Took an installer 9 full hours to remove glued down sheet vinyl on a concrete slab in my lower bathroom from 1973. The method that worked "fastest" was to heat it up with a heat gun and then use a razor knife to cut it in to slits to make it easier to pull up, strip by strip. Glad I paid someone else to do that job!
Yeh. What i did was just put new style vinyl over the old ugly ones. Only took me 1 hour. Nobody has time to strip that crap inch by inch with a heat gun.
My bedroom hardwood floor was in similar shape, except for vinyl tiles - we had carpet glued on top of it. LOTS OF BLACK TAR GLUE. Rented a sander from homedepot (not the drum, the other one, forgot what it's called), took me 5 hours to make the floor all spotless.
The house im working on had the tiles have sticky tar-like glue stuck on the luan.. Got to rip up the luan and its nailed down.. Can not scrape without hitting a nail every 4 inches.. Making life a lot harder than it needs to be
I know what you mean. I have been busting my ass for 2 days trying to get mine up.I Have gotten no where.I am going to take my floor jack put it in the basement put a 2 by 4 on it and tear out the plywood
What if the plywood subfloor was nailed down? It's easy to rip up if you can gain access around the perimeter of the subfloor, but what about the corners, tight spaces, and closets?
@@mexicanchamp2282 And rusted nails that break off. OSB over heart pine and guess what, once I get it cleared, I'll put down good underlayment and new flooring? They covered mine for a reason.
I'm doing this now in our kitchen... complete crap show... this lady was lucky. Mine is half mortared over so I can't find the screws/nails in half of the floor, the rest of it is nailed/screwed every 3-6 inches (with really no patterning at all) which makes it super difficult to cut with a circular straw in a straight line without making sparks. After that, I have the pleasure of digging underneath it with a prybar with all of my might to take peices off.... basically took me 3 hours to remove a 5 x 2 foot strip. 90 more feet to go! lol
HelloImMrMarr You are soooo correct. Doing a small bathroom and when I saw how Tommy's came off I started yelling ... fake, fake. Sure wish the boys at TOH would start doing what most of us regular/unluckly WW's have to go throught. And note the costs of all their wonderfulness.
The part where he says the toe kick saw is not adjustable I have literally never saw a toe kick saw that didn't have the adjuster square behind the blade housing it's a plastic square you can rotate to change the depth of the slide which in fact changes the depth of the cut
Yeah. My linoleum was glued down in large sheets, which ripped and shredded when pulled up. It was glued to a thin plywood underlayment, but that was stapled to the subfloor with about a thousand staples, which had to be hammered down afterwards.
Lol. I know huh. But I definitely like getting ideas from this show because there’s so many new tools to help 👍🏻. I watched it with my Dad when Bob Villa was on. Read home improvement books to learn ! There wasn’t UA-cam, Lol.
I have 1/4 inch plywood under linoleum full sheet. Under the plywood there is hardwood. I think there is asbestos under linoleum but am not sure. What is the best way to remove it all? Anyone? Thanks
Will Chu asbestos is usually in the backing of the vinyl (like super stiff cardboard basically) and in the glue used to hold it down. You should definitely get it tested before proceeding.
wouldnt recommend it. I wouldnt last long if directly exposed to the elements. The glue would either fail or would be dangerous to walk on in excessive rain or snow. Its really just meant as a durable indoor floor thats easy to clean
I have some old rusty screws in my plywood subfloor. I am trying to plane the subfloor because part of it is uneven and not level. My problem is the rusted wood screws that are screwed into the subfloor. I am scared to just run over them with my planer, but I'm not sure now to go about removing them. Some of them are severely deteriorated. I may just try bashing them in with a hammer if all else fails. Any ideas anyone?
since it is a subfloor use an angle grinder to get the screw heads low and fill over the gouges with bondo. re-anchor the subfloor with drive screws and look for the reason they rusted in the first place. good luck
My 100 year old maple floors have way more glue and the underlayment screw heads all break off. I'm so wishing there's a way I can find a way down to the original floor
Yeah nobody told her that there could be water damage from prior. Gotta consider why the floor was covered up in the first place. Kitchens and hardwood floors are almost never a happy combo. Always some kind of water damage from something!
I will never understand why people covered up hard wood floors. my home has buetiful hard wood floors covered by carpet why. I'm planing on taking out that nasty carpets and refinishing the floor
I don't understand why people use carpets at all. They always get dirty and ugly. Hardwood is always better, with the exception of bathrooms and kitchens for which tiles are a better option though.
Many original wood floors were not hardwood, they are pine or fir, and were never meant to be seen. It's just how things were built before plywood existed. They can be sanded and finished but they scratch and dent easily.
linoleum was probably cheaper than to refinish it and they probably wanted a different look... people still do this but now they cover the hard wood with vinyl or mfd plank "wood look" boards.
People were tacky as hell back in the 1970s. That was the style back then to have an ugly house for some reason ?You should see some of the ugly crap ive seen in older houses
Was in home renovation for a long time. EPA put a ban on contractors pulling up asbestos backed flooring.10,000.00 fine. One job after they relaxed ban I made more money pulling up old flooring than installations. Their new rule was you couldnt remove dry you had to moisten the floor as it came up.
It's my understanding that the asbestos fibers are encapsulated in the other substances that make up the tile. They are not the dusty dry fibers that will float in the air and give you problems.
Never seen luon screwed down. And honey you gonna have a ton of screw holes that gonna show, even after filling. Stain and poly gonna bring those out bad
true but they like to showcase other tools as much as possible. Ive been a contractor for 5 years and never even heard of a toe kick saw so that was neat to see
@@jacksplumbingvideos7147 it’s not in the tile but I’m the old linoleum floor paper backer left on the floor from when it was removed. Possibly in the adhesive as well.
This is amazing and infuriating. Tommy has a tool for EVERYTHING! Incredible to watch.
thats smart using a board to get the right depth tom is a wizard
Nice to follow a good job done right when updating. Bless.
he rented the sawr
Love it
Took an installer 9 full hours to remove glued down sheet vinyl on a concrete slab in my lower bathroom from 1973. The method that worked "fastest" was to heat it up with a heat gun and then use a razor knife to cut it in to slits to make it easier to pull up, strip by strip.
Glad I paid someone else to do that job!
Yeh. What i did was just put new style vinyl over the old ugly ones. Only took me 1 hour. Nobody has time to strip that crap inch by inch with a heat gun.
@@JoHn-if6wy Lazy
@@wijoey710 its beautiful
Literally removing linoleum and luon and whoever put it on mist have had stock in two inch staples. Its insane.
I think the hardest part would be removing the glued over screws without stripping
Please make sure to test the mastic adhesive before sanding ...it could very well contain asbestos!
The flooring itself could have asbestos
I would love to have a beer with Rodger Tom and Richard
Oh the stories they could probably tell....
Never mind all the screw holes you will have to fill and will then see dots all over the place once the stain and urethane hit it
what if he floor underneath is no longer level? what do you do then? get new subfloor material and cover it all up again?
This guy is a pro!
His wife must reakly love him...he saves her money on remodeling 🤣🤣 I need a contractor in my family.
Would love to see how much work it takes to get this hardwood cleaned up and finished.
My bedroom hardwood floor was in similar shape, except for vinyl tiles - we had carpet glued on top of it. LOTS OF BLACK TAR GLUE. Rented a sander from homedepot (not the drum, the other one, forgot what it's called), took me 5 hours to make the floor all spotless.
A very , very long time lol
Алекс Галкин at least you got there, nicely done
@@algalkin do you have mesothelioma now?
@@pigup2 nope
Do you need to remove rhe subfloor if I have linoleum and replacing with enginwered hardwood?
Very handy sawr
Damn he almost took a chunk of her hand at 0:44 lol
Gave me the heebie-jeebies. Lol
The house im working on had the tiles have sticky tar-like glue stuck on the luan.. Got to rip up the luan and its nailed down.. Can not scrape without hitting a nail every 4 inches.. Making life a lot harder than it needs to be
I think mine was glued down with a glue Superman brought to earth. I needed to heat mine.
I know what you mean. I have been busting my ass for 2 days trying to get mine up.I Have gotten no where.I am going to take my floor jack put it in the basement put a 2 by 4 on it and tear out the plywood
What if the plywood subfloor was nailed down? It's easy to rip up if you can gain access around the perimeter of the subfloor, but what about the corners, tight spaces, and closets?
Yup mine's was nailed down with super old nails from the 50s
@@mexicanchamp2282 And rusted nails that break off. OSB over heart pine and guess what, once I get it cleared, I'll put down good underlayment and new flooring? They covered mine for a reason.
Mr Dan Handy man
Wish they showed the finished product. Good video though 👍
I've got video of what I found under my kitchen floor. I wasn't quite this lucky.
I'm doing this now in our kitchen... complete crap show... this lady was lucky. Mine is half mortared over so I can't find the screws/nails in half of the floor, the rest of it is nailed/screwed every 3-6 inches (with really no patterning at all) which makes it super difficult to cut with a circular straw in a straight line without making sparks. After that, I have the pleasure of digging underneath it with a prybar with all of my might to take peices off.... basically took me 3 hours to remove a 5 x 2 foot strip. 90 more feet to go! lol
HelloImMrMarr
You are soooo correct. Doing a small bathroom and when I saw how Tommy's came off I started yelling ... fake, fake. Sure wish the boys at TOH would start doing what most of us regular/unluckly WW's have to go throught. And note the costs of all their wonderfulness.
Tommy's a badass!
The part where he says the toe kick saw is not adjustable I have literally never saw a toe kick saw that didn't have the adjuster square behind the blade housing it's a plastic square you can rotate to change the depth of the slide which in fact changes the depth of the cut
Would of liked to see the finished floor
She got lucky, I've seen a lot worse.
These shows make it look so easy. I call BS. Nothing is this easy. Especially in my life! LOL
Yeah. My linoleum was glued down in large sheets, which ripped and shredded when pulled up. It was glued to a thin plywood underlayment, but that was stapled to the subfloor with about a thousand staples, which had to be hammered down afterwards.
Quit yer whinin'
Brian E I feel your pain but in my house was same but they used a bton of drywall screws instead of staples. I was hoping for more help here
Agreed
Lol. I know huh. But I definitely like getting ideas from this show because there’s so many new tools to help 👍🏻. I watched it with my Dad when Bob Villa was on. Read home improvement books to learn ! There wasn’t UA-cam, Lol.
no mention of asbestos. be careful with old flooring people.
I have 1/4 inch plywood under linoleum full sheet. Under the plywood there is hardwood. I think there is asbestos under linoleum but am not sure. What is the best way to remove it all? Anyone? Thanks
Will Chu asbestos is usually in the backing of the vinyl (like super stiff cardboard basically) and in the glue used to hold it down. You should definitely get it tested before proceeding.
Taylor Straton just started researching myself , it’s a time bomb in our community.
Why not switch out the blade for one that's 1/4 inch deep?
They don't make a blade smaller than what he currently has on
WTF were people thinking covering beautiful hardwood floors with carpet or vinyl titles?
They weren't
That guy choose the easy floor for demonstration. We need to see the tough back-breaking floors.
Can linoleum (not vinyl) be used outside?
wouldnt recommend it. I wouldnt last long if directly exposed to the elements. The glue would either fail or would be dangerous to walk on in excessive rain or snow. Its really just meant as a durable indoor floor thats easy to clean
Won't there be holes on the new floor
I have some old rusty screws in my plywood subfloor. I am trying to plane the subfloor because part of it is uneven and not level. My problem is the rusted wood screws that are screwed into the subfloor. I am scared to just run over them with my planer, but I'm not sure now to go about removing them. Some of them are severely deteriorated. I may just try bashing them in with a hammer if all else fails. Any ideas anyone?
since it is a subfloor use an angle grinder to get the screw heads low and fill over the gouges with bondo. re-anchor the subfloor with drive screws and look for the reason they rusted in the first place. good luck
Cover that floor back up again!
It pains me to know someone would put that ugly ass floor on top of that beautiful wood floor.
Trust me I’ve worked on a house that had wormy chestnut covered up by crap floors.
🤔But wait, was her kitchen floor blue? Wow 😮
How do you know if its the tile that has asbestos or not?
Test kit from home depot, Lowe's etc
the asbestos tiles tend to have a streaky pattern to them.
If it doesn't taste bad, it's free of asbestos
Thats looks like a nice kitchen why on earth didn't the floor get done then
I always wondered if the home owners just get in Tom's way and slow him down. Most of them can't even use tools
Obviously they do, but the whole point of the show is to show people how to do things.
Yes...but she is pretty foxy!
That saw sounds like an old ford model t.
I would watch a video of just someone sanding and re-staining the floors.
My vinyl is really glued down, what else can I do to remove it?
Just put your new vinyl over the old crap. You think people actually removes that crap lol
0:53 that’s what tommy is man, don’t work hard, work smart......
My 100 year old maple floors have way more glue and the underlayment screw heads all break off. I'm so wishing there's a way I can find a way down to the original floor
unrealistic, no floor comes up that easy.
Sometimes yeah. It's just vinyl and luon. Sometimes it's hard but sometimes not
Yeah nobody told her that there could be water damage from prior. Gotta consider why the floor was covered up in the first place.
Kitchens and hardwood floors are almost never a happy combo. Always some kind of water damage from something!
I will never understand why people covered up hard wood floors. my home has buetiful hard wood floors covered by carpet why. I'm planing on taking out that nasty carpets and refinishing the floor
I don't understand why people use carpets at all. They always get dirty and ugly. Hardwood is always better, with the exception of bathrooms and kitchens for which tiles are a better option though.
Many original wood floors were not hardwood, they are pine or fir, and were never meant to be seen. It's just how things were built before plywood existed. They can be sanded and finished but they scratch and dent easily.
why did people cover wood floors years ago? was it the thing to do?
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linoleum was probably cheaper than to refinish it and they probably wanted a different look... people still do this but now they cover the hard wood with vinyl or mfd plank "wood look" boards.
People were tacky as hell back in the 1970s. That was the style back then to have an ugly house for some reason ?You should see some of the ugly crap ive seen in older houses
I noticed that too, why did he call her that? thats so rude!
The same could be said when someone buys a house and they ruin the ceiling with that stuff that makes it bumpy
Tommy you teamed up with a hot piece this time
THAT OLD FLOOR WILL TAKE ALOT OF WORK..THATS WHY THEY COVERED IT UP
How to remove old vinyl on the hardwood floor
Did they check for asbestos
Yes. They sent it out to a laboratory and had it tested. You missed that part because it wasn't shown.
Was in home renovation for a long time. EPA put a ban on contractors pulling up asbestos backed flooring.10,000.00 fine. One job after they relaxed ban I made more money pulling up old flooring than installations. Their new rule was you couldnt remove dry you had to moisten the floor as it came up.
donnie brown where cAn you throw then out?
It's my understanding that the asbestos fibers are encapsulated in the other substances that make up the tile. They are not the dusty dry fibers that will float in the air and give you problems.
i wonder how he spells Roberta
Roberter
I wished they had screwed my underlayment down, instead they used hundreds of tiny staples, basically trashing the wood.
Never seen luon screwed down. And honey you gonna have a ton of screw holes that gonna show, even after filling. Stain and poly gonna bring those out bad
Why would anyone cover over beautiful REAL hardwood floors?? 😫😣😵
Sawr
Roberter
He rented a saw that had shot brushes - old sparky! Rental center should be shot.
What's a sar? ;)))))
The floor is now 3/8ths lower than in the other room but whatever thats fine i guess
lysergicheadcase If you noticed, the floor ramps up because of the plywood subfloor and vinyl tile. Now the floor should be level from room to room.
He could of used the multi tool the whole time
true but they like to showcase other tools as much as possible. Ive been a contractor for 5 years and never even heard of a toe kick saw so that was neat to see
yeah, i have that linoleum glued real well. and the subfloor isn't going to be that easy either
It’s a SAW, Tommy. Not a sar.
why not just take the cabinets out?
And
What's a sarrwa?😜😂
its something you cut a qwata inch plywood with i think ???
ha ha ha.
I can tell you from experience that all floors come up just like that. /s
That floor is f****in 1 week old lol, or whoever made it sucks.
Make it look too easy
Man....what was wrong with people covering wood like that? An entire generation making mistakes.
Let's wait to see what the next generation says about our "mistakes".
@@josephhinkle3454 Defintely gonna be the open floorplan.
people will be mad at us for knocking down walls.
B.V.
Aa
Holy asbestos
the tile they removed was a newer vinyl tile, probably made by armstrong or something.
@@jacksplumbingvideos7147 it’s not in the tile but I’m the old linoleum floor paper backer left on the floor from when it was removed. Possibly in the adhesive as well.
Yuck! Look at the gaps between the floor boards. I'd've left it as is!
Roberter
Dont try this at home............LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Aaaaaaa
That entire kitchen should be ripped out not just the floor, it’s so ugly
Did they check for asbestos
Do you mean check the underlayment for asbestos?
mike k the tile