Last Epoch Merchants Guild Or CoF? Which is Better? Level 100 Gear Comparison
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Last Epoch Merchants Guild Or CoF? Which is Better? Level 100 Gear Comparison
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This is obviously just our subjective opinions here, and it leaves out a lot of context like how crazy trade is with all of the 0 gold listings and if MG will die within a month into the cycle etc, but we thought we could add a little bit of extra discussion to this argument.
At high enough corruption, every single minion will have more health and damage than the hardest PoE boss.@@tripleraze321
Whats amazing about this system is that both factions workand it's not one sided so it's the most brilliant design of an arpg every arpg should learn from this.
MG needs a preorder system. Allow sellers to see and complete buyer order requests. It would help guage true item values and lessen unsold bloat.
Also a notification for when (specific, think loot filter) items are listed would be a great feature for buyers.
The best part about playing CoF is that the prophecies provide structure to every play session. It feels like you never stop levelling up.
CoF feels like it's own league mechanic.
Agreed, it’s very cool
I'm dropping T7 exalted left and right as CoF and I just entered mono. It's gotten so wild I already filled a tab of my stash with them in a few hours. I thought my filter would be too strict but now it feels not strict enough. What bothers me is that my gold income isn't great and I need to buy more tabs that I can afford and I hate that feeling.
I would also say that CoF might be harder for new players because you have to be clever with your prophecies and being flooded with random gear doesn't help you get the right gear you want. If you really have no clue what you are doing it's probably best to farm gold/sell decent items and then buy whatever key item a build guide tells you. (Granted you can kind of do the same with a good filter and playing CoF).
One thing that really needs to improve in the merchants guild is the search features. They are so limited you wind up scrolling through endless pages of items and this is made worse by not having anyway to save or watch an item you are considering. meaning if you decide to by it later your are scrolling back through every item again.
They definitely need to adjust the Merchants Guild - merge all purple items into 1 level, and instead just spread out the LP1,2,3 and 4 onto last 3-4 levels of reputation. Getting first purple non-weapon item trades near level 95 is bad
Hey Dread, great video as always! I also just hit 100 with CoF about to be rank 9 too and I'll be honest, I think this might be underselling just how powerful prophecies can be for LP Uniques. I've been running the double drop / double procs and rerolling for the quick ones with unique helm / unique body armors / unique daggers and it pumps targeted uniques insanely fast. Rank 9 will give a 3rd lens which makes this even more powerful, and rank 10 will provide another doubling for prophecy drops.
I'm playing Fissure warlock and already have a +4 profane twisted heart, T6 Movespeed last steps, DoT ghost maker, 10 Barbutes with LP waiting to be slammed, 3 2LP Exsangs to slam, bunch of ghost makers, etc. And most of that was just in the last day or so after I figured out how strong the lens drop stacking is. Also literally 11 more tabs of random LP uniques I might play with later.
Rank 10 will be a whole extra level of literally 30+ uniques per prophecy, each with a higher chance to be LP which is completely insane.
Gotta give props to EHG though this feels absolutely amazing.
Well, for me its about what feels more satisfying. Sometimes the hunt for Items is the thing what keeps me engaged. Getting BIS (or at least a near 90 percentile) is nice but than the progression is basically done in terms of youre character. As usual, just go for what feels best and what you perceive as worth it :). At the end, its just a game.
I'm CoF rank 7, almost 8, and I feel like the value of CoF depends, partly, on how knowledgeable you are with the game. CoF will drop you tons of loot, but if you don't know what is or isn't valuable, you're losing out on some amount of what makes it good. I think that's worth mentioning in these types of discussions.
Great video! I really appreciate the side by side comparison. I suspect you may have done a bit better than the average Market Guild player Dread, as you have extensive game knowledge of what to look for and why.
I'm also playing COF and I'm a huge twinker/hoarder. So far I got to 93 and I got five tabs of 1+ LP items and I also added filter for t6 because there are too much of them. If you want to try different things - COF all the way, you will never have enough money for tabs to hoard everything you pick
i dropped 2 LP orian's eye off a prophecie, its insane
I got a 4LP soul bastion out of nowhere not sure what to do with it
Excellent comparison
I think trade is definitely better in early end game. When you start pushing corruption. But I think cof is gonna be better when you're trying to min max the perfect gear.
Why would that ever be the case though? More people in high corruption means more high LP items on the market. You will most likely be able to buy the 3 or 4 lp items you need more easily than dropping them in cof
You won't find many double tier 7 epic items in trade
@@stevenward4830 and why is that? I see plenty on the market. We are comparing like a 10x more loot multipler in CoF to a 10000x multipler of all selling players in MG. Of course in MG it will be easier to find the item that you want given you can afford it
What I did and believe it worked out great was making my first character COF farm to rank 9 swap to MG and farmed to rank8 and then made a new character and just got all the gear for that alt. Also on COF you still can drop good items without the COF tag and use on other characters or use when swap from COF to MG the only thing is that you can’t sell it on AH.
Ive personally been doing cof the whole way and its awesome. From the get go ive felt like LE is much better as an ssf or group found game just because of how relatively easy it feels to get servicable gear and farm. Just like most things with this game it sits in a nice middle ground between poe and diablo where i dont think you really need trade at all in diablo but a game like poe it makes a huge difference just because of the sheer rarity and variability of some items. Thankfully they made it so you can swap around and try both over time. I just think for the long term or "hardcore" players cof will sin out in the end while mg will be better for casual guys who dont really want to farm super hard and still fully kit out their builds for the deeper end game stuff they want to do
I think trade is better if you are going to change specs a lot with your character as in going for entirely new damage types and abilities etc. Its easier to find decent items to make the new spec playable fast. If you are going to stay a single spec i think cof is better because you will get a lot of items over and over again.
COF is actually really good once you get to about rank 8. I have dropped some decent rare items such as orians eye, bastion of honour and the timeglass amulet. Also dropped shades amulet but it rolled really bad.
the items he showed mostly didnt have the cof icon next to them so did they even get influenced by cof or was it just normal luck drops
I just started playing LE on 1.0 release but I have 1000+ hours on POE. I feel like COF is better for now until EHG or a third party implements a convenient price checking tool. That would solve 99% of the problems I have with playing with MG.
What is a good base? An item with the implicits you want?
i need a shield throw build Dread! rolled a 1lp sigeons reprisal with 20% block chance. thinking the upper right branch of shield throw, to buff dmg off block chance
MG will be a lot better once servers are consistently stable. Most people can't get through the campaign to unlock it yet.
I didn't have the patience for the trade UI. Seemed pretty horrible and instantly switched to COF
I doesn’t matter which one you prefer. Both have their own merit. The question is: will you get the gear that you want? The answer is yes for both. Eventually.
It also matters how much fun/sense of achievement you have in the process of getting the gears you want though. I felt empty after buying my build from the market.
@@golfer4039 thats that just a matter of preference really. Its not like people who are going MG won’t sudden get a dopamine just cuz they already bought the gear. Its NOT just focused towards themselves now. But rather if they can sell the loot that they picked up. Its just a different kind of fun.
That’s the beauty of the faction system that EHG built. You get to play how you want the game to be. No right or wrong or what’s best.
@@The_Rum true true
Ok but what is the point of ALL those drops when you only need like 0.1% of them for your build(s)? In trade you can actually do something with those items other than let them rot in your stash
If you're only playing one character then sure, most of the loot is going to be useless. However, if you are flexible with what you want to play next, you can have lots of fun using the insane loot you're getting. For example, the other guy showed really cool build enabling gear.
Most drops in trade will be trash and not even picking up, because market will be full of all the easy to target farm or easy to drop 1LP unique and they end up worthiness. But the BiS or GG items will be so expansive that you will spend all your time farming gold trying to chase them.
I'm stuck right now. I went for the SSF faction and have been taking every prophecy that gives me helmets since then. Now I'm lvl 93 and keep finding the same 5 unique helmets, but of course not the one I'm looking for.
Only Decayed Skull, Snowblind, Boneclamor Barbute, Prismatic Gaze and Artors Legacy keep dropping.
Have you had a similar experience? I can't avoid thinking about a bug...
Well, I'll keep looking for the helmet I can't find.
Good luck!
Everybody gets multiple drops and the last one to drop is the one they need. You know why?
Once the one you need drops, you stop looking.
Maby it is a boss only drop? They cannot drop from prophecys
With over 150 hours on CoF, I ve found out for ENDGAME its really really REALLY bad. I went without drops for DAYS..... I switched over to merchants guild because I want to progress, something that just doesnt happen much anymore at some point during cof. Really sucks, wasted all my time on it and wasted gold aswell.
COF complete trash.
CoF all the way
I will be honest here as always. First nice video, second I don't know how MG players make a lot of gold to afford items and please don't tell me is by seeling stuff, cause omg I hated the UI on the market. A lot of players said I would make piles of gold on empowered Monos and I just can't see that, it seems slow as hell. Again, nice video!
Find items that are 70% to being good, craft them up to 90% good, sell. Easy.
@@blackomega34 yep but that way I have to sell items. As I said the UI is just terrible. What would be the best way to farm gold without seeling items? I never thought I would say that in my life, but after seeing how the Bazaar works I started to like a lot how PoE's trade system occurs and keep in mind I considered the worst before interacting with MG on LE.
@@phil2024x You must be overthinking things because selling shit is as easy as dragging the item over to the sell guy then typing in a gold amount you want for it.
@@blackomega34 Honestly, It's a terrible mess I can tell you. I tanked the game for 60 hours after the release. But that system was the last drop of the bucket. So many problems with this game not to mention it's easy as hell probably easier than Diablo 4. I've just deleted my char and uninstalled. Thanks for replying and trying to help though. I really appreciated. Hope you enjoy your journey :)
Yea the bazaar filter needs a little work
I feel like MG is in theory better for insane specific things with like 0,001% probability.
In that case you are most likely not rich enough to buy it (for most player). Cuz there is no resale for MG, once a item is purchased it is forever gone, the no resale part will inflat the very top end of the market till gold cap.
They for sure made Merchants Guild boring AF :D
I think we should be able to do both factions
You must not know how powerful CoF is then.
no