2008 honda accord with 325k miles the only think broke is the radio but starts up n goes like a dream still. i cant believe a new accord is 30k after ttl where i am for w base. that used to be top trim level money but nowadays its a base model
@@iati6294 Best vehicle is one that is paid for and the bank cannot come and get. . My 2010 Pathfinder is going on 15 years old , dealer serviced , my 1997 Ford Explorer I have had since 1999 going on 26 years. Maintenance is everything.
When we went to buy a truck for my son, he fell in love with a used GMC Sierra. We "negotiated" for an hour and I finally told my son that we were leaving. We got iin our vehicle and began driving away. In the rear view mirror, I saw the salesmen running out the front, watching us drive away. A day later, they called and sold us the truck for the price we wanted. Again, in 2013, my daughter in law found a subaru forester that she just had to have. Again, I convinced her to walk away. The dealership asked her to come back in so we did. This time, only a day later, she found a much better equipped forester with less miles and a lower price that she got for less than what the dealership was trying to sell her the day before. ALWAYS be ready to walk away.
Good point. Stealerships will always say “this deal wont last” or “ someones coming to check it out tomorrow” and try to get you to sign. But as you said, there will always be a better deal. The only problem is, is how much patience you have.
Our family has bought 3 Honda vehicles in the past 1.5 years. A 2022 CRV-EXL AWD, 2023 CRV-EXL AWD, 2024 Civic Hatchback. I have 2 daughters and a wife that these were for. We went with Honda for the price, and hopefully reliability. The fact that Honda is having a bunch or recalls is scary. The fact we want cars for reliable transportation and not a statement of status is changing for ALL MANUFACTURERS. At this point I can't say who is making a reliable vehicle in 2024.
I have owned more than a dozen Honda products over the years (a few Acura's included), and for the longest time you just did the required maintenance, changed the oil more often than they recommended (totally my choice), and NEVER had an issue with any of them, ever. This sure isn't true anymore. And when something goes wrong, it's not something cheap and inconsequential, it's the damn engine or transmission (or what they call a transmission now). Makes me wish I bought a few extra Accords ten years ago and put them in storage. I'm old enough now that when I bought my 2020 I was thinking this could be my last car (not that I think I'm dying, they just used to last forever). Now I'm not so sure, and I don't really want to be dealing with major problems once the powertrain warranty expires. So damn sad, you never could have convinced long ago this would be the way Honda would be today. I purposely avoided the BMW's and MB's that friends bought because I had no interest in impressing anyone (other than myself) and I wanted the bulletproof reliability. Things are supposed to get better, not worse.
Always be willing to walk away. Do not invest emotions in a vehicle purchase. There is always another vehicle at another dealership. But be realistic about what you can afford. Pay cash.
It boils down to greed. What we’re seeing is a tipping of scales- quality versus sale price. Manufacture greed has come to fruition. It will take years to reverse this perception. Serves em right
@@houstonraver834you don't understand CEO bonuses are meaningless. They made 4.2 million cars last year, so a 5 million bonus would add $1.20 to each car. Where does the rest of the 10,000-25,000 per car price bump go?
@@davidmann2988 It’s like the Pharmaceutical Industry, Listen, ALL medical research is done at Universities with Government Tax Payer Grants. The Pharmaceutical Companies ONLY manufacture and package and distribute medications. What I fail to understand is why the GOVERNMENT allows the Pharmaceutical Industry to price gouge Americans? The SAME medications are distributed and sold in foreign countries Why then aren’t pharmaceutical profits coming from foreign sales ? Americans have ALREADY contributed to the making of the meds. I hope trump changes that also. Americans should get FREE medications. We already paid for them.
My next-door neighbor works for an insurance claims department, and he handles auto warranty claims. Right now, the three biggest he is getting are Honda, Hyundai, and Kia. He talked about what is going on with the Engines and the seals that are all failing in the cars. He said on Hyundai and Kia, if you get one, do not get anything with a turbo. On Honda, the cars are listed, and it's all Seals throughout the engine that are failing. He said that Honda is so bad that they are sending new engines instead of fixing the issues with the seals due to so many cars.
Honda is not sending engines nor is the warranty/insurance company paying for an engine when all it needs is seals. You might have misinterpreted something there.
I recently purchased a 2025 CRV Hybrid Touring. I never thought I would ever buy a CRV but I really liked the current style. I gotta say I love it! It drives super smooth, quiet & efficient. Absolutely no regrets buying it!
I have a 2019 Acura RDX , we have it almost 6 years and it has never been in the shop for repairs , the battery hasn't even died , a great reliable car
Local Toyota dealership has a bunch of Camrys but they are $34K to $42K. I'm looking for one under $30K and it doesn't have to be a hybrid. I'll just keep my old Camrys.
@@anonymoususer5541 My dealer sends me an offer to order one every month and they call a few times a month. They're adding equipment on the vehicle which brings it up to $31.5K. They were adding stuff to get it up to $33.5K earlier this year (or it was market adjustment). I don't really like ordering and waiting. I like to walk around the lot and pick.
I look at it as a return to normal. I worked at a dealership in the early 2000s, We had a lot of inventory. It's getting back to the way it should be. A choice of colors and options
@@jtodd0221 I think we are good, 2017 Civic Ex-T. It seems to be mostly the new models that are affected. I still can't believe that Honda is falling of like this. Wow.
you just can’t win this car game , you want to save few bucks , you buy used , and then it needs repairs , or you go get yourself in debt to get a new car , thinking you won’t have any problems , and next thing you know , you have problems … what to do ? You can lease I guess , you’ll end up with high payments , but you don’t have to worry about fixing the car … I don’t know , it sucks
leases are not always high payments in todays market. I agree leasing is not the best deal, but as long as you make sure you get a reasonable mileage it's not too bad if you care about not having to pay for repairs.
@@Xander1Sheridanleases are often the way to go. You can pay $250 a month with zero due for a car line a civic for three years. That's $9000 every three years. Or $36k for 12 years. No maintenance, no stress
We had our 2nd son born last year and had to upgrade to a bigger car to haul family. Traded in our Accord for a 2024 Pilot LX and bought at MSRP $40000. Didn't need any options or other fancy stuff. (Heard they did away with the LX trim starting 2025 versions). But compared to other brands, in terms of cost and reliability, I think we were pretty lucky. So far no problems at all
I am seeing many more OLD cars on the road. This tells me people are driving old things they can fix because stuff is too computerized. People can't afford to fix stuff. Like you say, pay the payment OR fix it. Can't do both and now, can't even do ONE.
Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5.
Just bought a CX-30 really nice car. Reliable 2.5l 6speed non turbo no cvt. Cheaper maintenance and operation costs. Insurance seems to be lower than the others. Test drove a new Nissan. Didn't even feel like a new car. Honda builds a nice reliable and safe car. If you can afford the insurance and payments.
I have a 95 Honda Civic LX....runs great....I paid $3,250 out the door for it a decade ago...my backup is a 1989 Ford Aerostar Van (Eddie Bauer package) 15 years ago...which I paid 2K for..my wife drives a used 99 Prism...10k for her @10k on the car....all dealer buys....I was sad to sell my 69 dodge charger...but it went to a good home...
Since the 80's I was 100% all Honda and Acura. When Honda went to CVT and Turbo, I left the brand for Toyota Lexus. We bought a one owner 1999 Lexus RX300 in 2008 with 125k and my wife drove it for the last sixteen years and it now has 403k. I am ocd on maintenance and did it myself. when we went to replace it, a brand I never gave a second look kept rising to the top with a traditional automatic transmission and a naturally aspirated engine and tha was the Mazda CX-5. Having owned it for five months now I am thoroughly impressed and now a huge Mazda fan.
I think Prices are the #1 reason they are selling around 16 Million cars and light trucks these days versus around 18 million a decade ago. They've priced people out of around 2 million new vehicles a year.
I had a Honda Insight that blew an engine. Honda claimed it wasnt a design flaw when at 80K miles it started using a quart of oil every 1000 miles. I had to replace the engine eventually at cost to me. About 6 months later I got a letter stating that they acknowledged an engine problem and would reimburse for replacements. However, I couldnt get the place where I got the engine from to issue a duplicate receipt so I never could get reimbursed. As you can imagine, Honda is no longer on my list of brands I would buy again since they wouldnt admit a design flaw and cost me a few thousand dollars.
What's sad is the 1988 honda civic hf could easily get 51 mpg 36 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I love honda and own a 2023 HRV but after 36 years the best they can do is 50 mpg
In 2017, we paid $21K without negotiation for a brand new, moderately equipped, 4WD (not AWD), compact SUV. Aside from an issue with mice, it's been flawless. I'm flabbergasted with modern prices and reliability.
@@davidanderson8469 Ford Escape SE. It has a center locker, making it 4WD. When I first saw the "4WD" on the back, I thought BS. I researched and was pleasantly surprised.
For the past 22 years I have been a Honda customer until 2 years ago when I lost my Civic hatchback in a car accident. The inventory in dealers were the worst because of covid. They had used Ridgelines sale them for the mid $30,000.. I ended up buying Nissan (Rogue Sport) that was on my budget
Even when Toyota unveiled the new Tundra with new motor, every knowledgeable car person knew it was garbage. They threw reliability out the window to meet stringent emissions regulations. No surprise here that the engines are blowing now..
Part of engineering is quality control. Every new engine/generation has its minor issues, we all know that, but I never expected Toyota to build such a POS engine
@@disco.lemonadeThey are just a car manufacturer like all the rest. It’s silly that some people remain adamant that Toyota and Honda vehicles are blessed by a magic wand.
@@Ricky-mo6mv Perfect? Nah. Better than the rest? Sure. They are and have been for decades, even among other Japanese. Just a few Toyota and Honda turn out lemons, rest are bulletproof, whereas just a few models of the rest have great quality. It's a fact, you know it.
I'll always have a place in my heart for Honda. I was an avid motorcycle rider for about 60 years. My first 4 new Motorcycles were Honda's and I put about 200k miles on them collectively! I only changed to BMW because the Honda models got too big, like the Gold Wing, vs the BMW R100/RS and RT. I also liked the more traditional flat (boxer) twin. In 1979, I bought a 1978 'grey market' Belgum Police model R100/RS. I rode that for 20 years, and put 300,000 miles on it!! Very happy times. 8) --gary
I have owned multiple Hondas and Acura’s over the years. After our last MDX we got tired of paying for gasoline and switched over to a Tesla Model 3 Performance. We liked the Tesla so much that we picked up a Model Y Performance as well. We save money on gas and maintenance and have no regrets. We still kept two ICE vehicles a BMW M3 and a Toyota 4Runner. The ICE vehicles do not get driven much And mostly sit in the garage.
Sticker prices are misleading because when you get the final price with or without discounts you need to add the doc fee and insurance and taxes. A 35 grand vehicle can easily jump to 40 grand. People can''t afford these vehicles, even the lowest price cars and suv's.
Salesperson at a Honda store here. Interesting to see what the headlines say, I guess it’s different depending on where you live, but Honda has been updated our inventory lists that a lot of cars that are still at the factory not having been shipped out yet, our actually here on the ground, as of a couple weeks ago. Beforehand we can see everyone’s inventory on the ground or in transit, but now we have to call to have other Honda’s verify the car is actually on the ground before we can do a trade or anything. Weird but my new car list is full of “Here” or “Not Here”, and that’s effecting the Day Supply.
There are more vehicles being looked into that might have this issue: The following vehicles are covered under the investigation: 2016-2020 Acura MDX 2018-2020 Acura TLX 2016-2020 Honda Pilot 2017-2019 Honda Ridgeline 2018-2020 Honda Odyssey From the USAtoday article
@@gabrielleelisha4719 Look at a Mazda CX-5 or CX-50 over the CRV, Better priced and better motor and transmission over the CRV and offer a bit more options with a more up scaled luxury interior. Mazda also gets better Fuel Economy over the CR-V
@@gabrielleelisha47191.5t is a very small engine. They put a turbo to make it more powerful. This makes it more high strung hence a few of them are blowing head gaskets. So you have to be careful with oil changes and fuel quality with these.
I switched from Honda to Mazda around 3 years ago for daily car and I am very happy. These days Hondas are also very overpriced for features they offer. Will never get to CVT again.
@@jimmyjay689 Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5. Would suggest to get
@@jimmyjay689 Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5.
Mazda doesn't have a luxury brand, so they can (have to) offer a little more. The a/t is a nice touch, but I hate how bad they are with interior space and their tiny, non-touch iPad on the dash. I just can believe of all things, they get that wrong every time
Same here switched from a 2021 Civic sport to a 2024 CX-30 my civic was $23K brand new out the door back then and the 2024 Mazda CX-30 sport was 25K out the door in today's market for an awd small SUV that's a steal when you look at the prices of civics today and the prices of any HRV comparable to the CX-30. The CX-30 is a steal and I also got the leather interior and it beats the fuel economy of the HR-V, and gets the same gas milage as my civic with so much more room and the awd is a huge plus in the winter. I'm also glad to get away from the CVT Transmissions
Not a bad price on that CRV. We bought a new CRV in 2010. It was the same as you showed, but with leather interior. So an EX-L AWD model. It was about $27K+ back in 2010. An EX model AWD had an MSRP of $25K back in 2010. That is an increase of about $9K over 15 years. That is about a 2% per year increase in price. Not bad at all. Basically kept with normal inflation, and would have been much higher if it had gone up the amount of inflation we saw over the last couple of years.
One of our kids inherited my 2011 Honda Civic with just 120k miles and in excellent conditions, to go to college. A very reliable vehicle. Two years ago we sold our Toyota Highlander with 400k miles and it was in good condition. We went shopping to at least 5 different Toyota dealers, and as you stated, WALKED AWAY. They all wanted $39K or more for just a basic model RAV. We ended up with a CRV EX for $32K out the door price.
I had the valve train rebuilt at 20k miles because of knocking on my 22 ridgeline and then I went and traded it in as fast as I could knowing that its going to spit a rod any day.
Paid 47k for the 2022 hybrid crv ex during the "Chip/covid shortage" where it was no negotiations, take or leave it. Had to put our name on a list and wait 3 weeks... choose between 2 colors. So this looks amazing to me.
I walked into a Honda dealer the other day and they have alot of 2024 Accord hybrids that are a no sale because of fuel pump recall. The sales guy said those cars prob won’t be available for sale until March. Made me change my mind about a Honda. Especially when the dealer tried to offer me way below trade in value.
4 Months ago I got a brand new 2023 Honda Passport TrailSport manufacturated 09/23 with only 50 miles on it for $36.500 out the door, was the last 2023 they have it for sale in the lot that day. Car has been very nice we like it a lot.
Great channel! As for the roughly 13:40 mark - if you want a $21-22k Civic, hop over to the Kia dealer instead. They have reasonably-equipped Fortes (and now they're getting the K4, the Forte's replacement) for under $23k MSRP. It's not as good as the Civic, but it's thousands less and has a big trunk and roomy enough back seat. In 2022 I bought a Forte GT with the technology package and it was STILL under $27k. And really, really loaded. My company has a Kia delivery car and it's still humming along at 105,000 miles.
Are you comfortable with the engine lasting? I recently bought a Corolla and didn’t consider the Koreans due to their reliability reputation. The Forte definitely looks like a nice little car but I was coming from a Volkswagen so I wanted something that wouldn’t cause me headaches. I do love my Corolla though, but again… the Forte (K3 now?) looks good.
The Forte's 1.6 l isn't one of the problem engines for Hyundai/Kia, so I'm not too worried. But as an engine, I'm not a fan of these modern little overstressed DI turbos, because it does have somewhat old school lag.@@michaelw6277
@@michaelw6277 The GT has the 1.6L turbo, which hasn't been one of the troublesome Hyundai/Kia engines. I think I'd still avoid anything with a 2.0L or 2.4L. Funny thing, Kia recently jumped way up to number 8 on JD Powers' 2024 top reliable brand list.
Screw the new cars I’ve bought used/preowns & still drive them all right now 2016 Acura RLX; 2014 TSX Sedan; 2012 TSX Wagon; 2011 TSX Sedan; 2012 Honda Odessey Cheaper insurance & maintenance
Listen to ur logic...the same shit applies to brand new cars...only u enjoy 3, 4 yrs of no worries and a brand new car...also did u say less maintenance on an older car? Lol..no sir
I purchased a CR-V EX-L (higher trim) with radiant red (higher cost color) for $35,683 this summer. They deleted all add-ons. I paid it off. No payments! The Touring is top of the line. The light gray might make it look bigger. The probe is on the V6 engine. That blue looks better in person than on my iPad.
Going thru this now with a damn 2024 Honda. Finding that what used to be a great dealer. They are now finding a way to exclude warranty items to charge the diagnostic fee. Very frustrating 😡
I know there’s a lot of people that are trashing Honda’s here. I have owned 5 Honda’s. I have a new 2024 Honda Civic Touring and it’s fantastic. Perfect? No…Too expensive…Yes. It’s smooth, peppy, and handles great! Grand slam for Honda.
It is very easy and comfortable to relate to what you are saying. As a marketing professional, I also believe in telling it like it is and find that the people that I work with value that. Thank you for some great advice!
I work for small Honda store in N.C. For a couple of months or so, we have at least 30 vehicles on stop sale. I would imagine that may contribute to the increased day’s supply. CIAO!!!
@@jimmyjay689 Only because people "think" the vehicle is an asset and not a liability. People buy based on the payment not the actual total cost of the vehicle. Commercialism at its best..
What do you expect to happen when the money supply in your country increases at the rate it did after covid? Funny people have such short memories, as if that stimmy money wouldnt come back to bite 😂
This company is still making $1,100 cars 5 days a week complete Matt Greensburg Honda plant in Indiana. And working every other Saturday till the end of the year.
I am in the market also for a new car but as many of us have said, I will keep what I have! Have a 2017 CRV 117,000 miles. It runs like the day I bought it. 0 issues so far. A new one at 35,000….no thanks. But check out Mitsubishi. Right now a loaded 36,000 dollar outlander is selling for 30,000 with 0.9 financing. Car is made in Japan and has 100,000 mile power train and 60,000 mile bumper to bumper! This could be worth a look!
Yeah I did my research. You are correct. The early models before the recent gen (2022) did have its share of problems but recent ratings have been very good. Not to mention 100,000 mile warranty. There is a dealership in Maryland that is doubling that warranty!!!! I sat in one the other day…..gotta say it was very upscale…the discounts were pretty insane up to 5 and 6 thousand off MSRP. I will be ready to buy in 2025 and will definitely keep this one on my short list especially if they keep up with the discounts. My Honda snd Toyota dealerships are not even close to that discount. Time will tell.
@@allanpontiere6177 I wasn't specifically saying these new ones are bad I think they have a Nissan Rogue chassis if I'm not mistaken. Mitsubishi's always had soft engines that would burn oil prematurely I remember those 3000Gt and diamante's V6 wouldn't last all that long
yep correct again. They are based on the Rogue. I will do more research before I buy which at this point I am in no hurry. Prices are still crazy high but the outlander is on my radar. As mentioned the SE and the SEL are very upscale and premium on interior. Thanks for the feedback. Maybe Brandon can do a video on Mitsubishi to see how they are doing in this ridiculous car market!
I have a 23 hrv exl, ive had it for 2 years, no problems at all. It has a K20 2.0 engine NA, no turbo 1.5 liter engine, port injections, no gdi, no stop and go. The only thing would be the cvt transmission. So far its been great.
I’m driving a 2000 Honda accord 218,000 miles and a 2014 Honda Ridgeline 164,000 miles paid for and both running great I won’t ever buy a new car again! Mine are very reliable and parts are a lot cheaper than payments !
My first car was a 1987 honda civic wagon i got for $300. Lasted a couple years too. If you dont mind wrenching im a big advocate for buying used cars and saving money. The new market is crazy expensive and the modern cars are built like crap compared to 20-30 years ago. I currently drive a 2000 crown Victoria with 100k miles i got for cheap. Has ac and all the features i expect
In Canada, they want $50,000 plus for a Honda Accord out the door. Very few people in my country have that kind of money to spend on a new car. If car companies don't start making more affordable cars, they will all go bankrupt.
As a used car dealer, running a buy here/pay here, why wouldn't you make a connection to several used car managers, and offer them buy bids on their lower dollar trade ins, instead of wasting your money at an auction?
Bought a 2024 4Runner Limited 4X4 new in July. It was the last year of the 5th generation. V6 and loving it. Wouldn’t have bought a 2025 when 6th gen comes out with turbo crap. Also got mine $3000 under msrp, no add-ons and paid cash. Dealer made little money off me
I have a 2019 Odyssey I bought new and I’m hoping that if my engine had this issue it’d have exploded by now. Oil changed every 5k and the oil always comes out clean with no sparkle. *knocks on wood*
My sister works at Dollar Tree and makes $15 per hr and her sister works at a Buffet making $32,000 per year .. both want to buy a new car but can't afford them. At this pace they will never be able to afford a new car .....When I was 18 I bought my first car a new Honda and paid $6,000 (plain Jane Civic with manual and no A/C) and was making $8 per hr at 18-19 years old at a job after High School. My sister's SUV is 21 yrs old with super high miles.
As a CR-V Hybrid Touring owner for the past 1.5 years, let me clear up a few points. 1) Not a single issue has happened. 2) There's nothing "small" (as in small SUV) about the CR-V these days. It's rather big. 3) The prices are very good and well worth every penny. That's why it's one of the top-selling vehicles in the world. 4) The quality and materials are excellent. 5) I routinely get 600 miles per full fill-up. 6) Its driving characteristics are the best in its class. 7) It's worth every penny and more.
Bought my 2017 CR-V brand new, have since paid it off, and had numerous issues in the first 3 years of ownership. Fortunately, most of those issues were addressed during the warranty period. However, many other CR-V owners across the country experienced catastrophic engine failure due to oil dilution (or whatever). So far, I’ve got under 70k miles on mine and the only issue I’m having (still having) is with the touchscreen on the dashboard going schizo every so often. Honda already replaced it once, and the new touchscreen is having the same issues as the old one. Won’t go back to Honda ever again. My first 3 years with this vehicle were a headache. My next vehicle will likely be a Toyota.
We are looking for a slightly used vehicle because it is going to take more money to fix our 10-year-old Rogue than it is worth. It is really hard to figure out what vehicle to go with. New is way out of budget unfortunately. We would love to get into a Pathfinder but we have been hearing that they have a ton of issues. My sister has a 2015 Honda Pilot and loves it has had little work done on it. We found a 2022 Honda Pilot Special, but with that year being so close to what is being recalled and knowing they reconfigured the 2023 I am a bit reluctant. We also tried out a 2023 Kia Telluride which I found very comfortable, but they are not known for reliability. It is a very hard time to be in need of updating your vehicle. Do you think the 2022 Honda Pilot would be a safe bet?
-Dude, Honda has experienced steering issues with their Civics, HRVs and Accords. The older 3.5L engine from 2017 to 2019 has crankshaft issues. TOyota has engine and transmission issues in their new Tundras and Tacomas respectively. The Fords and GM vehicles have recall issues as well. Nissans are not selling either. I don't think that the prices are coming down anywhere for awhile if not at all. Dealers will have to reduce their final offers to move new cars, or you will see many dealerships going broke.
So what is the Engine Failure Notice? The 1.5L Turbo in CRVs? The Hybrids? The news flash included a recall on Acuras too? Which ones? The only maker that increasing sales is Mazda! At the expense of Honda, Toyota, Ford, etc.
Dealers were short on vehicles because of the supply chains. It's not going to recover the same for each dealership. They knew that they had to sell to get more. Now, many are getting more to sell. Yes many older cars are still around. Many are buying luxury cars with bumps and bruises. The market is mixed. No need to panic.
Randy Keuhl Honda in Cedar Rapids, Iowa sells cars at a fast rate bc they are upfront and workable and also have great customer service. They know what the best sell price is and will work with you. Also Chevy Equinox AWD is the best vehicle to trade in with Randy Keuhl
had a 1986 prelude SI, the rear view mirror mount broke after a month, and they wouldn't replace it. said it wasn't under the warranty, they Lost a life long customer over a little ball clamp on a rear view mirror. wow.
Was just there after my car was totaled. Was going for a base civic sport. They barely discounted the car. It came to around 30 grand. I walked out of the finance office at the signing after thinking about 30 grand for a civic that only gets 35mpg when I can get a 2025 Camry that has twice the power twice the room better reputation and gets 50mpg. Like get it together Honda.
I'm looking at a brand new nissan 2023 rouge . Any issues with them. I was ready to buy a gmc terrian but its so uncomfortable and noticed it doesn't hold its value
My older Hondas were bullet proof. My 1st gen 98 CRV was incredible. My 88 Accord was the same. I left Honda in 2010 for Toyota and Subaru. I may return to Honda but only after the engine issues are fixed and the prices come down.
Brandon, that's what my Honda Civic Hatchback Sport Touring listed for MSRP $33,000 but I added the factory spoiler for $650 dealer installed. The SP stands for Sport not Special, my car is Platinum White Pearl, you couldn't give me that awful looking loud color Boost Blue Pearl on that Civic you showed, that's why it's still sitting on the lot. The 2025 has a new front fascia & it lost it's fog lights, why I ordered my 2024 back early March, didn't want a 2025 or a Hybrid version!
I just sent my manual 2005 civic with 300k miles to junkyard today. I paid $2300 used around 2015. New cars have much higher insurance. Save me a lot in insurance throughout the years.
I have a 2013 Honda Accord with 304K miles…it still runs as good as when I bought it in 2015 with 15K miles. Smile!
Don’t buy a new one you wil not get that service from a new Honda w the 1.5/2.0 turbo engine .
2008 honda accord with 325k miles the only think broke is the radio but starts up n goes like a dream still. i cant believe a new accord is 30k after ttl where i am for w base. that used to be top trim level money but nowadays its a base model
Does that have a CVT trans??
@@Mrcrustie45 On the original trans?? no way
@ I heard the turbos are not as good. Bummer! Thanks!
$0 car payment. They can keep their $40k cars.
I haven’t had a car payment in over 6 years. Life is good
@@iati6294 Best vehicle is one that is paid for and the bank cannot come and get. . My 2010 Pathfinder is going on 15 years old , dealer serviced , my 1997 Ford Explorer I have had since 1999 going on 26 years. Maintenance is everything.
Exacly, the worst thing a person could ever buy is anything with wheels. Unless it's a classic, it's not an "investment" 😂
@@noelleonard2498no but it is transportation.
@@noelleonard2498it is if it’s a truck and you use it to make money with your landscaping business 🧐
When we went to buy a truck for my son, he fell in love with a used GMC Sierra. We "negotiated" for an hour and I finally told my son that we were leaving. We got iin our vehicle and began driving away. In the rear view mirror, I saw the salesmen running out the front, watching us drive away. A day later, they called and sold us the truck for the price we wanted. Again, in 2013, my daughter in law found a subaru forester that she just had to have. Again, I convinced her to walk away. The dealership asked her to come back in so we did. This time, only a day later, she found a much better equipped forester with less miles and a lower price that she got for less than what the dealership was trying to sell her the day before. ALWAYS be ready to walk away.
Exactly. We are in control. Leave emotions at home
Good point. Stealerships will always say “this deal wont last” or “ someones coming to check it out tomorrow” and try to get you to sign. But as you said, there will always be a better deal. The only problem is, is how much patience you have.
Nice to know. Thanks for the advice.
Best to never shop for a car when you NEED one. Better if you WANT one. This gives you the freedom to walk.
Our family has bought 3 Honda vehicles in the past 1.5 years. A 2022 CRV-EXL AWD, 2023 CRV-EXL AWD, 2024 Civic Hatchback. I have 2 daughters and a wife that these were for. We went with Honda for the price, and hopefully reliability.
The fact that Honda is having a bunch or recalls is scary. The fact we want cars for reliable transportation and not a statement of status is changing for ALL MANUFACTURERS.
At this point I can't say who is making a reliable vehicle in 2024.
Totally agree. We are looking for a reliable new car to buy. We were serious considering Honda but are changing our minds.
I have owned more than a dozen Honda products over the years (a few Acura's included), and for the longest time you just did the required maintenance, changed the oil more often than they recommended (totally my choice), and NEVER had an issue with any of them, ever. This sure isn't true anymore. And when something goes wrong, it's not something cheap and inconsequential, it's the damn engine or transmission (or what they call a transmission now). Makes me wish I bought a few extra Accords ten years ago and put them in storage. I'm old enough now that when I bought my 2020 I was thinking this could be my last car (not that I think I'm dying, they just used to last forever). Now I'm not so sure, and I don't really want to be dealing with major problems once the powertrain warranty expires. So damn sad, you never could have convinced long ago this would be the way Honda would be today. I purposely avoided the BMW's and MB's that friends bought because I had no interest in impressing anyone (other than myself) and I wanted the bulletproof reliability. Things are supposed to get better, not worse.
@@bradtradesit seems Honda and Toyota are just like BMW and MB these days , not reliable, and cost an arm and a leg to repair …
The answer for which manufacturers are building reliable products is….None of them
Honda has not been a reliable brand for a while. They stopped caring over a decade ago. Mazda is good right now.
Always be willing to walk away. Do not invest emotions in a vehicle purchase. There is always another vehicle at another dealership. But be realistic about what you can afford. Pay cash.
I need a BMW 7 series with special order red leather. There are only 10-15 for sale now in the entire US.
@@rachelgreen1368you want it, you don't need it.
@@rachelgreen1368 You don't "need" it, you want a BMW 7 series. If you can afford it, get it, do you big dawg.
I drive a 2005 Honda Element, 220K miles, still runs like new. Nothing and I mean NOTHING beats a $0 car payment.
My Honda dealership in Kelowna had 75 cars last year. I checked online the other day , they had almost 300.
Wow, are they gonna go on a massive sale?
It boils down to greed. What we’re seeing is a tipping of scales- quality versus sale price. Manufacture greed has come to fruition. It will take years to reverse this perception. Serves em right
You don't understand the ceo needs his 5 million dollar bouns
@@houstonraver834you don't understand CEO bonuses are meaningless. They made 4.2 million cars last year, so a 5 million bonus would add $1.20 to each car. Where does the rest of the 10,000-25,000 per car price bump go?
No it's consumer stupidity don't just point fingers
@@davidmann2988 It’s like the Pharmaceutical Industry, Listen, ALL medical research is done at Universities with Government Tax Payer Grants. The Pharmaceutical Companies ONLY manufacture and package and distribute medications.
What I fail to understand is why the GOVERNMENT allows the Pharmaceutical Industry to price gouge Americans? The SAME medications are distributed and sold in foreign countries Why then aren’t pharmaceutical profits coming from foreign sales ? Americans have ALREADY contributed to the making of the meds. I hope trump changes that also. Americans should get FREE medications. We already paid for them.
My next-door neighbor works for an insurance claims department, and he handles auto warranty claims. Right now, the three biggest he is getting are Honda, Hyundai, and Kia. He talked about what is going on with the Engines and the seals that are all failing in the cars. He said on Hyundai and Kia, if you get one, do not get anything with a turbo. On Honda, the cars are listed, and it's all Seals throughout the engine that are failing. He said that Honda is so bad that they are sending new engines instead of fixing the issues with the seals due to so many cars.
Honda is not sending engines nor is the warranty/insurance company paying for an engine when all it needs is seals. You might have misinterpreted something there.
Insurance companies deal with "Warranty claims?"
Did they suddenly source their seals from China instead of Japan??
@@jev2867he has 2 jobs..
Seals through out the engine... That's alot of seals, meaning a lot of labor in tear down and replace, engine is much more cost effective..
New cars are still much too expensive. Guess I'll have to keep my old car until the wheels fall off.
When the wheels fall off, fix it and keep on driving!
Same here 5/11/13 civics, don't plan on getting rid of them anytime soon.
I bought a new Suburban 2WD in ‘96. The MSRP was $32,000. I still have it as a spare. 188,000 miles.
If you know what you're doing you can still get deals and get a new car......
Buy used Lexus..alot below 30k with low millage, there are still like new !!
I recently purchased a 2025 CRV Hybrid Touring.
I never thought I would ever buy a CRV but I really liked the current style.
I gotta say I love it!
It drives super smooth, quiet & efficient.
Absolutely no regrets buying it!
Just make sure you slow down to 20MPH before taking any gentle curve. SUVs are a joke.
Love that CVT transmission 😂
@ It’s not a CVT dumbass!
I have a 2019 Acura RDX , we have it almost 6 years and it has never been in the shop for repairs , the battery hasn't even died , a great reliable car
Hubble want to trade in my CRV for the MDX. Wondering if there is enough of a difference to justify the price
Local Toyota dealership has a bunch of Camrys but they are $34K to $42K. I'm looking for one under $30K and it doesn't have to be a hybrid. I'll just keep my old Camrys.
All 2025 Camrys are hybrid only. You can order a 2025 Camry LE for under 30K.
@@anonymoususer5541 Is that MSRP or all taxes and fees included?
Keeping my 2011 Camry with 220k miles on it. Still drives great and have no ambition to even think of getting a car right now or anytime close.
@@anonymoususer5541 My dealer sends me an offer to order one every month and they call a few times a month. They're adding equipment on the vehicle which brings it up to $31.5K. They were adding stuff to get it up to $33.5K earlier this year (or it was market adjustment). I don't really like ordering and waiting. I like to walk around the lot and pick.
Same here😂 I have 3 V8 in my driveway I need a V6 for around $30,000
I look at it as a return to normal. I worked at a dealership in the early 2000s, We had a lot of inventory. It's getting back to the way it should be. A choice of colors and options
I'm sitting in my Honda watching this video
Heeey me too lol. 2017 Civic Si.
Good luck!
I am still waiting for a part for a safety recall. The recall was issued back in February.
@@jtodd0221 I think we are good, 2017 Civic Ex-T. It seems to be mostly the new models that are affected. I still can't believe that Honda is falling of like this. Wow.
Quit. Might blow up
Glad you picked Honda in this visit. In the market for a used 2023 CRV, and it gave me an idea what new 24-25s are MSRPing. Too rich for my blood.
no one should buy a new car unless you want some limited or rare model. There are always used car bargains, you just have to look for them.
you just can’t win this car game , you want to save few bucks , you buy used , and then it needs repairs , or you go get yourself in debt to get a new car , thinking you won’t have any problems , and next thing you know , you have problems … what to do ? You can lease I guess , you’ll end up with high payments , but you don’t have to worry about fixing the car … I don’t know , it sucks
leases are not always high payments in todays market. I agree leasing is not the best deal, but as long as you make sure you get a reasonable mileage it's not too bad if you care about not having to pay for repairs.
@@Xander1Sheridanleases are often the way to go. You can pay $250 a month with zero due for a car line a civic for three years. That's $9000 every three years. Or $36k for 12 years. No maintenance, no stress
New cars have warranties and usually defect repairs would be no cost so what's the problem??
We had our 2nd son born last year and had to upgrade to a bigger car to haul family. Traded in our Accord for a 2024 Pilot LX and bought at MSRP $40000. Didn't need any options or other fancy stuff. (Heard they did away with the LX trim starting 2025 versions). But compared to other brands, in terms of cost and reliability, I think we were pretty lucky. So far no problems at all
I am seeing many more OLD cars on the road. This tells me people are driving old things they can fix because stuff is too computerized. People can't afford to fix stuff. Like you say, pay the payment OR fix it. Can't do both and now, can't even do ONE.
Seems like a good time to look at Mazda's. You should do a walk around at some Mazda dealers to see.
Or Subaru.
Im looking at both...i like the CX-30, 50 and the Suburu Crosstrek
I have a 2018 CX5 and I love that thing
Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5.
Just bought a CX-30 really nice car. Reliable 2.5l 6speed non turbo no cvt. Cheaper maintenance and operation costs. Insurance seems to be lower than the others. Test drove a new Nissan. Didn't even feel like a new car. Honda builds a nice reliable and safe car. If you can afford the insurance and payments.
I have a 95 Honda Civic LX....runs great....I paid $3,250 out the door for it a decade ago...my backup is a 1989 Ford Aerostar Van (Eddie Bauer package) 15 years ago...which I paid 2K for..my wife drives a used 99 Prism...10k for her @10k on the car....all dealer buys....I was sad to sell my 69 dodge charger...but it went to a good home...
Since the 80's I was 100% all Honda and Acura. When Honda went to CVT and Turbo, I left the brand for Toyota Lexus. We bought a one owner 1999 Lexus RX300 in 2008 with 125k and my wife drove it for the last sixteen years and it now has 403k. I am ocd on maintenance and did it myself. when we went to replace it, a brand I never gave a second look kept rising to the top with a traditional automatic transmission and a naturally aspirated engine and tha was the Mazda CX-5. Having owned it for five months now I am thoroughly impressed and now a huge Mazda fan.
mazda is awesome.
I think Prices are the #1 reason they are selling around 16 Million cars and light trucks these days versus around 18 million a decade ago. They've priced people out of around 2 million new vehicles a year.
I had a Honda Insight that blew an engine. Honda claimed it wasnt a design flaw when at 80K miles it started using a quart of oil every 1000 miles. I had to replace the engine eventually at cost to me. About 6 months later I got a letter stating that they acknowledged an engine problem and would reimburse for replacements. However, I couldnt get the place where I got the engine from to issue a duplicate receipt so I never could get reimbursed. As you can imagine, Honda is no longer on my list of brands I would buy again since they wouldnt admit a design flaw and cost me a few thousand dollars.
Still driving my $600 car I bought in 2018.
I love Honda vehicles! I have a 24 Accord hybrid and my wife has a 25 Civic hybrid Touring. Love them! Civic actually gets 50 miles a gallon.
What's sad is the 1988 honda civic hf could easily get 51 mpg 36 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I love honda and own a 2023 HRV but after 36 years the best they can do is 50 mpg
In 2017, we paid $21K without negotiation for a brand new, moderately equipped, 4WD (not AWD), compact SUV. Aside from an issue with mice, it's been flawless. I'm flabbergasted with modern prices and reliability.
What SUV would that be?
@@davidanderson8469 Ford Escape SE. It has a center locker, making it 4WD.
When I first saw the "4WD" on the back, I thought BS. I researched and was pleasantly surprised.
Until it blows up. Which it will. Ecoboom.
For the past 22 years I have been a Honda customer until 2 years ago when I lost my Civic hatchback in a car accident. The inventory in dealers were the worst because of covid. They had used Ridgelines sale them for the mid $30,000..
I ended up buying Nissan (Rogue Sport) that was on my budget
I don't recommend Nissan rogues after 50k miles they are money pit with lots of problems.
@@Jptdo3 👍🏽
@@Jptdo3 my rogue has 210K miles and after 180K i won't reccomend
Even when Toyota unveiled the new Tundra with new motor, every knowledgeable car person knew it was garbage. They threw reliability out the window to meet stringent emissions regulations. No surprise here that the engines are blowing now..
Part of engineering is quality control. Every new engine/generation has its minor issues, we all know that, but I never expected Toyota to build such a POS engine
@@disco.lemonadeThey are just a car manufacturer like all the rest. It’s silly that some people remain adamant that Toyota and Honda vehicles are blessed by a magic wand.
@@Ricky-mo6mv Perfect? Nah. Better than the rest? Sure. They are and have been for decades, even among other Japanese. Just a few Toyota and Honda turn out lemons, rest are bulletproof, whereas just a few models of the rest have great quality. It's a fact, you know it.
@@disco.lemonade That could be considered true a decade ago. The more current customer experiences paint a much different picture.
I'll always have a place in my heart for Honda. I was an avid motorcycle rider for about 60 years. My first 4 new Motorcycles were Honda's and I put about 200k miles on them collectively! I only changed to BMW because the Honda models got too big, like the Gold Wing, vs the BMW R100/RS and RT. I also liked the more traditional flat (boxer) twin. In 1979, I bought a 1978 'grey market' Belgum Police model R100/RS. I rode that for 20 years, and put 300,000 miles on it!! Very happy times. 8) --gary
I have owned multiple Hondas and Acura’s over the years. After our last MDX we got tired of paying for gasoline and switched over to a Tesla Model 3 Performance. We liked the Tesla so much that we picked up a Model Y Performance as well. We save money on gas and maintenance and have no regrets. We still kept two ICE vehicles a BMW M3 and a Toyota 4Runner. The ICE vehicles do not get driven much And mostly sit in the garage.
Sticker prices are misleading because when you get the final price with or without discounts you need to add the doc fee and insurance and taxes. A 35 grand vehicle can easily jump to 40 grand. People can''t afford these vehicles, even the lowest price cars and suv's.
Salesperson at a Honda store here. Interesting to see what the headlines say, I guess it’s different depending on where you live, but Honda has been updated our inventory lists that a lot of cars that are still at the factory not having been shipped out yet, our actually here on the ground, as of a couple weeks ago. Beforehand we can see everyone’s inventory on the ground or in transit, but now we have to call to have other Honda’s verify the car is actually on the ground before we can do a trade or anything. Weird but my new car list is full of “Here” or “Not Here”, and that’s effecting the Day Supply.
There are more vehicles being looked into that might have this issue:
The following vehicles are covered under the investigation:
2016-2020 Acura MDX
2018-2020 Acura TLX
2016-2020 Honda Pilot
2017-2019 Honda Ridgeline
2018-2020 Honda Odyssey
From the USAtoday article
The 1.5T motor is the biggest reason most people don't want a Honda right now. Also, a $35k CRV with that engine is criminal.
Can you explain this to a non-car person? I’ve been looking into the 2025 CRV.
@@gabrielleelisha4719 Look at a Mazda CX-5 or CX-50 over the CRV, Better priced and better motor and transmission over the CRV and offer a bit more options with a more up scaled luxury interior. Mazda also gets better Fuel Economy over the CR-V
@@gabrielleelisha47191.5t is a very small engine. They put a turbo to make it more powerful. This makes it more high strung hence a few of them are blowing head gaskets. So you have to be careful with oil changes and fuel quality with these.
I switched from Honda to Mazda around 3 years ago for daily car and I am very happy. These days Hondas are also very overpriced for features they offer. Will never get to CVT again.
I owned a Accord for 8 yrs..
I also owned a CRV for 7 yrs...
Im ready to switch to Mazda...want something diffrent.
@@jimmyjay689 Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5. Would suggest to get
@@jimmyjay689 Just do not get Cx5 (Any trim) I had Cx5 2023 and traded in with BMW X3 2024, the only reason is that it is still using old infotainment system that goes back to 2017 I guess , I noticed this comparing to my CX30. for example you can NOT forward music tracks with volume knob , you will not see tire pressures which you can do in CX30, When vipers are in Automatic there is no light indicator that it is in Automatic which is annoying at nights, There is no Automatic high beam button , All these are fixed new series. in terms of cabin quality in some areas it beats BMW , I like quality and feeling of volume knob in my Cx30 much more than X3. Mazda really offer premium vehicle, on my Cx30 2022 we have 53K and there was no single issue. it drives like new and I can say very sporty. Transmission tuning on cx30 is way better than CX5.
Mazda doesn't have a luxury brand, so they can (have to) offer a little more. The a/t is a nice touch, but I hate how bad they are with interior space and their tiny, non-touch iPad on the dash. I just can believe of all things, they get that wrong every time
Same here switched from a 2021 Civic sport to a 2024 CX-30 my civic was $23K brand new out the door back then and the 2024 Mazda CX-30 sport was 25K out the door in today's market for an awd small SUV that's a steal when you look at the prices of civics today and the prices of any HRV comparable to the CX-30. The CX-30 is a steal and I also got the leather interior and it beats the fuel economy of the HR-V, and gets the same gas milage as my civic with so much more room and the awd is a huge plus in the winter. I'm also glad to get away from the CVT Transmissions
I come here because there is never clickbait or hyperbole.
Nope, just constant black pills...
What??? All he did was walk around and video window stickers. Complete waste of time.
@@dant.6364are you ignorant this is on most of his videos to show comparisons of different dealers and inventory what are you crying about???
Not a bad price on that CRV. We bought a new CRV in 2010. It was the same as you showed, but with leather interior. So an EX-L AWD model. It was about $27K+ back in 2010. An EX model AWD had an MSRP of $25K back in 2010. That is an increase of about $9K over 15 years. That is about a 2% per year increase in price. Not bad at all. Basically kept with normal inflation, and would have been much higher if it had gone up the amount of inflation we saw over the last couple of years.
NEVER EVER pay for Nitrogen in tires. The air we breathe is 78.4% Nitrogen gas...basically they are charging you for air.
One of our kids inherited my 2011 Honda Civic with just 120k miles and in excellent conditions, to go to college. A very reliable vehicle.
Two years ago we sold our Toyota Highlander with 400k miles and it was in good condition. We went shopping to at least 5 different Toyota dealers, and as you stated, WALKED AWAY. They all wanted $39K or more for just a basic model RAV. We ended up with a CRV EX for $32K out the door price.
I’m on my 3rd Honda, around 100k miles on each, never had an issue other than a trunk piston, replaced it for like 50 bucks.
I had the valve train rebuilt at 20k miles because of knocking on my 22 ridgeline and then I went and traded it in as fast as I could knowing that its going to spit a rod any day.
2004 Acura TSX 114,000 miles
1990 Toyota Pickup 191,000
They run great.
No car payment
Cheap insurance.
Paid 47k for the 2022 hybrid crv ex during the "Chip/covid shortage" where it was no negotiations, take or leave it. Had to put our name on a list and wait 3 weeks... choose between 2 colors. So this looks amazing to me.
I walked into a Honda dealer the other day and they have alot of 2024 Accord hybrids that are a no sale because of fuel pump recall. The sales guy said those cars prob won’t be available for sale until March. Made me change my mind about a Honda. Especially when the dealer tried to offer me way below trade in value.
It's definitely good to assume the problems will persist. It will take a few years till we know for sure that the new engines are good.
Engine problems? And going with cvt transmissions? Also raising there prices? 🤦♂️
I was gonna get a Pilot last year, but 60k for an Elite was just too much. I got a used Mercedes. I may get a Honda next, though. They make sense.
I’m still driving my 2010 Ridgeline and no problem just regular maintenance
4 Months ago I got a brand new 2023 Honda Passport TrailSport manufacturated 09/23 with only 50 miles on it for $36.500 out the door, was the last 2023 they have it for sale in the lot that day.
Car has been very nice we like it a lot.
Great channel! As for the roughly 13:40 mark - if you want a $21-22k Civic, hop over to the Kia dealer instead. They have reasonably-equipped Fortes (and now they're getting the K4, the Forte's replacement) for under $23k MSRP. It's not as good as the Civic, but it's thousands less and has a big trunk and roomy enough back seat. In 2022 I bought a Forte GT with the technology package and it was STILL under $27k. And really, really loaded. My company has a Kia delivery car and it's still humming along at 105,000 miles.
Good point. Kia makes a good car with loads of features.
The average price of vehicles is not $50K……this guy needs to stop lying.
Are you comfortable with the engine lasting? I recently bought a Corolla and didn’t consider the Koreans due to their reliability reputation. The Forte definitely looks like a nice little car but I was coming from a Volkswagen so I wanted something that wouldn’t cause me headaches.
I do love my Corolla though, but again… the Forte (K3 now?) looks good.
The Forte's 1.6 l isn't one of the problem engines for Hyundai/Kia, so I'm not too worried. But as an engine, I'm not a fan of these modern little overstressed DI turbos, because it does have somewhat old school lag.@@michaelw6277
@@michaelw6277 The GT has the 1.6L turbo, which hasn't been one of the troublesome Hyundai/Kia engines. I think I'd still avoid anything with a 2.0L or 2.4L. Funny thing, Kia recently jumped way up to number 8 on JD Powers' 2024 top reliable brand list.
Screw the new cars
I’ve bought used/preowns & still drive them all right now
2016 Acura RLX; 2014 TSX Sedan; 2012 TSX Wagon; 2011 TSX Sedan; 2012 Honda Odessey
Cheaper insurance & maintenance
Listen to ur logic...the same shit applies to brand new cars...only u enjoy 3, 4 yrs of no worries and a brand new car...also did u say less maintenance on an older car? Lol..no sir
I purchased a CR-V EX-L (higher trim) with radiant red (higher cost color) for $35,683 this summer. They deleted all add-ons. I paid it off. No payments!
The Touring is top of the line. The light gray might make it look bigger.
The probe is on the V6 engine.
That blue looks better in person than on my iPad.
I had a 1979 CVCC. Loved that car
So did my parents! Good memories!
Going thru this now with a damn 2024 Honda. Finding that what used to be a great dealer. They are now finding a way to exclude warranty items to charge the diagnostic fee.
Very frustrating 😡
I know there’s a lot of people that are trashing Honda’s here. I have owned 5 Honda’s. I have a new 2024 Honda Civic Touring and it’s fantastic. Perfect? No…Too expensive…Yes. It’s smooth, peppy, and handles great! Grand slam for Honda.
It is very easy and comfortable to relate to what you are saying. As a marketing professional, I also believe in telling it like it is and find that the people that I work with value that. Thank you for some great advice!
I work for small Honda store in N.C. For a couple of months or so, we have at least 30 vehicles on stop sale. I would imagine that may contribute to the increased day’s supply. CIAO!!!
New Honda Civics should be $15,000 to 18,000 and New Accords $20,000 to 23,000.. Anything more is ripping the consumers off..
Used Hondas are worth more than that...a product is worth what someones willing to pay
@@jimmyjay689 Only because people "think" the vehicle is an asset and not a liability. People buy based on the payment not the actual total cost of the vehicle. Commercialism at its best..
2007 is the year you looking for to travel back to.
What do you expect to happen when the money supply in your country increases at the rate it did after covid? Funny people have such short memories, as if that stimmy money wouldnt come back to bite 😂
You can thank your government for printing cash or also known as inflation.
This company is still making $1,100 cars 5 days a week complete Matt Greensburg Honda plant in Indiana. And working every other Saturday till the end of the year.
I am in the market also for a new car but as many of us have said, I will keep what I have! Have a 2017 CRV 117,000 miles. It runs like the day I bought it. 0 issues so far. A new one at 35,000….no thanks.
But check out Mitsubishi. Right now a loaded 36,000 dollar outlander is selling for 30,000 with 0.9 financing. Car is made in Japan and has 100,000 mile power train and 60,000 mile bumper to bumper! This could be worth a look!
Mitsubishi's never had great engines
Yeah I did my research. You are correct. The early models before the recent gen (2022) did have its share of problems but recent ratings have been very good. Not to mention 100,000 mile warranty. There is a dealership in Maryland that is doubling that warranty!!!! I sat in one the other day…..gotta say it was very upscale…the discounts were pretty insane up to 5 and 6 thousand off MSRP. I will be ready to buy in 2025 and will definitely keep this one on my short list especially if they keep up with the discounts. My Honda snd Toyota dealerships are not even close to that discount. Time will tell.
@@allanpontiere6177 I wasn't specifically saying these new ones are bad I think they have a Nissan Rogue chassis if I'm not mistaken. Mitsubishi's always had soft engines that would burn oil prematurely I remember those 3000Gt and diamante's V6 wouldn't last all that long
yep correct again. They are based on the Rogue. I will do more research before I buy which at this point I am in no hurry. Prices are still crazy high but the outlander is on my radar. As mentioned the SE and the SEL are very upscale and premium on interior. Thanks for the feedback. Maybe Brandon can do a video on Mitsubishi to see how they are doing in this ridiculous car market!
I have a 23 hrv exl, ive had it for 2 years, no problems at all. It has a K20 2.0 engine NA, no turbo 1.5 liter engine, port injections, no gdi, no stop and go. The only thing would be the cvt transmission. So far its been great.
We got one Feb2023 25kmiles. Excellent so far, another 20hp would kill CR-V sales.
Unfortunately if you live in a rural area going to another dealer is not always an option. Imagine that only works in a highly populated area.
I’m driving a 2000 Honda accord 218,000 miles and a 2014 Honda Ridgeline 164,000 miles paid for and both running great I won’t ever buy a new car again! Mine are very reliable and parts are a lot cheaper than payments !
Wasn't it over last week and weeks before and months before that..
My first car was a 1987 honda civic wagon i got for $300. Lasted a couple years too. If you dont mind wrenching im a big advocate for buying used cars and saving money. The new market is crazy expensive and the modern cars are built like crap compared to 20-30 years ago. I currently drive a 2000 crown Victoria with 100k miles i got for cheap. Has ac and all the features i expect
In Canada, they want $50,000 plus for a Honda Accord out the door.
Very few people in my country have that kind of money to spend on a new car.
If car companies don't start making more affordable cars, they will all go bankrupt.
I have an open recall on my 2019 Ridgeline for fuel pump failure. Going in 13 months and no parts
As a used car dealer, running a buy here/pay here, why wouldn't you make a connection to several used car managers, and offer them buy bids on their lower dollar trade ins, instead of wasting your money at an auction?
Bought a 2024 4Runner Limited 4X4 new in July. It was the last year of the 5th generation. V6 and loving it. Wouldn’t have bought a 2025 when 6th gen comes out with turbo crap.
Also got mine $3000 under msrp, no add-ons and paid cash. Dealer made little money off me
That Blue Civic looks so 🔥
Which Honda models / engines have the problems?
5 years ago CR v was 25k for an EX awd?
I have a 2019 Odyssey I bought new and I’m hoping that if my engine had this issue it’d have exploded by now. Oil changed every 5k and the oil always comes out clean with no sparkle. *knocks on wood*
My sister works at Dollar Tree and makes $15 per hr and her sister works at a Buffet making $32,000 per year .. both want to buy a new car but can't afford them. At this pace they will never be able to afford a new car .....When I was 18 I bought my first car a new Honda and paid $6,000 (plain Jane Civic with manual and no A/C) and was making $8 per hr at 18-19 years old at a job after High School. My sister's SUV is 21 yrs old with super high miles.
As a CR-V Hybrid Touring owner for the past 1.5 years, let me clear up a few points.
1) Not a single issue has happened.
2) There's nothing "small" (as in small SUV) about the CR-V these days. It's rather big.
3) The prices are very good and well worth every penny. That's why it's one of the top-selling vehicles in the world.
4) The quality and materials are excellent.
5) I routinely get 600 miles per full fill-up.
6) Its driving characteristics are the best in its class.
7) It's worth every penny and more.
1.5 years does not prove any longevity.
Lol 2 points about how it's worth every penny makes me think it's not worth every penny
You showed me the sun in the background and I almost sneezed twice 😅
Bought my 2017 CR-V brand new, have since paid it off, and had numerous issues in the first 3 years of ownership. Fortunately, most of those issues were addressed during the warranty period. However, many other CR-V owners across the country experienced catastrophic engine failure due to oil dilution (or whatever). So far, I’ve got under 70k miles on mine and the only issue I’m having (still having) is with the touchscreen on the dashboard going schizo every so often. Honda already replaced it once, and the new touchscreen is having the same issues as the old one. Won’t go back to Honda ever again. My first 3 years with this vehicle were a headache. My next vehicle will likely be a Toyota.
Checking in at 2:40... 35k for a 1.5L Engine is the kicker... Thats no power at all. Baby motor asking for all the money.
We are looking for a slightly used vehicle because it is going to take more money to fix our 10-year-old Rogue than it is worth. It is really hard to figure out what vehicle to go with. New is way out of budget unfortunately. We would love to get into a Pathfinder but we have been hearing that they have a ton of issues. My sister has a 2015 Honda Pilot and loves it has had little work done on it. We found a 2022 Honda Pilot Special, but with that year being so close to what is being recalled and knowing they reconfigured the 2023 I am a bit reluctant. We also tried out a 2023 Kia Telluride which I found very comfortable, but they are not known for reliability. It is a very hard time to be in need of updating your vehicle. Do you think the 2022 Honda Pilot would be a safe bet?
Well the made the crvs AWD making it 2 to 3k more expensive. Forcing you to get the base model if you can find it
-Dude, Honda has experienced steering issues with their Civics, HRVs and Accords. The older 3.5L engine from 2017 to 2019 has crankshaft issues. TOyota has engine and transmission issues in their new Tundras and Tacomas respectively. The Fords and GM vehicles have recall issues as well. Nissans are not selling either. I don't think that the prices are coming down anywhere for awhile if not at all. Dealers will have to reduce their final offers to move new cars, or you will see many dealerships going broke.
So what is the Engine Failure Notice? The 1.5L Turbo in CRVs? The Hybrids? The news flash included a recall on Acuras too? Which ones? The only maker that increasing sales is Mazda! At the expense of Honda, Toyota, Ford, etc.
You're forgetting the stop sale recalls on steering racks and high pressure fuel pumps ballooning dealer inventory.
Dealers were short on vehicles because of the supply chains. It's not going to recover the same for each dealership. They knew that they had to sell to get more. Now, many are getting more to sell. Yes many older cars are still around. Many are buying luxury cars with bumps and bruises. The market is mixed. No need to panic.
Much better colours for new vehicles now, about time.
Randy Keuhl Honda in Cedar Rapids, Iowa sells cars at a fast rate bc they are upfront and workable and also have great customer service. They know what the best sell price is and will work with you. Also Chevy Equinox AWD is the best vehicle to trade in with Randy Keuhl
which engines have problems.? Which models? THis is the information we want.
Was at the Honda dealer looking at a used car and their lot was packed with new cars, and used for that matter. Fort Worth Tx
had a 1986 prelude SI, the rear view mirror mount broke after a month, and they wouldn't replace it. said it wasn't under the warranty, they Lost a life long customer over a little ball clamp on a rear view mirror. wow.
Was just there after my car was totaled. Was going for a base civic sport. They barely discounted the car. It came to around 30 grand. I walked out of the finance office at the signing after thinking about 30 grand for a civic that only gets 35mpg when I can get a 2025 Camry that has twice the power twice the room better reputation and gets 50mpg. Like get it together Honda.
I'm looking at a brand new nissan 2023 rouge . Any issues with them. I was ready to buy a gmc terrian but its so uncomfortable and noticed it doesn't hold its value
My older Hondas were bullet proof. My 1st gen 98 CRV was incredible. My 88 Accord was the same. I left Honda in 2010 for Toyota and Subaru. I may return to Honda but only after the engine issues are fixed and the prices come down.
Brandon, that's what my Honda Civic Hatchback Sport Touring listed for MSRP $33,000 but I added the factory spoiler for $650 dealer installed. The SP stands for Sport not Special, my car is Platinum White Pearl, you couldn't give me that awful looking loud color Boost Blue Pearl on that Civic you showed, that's why it's still sitting on the lot. The 2025 has a new front fascia & it lost it's fog lights, why I ordered my 2024 back early March, didn't want a 2025 or a Hybrid version!
I just sent my manual 2005 civic with 300k miles to junkyard today. I paid $2300 used around 2015.
New cars have much higher insurance. Save me a lot in insurance throughout the years.
I buy vehicles three to four years old with around 35,000 miles for half of new. Then drive them 15 years.
I bought my 2022 accord sport special edition 2 years ago and I absolutely love it. I’m glad it’s not on the recall list.
Still driving my 2012 Civic LX with 315k miles. Still runs and drives great.
The dealer ad-ons are beyond ludicrous! My local Honda dealership adds $1200 worth of floor mats and mud guards! Pure greed!
When you show the Factory Sticker, include the dealer mark up’s. I’ve noticed you purposely do not.
When I show the dealer markups people cry that I need to just show msrp... Can't win with you guys haha