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Haven't watched the video yet, but my little prediction is that if Russia won they definitely wouldn't be asking for land because of their state during those times. I'd imagine they would definitely want their original land back Germany took from them. But other then that nothing much would change only because they were in the middle of a civil war/revolution.
There are some other known HOI4 mods or scenarios besides: TNO, Red Flood, Kaiserredux, Kaiserreich, Millenium Dawn, this one from the video. In addition to those I know one called "Another World", does anyone know others like that?, just to investigate them.
The Russian Empire was at the brink of collapse decades before the great war, and considering that no reforms were mentioned, it's extremely unrealistic. Not saying that Kaisereich peaks realism, but at least it's more considerable.
Russia was both economically and politically reformed since 1907. Main issue for the revolution was inability of reactionary state to face political extremists. Unlike Britain or France, Russia wasn't violent against political extremists viewing them more as active citizens than traitors and Russian state didn't use its patriots and different right wing groups to stop enemies beside the state(it was illegal for officers to officially declared themselves as a members of tsarist political parties, btw)
The allies won the Gallipoli campaign or kept the ottoman empire out of the war entirely would help the tsars survive. I hope they have a Russian victory in the Crimean war mod.
Not to throw up a fuss, but this mod is kind of dead. I’ve followed their Discord server for a while and there hasn’t been a major update to the mod in terms of an announcement since December of 2020. Sorry to everyone who was hopeful, but I sincerely doubt we’ll be seeing anything more from this mod in the future
one might think "man how can the russians be that good in the war its just unrealistic their entire country wasnt stable and state of the army 1914 really far from good" just think to yourself - if nikolai could hold power after the war he was probably a different emperor with different personality - so not so receptive to reforms before the war
@@Horizon_Au Russia Empire arguably could've been the most dominant Empire in history if it conquered both Germany and Constantinople at the same time in WW1
If this happened there would be no WW2 , no US hegemony in Europe France and Russia would be allies with great powers and so UK and USA 4 superpowers of the time
There is a lot of nonsense based on mods here. For example, in fact, in 1916 Russia and Japan entered into a secret anti-British alliance (which could be the reason for the overthrow of the tsar by Russian Anglophiles).
@@divingdown6173 At least read Wikipedia before pretending to be smart. The generals forced (or counterfeited) Nicholas to sign a renunciation of the throne in favor of his brother, who renounced in favor of parliament. Britain recognized the Russian Republic and demanded the evacuation of their ruler's cousin. The Russian Republic survived the first attempted military coup by the Bolsheviks and Kornilov, but in the end, Nikolai had nothing to do with the last military coup of the Bolsheviks.
2:14 I'm being SUPER nitpicky, but it isn't quite correct to say that the Ottomans "were pushed out of Israel". Prior to Israeli Independence in 1948, 'Israel' referred to the ancient kingdom by that name, and as a proposed name for the 'Jewish State' envisioned by zionists, but was almost never used to refer to the geographic region. The geographic region you're referring to was called 'Palestine', which prior to the genesis of a distinct Palestinian Identity in the mid-20th century, was a purely geographic term with no political or ethnic connotations referring to the lands East of the Mediterranean, North of the Sinai Peninsula, South of the Lebanon Mountains, and West of the Jordan River. As an aside, Zionist political organizations only settled on the name 'Israel' in the 1940s. For most of the early 19th century 'Zion' was actually the most popular name for a potential Jewish state, with 'Judea' and 'Israel' being less popular alternatives. 'Palestine' was also very seriously considered, and an alternate history where a country analogous to Israel was named Palestine is completely plausible. Which is kinda hilarious given what transpired in our timeline.
Realistically, there’s no way to break apart Germany into different countries like Austria or the Ottomans unless they were absolutely crushed. Would they be smaller? Absolutely, but you can’t just pull four nations out of thin air without an actual reason, and if the war lasted up to 1917, that clearly means that the Germans were holding on.
Idk but I think it's because Greece wanted the Turkish straits with Constantinople in their Megali Idea but in this scenario Russia occupied the straits so they would be pissed off against each other.
I think even if Austria collapsed early, Russia would still probably collapse. Maybe they would have more time to mobilize, but (although I could be wrong) they might still collapse. Also, I don’t think Hungary would stay United with Austria, as they were fighting for independence themselves.
Althis scenarios bother me. There are so many holes and things not taken in confederation. A good and logical example would be: If the French defeated the Prussians, there wouldn’t be a Berlin Congress, meaning that the Balkans would be split by Russia’s will.
@@ЙованДобройевичь Russia Empire winning WW1 would be the best thing that ever happened no WW2, no Cold war France, Russia, USA and Britain would be the superpowers no communism taking over Europe would be at peace
Honestly I don’t like the russian federation government because they are trying to make a dictator ship (I just hate the government) but the russian empire may not have been to industrialized but the tsar is not cruel
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You dont need to put random memes on your vids, its just interreuptinh the content
I need to see more
Have you considered makings your own alternate history scenario? Your really good at conveying the story of them.
200th like and also yes he should make his own one.
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551th yes he should
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I am sure everyone will not use this video about Russia to unload all their Russia-Ukraine conflict hot takes in the comments.
I think you'll get more complaints about the unrealism of this scenario.
Or just that you're very ghey
@@mountainmamma1643 woah! That’s not the cool
I love u bro
Russia and Ukraine are both rightful Crimean land.
But when the world needed him the most… HE RETURNED!
R/beatmetoit
@@keterpatrol7527 R/beatmymeattoit
“In the name of the Tsar”
Me: “Wait a minute that sounds like-“
“Oh by the way *THE ENEMY IS BEING REINFORCED WITH AN AIRSHIP* “
You actually took one of our requests! Thank you so much!
Haven't watched the video yet, but my little prediction is that if Russia won they definitely wouldn't be asking for land because of their state during those times. I'd imagine they would definitely want their original land back Germany took from them. But other then that nothing much would change only because they were in the middle of a civil war/revolution.
this didnt go well!
Constantinople was literally THE reason hey entered the war, of course they’d ask for more land.
Epic troll move to run a history channel for years and still call the Qing "king".
it isnt bokoen who pronounces it as how it’s spelled or “Kwing”
@@vixster6977 so if a furry is trying to say king
@@tableprinterdoor i mean bo being a furry doesnt sound too far off tbf
Would you do a lore video for Atlantis Mu Lemuria, HOI4 mod
There are some other known HOI4 mods or scenarios besides: TNO, Red Flood, Kaiserredux, Kaiserreich, Millenium Dawn, this one from the video. In addition to those I know one called "Another World", does anyone know others like that?, just to investigate them.
There's Fuhrerreich, which was a reimagining of people from Kaiserreich thinking what if the Entente won WW1.
Kaiserredux is just kaiserreich but more detailed in its lore, plus the important event where everyone collectively stopped taking their meds
@mechamedegeorge6786 which is?
2:01 happy to see this time the pact of london was respected
The Russian Empire was at the brink of collapse decades before the great war, and considering that no reforms were mentioned, it's extremely unrealistic. Not saying that Kaisereich peaks realism, but at least it's more considerable.
Tbh russia in the name of the tsar is in the brink of collapse even winning the war
At least Kaiserreich tries to have things actually make sense
yea things just happen, like Russia defeated Germany and Austria because yes
@@outerspace7391 because why the hell not
Russia was both economically and politically reformed since 1907. Main issue for the revolution was inability of reactionary state to face political extremists. Unlike Britain or France, Russia wasn't violent against political extremists viewing them more as active citizens than traitors and Russian state didn't use its patriots and different right wing groups to stop enemies beside the state(it was illegal for officers to officially declared themselves as a members of tsarist political parties, btw)
what happens every 1936?
Huey long: I MUST EXPAND MY DO- I MEAN CSA (2nd american civil war basically)
Me: slowly making the mother of all landleash
The allies won the Gallipoli campaign or kept the ottoman empire out of the war entirely would help the tsars survive. I hope they have a Russian victory in the Crimean war mod.
I never heard of this one, I'll download it next day. Thanks for this one!
Russia be like:
*U N L I M I T E D P O W E R*
Could you maybe maybe ever do a custom scenario about what if the Russo-Japanese war escalated to world war one?
Imagine ekaterina II actually helped Britain’s and stopped American revolution?
I have A question: which story do you like more
Kaierreich or southern victory ?
That's A difficult question, I would have to go to Kaiserreich but Southern Victory is also good. Hail The Greater United States.
@@legionoffascist2014 Hail the Greater United States.
Wilhelm II: i didn't want this but he let me keep my throne...
0:50 apparently there were Black men in Austria-Hungary lmao
Hey man, great video, so basically, I want to ask you if you can make a video about the "PaxBritannica" lore"
Not to throw up a fuss, but this mod is kind of dead. I’ve followed their Discord server for a while and there hasn’t been a major update to the mod in terms of an announcement since December of 2020. Sorry to everyone who was hopeful, but I sincerely doubt we’ll be seeing anything more from this mod in the future
but they released some updates in april, may and september of 2021
one might think "man how can the russians be that good in the war its just unrealistic their entire country wasnt stable and state of the army 1914 really far from good"
just think to yourself - if nikolai could hold power after the war he was probably a different emperor with different personality - so not so receptive to reforms before the war
What is so bad about late russian empire?
@@michaelbondarenko8904 nothing its just not realistic that he could hold power being the same person he was irl.
The empire was in a precarious position, but if it had survived to this day, it would have been a powerful country.
@@Horizon_Au Russia Empire arguably could've been the most dominant Empire in history if it conquered both Germany and Constantinople at the same time in WW1
@@JDDC-tq7qm I know, but I went down a different road
love your vids logan
I'm glad this classic is getting some attention
It’s a big bummer that Logan only gets views on his hoi4 videos
His history videos don’t perform nearly as well
Welcome back! :)
5:32 Romania would declare war on Hungary to ovethrow the communist government if that happened, just like what actually happened in real life.
love your videos👏
My question is why the Russians backed the Turks instead of the Greeks
the lore
Probably to rival british influence in the region
@@bardiafn5966 did someone say British influence?
I love this scenario!
Я тоже
If this happened there would be no WW2 , no US hegemony in Europe France and Russia would be allies with great powers and so UK and USA 4 superpowers of the time
@@JDDC-tq7qm I think there’d still be another world war, but not involving nazis, more like powers fighting over their spheres of influence
There is a lot of nonsense based on mods here. For example, in fact, in 1916 Russia and Japan entered into a secret anti-British alliance (which could be the reason for the overthrow of the tsar by Russian Anglophiles).
you do know that the communist revolution happened right?
@@divingdown6173 So what?
@@radziwill7193 that was the sole reason the tsar was overthrown, not his deal with Japanese, not the British, it’s the bolsheviks and the Germans
@@divingdown6173 At least read Wikipedia before pretending to be smart. The generals forced (or counterfeited) Nicholas to sign a renunciation of the throne in favor of his brother, who renounced in favor of parliament. Britain recognized the Russian Republic and demanded the evacuation of their ruler's cousin.
The Russian Republic survived the first attempted military coup by the Bolsheviks and Kornilov, but in the end, Nikolai had nothing to do with the last military coup of the Bolsheviks.
@@radziwill7193 just remembered that a republic was announced before the bolsheviks actually won, my bad
Russia supports Turkey and UK supports Greece
What the Rakja?
in the lore greece invaded turkey and russia intervened
You should narrate thousand week reich next
2:33 you mean constantinople?
2:14 I'm being SUPER nitpicky, but it isn't quite correct to say that the Ottomans "were pushed out of Israel". Prior to Israeli Independence in 1948, 'Israel' referred to the ancient kingdom by that name, and as a proposed name for the 'Jewish State' envisioned by zionists, but was almost never used to refer to the geographic region.
The geographic region you're referring to was called 'Palestine', which prior to the genesis of a distinct Palestinian Identity in the mid-20th century, was a purely geographic term with no political or ethnic connotations referring to the lands East of the Mediterranean, North of the Sinai Peninsula, South of the Lebanon Mountains, and West of the Jordan River.
As an aside, Zionist political organizations only settled on the name 'Israel' in the 1940s. For most of the early 19th century 'Zion' was actually the most popular name for a potential Jewish state, with 'Judea' and 'Israel' being less popular alternatives. 'Palestine' was also very seriously considered, and an alternate history where a country analogous to Israel was named Palestine is completely plausible. Which is kinda hilarious given what transpired in our timeline.
You don't have to keep doing this, you know.
very cool video bro !!
Tbh Im not watching this for alternate history I just haven't played the mod and I'm curious
Can you make the "Disaster" mod lore?
Ok but why the change of Guantanamo? Why? Tell me why?
Realistically, there’s no way to break apart Germany into different countries like Austria or the Ottomans unless they were absolutely crushed. Would they be smaller? Absolutely, but you can’t just pull four nations out of thin air without an actual reason, and if the war lasted up to 1917, that clearly means that the Germans were holding on.
"Babe wake up, LoganProductions posted"
Hoi4 alternative history lore is top tier
Alternate or non-occuring Spanish American wars are my favorite scenarios.
This is a hoi4 channel now
ah Yes Karl Liebschnekt 2:50
The Russian Empire actually being competent in WW1 is hilarious 😆
So you’re just going to ignore Brusilov Offensive
The only thing that's a bit weird to me is why would Russia support Turkey against Greece?
Idk but I think it's because Greece wanted the Turkish straits with Constantinople in their Megali Idea but in this scenario Russia occupied the straits so they would be pissed off against each other.
I think even if Austria collapsed early, Russia would still probably collapse. Maybe they would have more time to mobilize, but (although I could be wrong) they might still collapse. Also, I don’t think Hungary would stay United with Austria, as they were fighting for independence themselves.
The king at the time in the U.K. was related to Wilhelmas well so the U.K. wouldn’t be that angry
the new name of this video of what if Bolshevik Revolution ever happen
What's with the thumbnail of the UK and France frowning? You know they were Russia's *allies* in WW1?
What if youtube actually sent notifications?
Almost at 100k!
hey I'm a dev on this mod
Nice
Yo bro you’re doing a great job man I wish I could watch more videos But my UA-cam algorithm is not show me your videos
0:21 0:22 I laughed
2:29 troll
3:18 🤬🤬🤬
2:28 😂😂😂😂
Can you do a hoi4 mod called Millennium dawn where Germany lost ww1 and ww2!
Fucking wacky idk seems to unrealistic
2:50 *Carol Leebshnekt*
Ideologies of in the name of tsar?
Cover the upcoming HOI IV mod Red Dragon.
3:53 Nice a-pole-ogy
I remember playing around with this mod and *EVERYONE WENT COMMUNIST* XD
when merch drop my wallet is ready
0:57 1:19 2:11
“THANK YOU😄! Russia😐 HAS FREED US!”
What does guantamo bay have anything to do with this
Accidentally clicked here, like I was gonna watch it anyways but first I guess
Do one for EU4 Ante Bellum
Weltriech next pls
Belgium in 4:31 - 4:35
fuck this shit im out
Well Russia kind of did win a war
Yes, they won a war. So did the Central Powers. So did the Nazis. So did Technoblade.
But they didn’t win the Great War.
@@oracle372 🤮
@@oracle372 bro how did you make that comment so cringe so fast
for this to happen, russia would prob have to be stronger than in real life, maybe industrialized, and give the people more freedom
how do you make these videos
Haha This is Neat.
Love the Memes
Althis scenarios bother me. There are so many holes and things not taken in confederation. A good and logical example would be: If the French defeated the Prussians, there wouldn’t be a Berlin Congress, meaning that the Balkans would be split by Russia’s will.
What are you specifically referring to?
@@ЙованДобройевичь Russia Empire winning WW1 would be the best thing that ever happened no WW2, no Cold war France, Russia, USA and Britain would be the superpowers no communism taking over Europe would be at peace
@@JDDC-tq7qm I completely agree
@@JDDC-tq7qm Unless you were a socialist protester.
Famaliar melody at 1:10, maybe someone knows the name of this song, please
Exists a "what if italy won ww1"?
Whose the black guy in Austria-Hungary?
Triggered because of Russia-Ukraine conflict in comments? Nah
Triggered about misaligned Minecraft door in the video? *Yeah*
But Russia did win WW1.
No they didn’t. At no point during WW1 did Russia came close to winning
Minecraft door
Honestly I don’t like the russian federation government because they are trying to make a dictator ship (I just hate the government) but the russian empire may not have been to industrialized but the tsar is not cruel
Why? Do you not value democracy?
@@TFAltHisthe doesn’t value the current type of democracy
Why in every alternative universe where germany gets divided in modern times bavaria goes socialist/communist
Red is sus
@@auahahahahhaa3150 o h
@@odinthomas2634 can you please speak english
@@odinthomas2634 oh
You dont need to have shitty memes in your videos, feels like a pop-up ad
This scenario makes no sense what so ever
Hello
I like how unrealistic this is
meanwhile tno:
Didn't Russia alredy win ww1?
@hick No they just had more casuelties. That doesnt nessesaryly mean they lost.
@@andrejstevanovic9751 russia technically lost. they were forced to sign the brest-litovsk treaty
@@aaronexdee2024 Yes but in my history class it said they won...
@@andrejstevanovic9751 what the f### did you learned that
@@Romanovs-wh4ej In school.
*pushed out of Palestine
Based
*pushed out of the holy land
Yo
Ukraine 🇺🇦
Yea, Ukraine🇦🇴🇦🇴🇦🇴
Ukraine
That’s a good joke
Cry westoid
@@ЙованДобройевичь cry loser
@@siyacer your name is ironic
bad tl
Ukraine.
first
always wanted to do this first and last time
Your first congratulations 🎈🍾🎉🎊
You did it 💪