been looking for a looper that can sync to MIDI and lock to a specific number of bars and here it is, under my nose the whole time.
Yes, I use this sampler together with my Roland Fantom 6 EX.
love the fun delivery!
Responding to your questions at the top of the vid-you've tried the Synthstrom Deluge, right? Seems to check all of the boxes you've mentioned, unless I'm not quite understanding your definition of wanting to add to loops without adding to the same track. You can do that on the Deluge. There's a very simple re-sample workflow, too, where you can basically record whatever sound the device is outputting and quickly trim that to perfectly fit into your loop.
Use the save pack function to keep the samples in the original track x
Ricky this is the millionth time I’ve been toying around with a workflow idea in my head/piece I’ve been eyeing that you’ve serendipitously made a video on 🤣✨
hahah! hell yes! The workflow is fun, and novel enough to keep it interesting. I think that's why I keep circling and coming back to it
WHOA! This is such a cool piece of equipment. Would love to get my hands on one of these!
What mic are you using to track on Blackbox?
That's the Critter & Guitari mic. Not sure if they're still selling them though. Pretty sweet if you can get one.
Ricky got good vibez.. great energy.. Preciate you
You’re funny! Like the combination of explaining and jamming at the same time.
I am using the 1010Music Tangerine for exactly the same 'trick' but it's orange and more nano 😉
The blackbox is great if you only have like one drum & one melody synth: 1. record loops (if your name isn't Ricky, zoom in like crazy and get start and end exactly right in editing) 2. use a sequencer to start these loops via MIDI to build a song (I'm using the external hardware sequencer Polyend Seq for that, as the internal 1010 sequencer has the tiniest bars and is very hard to control, also I never understood the 1010 "song mode").
So while it's handy to try out loop placement with the Blackbox's touch screen, I prefer to get a an exact start via MIDI with a sequencer (and also change velocity if needed) - I can then think of other things, like cutoff when playing my song.
I usually send "beats" and "melodies" to different outputs on the blackbox to apply outboard effects like EQ, compression or sidechain to different parts of the song, so the freely assignable outputs (1, 2 and headphones) are very valuable to me too. 😍
I own and like the Blackbox, but if you're working from a desk you could also just use any midi controller and Ableton. It is nice that the Blackbox can do this but I'm generally using it more to play back longer samples. Not sure that I'd ever want to be messing around with changing loop and record settings on the device for live looping when I can do it easier in Ableton and just have a setup where the recording is routed to cue to be able to confirm everything before sending it out to the mix. And if you need to re-record, no one will ever know. Nothing against the Blackbox, it's a great little piece of hardware, the main thing is that I don't know if you can midi-map a lot of this on it so you aren't trying to use the screen and adjusting controls in a live situation. When you can just make an Ableton template that can do all of it in a far more capable and versatile way. And for a lot cheaper, it's less than 1/4 the price of a Blackbox for the standard edition which does all of this better.
It is a keeper. Love it every time :D
I mostly use it to record field recordings and mangle them together in some ambient way.
Also its fun to groove along with it and just jam.
Nice, what mic are you using please ?
Saw you at the synth expo in Hollywood last week. Good stuff! Love my Blackbox too! I actually had the Blackbox at the expo and plugged it in to a couple different peddles. Fun times.
BB is now how I assemble all of my tracks. Best investment I made in gear, in more than a few years, especially at the price! I quit using Ableton, and computers/tablet/phone for music, in general, in around 2014, after being an AL user since 2001. (Before that, Propheads Reason, and before that, pre-Sony Acid Pro.) Blackbox, to me, is a completely minimalized Ableton Live, with just 16 clips. I make more (And probably better) music, when I have less options. Moving away from using a DAW with every tool needed, built-in, just to bring all my gear together in finished tracks, to working solely with hardware, threw up a set of serious challenges, that BB actually removed. I couldn't be happier with mine! Really fast to get a good sounding track rolling, then fun to jam that track, real-time!
Can you describe your workflow? I'm curious. I get how you can record loops and patterns into it, but then how do you play with them?
@@user-dt9kk6sg8z I create a mixture of some recorded loops of whatever gear I have an idea for, as well as sample, slice, then sequence slices into a few variations of parts, pretty much how I've always used Ableton Live, apart from how I also used a few VST's in Live, and Acid. All of my VST'S these days, are not VST's. I also have a large library of samples I have either created /or collected over the last 30 or so years, which I also use for sequencing, and such.
That's awesome! the "minimized Ableton Live" is the vibe I get from it too! Hearing that it's at the center and you can just record takes onto is cool. You ever think about the Bluebox for things like that too?
Same goes for me. I haven't had to touch a computer in the last four years.
Great stuff. Yes.. have the RC 505 mk2 and it does it. Less tracks, but easy to use...
Weather or not I need the workflow, I always learn something about making grooving tunes. +1 for Deluge
I had a black box for a bit but never really got into it, I wasn’t a fan of the touch screen, but this makes me want to ‘dance with it’.
What is that green mic you're using? Love this jam!
That workflow reminds me of the Deeler program that Menomena made in MAX/MSP. They used it for songwriting, but originally it was used for live performance.
6:23 Getting Moodyman vibes from this one 🔥
Feels like something off forevernevermore
Cant say I like your music all that much but I like you, fren, and I like your channel.
Love it! That vibe had me moving, no joke!
I was just thinking about this device and was thinking how I hadn’t seen you post a vid on it in a minute.
Glad to see it. And I don’t own one!
Yet
What a cool microphone, what is the name of the product???
Ricky, as Johnny Cash once said to Terry Gross: "You are really good at what you do."
One tip: mount your overhead camera on rhe ceiling or a wall-to-wall pipe. Its bouncing a lot at times in this video. I'm guessing you have it boomed way out or clamped to the desk out of the cameras view?
That said, one thing you do well is to focus on the music (the gear only to the extent that it makes the music, not the GAS monetization) and keep it all low key. Good work! Keep it up!
Certainly have to dive deeper into the Blackbox. Thanks for the inspiring video!
Hey Ricky nice video. Whats that Microphone that you used in the vid?
Hey ricky
Always a relaxing pleasure to watch your videos
I love the blackbox
It s actualy my main inspiration instrument .realy great for ambiant using the slicer and randomized trigs
What are Torso’s new sampler? I read Surgeon says it’s his dream sampler
I know it’s not quite your jam, but I’d personally LOVE to see you try out a Norns. Some truly great loopers available there.
I love my BlackBox! ✊
what's your idle (no input) noise floor pal?
What microphone is that? The aqua color one with red cord
My brother I'm sure I've typed this to you before .. the best live looper/ sequencer/ sampler by far is the Deluge .."it's live looping functions are off the chart .. plus infinite bar length & unlimited tracks ..that sheeeet is crazy ...for live mangling I guess it's all about the OT ..and I like this video and have thought about the black box a few times ...maybe I will get the Euro rack version . Thank you .
Does the Deluge let you set a predefined loop length? I thought it only set after you do one loop? In here, Ricky is changing it up a lot
@@shifteleven yes it does ... or you can have it just follow the length of the previous loop . But there also a few more looping options .. far too many for me to type ..lol
@@siccavicca do you have a page reference in the manual? I would even take a quick description on how to set a predefined bar loop length. I don’t see it in the section I was reading on audio recording and a web search didn’t show much either
the deluge crowd wants to take us back to stone age. THAT design, UI and UX, and THAT screen... a dinosaur. mk2 please.
ps: it's miles ahead of the BB ofc. just not a way forward. time to retire mk1 finally
@@shifteleven very sorry for the late response..ok I don't have a page number in the manual to provide you with .. but how ever I find that by opening a blank clip and going onto it I can set the numbers of bars I want to record into on the fly ,..it seems to work most of the time for me ..I've not checked out the new community firmware I'm just using the standard version..
I wonder if they will bring a sucessor anytime soon, like bigger, more knobs. Still hesitate to buy one.
exactly my workflow :) have the blackbox powered by a bank and walk through the studio from gear to gear to layer up
Mic name?
I really enjoy your videos. It's like being right there, and I learn a ton. :D
Loopy Pro on iPad. It’s brilliant
Synthstrom Deluge is close, but may not do EXACTLY what you’re looking to do. Everything except the punch out as far as I know. It does have an undo button too which is very useful.
I kind of work with the same workflow on my two EHX2880 machines. I know it's the same for EHX45000, but I don't know if it's the same for EHX95000. As with the 1010 box, EHX2880 can midi sync, but limited to 4 mono or 2 stereo tracks, plus one mixdown (this is why I have two).
On the EHX2880 machines, there are no effects and no smart layering of loops, but they have the Punch-In functionality that I personally need.
With the EHX2880's Punch-In and Quantize functions engaged, I can keep recording on a loop, but it doesn't overdub in the traditional way, where you can hear the previous recorded loop. Instead, it just keeps recording over the previous loop until I'm happy with the take. So when I punch out on the device, or the foot controller (handy when you use both hands), I can punch out when the loop feels good, instead of stressing on getting the correct take in one go. This leaves more room for improvisation (for better and for worse) and also helps to fix loops with reverb trails, as I bake the effects into the loop a lot.
If the 1010 box had the same Punch In function as the EHX2880 machines (which it might), it would be a shut-up-and-take-my-money situation for me.
My workflow right now is looping on the EHX machines, and then recording them into OP1F when laying down the track. I can also at any time pull out the files from the EHX2880 straight into Ableton via CF card.
Great video, thanks for making, one question. What is that mic you used?
What an amazing machine!
Haven’t read all the comments but… I think if a sample is too long for the ram, then it’s read off the sd card - hence your disappearing chords.
Man as soon as you touch BlackBox, 10 minutes after you have a banger track ready 🎉.
the most inspirational modern gear for me.
Ricky please convince Aron of #1010music to put an advanced arpeggiator and a chord mode (so to play triads by just pushing the small squares when live) and the perfection is achieved.
Maschine can do this if you set mode to "loop" and target to "sound" or "pattern". Recording to "sound" would be best if your plan is to put a bunch of different sounds in a single group. That would be similar to what you're doing with the blackbox. If you wanted to have a group with a bunch of shaker patterns you can switch between and another group with just bass loops and another for chords (keep going; you have as many groups as you want); then recording to patterns would make sense. You don't have 16 recording slots; you have as many as you want.
You mentioned a long time ago that you used to use maschine but felt it always led you to creating the same song over and over. It might be worth a revisit.
Main cons of Maschine is that is huge 🙂🤷♂️ Blackbox is compact & light enough to throw into backpack.
Love it Bro, Such a great composition.