Moto Gymkhana Techniques Level 2: #5 Throttle Control Tips
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2019
- Throttle technique varies from rider to rider; it's a very individual thing but here are a few tips that might help you improve your throttle control.
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Motorcycle riding is inherently dangerous. This video was filmed in a controlled environment with riders who have years of riding and teaching experience. Lexco Moto Gymkhana and all related personnel are not to be held responsible for any injury resulting from attempting these techniques.
Please wear safety gear, know your limits, know your motorcycle's limits, have fun, and always practice in a safe and controlled environment. - Спорт
Ah, this finally helped me get the same level of control of the throttle as i have in a car. Feels good man.
I'm glad to hear the advice was helpful. Thanks for watching, Bro.
Damn, this is so good. I'm only just appreciating how much work you've put into this, and what an amazing resource it is. thank you
Thanks for the support! I definitely put a lot of thinking and planning into every video series so that the lessons flow in a methodical way. And theres much more to come. Thanks for supporting my channel and for your comment :)
This technique is the one shifted my skills up I Motogymkhana
Thank you for the great efforts you are making,
I have even more tips to offer about throttle control. I hope to record those videos someday to share this information with you. Thank you!
Hi, Great video! I like all your videos. I tried this method this morning on my 125cc scooter, and it works great. I started real slow,
That’s great! I’m glad these techniques have been helpful. I think you did exactly what I would have done to practice this: go to an empty lot and just ride around casually at low speeds to get a feel for it. Once it feels more natural, I would cruise around town for a few hours and just let it become automatic after a few days.
Dear Alex; thank u very much for your informations about sensitive controlling of motorbikes
You are welcome, my friend! Thank you for your support and for watching my videos :)
Hey,
I just wanna say - that your content is great - little technique improvements for the best result -
Thank you a lot !
Thank you very much for your comment! I am always happy to hear that the videos have been helpful. I am currently working on developing the next batch of videos so stay tuned. Thanks for watching :)
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana Great ! I'm exiting :)
It makes a lot of sense the throttle control with finger muscles, apart of the wrist control. I will practice this as Im always concerned about opening too much gas in the corners! However the different fingers for brake control.. I feel is for more advanced riders than myself... you are suggesting to swap the two basic controls of the right hand (gas and brake) to a bunch of independent fingers with different functions! It will require a lot of practice for me to make it natural, but I will give it a try anyway. Thank you for this new chapter!
Thanks for the comment. I agree with you. I had reservations about including that 2nd piece of advice in the intermediate level videos but I figured I might as well throw it out there since I was already doing a video on throttle control. How we use our fingers and how many we use is a very individual thing and the main purpose of the video is just to get people to think outside the box and be conscious of what technique they use and why they use it. Thanks for watching! :)
Great skills and clearly explained. Thanks
You’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching :)
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana Hope you continue yo teach and spread this incredible technique. It is not only fun, but a way to promote safe riding. That is priceless. Cheers!
Great series of videos on the techniques all broken down in steps, well done. I enjoyed them all. I am a new rider and trying to learn as much as possible.
I've seen other sites that mention that the clutch is not used much at all. I wasn't sure if this is a throttle control question or a rear braking question, but probably both. In doing sharp turns, increasing my idle speed/rpms and dragging the rear brake helps me a lot (and less feathering of the clutch), but I'm not sure this is a good technique and also if it will burn out or shorten the life of the brakes?
Thanks for the question. Yes, when riding Moto Gymkhana, I do not use the clutch at all. The trick is to use very little throttle (commonly referred to as "Maintenance Throttle") as you modulate the brakes on and off. There is a lot of overlap between the throttle and brakes. I like to use both front and rear brake but at different times. There is no rule that says you can't use clutch. Some riders that are blazing fast use clutch. It's up to the rider and the bike.
If you drag the rear brake too aggressively, you will end up causing the brake fluid to boil and your caliper will lock up. I made that mistake a lot when I first started. Knowing how and when to use the front brake is key to avoiding this issue and will save you from constant rear brake issues. Also, use of the front brake is vital for manipulating the geometry of the bike which will allow you to get around cones much quicker. I go more in depth about these topics in the next few videos after this one.
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana 1st time I boiled my rear brake fluid the pedal sunk and I lost the brakes.. That was scary hehe.
another great material. BTW when is that.drumming vid coming? ;)
I don't have any drum videos planned for the future, lol, but I have some very old footage I can share. Solo starts about half way through the video: ua-cam.com/video/7nSY15R6kac/v-deo.html
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana wow great drumming as well, I play a little bit not so fast. motojitsu is also musical guy. Looks like both areas need loose hands :)
Hi Alex, Ive been at events where the instructor suggests increasing engine idle speed for gymkhana maneuvers. I don’t understand how that helps with learning throttle control. What are your thoughts on this?
Great question. I am actually planning on addressing this in a video soon but I will give you some thoughts.
One of the things that greatly increases throttle confidence is when we have a smooth transition from OFF the throttle to ON the throttle and vice versa. This is mostly going to be a matter of using refined technique on the throttle but the problem is that many fuel injected bikes have very jerky transitions from on/off the throttle. This can be cured by a power commander and dyno tune but there is a more common and easier option which is to increase the idle rate. Not only will increasing the idle rate smooth out the throttle transition but it will also reduce the amount of engine breaking so that you can fine tune how much engine breaking you get when you roll off the throttle completely.
When it comes to COMPETITIVE Gymkhana, some riders prefer to crank up their idle rate to very high amounts so that the engine is doing most of the work for them. I do not teach this method as it does not teach proper throttle control. Sure, these riders will be fast but those skills do not apply to real world bikes on real world roads. The only time I think it is appropriate to use relatively high idle rates is if you have a super-sport bike that only makes power very high in the rev range. In those cases with those types of bikes, you kinda need to keep the idle rate very high OR you would need to significantly shorten your gearing with sprockets. I opted to use shorter gearing on my Ninja 300 so that I wouldn't have to use high idle rates so that I could use a more natural style with a more natural throttle response. I generally compete with an idle rate of about 2200-2400 rpm if I am using 2nd gear but I like to experiment with other rates and gears often. By the way, Clement from the "Anti Pilote de Ligne Droite" channel has a similar perspective and also does not use high idle rates.
At the end of the day, it's all up to personal preference and perspective. I could talk about this all day so I'll end my response but I hope to share more on upcoming videos. Thanks for watching :)
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana thank you very much for the great explanation! 👍
thanks
No problem!
Does your throttle setting have any slack?
Yes but very little. Only about 2mm of slack.
Nice gloves, who makes them? :)
Those are "Sumo" gloves made by Lee Parks Designs. It's my favorite glove brand and I have used them for years. They provide EXCELLENT feel at the grips and levers and they are made from Deer hide which is very sturdy and durable against abrasion. I highly recommend them.
who makes those gloves ?
Good question. Those are made by a company called Lee Parks Designs. Lee Parks is the guy who wrote the Total Control book. There are pros and cons to these gloves but overall, they’re pretty sweet. Pros: AMAZING feel. Not bulky at all and feels like a second layer of skin. Made from deer leather which is known to be very abrasion resistant. Also, I like the look; very minimalist. Cons: they smell funky when sweaty so you have to wash them often. Washing leather also means using leather conditioner so lots of maintenance. The color dye also runs when hands get sweaty and the color stays on your hands. Also, they stretch once you start washing them so they start to get loose. I own a pair with black D30 armor called the “Sumo”. I also have a pair without armor called the “Deer Tours”. Both are incredible products. Get them a size smaller than usual as they run big and stretch over time. I unfortunately won’t be buying anymore because I recently decided to stop buying animal leather products. I will be buying synthetic textile gloves from now on but I won’t lie about the quality of the gloves; they’re the best out there.