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His lead was his baby sisters husband, & he'd promised to keep him safe for her. So at that point he had only 2 options. Go home with his enemies blood on his sword, or never go home again.
No matter how many times you suddenly cut to black on your KIAs, it always makes me jump. You sure pissed off that YF-23 wingman. The way he followed the cripple AWACS down and even shot it some more with guns just to make sure made it seem like he was unleashing pure rage.
15:11 the cinematography of the YF=23chasing down the AWACS, and then diving after it after the missle hit, culminating in full-on Terminator mode 20mm Vulcan sawing off both wings in the vertical dive - just beautiful!
My uncle worked on the YF-23 Blackwidow II and told me that the YF-23 was actually on par with maneuverability due to the massive tail planes. He said they never really got into testing its maneuverability too much so it was told that it was less maneuverable l. Thought that I’d like to share that
This is where the 23 really failed same as the x32. They weren't at the same level of testing as the 22 and 35 and it hurt their image in the competition even if the end product would have been great.
F-22 is only more maneuverable at extreme low speed. Just to put it in comparison, the ruddervators of the F-23 is as big as many aircraft's main wings, think F-5 size
my uncle worked on the su-57 and told me that the stealth of the su-57 was on par thanks to radar blockers. He said the press never really checked his RCS. Thought I'd like to share this
Idk why there's anything to dodge in the first place. I was under the impression that missiles at hypersonic speeds have trouble receiving guidance due to plasma formation.
@@hanrockabrand95at those kinda ranges they would be tracking themselves. No need for any guidance even if so. Also at such short range the missile wouldn’t have reached hypersonic speed yet either.
If I was the "Widow lead". I would have played it like the scenario in Red Storm Rising Frisbees of Dreamland. Hug the Earth and pop up at the last minute to smoke the AWACS.
Lol "turned me into a lawn dart" that's funny as man. Ended up being 3 lawn darts. That last seen of the YF-23 chasing down your AWACS was insane man, it was like an eagle hunting a bird 15 times it's size, and man did you piss him off, he shot that shit to hell and back all the way down just to prove a point. Bloody sick video champ.
The YF-23 has stayed top secret for so many years that very few have ever seen the aircraft or know anything about it. I worked on the Northrop crew that built the first F18 Prototypes in the Hawthorne plant back in the late 70s. In the later 80s a few of those guys had went over to the YF23 program, and remember one of them saying long hours and over time from hell. Said he would probably be divorced over it. Those were the days like no others.
At the National USAF Museum near Dayton Ohio they have the YF-23 Gray Ghost on display in the 4th hangar. It's very awesome, I highly recommend going out there to see it.
Aren't they both on public display? I think they left them out for years and they had birds nests and stuff in them lol. So bizarre to think about - tech that just about every country would do ANYTHING for, even today - and nearly four decades later, they're literally gathering dust in the US.
If you want to see one up close and real, the Gray Ghost is at the Western Museum of Flight at Torrance Airport in Torrance Ca. You can actually touch it
For clarification about the, “seeing stealth”. China can also see stealth. However that doesn’t mean they can get a lock. “Stealth” isn’t being invisible. It’s about preventing detection and a lock on long enough to do the mission. Most stealth aircraft are trackable to low frequency radar. But not trackable for high frequency. Which gives the radar fidelity required for a good lock. So low frequency radar will give you the notification that there’s something there. But you won’t see it for targeting.
Finally someone who says it!! Personally I think it is even more horrible, imagine knowing that there is someone out there who wants to kill you bu you literally can't do anything to shoot him down, that must be very demoralizing
Adding on to this, using the bands that can see stealth will mean you see damn near everything else out there and get a massively cluttered radar picture filled with things like birds clouds and other unhelpful returns
@@iron_talon THIS, people who don't understand radar don't understand why being "able to see stealth" isn't really being able to see stealth. It's not like you see a marble sized track flying at 500+ knots or a pigeon doing something similar. radar tracking software takes stuff like that and discards it as "fruit" so you don't even see it. Tuning a radar to be so sensitive that it can actually "see" a VLO plane is like telling someone to look at a picture but with your eyes unfocused , it's in there somewhere but you're seeing everything as a giant blurred smudge which isn't helpful. It's why IR tracking modules are supposed to help at closer ranges, but scanning the sky with one of those is like doing it with a telescope and having no guidance on where you should be looking
The hard cut to "Killed in Action" always makes me laugh. You get killed in the most hilarious moments of saying or doing something. It's comedic timing that can't be pre-planned. It's natural, it's organic, it's gut-bustingly hilarious, a final comedic breaking of the tension at the end of a nail-biting dogfight.
Thing is , the YF23 was/is considered MORE stealthy then the 22 and if Felons have big problems with a 22 then a 23 should absolutely destroy a Felon. 🤷🏽
Not as weird as the fact that they chose not to fire at the Felons for so long. Absolutely 0 reason a Felon with external munitions should have first kill opportunity. 200km vs. 160km missile range doesn't mean much when the Felon shouldn't be aware of the the YF-23 until it detects the incoming AMRAAM.
Love the menacing dramatic music in the background 😜. Also, the way the video cuts as soon as you're hit. Makes me jump every time. But its good to see you're not totally invisible, keeping it real 🫡.
Hey man. Just wanted to comment that I love your decision to bring in the ending music drop right in the middle of the fight. Really built up suspense and made things really exciting
You know, after you killed the YF-23 leader, the wingman went: "When the Doom music starts playing." Would have been a fitting backdrop for the rest of the video.
@gld1010 That was my thought. Just looking at it is enough to conclude that it was leagues ahead of everything else at the time, and even to this day. Especially with the F22 being so publicly known, it would make sense for them to use that as a smokescreen while the YF-23 went on to become the top secret fighter that was seemingly just a myth.
Nice vid!! Great cinematography! USAF: Well done son. You have shot down the only operational and overhyped Russian 4.5 Gen jets, the SU-57. But in a YF-23 it shouldn't be a challenge to you to do so. Further, after killing the A-50, Russia has no AWACS assets left. The Ukrainians have killed the others. Congratulstions my young 1st Lt! RuAF: Dear Mrs. GS, we are sorry to inform you that your husband has been killed, despite flying one of our only 2 flyable SU-57 jets, which are the best Russia can offer. However, I ensure you that he will be remembered as a hero. Therefore, please find enclosed as compensation two (2!) bags of potatoes and a bag of carrots!
Imagine if the YF-23 actually went into full production and the F-23 with modern day upgrades was born… How scary would it have been to fight against such an instrument of destruction that’s even more stealthier than the Raptor… Terrifying
I remember the 22/23 competition and was rooting for the 23 before the contract was awarded. Initially frustrated at 23 leader seemingly loitering before being hit but as an admitted fanboy, was satisfied with the video)).
I feel like the 23 could possibly be a candidate to be a 6th gen aircraft, different materials and even better radar absorption capabilities could still render it as a very capable platform in the future
Um... who flew for your opposition? (Or are they just that stealthy? 😆) As for Widow Wingman: "He poured out all his rage and hate upon the whale's white hump."
Fun fact! Erich Hartmann(Fighter Ace with Most confirmed Kills) switches aircraft so that the enemy pilots wont fly away which happens when they see his Black nosed 109. Also you celebrated abit too early when you downed the flight lead
It seems that's very beneficial to guide those missiles as long as possible when you are dealing with a stealth opponent as a missile radar is not nearly as sensitive as a radar on a jet.
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And you just learned why you don't touch AMERICA'S anything. 3 - 1.
How about the other way? Or, Israeli F-15s vs Iranian F-4s?
Ah...a couple of rotisserie Felons and their AWACS.
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
Day 38 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21
The YF-23 Wingman was out for blood at the end.
Was it ever! Damn, lost leader and turned into Thanos with the "fine, I'll do it myself". Lol
He went “MUHHUHUHAHAHAAA”👹
“Joke’s on you, flight lead was the only one who cared about the Geneva suggestions”
His lead was his baby sisters husband, & he'd promised to keep him safe for her.
So at that point he had only 2 options. Go home with his enemies blood on his sword, or never go home again.
He went pitbull
No matter how many times you suddenly cut to black on your KIAs, it always makes me jump. You sure pissed off that YF-23 wingman. The way he followed the cripple AWACS down and even shot it some more with guns just to make sure made it seem like he was unleashing pure rage.
Got me good too, lol.
He just wanted to commit murder at this pointy, he wasn't just taking down the AWACS, he wanted anyone in it to die! Pure rage.
@@rawpraisemurder is a legal concept. No warrior was ever accused of killing someone too much. Rage, yes, but not murder.
15:11 the cinematography of the YF=23chasing down the AWACS, and then diving after it after the missle hit, culminating in full-on Terminator mode 20mm Vulcan sawing off both wings in the vertical dive - just beautiful!
Just rewatched, so good.
Spoiler alert: YF-23 wingman to base: "Boutta commit three felonies. Over."
two of them being felonceptions
@@revolverswitch😂😂😂😂
@@revolverswitchhahah
"Don't worry, I'm Canadian"
My uncle worked on the YF-23 Blackwidow II and told me that the YF-23 was actually on par with maneuverability due to the massive tail planes. He said they never really got into testing its maneuverability too much so it was told that it was less maneuverable l. Thought that I’d like to share that
This is where the 23 really failed same as the x32. They weren't at the same level of testing as the 22 and 35 and it hurt their image in the competition even if the end product would have been great.
F-22 is only more maneuverable at extreme low speed. Just to put it in comparison, the ruddervators of the F-23 is as big as many aircraft's main wings, think F-5 size
@@Shadowboost Aaaahhh! He said it! "Ruddervators"!!! LMAO
Lol. I know that's what they're called. Still makes me laugh tho.
my uncle worked on the su-57 and told me that the stealth of the su-57 was on par thanks to radar blockers. He said the press never really checked his RCS. Thought I'd like to share this
@@95Molot is this a joke or what?? My uncle worked on it and a lot of times we wouldn’t see him. For a couple of days due to him working on the YF-23
The YF23 wingman took things real personal.
The way that the YF-23 Wingman dodged R-77-1 at the end was absolutely crazy !!!
Mislile simply lost track
Stealth… REAL stealth, has its advantages.
@@mirjanaandic3113Yea the YF-23 did almost nothing to dodge a
Idk why there's anything to dodge in the first place. I was under the impression that missiles at hypersonic speeds have trouble receiving guidance due to plasma formation.
@@hanrockabrand95at those kinda ranges they would be tracking themselves. No need for any guidance even if so.
Also at such short range the missile wouldn’t have reached hypersonic speed yet either.
Seeing the YF-23 approaching the AWACS from behing was a beautiful and scary sight
Indeed... and I was cheering for it, but I was still scared!:D
YF-23 wingman: hold my beer
Well said
Second YF-23 went full Mobius 1 on y’all 💀
Ribbon fighter out of retirement again
MorB
Did someone say morb?
@@RookFox AWACS Sky Eye: >
Lol. That YF-23 wingman was MILDLY upset! 😅
To put it mildly.
If I was the "Widow lead". I would have played it like the scenario in Red Storm Rising Frisbees of Dreamland. Hug the Earth and pop up at the last minute to smoke the AWACS.
Loved that book.
One common line among VLO pilots in those books: "I hope this stealth shit works."
Just finished that via Audio for the first time on Friday. Read it multiple times since got it in 90. Good timing :-)
Lol "turned me into a lawn dart" that's funny as man. Ended up being 3 lawn darts. That last seen of the YF-23 chasing down your AWACS was insane man, it was like an eagle hunting a bird 15 times it's size, and man did you piss him off, he shot that shit to hell and back all the way down just to prove a point. Bloody sick video champ.
Sawing the wings off that AWACS with 20mm was crazy amazing looking! :D
@@angelarch5352 bloody oath champ.
The YF-23 has stayed top secret for so many years that very few have ever seen the aircraft or know anything about it. I worked on the Northrop crew that built the first F18 Prototypes in the Hawthorne plant back in the late 70s. In the later 80s a few of those guys had went over to the YF23 program, and remember one of them saying long hours and over time from hell. Said he would probably be divorced over it. Those were the days like no others.
At the National USAF Museum near Dayton Ohio they have the YF-23 Gray Ghost on display in the 4th hangar. It's very awesome, I highly recommend going out there to see it.
Aren't they both on public display? I think they left them out for years and they had birds nests and stuff in them lol. So bizarre to think about - tech that just about every country would do ANYTHING for, even today - and nearly four decades later, they're literally gathering dust in the US.
The view of the yf23 coming up from behind the AWACS when you see the engines. They look like burning red eyeballs of rage.
Great video GS. THANK YOU
“Alright, he seems upset.”
The way that Black Widow persecuted the bandits, that really seems like an understatement. 😂
I hope one day the classified specs of the YF23 get declassified so we can have an even better modeling ❤
maybe when 7th gens come out lol
Considering they probably used similar tech in the new b-21 raider, I wouldn't get my hopes up on them revealing its secrets anytime soon
@@killerblingxbl7th gen will probably have teleportation and invisibility or something
@@KlausSchwab45 Or be a prop plane depending on how diplomatic relations work out in the next few decades. 😅
If you want to see one up close and real, the Gray Ghost is at the Western Museum of Flight at Torrance Airport in Torrance Ca. You can actually touch it
12:21 I get jumpscared every time by these sudden splashes with that loud bang sound :(
same, I literally jumped 😭
"He seems upset." A very apt observation.
When the YF-23 lead died. Camera turns to YF-23 wingman "To be continued" music plays.
Temper temper Mr. Black Widow. He was pissed. Great video as always! The YF-23 is one of my most favorite jets of all time.
Hey, this will be a fun one.
Just wondering, can we see a Su-47 vs a Su-57?
Man that second YF-23 had something unleashed when you killed his wingman. Dude just went full demon mode on you guys.
For clarification about the, “seeing stealth”. China can also see stealth. However that doesn’t mean they can get a lock. “Stealth” isn’t being invisible. It’s about preventing detection and a lock on long enough to do the mission. Most stealth aircraft are trackable to low frequency radar. But not trackable for high frequency. Which gives the radar fidelity required for a good lock. So low frequency radar will give you the notification that there’s something there. But you won’t see it for targeting.
Finally someone who says it!! Personally I think it is even more horrible, imagine knowing that there is someone out there who wants to kill you bu you literally can't do anything to shoot him down, that must be very demoralizing
Adding on to this, using the bands that can see stealth will mean you see damn near everything else out there and get a massively cluttered radar picture filled with things like birds clouds and other unhelpful returns
@@iron_talon THIS, people who don't understand radar don't understand why being "able to see stealth" isn't really being able to see stealth. It's not like you see a marble sized track flying at 500+ knots or a pigeon doing something similar. radar tracking software takes stuff like that and discards it as "fruit" so you don't even see it. Tuning a radar to be so sensitive that it can actually "see" a VLO plane is like telling someone to look at a picture but with your eyes unfocused , it's in there somewhere but you're seeing everything as a giant blurred smudge which isn't helpful. It's why IR tracking modules are supposed to help at closer ranges, but scanning the sky with one of those is like doing it with a telescope and having no guidance on where you should be looking
The hard cut to "Killed in Action" always makes me laugh. You get killed in the most hilarious moments of saying or doing something. It's comedic timing that can't be pre-planned. It's natural, it's organic, it's gut-bustingly hilarious, a final comedic breaking of the tension at the end of a nail-biting dogfight.
Must have been so frustrating for the Felon wingman!
Looked like he could see the YF-23 but all his missiles couldn't
😫😂
That was Gold😂😭
That wingman's missile was instructed to take you out personally, didn't even touch your 57.
The Yf-23 wingman thought you killed his brother or something. He’ll be an ace in no time, that is, if he doesn’t kill everything in his wake!
That was quite the sendoff for the YF-23. WE NEED YOU IN THE YF-23. I wanna see that cockpit!!
If I had to guess, he hasn't flown it himself yet because the cockpit might not be fully modeled yet but idk
It doesn't have its own cockpit and uses the one of the f15C instead
If they kept it real, it'll look like an F-15 cockpit.
That two-ship of YF-23's streaking across the sky is a beautiful thing.
That YF-23 is an evil looking bird. 😮
search f35 art - f35e and f35f
Definitely appreciate the roll rate capability of an uncontrolled felon.
The fact the stealth cut off the missile guidances at that close of a range is WILD
I'd like to see you do this mission flying the black widow. I like when you fly one jet and then switch to the jet you just fought.
YF-23 vs Su-47 dogfight?
Wouldn't be much, the 23 isn't a dogfighter.
YES!
@@MeerkatADV your the first person to say the yf23 isn't a dogfighter, everyone else always says the 23 would smoke the 47
I agree
X-29 vs SU-47
the battlefield theme will never get old
Neither will the Sicario sounds at the beginning
Thanks for more Su-57 content
Thing is , the YF23 was/is considered MORE stealthy then the 22 and if Felons have big problems with a 22 then a 23 should absolutely destroy a Felon. 🤷🏽
THEY SHOULD MAKE A BATCH OF YF- 23. MAYBEE 18 AND TELL NO ONE , SPECIAL BASES SPECIAL USE☆☆☆☆☆☆
Stealth in the cons? Who was flying the 23s, Forrest Gump?
Well it worked in the end..😂
Maybe, Gump was one lucky SOB that always seemed to come out on top...
I see it as more of a flex. "Here I am. Now do something about it."
Not as weird as the fact that they chose not to fire at the Felons for so long. Absolutely 0 reason a Felon with external munitions should have first kill opportunity. 200km vs. 160km missile range doesn't mean much when the Felon shouldn't be aware of the the YF-23 until it detects the incoming AMRAAM.
Love the menacing dramatic music in the background 😜. Also, the way the video cuts as soon as you're hit. Makes me jump every time. But its good to see you're not totally invisible, keeping it real 🫡.
Hey man. Just wanted to comment that I love your decision to bring in the ending music drop right in the middle of the fight. Really built up suspense and made things really exciting
Hell has no fury like a Black Widow scorned.
You know, after you killed the YF-23 leader, the wingman went: "When the Doom music starts playing." Would have been a fitting backdrop for the rest of the video.
I still think we should have gone with the YF-23 instead of the F-22.
Both and kept them active.
At the time, I felt that the YF-23 turned into a black project. I still feel that way today.
@@Cronus_1 NGAD tech?
@gld1010 That was my thought. Just looking at it is enough to conclude that it was leagues ahead of everything else at the time, and even to this day. Especially with the F22 being so publicly known, it would make sense for them to use that as a smokescreen while the YF-23 went on to become the top secret fighter that was seemingly just a myth.
NGAD before NGAD.
GS: "I'll push back into him"
Amraam: " Say less."
3:30 - that iconic background music and menacing noise.... definition of GS.
These vids are amazing- I'm addicted to the technical commentary.
Nothing personal but I was rooting for YF-23. The wingman was like "I'm going to blow this SOB out of the sky.
BANG!
Please more YF-23 engagement!!!! Thanks, I really enjoyed this.
14:02 Say what you will about the Felon, but it spirals really nicely when it gets shot down.
Nice vid!! Great cinematography!
USAF: Well done son. You have shot down the only operational and overhyped Russian 4.5 Gen jets, the SU-57. But in a YF-23 it shouldn't be a challenge to you to do so. Further, after killing the A-50, Russia has no AWACS assets left. The Ukrainians have killed the others. Congratulstions my young 1st Lt!
RuAF: Dear Mrs. GS, we are sorry to inform you that your husband has been killed, despite flying one of our only 2 flyable SU-57 jets, which are the best Russia can offer. However, I ensure you that he will be remembered as a hero. Therefore, please find enclosed as compensation two (2!) bags of potatoes and a bag of carrots!
"I'm a leaf on the wind" -YF23 Wingman probably.
My best friend from High Schools Dad, worked at Northrop for 4 decades.
We had significant conversations. I miss him. Thank you Mr. R.
Great seeing the YF-23 in action instead of just films from flight test!
su47 vs 57?
100% agree!!
Imagine if the YF-23 actually went into full production and the F-23 with modern day upgrades was born… How scary would it have been to fight against such an instrument of destruction that’s even more stealthier than the Raptor… Terrifying
Never been so happy to see you KIA lol. Gotta restore the honor of the F-23....
While I'm thankful for another YF-23 video, I'm also really looking forward to you flying it.
The Su-57 wingman AND GS really did the "i was shot down in Ace Combat 7" maneuver 🗿💀
That yf23 black widow wingman was aggressive as f, the dodge and overall flying
5:57 that fox 3 shot is wicked... you can feel the kick 😮
Black Widow wingman got the blood rage like the Captain in 300.
14:25 This bird looks angry 😡
Nah bro this setup how half those missiles didn’t even track at the end from the felon wingman when fighting the widow wingman.
That wingman went full Micheal Jordan and said: "then I took it personally!"
Coincidentally, the readiness of SU-57 is about the same as the F-23.
I don’t even play DCS, but I love these videos because I’m a military aviation nerd.
I LOVE the increased use of cinematics.
Great content as always
"Remember, no Russian" -YF-23 wingman
"We can finally track your F-22!"
"Did you see his twin brother?"
I remember the 22/23 competition and was rooting for the 23 before the contract was awarded. Initially frustrated at 23 leader seemingly loitering before being hit but as an admitted fanboy, was satisfied with the video)).
You definitely pissed off the second YF 23. Awesome fight
Was robin olds flying that second blackwidow😂
Absolute savage
YESSS - YF 23 not only shot all down but at the end used its missiles and guns to ensure death.
I feel like the 23 could possibly be a candidate to be a 6th gen aircraft, different materials and even better radar absorption capabilities could still render it as a very capable platform in the future
15:15 The "THIS IS FOR MY COMMANDER!" moment of that Wingman YF-23.
Um... who flew for your opposition? (Or are they just that stealthy? 😆)
As for Widow Wingman: "He poured out all his rage and hate upon the whale's white hump."
Thank you man I was just waiting for a new video before go to bed 🔥
Is it just me or the Felon is one big juicy target for the AMRAAM?
Just you
He turned you into an Earth Dart. That's what the AF crews guys called us in the 82nd abn.
YF-23 wingman: ...and I took that personally.
That Black Widow stood on business.🕷️
Goddamn the YF-23 is such an incredibly good looking plane
Can't wait to see you pilot the black widow
I mean, that IS what you get for choosing to fly an enemy aircraft. LOL
I think the yf-23 is more terrifying than the Raptor when it's stalking you. Dude went god mode on you guys. We must see him again!
To me the beautiful YF-23 could pass as looking like a 6th gen fighter. That design is just spectacular and futuristic.
I worked on the YF-23 program what an amazing aircraft!
I think you may have pissed him off a little bit bro 😂😂
The YF23 is quite an aircraft!!👍👍
Fun fact! Erich Hartmann(Fighter Ace with Most confirmed Kills) switches aircraft so that the enemy pilots wont fly away which happens when they see his Black nosed 109.
Also you celebrated abit too early when you downed the flight lead
The fact a yf23 1v2 against GSW and won is a testament of it's prowess
LOVE that you showed that entire mission thru! Thanks for that!
It seems that's very beneficial to guide those missiles as long as possible when you are dealing with a stealth opponent as a missile radar is not nearly as sensitive as a radar on a jet.
YF-23 is such a cool looking fighter to this day. Still needs to be produced and refined.
So the wingman took that personally
Bro, thank you so much. I left this request around 1:30 am!
Good kill on the 23! Such a good video as always. Thanks GS!
Hah, Sukhoi says: "Just as the mighty Ural rules at Turret Toss for tanks, we now dominate at Boom Jarts!"