Wow bro, you made some really great points here. If the Black Frieza Arc plays out like you said, it could very well be the greatest arc in Dragon Ball history. I'm excited for what the future of the anime will hold.
I don't really know if Super should go. "The entire Multiverse is at stake" arc yet. It's cool, but I feel like we've barely seen enough of the multiverse to really go that far and really feel what that means. I mean, aside from 6, 7 and 11 does anyone actually care about the universes? Probably not. I'd probably extend that to the gods too, no one cares about them if they aren't in Universe 7. It probably would have been better to save an arc like this for the end when we did have more of a connection to what Super established.
That’s a fair point, but I feel like even if they take the time to build up other universes, they won’t focus on things like 3 or 9. They’ll focus on 6 and 11 more than anything.
@@InnovativeJdawg Yeah, that's probably true. With how the other universes were shown in the TOP, they definitely didn't come out as interesting as 6 or 11.
I personally would love to see -End of Z/Training with Uub -Maybe Vegeta decides to visit Planet Planet Sadala. Then help those Saiyans with their problems. Hell, bring Broly, Trunks and Goten.... Bulla too! Lol -Have Freeza looking around the universe (or universes) to build up some incredibly strong force. Also, show that he has OG73 in his possession. -Have a saga where Beerus/Whis send Gohan and Piccolo on a mission they cant be bother to take care of. Maybe they gotta help another universe out..... hell, bring Pan along! Lol I never understood why MANY MANY people want the Black Freeza Saga right away. He was literally introduced at the end of the last saga. Let him be a huge threat that they know they have to train up for. Itd be a massive waste to just have him defeated in the next saga. Be patient people 😅
Blackfrieza is a waste of chapter honestly ,we want a good scaling like evil buu coming back,other universe threats etc.jiren ...I want a universe 7 confrontation with other universe,also goku fighting with other gods of destruction
Goku vs Vegeta will be the eventual final arc of Dragon Ball surely? It would be hard to top killing of Frieza for good, but killing of a beloved character is the way to say the series is over.
I think they could easily just toss it into a chapter to re-establish it and get new fans acquainted with it. Whether it be half a chapter, or even just a page like what they did with the Broly movie.
I think there should be a freeza arc but Throw a plot twist and add the 6 universes that were deleted by Zeno. Im very much over freeza but there should be something bigger than just Freeza. We were introduced to the grand priest, Zeno, the gods, and angels. I'd really like to see them in something. The end of universal tourney opened up good possibilities
Honestly, that does sound cool. Ive always enjoyed the mystery however, of what Goku and Uub did at the end. It gave us an imagination that basically had us thinking of endless adventures in dragonball. Also, i do kinda hope they make GT canon someday lol
That’s fair! I like the idea of a constantly ongoing adventure type of ending. Although speaking of GT, I much prefer that ending because it captured that feel but still gave off a sense of closure
@@InnovativeJdawg I agree, GT's ending was peak. Honestly a re-written GT set in the Super continuity would be an extremely smart move as they'd be able to keep on making DragonBall and banking in cash whilst giving us something great. Like, in GT it could possibly be that Goku's Kid Body makes him unable to access God Ki, so he uses the old Ssj forms, and then Ssj4 remedies the God Ki loss as it canonically brings the battle power inside the user to its utmost
I like the points you made and agree that black Frieza needs maybe an arc or 2 before he becomes a central villain. One of the things Super lacks is actually exploring the other universes and their characters. I want the gods of destruction to be more involved.
I agree with u and other ppl in comment section We don't feel any attachment to other universe expect 7 (or maybe 6 and 11 too) Before god butcher frieza arc we must explore more universes You really made me excited for upcoming dbs arcs❤
Those are awesome predictions I honestly think for the black Freeza arc I would love to see Gohan and Broly fuse since they both go berserk and make Brohan or do multiple fusion transformations and make a gogetenks (Gogeta and Gotenks)
That sounds like a good idea but I feel like they would have to do much to make a arc with Frieza as the main villain interesting because we have seen him be the villain before and doing it again might come off as repetitive depending how its written but I feel like the idea of Frieza serving as a dangerous ally that that have to work with to defeat a greater threat can serve as a more interesting interaction with stories especially the ways that Frieza has slightly changed over the years. Before the go into a multiversal threat it would be better to expand on the other universes with characters like Hit, Jiren, or new characters serving as the main characters in their own arcs in order to build up the universes more.
I'm sorry if my English is not very good but I agree Frieza should be eliminated from the story (in a good story), they should cover Ubb's training and also go to the universes that have been closest on 6 and 11. And To finish the whole story, the evil dragons must be canon, but a long story with good development, but I think there are many years left before the end
@@InnovativeJdawg if they reuse the plot of dbz fusion reborn in where gogeta one shots frieza with the stardust breaker then i think that would be where they can connect it back to the end of z storyline
Hey are you going to be doing like another suit ranking video of all the suits from the Spider-Man games like from Marvel Spider-Man 1 to Miles and now to Marvel Spider-Man 2?
The 10 year timeskip has never stopped us from not knowing what will happen. Theres no way you can look at the end of Z and tell me you saw any of the Super arcs coming lol
No, the Super stuff itself could have never been predicted, but we knew where it would end up. Everything Super has done had to lead us back to the way we saw the End of Z.
I have a theory to what will happen next remeber when they revaled how the namekians are from a diffrent dimesion well i think the sayians will go there snd train and fight maybe 2 more protagsints before frezia but baseicly the dimeson will br like other world but better then frezias time chamber that he used to get his black form thats my theroy plus it be a good way to make a janemba like oppent canon
This may be an unpopular opinion but what if Frieza is going through a character development arc like Vegeta. What if Frieza is slowly turning good, highly unlikely but not impossible
@@InnovativeJdawg he would definitely beat beerus,goku and vegeta are currently capable to give beerus a good fight. Black frieza could kill goku and vegeta in seconds beerus maybe in minutes
I personally don't think Super should immediately go into the end of Z in chapter 100 and instead have a mini arc leading up to it like the trunks and Goten arc that lead into the current super hero story I think a cool Idea would be to have a small arc showing the time of Goku training Pan that leads into the tournament since both to let us see more of who Pan is as a character, but also it would be a great chance to show why Goku decided to go off and train Uub also they use Goku training with his Granddaughter as a way to have Goku look back on the time he spent with Grandpa Gohan as a child, and it could also be the perfect story line to finally see Pan achieve Super Saiyan for the first time as for Frieza if they want him to be Supers end game and conquering all of the universes I think a great Idea would be to have the time skip be a time with him plotting and after words instead of dealing with him directly we instead get arcs of the characters helping the other universes dealing with problems created by Frieza that all eventually leads to a final battle with him facing the strongest warriors of every universe including the characters we already know like Hit and Jiren as well as new characters from the future arcs
Only 20 episodes. Wonder what they will do with them. Honestly, I don’t want to see all the characters as kids for very long. It will tune me out quick.
@@InnovativeJdawg It is waste of time doing black frieza arc, unless is coola arc not frieza arc. I bet more fans want coola arc more than frieza. It will be a waste of time if every single time frieza get a arc for a new transformation . Rather than fighting frieza there got to fight coola and frieza black is the best.
then friza is gonna show up with that lgbt rainbow frieza beating ultra vegito and beerus for no reason, i'm glad we are going to deal with daima. Super sucks anyway the story shouldve ended with Z
It is stated to be canon …. How ever it isint super it’s called daima because the story or anime is going to be based on them being kids trying to go back to being adults and ish…. Who knows if super is coming back with movies like Moro and granola I highly doubt it since superhero goku mentioned frieza couldn’t find Broly there so at this point idk what is going to happen with dragon ball either
Why didn’t you make a Spider-Man 2 suit ranking yet? I really wanted to see a video like that. Doesn’t need to include all variants, just the defaults.
Personally, I'm not interested in a kids Dragonball series so I'm not looking forward to Daima however; I am interested to see where Gohan's story goes after the events of Super Hero; especially since they've been teasing it since Z.
Wow bro, you made some really great points here. If the Black Frieza Arc plays out like you said, it could very well be the greatest arc in Dragon Ball history. I'm excited for what the future of the anime will hold.
Thanks! I’m curious if they’ll end up doing it next or holding off on it to build it up more
I don't really know if Super should go. "The entire Multiverse is at stake" arc yet. It's cool, but I feel like we've barely seen enough of the multiverse to really go that far and really feel what that means. I mean, aside from 6, 7 and 11 does anyone actually care about the universes? Probably not. I'd probably extend that to the gods too, no one cares about them if they aren't in Universe 7. It probably would have been better to save an arc like this for the end when we did have more of a connection to what Super established.
That’s a fair point, but I feel like even if they take the time to build up other universes, they won’t focus on things like 3 or 9. They’ll focus on 6 and 11 more than anything.
@@InnovativeJdawg Yeah, that's probably true. With how the other universes were shown in the TOP, they definitely didn't come out as interesting as 6 or 11.
Hell I wish they would focus on the other 5 that got erased by Zeno long before the events of DB
I 100% agree I feel like we have finally gotten to a point with mastered ui that we are 1-2 levels below being able to tackle multiverse threats
@@firionkaiser8291our universe against the dark universes that should have been destroyed
I personally would love to see
-End of Z/Training with Uub
-Maybe Vegeta decides to visit Planet Planet Sadala. Then help those Saiyans with their problems. Hell, bring Broly, Trunks and Goten.... Bulla too! Lol
-Have Freeza looking around the universe (or universes) to build up some incredibly strong force. Also, show that he has OG73 in his possession.
-Have a saga where Beerus/Whis send Gohan and Piccolo on a mission they cant be bother to take care of. Maybe they gotta help another universe out..... hell, bring Pan along! Lol
I never understood why MANY MANY people want the Black Freeza Saga right away. He was literally introduced at the end of the last saga. Let him be a huge threat that they know they have to train up for. Itd be a massive waste to just have him defeated in the next saga. Be patient people 😅
All are some pretty good ideas!
Blackfrieza is a waste of chapter honestly ,we want a good scaling like evil buu coming back,other universe threats etc.jiren ...I want a universe 7 confrontation with other universe,also goku fighting with other gods of destruction
It’s wayy too soon for an endgame esque Black frieza arc
I agree, if they end up going the endgame route rather than having it be a generic arc
Imagine black Frieza says “this isn’t even my final form” 😂😂
Goku vs Vegeta will be the eventual final arc of Dragon Ball surely? It would be hard to top killing of Frieza for good, but killing of a beloved character is the way to say the series is over.
I’ve seen a lot of people say the series should end with a final bout between the two. Would definitely feel appropriate!
Not kill but a final standoff remember they are the next angel and vegeta next God of destruction 😅
I want them to skip End of Z. We have it already. And its great! Just pick up right after it.
I think they could easily just toss it into a chapter to re-establish it and get new fans acquainted with it. Whether it be half a chapter, or even just a page like what they did with the Broly movie.
I think there should be a freeza arc but Throw a plot twist and add the 6 universes that were deleted by Zeno. Im very much over freeza but there should be something bigger than just Freeza. We were introduced to the grand priest, Zeno, the gods, and angels. I'd really like to see them in something. The end of universal tourney opened up good possibilities
i find it crazy that TUI goku and UE vegeta had trouble with gornolah and base frieza one shots him so hard!
6:12 I think that reworking the end of z into the black frieza arc would be interesting
Definitely, if they end up going that route
Honestly, that does sound cool. Ive always enjoyed the mystery however, of what Goku and Uub did at the end. It gave us an imagination that basically had us thinking of endless adventures in dragonball. Also, i do kinda hope they make GT canon someday lol
That’s fair! I like the idea of a constantly ongoing adventure type of ending. Although speaking of GT, I much prefer that ending because it captured that feel but still gave off a sense of closure
@@InnovativeJdawg I agree, GT's ending was peak. Honestly a re-written GT set in the Super continuity would be an extremely smart move as they'd be able to keep on making DragonBall and banking in cash whilst giving us something great. Like, in GT it could possibly be that Goku's Kid Body makes him unable to access God Ki, so he uses the old Ssj forms, and then Ssj4 remedies the God Ki loss as it canonically brings the battle power inside the user to its utmost
I like the points you made and agree that black Frieza needs maybe an arc or 2 before he becomes a central villain. One of the things Super lacks is actually exploring the other universes and their characters. I want the gods of destruction to be more involved.
Thanks! I agree, I’d like to see more of the other universes too
I agree with u and other ppl in comment section
We don't feel any attachment to other universe expect 7 (or maybe 6 and 11 too)
Before god butcher frieza arc we must explore more universes
You really made me excited for upcoming dbs arcs❤
Those are awesome predictions I honestly think for the black Freeza arc I would love to see Gohan and Broly fuse since they both go berserk and make Brohan or do multiple fusion transformations and make a gogetenks (Gogeta and Gotenks)
I will always believe that there is a Goku and vegeta with Ssj4 transformation in one of these universes
can't wait for Uub to actually have a character
I hope
That sounds like a good idea but I feel like they would have to do much to make a arc with Frieza as the main villain interesting because we have seen him be the villain before and doing it again might come off as repetitive depending how its written but I feel like the idea of Frieza serving as a dangerous ally that that have to work with to defeat a greater threat can serve as a more interesting interaction with stories especially the ways that Frieza has slightly changed over the years.
Before the go into a multiversal threat it would be better to expand on the other universes with characters like Hit, Jiren, or new characters serving as the main characters in their own arcs in order to build up the universes more.
A Black Frieza arc with him as this big bad multiversal threat would be a good way to write him out of the story permanently imo
I'm sorry if my English is not very good but I agree Frieza should be eliminated from the story (in a good story), they should cover Ubb's training and also go to the universes that have been closest on 6 and 11. And To finish the whole story, the evil dragons must be canon, but a long story with good development, but I think there are many years left before the end
They said they had ten years planned so this can happen but not this soon
Remeber Whis had witnessed
frieza (somewhat) and is not that much concerned about that maybe
i know how they can do the black frieza arc's ending that being to repeat the same ending that kid buu from the buu saga had
Possibly, DBS tends to repeat a lot of story beats
@@InnovativeJdawg if they reuse the plot of dbz fusion reborn in where gogeta one shots frieza with the stardust breaker then i think that would be where they can connect it back to the end of z storyline
Hey are you going to be doing like another suit ranking video of all the suits from the Spider-Man games like from Marvel Spider-Man 1 to Miles and now to Marvel Spider-Man 2?
I probably won’t do a video like that for a while. I’ll do a video specifically for Spider-Man 2 soon though.
It’s def way too soon for black frieza . We need more build up and world building then we’ll be good.
The 10 year timeskip has never stopped us from not knowing what will happen. Theres no way you can look at the end of Z and tell me you saw any of the Super arcs coming lol
No, the Super stuff itself could have never been predicted, but we knew where it would end up. Everything Super has done had to lead us back to the way we saw the End of Z.
Kinda crazy to think the last time we actually saw the curent z fighters was during the buu saga
I have a theory to what will happen next remeber when they revaled how the namekians are from a diffrent dimesion well i think the sayians will go there snd train and fight maybe 2 more protagsints before frezia but baseicly the dimeson will br like other world but better then frezias time chamber that he used to get his black form thats my theroy plus it be a good way to make a janemba like oppent canon
This may be an unpopular opinion but what if Frieza is going through a character development arc like Vegeta. What if Frieza is slowly turning good, highly unlikely but not impossible
Super should have went past z in the goku black arc .
I think the ToP would’ve been a good final arc before the end of z
Black frieza could toe to toe with Beerus and stalemate him but Whis is another monster
We don’t know the extent of Frieza’s power though so it’s hard to tell how he stacks against other characters
@@InnovativeJdawg he would definitely beat beerus,goku and vegeta are currently capable to give beerus a good fight.
Black frieza could kill goku and vegeta in seconds
beerus maybe in minutes
I see no reason Black Freeza has to be endgame.
It doesn’t HAVE to be. But there’s a lot of reasons that it COULD be.
I personally don't think Super should immediately go into the end of Z in chapter 100 and instead have a mini arc leading up to it like the trunks and Goten arc that lead into the current super hero story
I think a cool Idea would be to have a small arc showing the time of Goku training Pan that leads into the tournament since both to let us see more of who Pan is as a character, but also it would be a great chance to show why Goku decided to go off and train Uub
also they use Goku training with his Granddaughter as a way to have Goku look back on the time he spent with Grandpa Gohan as a child, and it could also be the perfect story line to finally see Pan achieve Super Saiyan for the first time
as for Frieza if they want him to be Supers end game and conquering all of the universes I think a great Idea would be to have the time skip be a time with him plotting and after words instead of dealing with him directly we instead get arcs of the characters helping the other universes dealing with problems created by Frieza that all eventually leads to a final battle with him facing the strongest warriors of every universe including the characters we already know like Hit and Jiren as well as new characters from the future arcs
I believe daima will be a remake of what GT should be
It could be
Only 20 episodes. Wonder what they will do with them. Honestly, I don’t want to see all the characters as kids for very long. It will tune me out quick.
Not dragon Ball z related, but it's time for a spiderman 2 suits ranking
I’m working on it
I predict vegeta will get a W and beat frieza if he does later in the manga pin this comment
I feel like they should build it up first that big End Game battle
1 Training Arc
2 End Of Z
3 2 or 4 mini Arc
4 Dimma or Black Arc
5 BLACK FRIEZA
No frieza arc please , Coola arc better. Frieza has too many arc and there is already a frieza movie already.
They’re going to have to do another Frieza arc one way or another
@@InnovativeJdawg It is waste of time doing black frieza arc, unless is coola arc not frieza arc. I bet more fans want coola arc more than frieza. It will be a waste of time if every single time frieza get a arc for a new transformation . Rather than fighting frieza there got to fight coola and frieza black is the best.
then friza is gonna show up with that lgbt rainbow frieza beating ultra vegito and beerus for no reason, i'm glad we are going to deal with daima. Super sucks anyway the story shouldve ended with Z
Well technically we aren’t even to the end of z yet lol
Daima is clearly super.
It isn’t.
You couldn’t be more wrong. Daima is a completely different side story. It has nothing to do with super.
It is stated to be canon …. How ever it isint super it’s called daima because the story or anime is going to be based on them being kids trying to go back to being adults and ish…. Who knows if super is coming back with movies like Moro and granola I highly doubt it since superhero goku mentioned frieza couldn’t find Broly there so at this point idk what is going to happen with dragon ball either
Why didn’t you make a Spider-Man 2 suit ranking yet? I really wanted to see a video like that. Doesn’t need to include all variants, just the defaults.
I’m working on it.
@@InnovativeJdawg that’s great. I love the Spider-Man suit rankings. 👍
Personally, I'm not interested in a kids Dragonball series so I'm not looking forward to Daima however; I am interested to see where Gohan's story goes after the events of Super Hero; especially since they've been teasing it since Z.
i doubt this is the endgame for dragon ball lmao.
I’m not saying NOW is the endgame, but the concept of Black Frieza COULD be
Or dragon ball ends
Not likely, at least not right now
A cooler arc or raditz coming back as a android would be cool imo
Super is ass gt was better much better stories better transformations better respect for saiyan power
Stop cursing its a sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........
Are you working on or planning on making Spider-Man 2 suit ranking video?
Yes
Imagine black Frieza says “this isn’t even my final form” 😂😂