Moto Gymkhana Techniques Level 2: #6 Use the Force!
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Let's talk throttle! This time, we will discuss throttle timing and how we can use the physical forces that are present when we speed up with the throttle to maneuver our motorcycle more efficiently.
Example 1 (Sakuta): • 月の輪基礎コース
Example 2 (Tominaga): • tominaga Winning Run -...
Example 3 (MTMT): • 2014 7 20 Dunlop Moto ...
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Motorcycle riding is inherently dangerous. This video was filmed in a controlled environment with riders who have years of riding and teaching experience. Lexco Moto Gymkhana and all related personnel are not to be held responsible for any injury resulting from attempting these techniques.
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I watched most of your videos and there is one thing worth mentioning that I never heard explained but observed while watching Haruhiko Tsujiie doing his GP8 record. This is my observation and I may be wrong.
But I think that when he (or other moto gymkhana master) uses the rear brake while motorcycle is slow in the turn, this makes the motorcycle behave like a compass (a circle drawing tool): it spins around its rear wheel. So the front wheel probably spins faster and doing bigger circle around the cone than the rear one. Front wheel has more mass on it and is not restrained by the brake, so it is more free to do so. This explains insanely low diameter of his turns while doing this so dynamically. I think other riders also use advantage of this phenomenon but may not realize it. This compass metaphor I coined helped me understand it :)
Let me know if you agree.
Yes. I actually do agree 100%. I mention this effect briefly in a following video called "The Brakes". I like the name that you gave it but I refer to it in my video as a "Hook Turn" effect. The Hook Turn Effect is one of the reasons I release the Front Brake at the slowest point of the turn and only use Rear Brake. Releasing the Front Brake at that time also unloads and lightens the front wheel and allows it to turn more quickly.
Your observation is correct. Nice job watching The Masters carefully :)
Alex, loving your work! Great info., and eye-opening! Keep it up! And keep the visual examples coming! They definitely help!
I'm very happy to hear that the videos are helpful. Thank you very much for watching and for the kind comment. New videos coming soon! :)
Perfect, your videos helped a lot to amend my riding skills 👍🏻
Once again, thank you for your kind comments. Thank you for watching and take care, my friend :)
And an other great information. Thanks Alex 👍🏻
No problem :)
New subscriber here! Cant wait to practice this! I'm a new rider aswell going to add this to my tool bag!
Thanks for the sub! I hope the videos will be helpful :)
You are a good man and a good simple teacher using simple instructive tools. Thank you a lot. As a new rider, this Sunday I will be taking gymkhana classes in France. As first bike, would you recommend me to buy sytreet bob of harley
Thank you for your comment. I am happy to hear that you enjoy the videos and my simplistic teaching style. I always make my videos as easy to understand as possible so that riders of all skill levels can try Moto Gymkhana; not just the advanced riders.
Cruiser motorcycles with V-Twin engines like the Harley Street Bob can be good beginner bikes. They are low to the ground and deliver easy to manage power (compared to an inline 4 sport bike engine). The only problem with cruisers is that since they are low to the ground, you will have ground clearance issue when trying to make tight turns like in Moto Gymkhana. If you are looking to use this bike for Gymkhana, you might be limited in what you can do. If I were to buy my first bike today, I would probably go with something like a small displacement naked bike. Examples would be Kawasaki Z400, Yamaha MT-03 or KTM 390 Duke. They are comfortable, light, easy to handle and they have enough ground clearance to ride Gymkhana just fine. But it's all up to what your priorities are. If you really want a cruiser because you like the style, that's ok too. Just realize that every type of motorcycle has it's strengths and weaknesses so you must consider all of the variables.
Used your add throttle at exit technique this morning while practicing tight U turns. Once you figure out the timing of when to add the throttle, it makes exiting a tight (16’) U turn much more stable. The bike just seems to want to stand back upright without me having to re shift my weight. Thanks for the insight.
Nice! I’m glad you found the topic helpful. Adding throttle as you exit also changes the motorcycle’s geometry, which makes the bike turn quickly. I’m going to make a video about that this month. And you are correct about the timing, as well. There is so much timing involved! Getting on the throttle at just the right time can make all the difference.
I am humbled by the riders in all three of those videos. I realize there is no hope for me. MTMT is particularly interesting in that he actually got his front wheel off the ground in one maneuver, and in one instance he had to put a foot down, which to me is amazing. How on earth he determines that's the one mistake when he is going to drop his bike when all his moves appear he's about to fall is astounding.
Yes, there is no hope for me (but I'll still practice some). Your figure 8's are fun.
I don’t know if I’ll ever get to that level either but, to me, Moto Gymkhana is less about competition and more about just learning how to become one with the bike. We all have different talents and abilities but just being able to ride this style is fun at any level and a great way to learn to be smooth which will help us stay safe on the roads. Keep at it, Brotha! And thanks for watching :)
Example 2 / Tominaga looks like he's losing traction on his rear tire on purpose in order to turn tighter, right? Sick!
That’s definitely a possibility. When riding at those speeds and lean angles, you are definitely gonna get some occasional slippage of the tires, especially the rear tire around cones. I don’t know if he’s doing it on purpose but if it happens, you can definitely use the slip angle to tighten your turns. That’s pro level stuff!
@@LexcoMotoGymkhana I'm looking at Example 1 again - and it seems like Sakuta is using the throttle for unknown reasons around 1:02 to 1:06.... what is the reason for his rough multiple accelerations there? ua-cam.com/video/hJhstXvxiIo/v-deo.html
thanks for videos. very detailed. i'm tryng do this with my ktm 690 smc, but throttle control is very hard to me with this bike. Greetings from Italy!
Thank you for watching and for your comment. I know that with enough time and attention, you will develop your throttle control. Make sure to watch a lot of good riders and listen to the exhaust to give you an idea of throttle timing. Grazie!
are you hitting full lock when you are doing the only throttle, no brake drill
No. I don't really hit full lock very often when riding these types of drills. I don't really aim to hit full lock all the time but if it happens, it happens. For me, full lock is like dragging knee on a track: You're not really trying to force it to happen. It just happens naturally with the right speed, body position and lean angle. Thanks for the question and for watching.
Interesting teaching. Appreciate the effort.
Are the three guys in the vids you posted using 1st or 2nd gear?
Thanks for watching and for your comment. I think they mostly use 1st gear but I have seen Takayoshi Sakuta use 2nd gear sometimes; he says so in some of his video descriptions. It all is gonna depend on the specific bike and how it’s tuned as well as gearing and overall engine character. It takes a while to really experiment and learn what the bike likes and what you like. In Moto Gymkhana it’s pretty much an ongoing process of making adjustments and modifications. I will be making a mods series of videos very soon where I will go more in depth on my opinions on these subjects. Thanks again :)