What if No One Won WW2? The Thousand Week Reich Lore - 8bit Alternate History
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2021
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What if nobody won WW2? Well okay, Germany sorta does in this scenario but Japan doesn't so let's consider it a draw. This video is based on the Thousand Week Reich (TWR) mod for Hearts of Iron IV (HOI4).
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Over 10% of these videos these days are stupid ads.
Vanced: i have no such weakness
@@KorianHUN Over 10% of all videos at this point.
The only reason they do that is because UA-cam likes to randomly demonetize things.
Especially about subjects like World War II
I think it’s because it mentions the
“funny mustache man” but who knows.
I’d still call it “what it germany won wwii”, but actually taking the realism route over the complete chaos route that leads it to be a much worse and less interesting fantasy world but also a much better alternate history
virgin TNO vs Chad TWR
@Safwaan Why would the Germans have pushed that far? Operation Barbarossa was only ever meant to reach the A-A line, which would've already been enough to deprive the Soviets of most of their population and resources. They could've maybe pushed for the Urals as a buffer zone at some point, but Siberia and Central Asia are desolate by comparison and the logistical nightmare of occupying all that territory would outweigh any possible benefit. In TWR Azerbaijan is already a part of RKS Kaukasus and the only Caucasian country that isn't is Armenia, which I could see the Germans annexing or puppeting but could also just be unimportant enough to be left alone
As for Japan, if we're talking about TWR then none of that matters because Japan still loses.
Not in Hitler's wildest dreams did he consider the slender resources of Germany capable of conquering more than Continental Europe. Perhaps the Germans would have ruled some territory through puppets beyond their borders, but the German state itself was never, no matter how successfull the Wehrmact was, going to extent to much beyond what is presented in this mod. The whole 'Germany wanted the conquer the world' thing was just not possible, nor ever in the German plans.
tno is better than twr, much more content and its more fun. yeah the lore is quite stupid but its not mesnt to be realidtic, i dont get why people hate for no reason, tno is a very fun mod
@@mrminicalico4579 i never played twr but tno is basically a "look at the screen and do nothing" simulator
I think it's more "What if Germany won WW2 but Japan lost"
I mean it’s not that Germany won WW2, there was never a true World War 2. It was several separate conflicts.
@@obiwankenobi4252 aka a war that everyone calls wwII which Germany won.
Japan just couldn't survive when in collision course with the USA.
If the US wanted Japan dead, there is no way they couldn't win a total victory.
The most realistic www axis victory scenario
Japan lost is inevitable, they cant compete with us supremacy and their army spread too thin across china and south east asia
1:48 the beach resort where the sand is oddly red and there’s... human bones in the water...
Yeah ignore that I’m sure that’s just a mirage
Don't worry about it bro, Heydrich is just out trolling
Oh no, I think I recognise the bodies in the water
What?
@@user-pn7jz9vr2z Gotenland in game was created as Reinhard Heydrich's personal play ground and he preceded at ethnically cleansing all of the area frim it's original inhabitants and replace them with ethnic Germans in the only effective in-universe branch of the generalplan ost.
Oh, and then he built a beach resort in these territories and made it the official German vacation destination.
So end of Evangelion?
In potential 2 episode covering scenarios which can happen during the game please tell about all of this Zapadoslavia idea, I think it is even a main mod lore after the starting date.
Ooooh Zapadoslavia, I like that
West slavic countries but epic
I've had a guy form Zapadoslavia in a discord nation rp once.
If a part 2 will ever exist, you should cover Hungary and the balkan nations
Agreed
Yea you'd think the invasion of Greece would still happen but it dosent seem that jt did. I mean the invasion of Greece was a pretty big deal at least untill the invasion of the USSR. Hell the reason Germany didint have paratroopers late war was because of the invasion of Crete and sence that didint happen I'm guessing Germany still uses paratroopers. I mean I'd still think the Italians would attempt to invade Greece and would lose almost like in our timeline but hey that's just what I think.
Plus the colonies
Silly, ww3 is part 2
I only like this cause they make good HOI4 games
Thanks for making this video!
How are you doin'?
@Epic gamerDoing a bit of Trolling
lavrentiy beria in charge of the soviet union is the most cursed timeline
wow that Beria guy seems like a great dude I wonder what his thoughts on the age of consent are...
In all fairness, he's presented as being very unpopular, both within the Communist Party and the general population. It's him dying within the first few months of the game that lets the USSR's remnants finally do something to fix their situation.
"what if no one won ww2"
***the usa wins ww2***
*so does germany*
USA only fights japan so it wasn’t really a world war
@@novelseeker4410 it's fractured and broke. Won't call it a win.
@@harshjain3122 we’re talking about the war here, not about internal politics.
Conveniently forgets about Germany*
Honestly, we have a lot of “What if Germany won WW2”... now, “What if no one wins WW2?”, this is... interesting.
But in this, Germany did won too
@@Pilintra military but not politicly also the rest of the axis powers lost and Italy lost half of Albania to Greece after there failed invasion.
@@Demicleas i said Germany. And also Italy didn't lost (by 1952) in this timeline, they control Albania and have Greece as a puppet, bruh
@@Pilintra they do? How did they beat Greece? Must of thought of a different thing then.
@@Demicleas they probably got help from Germany just like otl, most likely after guaranteeing the UK wouldn't interfere
If you ever make a part 2, you must know that there is an official timeline for twr all the way to the modern age
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I’d moreso call this: What if Germany and Italy won but Japan lost?
And usa and china
Respect for keeping the massive voice crack at 5:51.
This time... The Forest Brothers would probably be more popular and have more people to join it like in: Baltics (originally they came from here, 1944-1980's), West Russia, Ukraine, Belarus. If Germany won ww2
Only in TWR TL,where germans kills estonians for no reason,sadly in OTL they were considered honrorable aryans,and actualy in TNO vistuska(collabs beytal the RK) ostland's path makes more sense begining an estonian path(especialy if you do the massacre of tallin university path) than an belarussian path,but they use the same unrealistic bs of germany kills estones for no reason(especialy considering that this is just throwing Finland in Toronto Accord/OFN easily)
No, lol, the Baltic states had 3 times as many people per Capita join up with the Germans, than Americans joined the American military, and the Latvians killed 50,000 Jews and communists as the Soviets were retreating. That's probably the only part of Europe where the population was glad to be invaded.
I love how out of all the alternate timelines people could possibly make a Hoi4 mod out of, everyone just decides to do Germany wins.... again
I would love a part 2 as well as videos like this covering mods and alternate histories
I would love to see LoganProductions try to explain the lore of the Divergence mod from Victoria 2.
That would just be impossible
i really like your pixel art styles in your videos
Why does your pfp looks like toilet sign?
jk
I just want to point out a small mistake at 1:40. Wehrmacht is written with an h because "Wehr" means protect/defend and "Macht" means might/power.
Other than that, great video. :)
Literally armed forces
@@buttholesurfer1266 more like "defence force".
Japanese Defence Forces in a Nutshell
I’ve been waiting for so long.
"What if nobody won WWII?"
The more I read about world wars, the less I see anybody winning in them. Even US could have peacefully became a superpower due to its economic boom instead of losing several million young men. You can't win total war, you can endure and survive it...
USA didnt even lose half a million men
@@evorbis more than that the US never would’ve gotten so rich and been the dominant superpower. Of course the US won the war.
What, The Allies lost WWII?
@@user-yy5di3qg5u UK and France lost the superpower status, their economies were ruined, their empires fell apart.
USSR lost over 20 million people, China lost almost 40 million.
Верни поколение, рождённое в 1923-ем, "победюн"...
The US wouldn’t be as dominant if the other powers didn’t take so much damage from the war.
Printer lore when?
What?
The irony is that Fascist Italy has the greatest chance of survival in this timeline as Japan still got oofed while Germany is imploding
Well, they was kinda doing good before entering the war, so is pretty accurate that without it they are the one's with less problems
@@themajor9059 'doing good' they had a GDP/c of $591 in 1938, while the Reich had 3x that.
@@Poffean bro, that doesn't mean anything, and olso according to my resources the German's GDP one was less than the double of the Italian's one
100 k subs good job man
5:51 damn his voice cracked harder than mine 😂
Did.. you say “have a pint” as if the word pint rhymes with pin...?
Support for ya brother
COME ON PART 2
Its a shame this mod has so many bugs and other problems, it has the potential.
Can somebody tell why the hell are even the German settlers having a bad time in the Reichkommissariats?
He literally explains it
They basically live in the Middle East but cold
that edit of the soviet anthem was SICK
It's a song called soviet techno anthem I think by Dj Stalin
With the English hoi4 youtube being stretched so thin, I have to come back to these videos just to remember what are the mods
Every day i discover a new mod for this game
You should make an rpg game. Doesn't matter if it's depressing or not as long as it's interesting
Et beh les recommandations ça va vite ahah.
Otherwise known as the more Realistic TNO minus the batshit insanity the mod has
6:28 Social Credit Balance: -99999999999999999999999
Always gonna love hoi4
What people often don't know is that the Germans were paying for everything with inflation and price controls.
By early 1945 there wasn't anything to buy but everyone had money, so the black market thrived.
By fall of 1945, the German economy would have crashed as workers would have nothing to buy with their pay.
Germany never had a chance without an oil supply.
That led to Stalingrad as the Soviets had 9% of the worlds supply at that time is the northern Caucasins.
This is even bigger larp than TNO
Hey could cover also the the mod The New Order: The Last Days of Europe's lore? They have similar premises but they're fairly differently.
He already did ua-cam.com/video/bpu3p2XpL9s/v-deo.html
The definition of a republic is a nation that isn't ruled by a monarch. So every dictatorship is a republic.
By definition yes but in practice no.
@@1234eugene As in states like Haiti, Syria and North Korea are technically Republics but in the past/today their leaders gained power through inheriting it from their father. So what I really meant is that normally yes but in some instances, no, some republics can function as monarchies.
@@petergriffin3194 north korea has elections, but if you do not vote for Kim jon-um( hope i wrote correctly) you are going to prison and there they kill you.
Where did you get that definition? Generally, it's agreed upon that a republic is a state that derives its right to rule from the people, rather than something like divine right.
i though this was ww1 and i was confused as fuck
I love how the Japan music intro is just Jojos.... based
This is the timeline where the US. Got to have just the dessert of frying japan without finishing its german vegetables first
This is basically Germany won wwII BUT the after math is realistic.
Even though the allies didn’t attack from the west I still think Germany would probably loose to the Soviet Union.
Yeah. Well, maybe Germany could've invaded Britain, but it could never win against the United States.
Even if they had developed a nuclear bomb, they wouldn't be able to get planes close enough to drop them in the US. The US navy is incredibly strong, and the Atlantic is an incredible barrier.
@@everythingiseconomics9742you under estimate the power of a suicide missions with a shit ton of luck
@autist1949
Even if they did, the Royal Navy would pretty much starve whatever tiny force they managed to paratroop or get across in rickety boats.
unless the western allies were still giving tons of lend lease, no way they would've survived
Okay I have to try this mod out now
there’s also 2 other warlords but they are quite close to perm
Now you need to cover the Anglo-American Nazi War.
The most viewed part of the video is the end of the sponsor lmao
russia is like ww1 when germany beated russia
Love how Switzerland just dissapeared without a trace
swiss rebels appear when german civil war happens
In the TWR timeline, Germany and Italy basically partition Switzerland between each other in a military campaign that takes about 6 months in 1943 and 1944.
@@stevendebettencourt7651
I mean yeah the Soviets did fall but 6 months?
I'd gamble it'd probably take 9-12.
Like did they use Nukes or something
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 Unfortunately, I’ve never seen the details about the campaign. But, if an army can breach through the mountain passes into the country and hold them, I could see the Swiss army not being able to hold out too long. Switzerland’s geography has always been its greatest strength.
@@stevendebettencourt7651
Yeah that's the thing that bothered me.
Guerilla Tactics especially in a mountainous terrain would prove dangerous to the German Tanks that would try to drive in.
the amount of partisan activity in eastern europe would be insane. When you leave people with death either way, they’ll choose to die fighting till the bitter end.
Yes
Lmao this is basically the plotline to Saga of Tanya the Evil.
Saga of Tanya is actually based on world war 1.
OMG best Anime
@@Marylandbrony It's sorta a mix of both WW1 and WW2 elements.
Omg i thought ubuploaded that video
Is Crimea Russian or Ukrainian? Well in this timeline it belongs to Raid Shadow Legends!
Nothing like a nice cold piint
What if Switzerland and Finland won WWII
in some regards, they, along with Sweden, did. Finland proved itself and reclaimed territory from the Winter War, and Switzerland and Sweden had their economy boosted while their neighbors lost so much.
The only non-war combatant who lost a lot is Spain, due to the flu and the civil war.
They already practically did win WW2 by not participating
So basically TNO but the ordenstaat is in crimea
Actually if the soviets lost in this scenario Stalin need to be alive with each defeat Stalin's Paranoia will increase and purge the best generals of the red army
8:28 sonic the hedgehog
I’ve wondered this before
I might try this mod..
Nice vid, one small problem. Crimea, I mean Theodoro, is rightfully Byzantine
This makes no sense if the Brit’s surrendered in 1940 they still have there good reserves they weren’t driven into debt by America losing India doesn’t collapse the empire
3:26 skip here when the sponsor comes on, it take you to Britain.
Technically, humanity always loses when wars happen.
You forgot to add on that joseph stalin fled to argentina
Actually Churchill and Some Hardcore Warmonger British Cabinet ministers accepted that the dunkirk escape would not happen and wanted to continue the fight
idk man this seems like what if germany won ww2
Wrong, hitler goes to the moon and puts his flag, then becomes Emperor of the Universe.
Годно
gotta wait for a "what if ww2 never happened"
That’s pretty much impossible, Ww2 was inevitable. The closest thing you could get to is Germany joins the Allies and the Soviets fight Europe.
@@average_commenter1 then posticipated? like what if the appeasement thing lasted for poland too?
@@laff__8821 appeasement could not have lasted. Even if it did somehow work, funny mustache man would have eventually attacked Europe, as that was his goal
Can u plzzzz do 'Man in the high castle', even though it's not a hoi4 mod?
Frozen war lore pls
I WANT MORE
what is the music at 6:26? it's so beautiful
taiwan anthem
When regular timeline
what is the song that starts at 8:18?
I don’t know, but I know it’s in the Mount & Blade Napoleonic Wars DLC soundtrack. Happy hunting
The tune is Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saëns. Don't know about the specific rendition though.
The whole reason for the scenario is pretty stupid. Dunkirk in reality didnt have that much impact on the war as a whole.
In real life it didn't because hitler purposely stalled and allowed the british army to escape- if he didn't and simply crushed and killed or captured all of those men, it would have been a devestating blow to the british- but I agree that it probably wouldnt have made the U.K surrender immediately.
Losing 338,000 troops for the cost of nearly nothing for the nazi's would have been absolutely devestating, and made an invasion of the U.K far easier though, especially since that army was the U.K's most elite and well trained troops.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Hitler didnt stale the advance, they simply couldnt push, and the main problem of the British wasnt the manpower, but the equipment that they lost
@@bebedor_de_cafe3272 That's a complete lie.
Hitler ordered his forces to stand down for 48 hours, allowing for the escape.
While it's true that the British empire had plenty of manpower to draw upon from their colonies, The Expeditionary force was their most elite army at their disposal, it was their professional standing army. Not to mention there were also allies at dunkirk, like the remains of the French 1st army, and some low lands strugglers.
While its not certain it would have "won the war" had this army been crushed and captured, It's easy to say that the loss of nearly 400,000 elite troops would have been a devestating blow to the British and French free army, which would come back to bite Hitler in the ass in Africa and even later Normandy/Sicily.
For Reference, Wikipedia states that Britian's TOTAL military casualties were 383,000 deaths over the entirety of ww2, losing the army at Dunkirk would have almost doubled that number.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND an invasion of the uk wouldn't have been made any easier by killing 338,000 army soldiers. The problem was the British navy, not its army.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Still, they expected losing the army at Dunkirk. It was just a very pleasent surprise that they didnt.
That's a what if Germany won scenario
Gets excited to watch video*
Sees download raid in comments*
Clicks off*
Hey can you do a fallout history video plz?
World War Two week by week from #timeghostarmy is the best history ever if you want to watch something cool and nuanced and right about #WW2 #neverforget #wearestrongertogether
What if what ever happened in MAA?
Now do the my little pony mod
Their blood their land their people
The axis kinda won but japan tho oof
Pretty sure Italy failed to invade Greece as well or will fail because pretty sure the invasion of Greece would still happen except this time without German support.
@@Demicleas pretty sure when i played greece was a italian puppet but they might break away
Japan wasn't part of the Axis anyway.
@@noodled6145irl they were or are you taking about this timeline
Yay
the fucking jojo music for Japan LMAOO
someone would have to win for someone to loose
If in a war all country's just have their entire army die and be put into extreme instability it is a lost war for both sides, especially if those nations would collapse like Yugoslavia or the soviets.
3:25 ending of add 3:25
Noo I cant escape raid
What if World War III started When the Soviet union suit existing
4?? 4 nukes?!
I like this mod cuz it's probably the most realistic scenario for an Axis victory
On the Russian "republic": "republic" merely refers to a country which isn't led by a monarch or clericals.
Nazi Germany also was a republic, just a lot more fascist than others with the exception of the USA.