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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  8 місяців тому +20

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    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @numberyellow
      @numberyellow 8 місяців тому

      NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
      SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
      SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
      SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
      SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

    • @gorky113kam
      @gorky113kam 8 місяців тому

      Can you set russian speech informant and hud on ru planes? It will be more authentic

    • @SilentGloves
      @SilentGloves 8 місяців тому +1

      Every time you talk about GLOC, I think to myself "I'd really like to see GS get a ride along with some demo squadron." If you get to a million subs, I bet that's something that could happen! Would you do it?

    • @cripticdestiny
      @cripticdestiny 8 місяців тому +1

      FELON VS BLACKWIDOW

    • @allaltitudeproductions
      @allaltitudeproductions 8 місяців тому

      Day 84 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21

  • @benrichey2593
    @benrichey2593 8 місяців тому +619

    6:22 “Too close for guns, switching to bayonets”

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 8 місяців тому +16

      Lol. You win the internet today. 🎉

    • @jaggar28
      @jaggar28 8 місяців тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @artyomgunard4491
      @artyomgunard4491 8 місяців тому +8

      Belkans Witchcraft...

    • @wilemelliott
      @wilemelliott 8 місяців тому +2

      This isn't Macross Plus, we didn't put bayonets on the frakking gunpods!

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 8 місяців тому +6

      @@wilemelliott Always that one guy, without a sense of humour or an imagination. ..

  • @bridgecross
    @bridgecross 8 місяців тому +408

    That canopy-to-canopy pass actually made me gasp.

    • @laurentitolledo1838
      @laurentitolledo1838 8 місяців тому +9

      stuff for top gun maneuvers

    • @Slipknotfanatic89
      @Slipknotfanatic89 8 місяців тому +4

      I unintentionally gasped and tensed up! That was startling haha

    • @safn1949
      @safn1949 8 місяців тому +5

      I thought they were going to collide for sure.

    • @alstaxi2002
      @alstaxi2002 8 місяців тому +4

      YF-23 giving the bird or keeping up relations

  • @kevint1911
    @kevint1911 8 місяців тому +188

    The near ground strike in the first round followed by the almost mid air collision on the second round…..pushing the envelope and super intense!

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 8 місяців тому +1

      The golden goose of aviation videos this week. Thanks, GS.

  • @vk45de54
    @vk45de54 8 місяців тому +83

    That blk widow driver is nuts. 3:16, he’s basically on the ground and still shooting. Id just be trying to survive at that point.

  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi 8 місяців тому +240

    Every time I see it, all I can think is; it is criminal the YF-23 didn't go to serial production.

    • @DaftDrunk24
      @DaftDrunk24 8 місяців тому +25

      Maybe the Navy's NGAD

    • @lewiemotorsports3616
      @lewiemotorsports3616 8 місяців тому +6

      Agreed.

    • @XiaOmegaX
      @XiaOmegaX 8 місяців тому +21

      Hell even just a squadron of them, and a few extras for air shows and show of force demos.

    • @PhillipChalabi
      @PhillipChalabi 8 місяців тому +13

      @@XiaOmegaX I think that should have been what happened to the F-22 imo. Its sexy too, but YF-23 looks like alien technology.

    • @PhillipChalabi
      @PhillipChalabi 8 місяців тому +6

      @@1lostinspace I know the reason, but I still hate it 🤣

  • @theodorladar
    @theodorladar 8 місяців тому +198

    Every time I see this from the SU-47 perspective, I'm like "someone answer the god damn phone!"

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 8 місяців тому +7

      lol!
      i wish he'd lower it a bit in comparison to his voice 😁

    • @MrAntotheninja
      @MrAntotheninja 8 місяців тому +4

      Does the shukois actually have warning sound like that?

    • @DonDolbos
      @DonDolbos 8 місяців тому

      🤣 you made my day

    • @chaos_2757
      @chaos_2757 4 місяці тому

      LOL I thought I was the only one thinking that 😂

  • @timgilbert460
    @timgilbert460 8 місяців тому +57

    "Hydraulics failure"
    GS "I NEED THAT"

  • @lynx1715
    @lynx1715 8 місяців тому +207

    Now I'm convinced that the YF-23 has some sort of head-targeting system

    • @KeshikS2C
      @KeshikS2C 8 місяців тому +24

      It's the John Wick of fighter jets.

    • @robjohnson5872
      @robjohnson5872 8 місяців тому +6

      I won't forget that sound anytime soon.

    • @tuunaes
      @tuunaes 8 місяців тому +3

      Then you haven't watched enough of older videos of GS...

    • @chribm
      @chribm 8 місяців тому +5

      That splat sound is just about enough to make you puke.

    • @zedalba
      @zedalba 8 місяців тому +2

      Any hit from 20mm might as well be a head shot.

  • @ImWithTeamTrinity
    @ImWithTeamTrinity 8 місяців тому +47

    YF-23 winning against a Su-47 is a great demonstration of its dogfighting abilities.

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 8 місяців тому +16

      Toxic’s ability to compete with GS is just very impressive. Now what would have happened if Toxic was in the thrust verctoring f22 against GS in su-47.

  • @411DL
    @411DL 8 місяців тому +38

    "Thank You to Toxic for flying". Couldn't agree more.

  • @MarcoAspaas
    @MarcoAspaas 8 місяців тому +60

    The YF-23 reminds me of those squirrel suits that base-jumpers wear, it is cool looking

  • @ericx777
    @ericx777 8 місяців тому +54

    That first engagement... Ole Spider gonna have to go to base and explain why there was a tumbleweed in his intake! Damn, that was crazy!
    The second round... if y'all got any closer, you would need to mount bayonets!

  • @bkbaughn
    @bkbaughn 8 місяців тому +9

    That Toxic is a heck of a DCS Pilot!

  • @tuunaes
    @tuunaes 8 місяців тому +21

    One of the issues in forward swept wing is it being very demanding on wing strength:
    Lifting force tries to bend/twist wing in a way which increases angle of attack and hence lift in wingtip, which again increases force bending/twisting wing.
    And the higher the speed, the stronger the effect.

    • @beverlychmelik5504
      @beverlychmelik5504 8 місяців тому +3

      Also having the wing torsionaly stiffer to prevent tip stall

  • @Richard-do9xt
    @Richard-do9xt 8 місяців тому +31

    Put a string on the black widow and call it a kite it seems to just float around effortlessly at any speed

  • @JC130676
    @JC130676 8 місяців тому +11

    8:59 that touch of panic while saying: "Oh he's back there!" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Snowcen
    @Snowcen 8 місяців тому +19

    Su 47 my beloved. It was very cool seeing these 2 go at it.

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 8 місяців тому +20

    Gotta love the falling leaf style of a 5th gen dogfight.

  • @philminotti6870
    @philminotti6870 8 місяців тому +15

    Man, those hero shots of the YF-23 at the end were epic. That aircraft is beyond gorgeous.

  • @vipondiu
    @vipondiu 8 місяців тому +14

    5:44 My two favorite What-ifs high-fiveing one another! Not something you see everyday!

  • @gregjones4705
    @gregjones4705 8 місяців тому +11

    This is officially the most ace combat dcs video

  • @archienov
    @archienov 8 місяців тому +316

    For any anime enthusiasts here, this is basically like the YF-19 vs YF-21 from Macross Plus as I think the Su-47 and YF-23 are the closest real world planes to those 2 in terms of body shape.

    • @Guy777man
      @Guy777man 8 місяців тому +1

      Zoom zoom

    • @buscandoaelisa
      @buscandoaelisa 8 місяців тому +26

      Macross Plus FTW

    • @Malice_doll
      @Malice_doll 8 місяців тому +26

      They’re fighting in a desert so might as well be the New Edward’s flight center

    • @michaelhilburn
      @michaelhilburn 8 місяців тому +11

      Ew anime

    • @NeoTrunks7
      @NeoTrunks7 8 місяців тому +14

      I always thought the Grumman X-29 may have also had some influence. It was a NASA test aircraft but had the forward swept wings.
      The YF-21 real life counterpart is the YF-23. Can’t help but hear Sharon Apple singing when I see it. Great video.

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 8 місяців тому +97

    I think it's still a shame the Air Force went for the F22 instead of the F23: even better stealth, more range and higher super cruise speed.
    And it's quite the dogfighter as well.

    • @ViperFox_
      @ViperFox_ 8 місяців тому +27

      Ive been pissed about this for years

    • @RkHy
      @RkHy 8 місяців тому +38

      YF-23 did have some quite crippling flaws such as the inlet ducts slightly exposing the compressor blades at a certain lower angle, which would completely ruin stealth at that certain angle. Along with reliability issues and the fact that the canopy would crack when reaching higher speeds which is why they never flew it past Mach 1.85

    • @DannyGatton94
      @DannyGatton94 8 місяців тому +13

      Can’t blame them for choosing the Raptor, but in a more ideal scenario they should have chosen both

    • @TranceParadise
      @TranceParadise 8 місяців тому +13

      At the time Northtrop won B-2 program. Lockheed was a comfortable choice not to give too much credit to one company that could fail in delivery of 2 most important planes in Air Force history.

    • @williamsbenavides7077
      @williamsbenavides7077 8 місяців тому

      Lo único malo que hizo esa fuerza aérea fue desarrollar el f35

  • @krishanmiller7706
    @krishanmiller7706 8 місяців тому +11

    Gray YF-23 is the Spider and the black one is the Gray Ghost. On the inside of the front landing gear panel on the black YF-23 in the National Museum of the USAF it says Gray Ghost.

  • @cozybeans
    @cozybeans 8 місяців тому +1

    Most athletic and cinematic dogfighting I've seen in a while. It's like these birds were meant to fly in the same skies

  • @badgermead8228
    @badgermead8228 7 місяців тому +1

    love listening to you talk through position placement throughout the fight its really good, I enjoy those parts, good for learning....there's so much more to dogfighting than people realise

  • @fairwarning007
    @fairwarning007 4 місяці тому

    5:57 one of the most badass moments I’ve seen on this channel. Bravo!

  • @Mav09
    @Mav09 8 місяців тому +10

    I want to quickly thank you GS for always putting out amazing videos. Thanks to you I am going to pursue my dream of becoming a Air Force fighter pilot. I love your channel and all your videos. Please keep up the good work and make more content on the F-35!

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  8 місяців тому +5

      Thank you for watching and best of luck with your dreams. I’m sure you can do it if you set your mind to it.

    • @Mav09
      @Mav09 8 місяців тому

      @@GrowlingSidewinder thank you so much! Can you please make more videos of the F-35 and fly it?

  • @DB-be9wy
    @DB-be9wy 8 місяців тому +5

    Have to admit the guy he was flying against was amazing. I’d like to see them flying the same aircraft and go at it.

  • @entropy11
    @entropy11 8 місяців тому +6

    Toxic really bringing the fight today. popped you after chasing to like 2 feet off the ground, and round 3 just needed you to lose track of him for 3 seconds to get total advantage.

  • @macross25
    @macross25 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for this one GS!! In my warped Macross mind, now we have the YF-19 vs. the YF-21.

  • @victorbjorn2109
    @victorbjorn2109 3 місяці тому +1

    JFYI SU-47 was an experimental aircraft. Sukhoi tested and demonstrated its technologies to potential buyers.
    Thanks for this Dubai Air Show!

  • @narcissus79
    @narcissus79 8 місяців тому +2

    5:59 feels like a "Because we were inverted.." moment

  • @reptarcar
    @reptarcar 2 місяці тому

    4:05 holy shit that merge was awesome, beautiful image of the YF23 too

  • @Midcon77
    @Midcon77 8 місяців тому +7

    The USAF should have bought both of these airframes. Make the -23 a deep interdictor with it's stealth and the -22 as the escort. What a killer combo! I'd love to see a strike mission setup with like a pair of 22s, a pair of 23s, going after an HVT in Russia with state-of-the-art defenses. That'd be sweet!

  • @sana-cm7oc
    @sana-cm7oc 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Great job, Toxic. Super scary good flying, GS.

  • @benvaughn2367
    @benvaughn2367 8 місяців тому +1

    Great Video. Two of the coolest looking planes ever. If I saw a movie that posited that this is what fighters would look like in 50 years I'd have no problem with it. Nice work GS!

  • @MGAFFY
    @MGAFFY 8 місяців тому +11

    A couple days or weeks ago over Eglin Airforce Base there was a photo taken of a diamond shaped airplane that looks really similar to the YF-23 (though obviously different). Although in the picture it can be seen with only a single afterburning engine. It was said to have been the size of a C-130 but slender like a B-21 Raider. Very very curious as to what it was.

    • @DaftDrunk24
      @DaftDrunk24 8 місяців тому +1

      I was just there 2 weeks ago. Wish I had seen it 😫

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 8 місяців тому +1

      link?

  • @samcy9551
    @samcy9551 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow.... Toxic flies really well. The 1st Kill by Toxic @ 3:16: Gs was like "trying not to hit the ground here." On the other hand, Toxic was literally skiing on the ground gunning him down.

  • @productNine
    @productNine 8 місяців тому +3

    You guys are making a good case for fighter jets having swords.

  • @speedfiend74
    @speedfiend74 8 місяців тому +5

    The YF23 reminds me of a flying squirrel.

    • @tuunaes
      @tuunaes 8 місяців тому +1

      Well, as whole it's mostly big lifting body.
      Real wing loading must have been quite small.

  • @Jack-ut7hc
    @Jack-ut7hc 8 місяців тому +17

    Please can we see YOU in the YF23? I love your content man ❤

  • @mikesdd07
    @mikesdd07 8 місяців тому +5

    GS - It seems like Toxic might have your number in a one circle. It might help that he's not explaining the fight while he fights it, but he sure seems to get his share of kills.

  • @nuh7159
    @nuh7159 8 місяців тому +1

    That flat scissor canopy to canopy, made my jaw hit the floor!

  • @precise1117
    @precise1117 8 місяців тому +3

    Imagine a Real Air Force Pilot doing these videos like vlogs and being this calm lmao

  • @kencrow1060
    @kencrow1060 8 місяців тому +49

    Probably the only time I'm happy when GS did not win - I just can't cheer against the YF-23 - it's just a gorgeous piece of alien technology. Thanks for an amazing video!!

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 8 місяців тому +1

      Question is; what is Gen6 gonna bring us ? I'm thinking missile tech is going to be so advanced that BVR will never see a merge.

    • @Elthenar
      @Elthenar 4 місяці тому +1

      The YF-23 is fairly close to what is expected out of a 6th gen. 6th gen fighters are going to have a greater focus on stealth, speed and range over agility.

  • @bitman_agent67
    @bitman_agent67 8 місяців тому +1

    "Aircraft is pretty unrespo..." Looks like we need some more crisply folded flags. Great content as always. GS Rocks!!!

  • @codyhagan7511
    @codyhagan7511 8 місяців тому

    The both of you are phenomenal pilots. I could watch you two dogfight all day.

  • @isaac77655
    @isaac77655 8 місяців тому +1

    Yay 😁! Thanks so much GS! I'vr bren asking for this for so long.

  • @pahtar7189
    @pahtar7189 8 місяців тому +6

    I wish the US had bought the F-23 in the light stealth bomber roll to take advantage of its superior stealth and speed.
    That would leave air dominance to the F-22, something it excels at.

  • @unskilledpanda5
    @unskilledpanda5 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for trying what I suggested. Absolutely amazing to see the two aircraft get so close.

  • @carlobinda1127
    @carlobinda1127 8 місяців тому +2

    Those two aircrafts are drop dead gorgeous, great job guys!!! 😁👍

  • @farmergeo5374
    @farmergeo5374 8 місяців тому +11

    The constant alarm chattering frum the SU-47 is making my brain melt.

  • @blakedelaney1951
    @blakedelaney1951 8 місяців тому +2

    Damn, those extended warranty people just keep calling!

  • @hoangformevo945
    @hoangformevo945 8 місяців тому +11

    A super maneuverable VS a super stealth…

  • @sa80slayer85
    @sa80slayer85 8 місяців тому

    God i love the YF-23s look so much such a super cool design

  • @bigpapaharambe3565
    @bigpapaharambe3565 8 місяців тому

    Man props to Toxic that was some awesome flying! Good stuff GS this was cool to watch :)

  • @Leo_Topin
    @Leo_Topin 7 місяців тому

    Bro 5:20 the YF-22 literally just floats in the air like that is insane that it can do that and then level out so fast..... holy smokes thats awesome

  • @entityeoe2285
    @entityeoe2285 8 місяців тому

    The fact that you can have 2 planes look criminally good pose as a decent matchup against each other is like a masterpiece artwork

  • @Cronus_1
    @Cronus_1 8 місяців тому

    This was fantastic! Some epic flying. At the risk of sounding corny, the way that YF-23 flies is elegant.

  • @Ragnaroknrol
    @Ragnaroknrol 8 місяців тому +7

    Toxic really is just aiming for the cockpit nowadays…

    • @edwardklein5770
      @edwardklein5770 8 місяців тому +2

      Double Tap - it's the only way to be sure!

  • @flyingfish2
    @flyingfish2 8 місяців тому

    Keep up the good work on the YF-23, I've been waiting to see this aircraft in any sort of simulation because of it's beauty and such a radical design. Very futuristic indeed, good work.

  • @muratbozkurt5967
    @muratbozkurt5967 8 місяців тому +2

    Man, thanks for taking requests from your fans!!

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 8 місяців тому

    Dang I swear these just keep getting more entertaining. You could’ve reached out and exchanged Grey Poupon in that second round. Incredible!

  • @cristianradea
    @cristianradea 8 місяців тому +10

    Hi, can you make a video with F15 Stol and F16 XL ?

  • @mr.starks
    @mr.starks 8 місяців тому

    That end shot of the YF engines, looked like the devil just said "waddup" as he took a life, literally.. great work as per

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 2 місяці тому

    That felt like something right out of an ace combat boss fight.
    Very cool.

  • @TrustableGuy
    @TrustableGuy 8 місяців тому

    Close and clean! The action shots lately are intense

  • @Tony-zp8xn
    @Tony-zp8xn 8 місяців тому +1

    This made me think of that meme: "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!" The YF-23 is just a beast. If not for that little mistake in the second round, it would have been a sweep.

  • @BenjiEwald467
    @BenjiEwald467 8 місяців тому

    The way the Grey Ghost dances with the Berkut looks actually so amazing...

  • @darth_google
    @darth_google 8 місяців тому

    Incredible fight. Probably the best on the channel.

  • @1slotmech
    @1slotmech 8 місяців тому +1

    Always a fun video when you fly against Toxic. 🤣

  • @myprivatewar
    @myprivatewar 8 місяців тому +1

    the vaunted YF23 "flying squirrel" 😂

  • @Romulus307
    @Romulus307 8 місяців тому +1

    That "splat" noise is hilarious !

  • @SabertoothedFrostbite
    @SabertoothedFrostbite 8 місяців тому

    Two of my two favorite aircraft facing off against each other, this was an awesome fight my dude

  • @SylvioVerse
    @SylvioVerse 8 місяців тому

    6:58 What a cinematic shot! 😎

  • @midnightbluevt
    @midnightbluevt 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic fight(s). I love the camera work you guys put into your videos BTW. Also dig the Berkut quite a bit, that aircraft just looks so wicked and deadly; a proponent of the Kill-o-Zap design school definitely had a hand in it somewhere along the way.

  • @jeremyortiz2927
    @jeremyortiz2927 8 місяців тому

    9:55 Freaking beautiful aircraft. I hope NGAD looks like this.

  • @mikestork154
    @mikestork154 8 місяців тому

    6:02 That would make a one of a kind wallpaper...

  • @JozMkII
    @JozMkII 8 місяців тому

    That super close range gun kill replay looked like a scene out of a movie

  • @lewiemotorsports3616
    @lewiemotorsports3616 8 місяців тому +1

    Bro the cinematics on this battle were crazy!!!!

  • @Kilnor
    @Kilnor 8 місяців тому +1

    Both are such beautiful aircraft, and this was a fantastic idea for a video. I've gotta say though imo the black widow wins both in mind as the most beautiful and most deadly.

  • @KellyWu04
    @KellyWu04 7 днів тому

    Some of the most exciting dogfighting I’ve seen

  • @mbc9290
    @mbc9290 8 місяців тому

    Fantastic move “falling” maneuvering away from you/your nose in that first round for sure 👍 ✅ 👌!!

  • @Mik21
    @Mik21 8 місяців тому

    6:00 all I heard was top guns "been here the whole time"

  • @RahpaSmurf
    @RahpaSmurf 8 місяців тому +1

    573k subs every one earned. Enjoy the content :)

  • @onerandomfellow6700
    @onerandomfellow6700 8 місяців тому

    @GrowlingSidewinder
    The dark grey YF-23A (PAV-1) is actually Gray Ghost and the light grey one (PAV-2) is Spider. They have their names painted on the inside of their nose wheel bay doors which can be seen in left side photos of the airframes on the ground.
    But yeah, another great video! Your recent dogfights have been so insanely tight, I keep expecting KIA by mid-air collision, haha

  • @barbaros99
    @barbaros99 8 місяців тому

    Your past few videos have reminded me that utter silence followed by "krackathooom!", and "ksh-splortch!"are the principle performers in the GS orchestra.

  • @C1_Bailey
    @C1_Bailey 26 днів тому

    Damn, no mercy on the Su 47 pilot 😅 he got capped twice

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz 8 місяців тому +1

    The Black Widow looks more bird-like while maneuvering than most any other aircraft, imo.

  • @Faston_Shiny_Hunter
    @Faston_Shiny_Hunter 8 місяців тому +2

    Su 47 vs X 29 would be a cool dogfight if possible idk what aircraft are in dcs

  • @icaleinns6233
    @icaleinns6233 8 місяців тому

    what a fantastic fight! That close in was just crazy! Although I did find it odd that GS kept looking back over his shoulder just in time to see 20mm entering his canopy...

  • @TheOriginalCoda
    @TheOriginalCoda 8 місяців тому

    4:44 Someone get that damn phone! 🤣

  • @tehKLN
    @tehKLN 8 місяців тому

    My two favorite concept/experimental aircraft!

  • @therealfearsome
    @therealfearsome 8 місяців тому +1

    one of the best dogfights I ever seen!

  • @J0KER1392
    @J0KER1392 8 місяців тому +2

    Both of this aircraft are not beautyfull at the ground but looks absolutely stunning in air

  • @leisamaggard113
    @leisamaggard113 4 місяці тому

    the black one is beautiful!!

  • @whylie74
    @whylie74 8 місяців тому +2

    They maybe on fire, out of control in a death spiral with no hydraulics and half a wing missing but always always shoot'm in the face, just to be sure.

  • @TheKopfjager
    @TheKopfjager 8 місяців тому +6

    Boys he did it ❤