How to Install Vinyl Plank Flooring | Ask This Old House
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2022
- In this video, Ask This Old House carpenter Nathan Gilbert helps a homeowner replace a dated vinyl kitchen floor with a more modern product, complete with an updated look.
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Carpenter Nathan Gilbert goes on a house call as he helps a homeowner dealing with a dated kitchen floor. After explaining to Kevin what goes into planning a floor, such as materials and subflooring, he heads to the home to lend a hand.
Skill: ⅖
Cost: Around $500, depending on floor size
Time: One day
Materials:
Tongue-and-groove vinyl floating floor material [thd.co/3H5bfQY]
Note: It's a good idea to let the new flooring acclimate to the humidity in your home. Open the packages and give the product a day or two to adjust before laying the floor.
Vinyl transition pieces [thd.co/3H2a1pP]
¼-inch spacers [amzn.to/3u7jDf4]
Construction adhesive [amzn.to/3tWV2d5]
Nails [thd.co/3rP9JMH]
Tools:
Utility knife [amzn.to/3qXZ82K]
Pry bar [amzn.to/3nSYzVZ]
Hammer [amzn.to/3qZD2Nd]
Dust mask [amzn.to/3AE5rLZ]
Safety glasses [amzn.to/3ICNujH]
Circular saw [amzn.to/3rT0H19]
Flooring cutter or miter saw with a finish blade [thd.co/3tVvLQt]
Rubber mallet [amzn.to/3IwFbG2]
Flooring tapping block [amzn.to/3AAst6n]
Flooring pull bar [amzn.to/3GdXgHD]
Jigsaw [amzn.to/3nYA3mi]
Nail gun [amzn.to/3IDupOw]
Caulking gun [amzn.to/3fXtlZo]
Where to find it?
Nathan installed Pergo [pergoflooring.com/] Defense+ 7.5 in. W Classic Weathered Pine Antimicrobial Click Lock Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring [thd.co/3H5bfQY] in a homeowner's kitchen. Nathan used Marshalltown [marshalltown.com/] 13-inch Flooring Shears [thd.co/3tVvLQt]. To account for expansion and contraction of the planks, Nathan used 1/4-inch flooring spacers [amzn.to/3u7jDf4] along the perimeter.
To remove the existing vinyl flooring, Nathan used a circular saw [amzn.to/3rT0H19] to cut the floor into 2'x2' squares, then removed the squares using a pry bar [amzn.to/3nSYzVZ] and hammer [amzn.to/3qZD2Nd], all of which is found at home centers.
William C. Gilbert Carpentry provided expert assistance with this segment.
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Jesus, that’s a mullet-and-handlebar combo for the ages!
That’s a man’s man right there!
It's good to still see people with some individuality, that dude is awesome.
Def want to drink a beer with him.
That haircut style is as old as the floor. Must’ve been watching the movie CONVOY in the barbers chair.
@@XX-166 🤣
Mike seems like the dream employee: hard worker, honest, doesn't question; just does the job and does it well.
A "dream" employee DOES question the norm. What you're describing is a sheep that blindly follows without thinking for itself. That's dangerous.
He's the next future TOH member.
@@MrFixItGa why you gotta roast the mullet like that man
@@AnthonyZbierajewskiI could definitely see that.
Great demo however the tapping block can sometimes damage the plank at the ends. Instead you can use an off cut piece as a tapping block just make sure it’s locked in 👌🏼👌🏼
When I saw the mullet thumbnail on the video I had to watch and it the floor looks good.
One of the most awesomely capable home owners I've ever seen on this channel...with one of the most confused looks on his face the entire time, hahaha.
bet the guy drives an IROC camaro.
Nathan’s great. Love watching him 👏
Crazy thing is just a few years ago he was one of the apprentices on TOH. Now he looks like a regular on ATOH. He is definitely getting better, I think his early stuff was pretty dry, but he’s getting better.
Haven't seen him before.
Flooring hype! Been doing this for years. Nice job and love the videos
I really enjoy Nathan Gilbert. He comes across as a nice guy and able to put his knowledge to good use.
Yes, makes me wonder if he will be Tom's replacement when he officially retires from the show.
That is one serious mullet. This video will go viral in no time, bro.
That’s not even close to a mullet, business in the front party in the back. His hair is not short in the front at all so no business. He has long hair and just shaved his side.
Nathen is a cool guy…..he will definitely keep this old house going!
Richard your spot on I think. Clear the room , including kick boards and end panels and all this gets refitted on top of the floor
F yeah mikes a true newenglenda’ with that mullet
I have that on my kitchen too. Very simple to install. I had the flexible vinyl that had overlapped glue strips for like 10 years that we loved but couldn't find it anywhere again. This flooring was our 2nd choice.
Traffic master commercial vinyl at home depot. Color khaki is most popular
Great demonstration but I wish they would add give more commentary on technique while demonstrating. I taught by talking in “stream of consciousness” while demonstrating and asked students to do the same back to me so I knew they understood what they needed to know. It’s the little techniques and reason for them that you might not pick up in a video but could get with more verbal explanation!
yeah, I wonder how they did go under that door trim shown at some point...
@@MariuszChr you put it in, in the open area of the doorway and tap it under the door trim
I wish they’d teach the way I teach so that it validates my teaching method
Agreed. After watching this I still have no idea how the pieces are joined along their sides and at the ends, nor what the function is of the flooring tools.
…or how do you know if you need to change the floor boards (?) underneath or it might sound silly…but… is there an adhesive or something on the down side of the vinyl or are they fit together simply by hammering them together? Both?
I have some of this flooring in my basement office. Very great look and durable. Best part is that it's easy to pop off and pop on a new piece if something is damaged because there's no glue or grout to mess with.
Sure but you cannot replace a piece in the middle out by itself :/
Business in the front party in the back. Awesome Mike.
This old house is amazing..
Great show for sure!
Same with tommy. He’s the man, would love to be like him one day. He’s the inspiration, I’ve always wanted to become a carpenter / I’m 15 years old and since I was about 3 I would be stealing my dads tools and trying to help him on jobs because he’s a carpenter aswell. I’ll leave school soon and become a carpenter, and Tommy inspires me more and more everyday to become a carpenter 🖤
Follow your dream!!!!🙂👍
I JUST did this last weekend - pulled the single sheet vinyl and luan; fixed the sub floor, then added in the foam and the vinyl planks on top - came out awesome. Worth the investment - thanks for the video gang.
well done; did you grow your mullet out too? ;)
Good job guy's. Turned out pretty good.
Yep, looked good.
Have never enjoyed a flooring video like I enjoyed this one. Two guys working, minimal talking.
We put a LOT of this down in our off-grid home. About as easy as putting in anything else but the wider ones, 12x24 size, seem to raise up more than the smaller size of around 6x36. Still looks great though.
Thanks for the tip about the larger size planks.
@@mozu517no problem. I wasn't to happy as it wasn't cheap.
Great job Nathan, but his mullet stole the show!
Should really mix the planks with different boxes so there's no noticeable difference when transitioning to a new box. Most companies have different print runs on the planks, so mixing planks from different boxes helps randomize the pattern. Like Nathan said about letting vinyl acclimate even though not totally necessary, best practice.
Any thoughts on how long it should be allowed to acclimate?
@@dang7368 common practice is 48 hrs placed in the room you plan to install
What do you mean by acclimate?
Cameron Poe on This Old House, now I've seen everything!
7:40 nice to see a pro have a nice gap/uneven floor with base molding... I had this due to the house and floor being super crooked/old.
New product (to me). Thanks for the info.
Business in the front. Party in the back. My kinda guy.
By tomorrow, all the top comments will be about this dude's glorious mullet
Sick mullet mustache combo!
This is a great product
Good job nate!
andrewc I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Is that Lawrence from "Office Space"!?! 🤣💕👍
F’in A man!
nah, he's out doing the drywall up there at the new mcdonald's
I tuned in for the magnificent mullet 🤙🏽
eliano I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Bro the mullet . . . 10 outta 10 LOL!
Sweet mullet!! 🤣
My man’s haircut is amazing
Mikes got that tradesman look down. Just missing a pair of pit viper shades.
That's a world class mullet.
Very helpful video
bryanbarrio I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
If you wash out as a middle reliever for the bahstan red sawhx, this is where you go.
If you're installing this over tile, do you need to worry about grout lines, which are sunk maybe 1/8" beneath the tile surface?
Quality mullet!
Dude still rocking a mullet in 2022! You da man!
unreal I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Thank you , Bless you :)
great video do you have a vidoe on how to install viny plank flooring over a concreat slab? for some one that has never installed flooring of any kind. I would like to install it in rooms with tile floor & others carpet all with a concreat slab underneth.
Basically the same process, once you demo the old floor you are ready to go. Just check for flatness, concrete slabs tend to curl at control joints and cracks, that sudden change of plane will telegraph as a line in the finished floor. Go around and check for any sharp humps or big dips and grind/ patch as necessary. If you have reason to believe the slab has excessive moisture content (mold/ mildew under current floor, moist concrete, efflorescence etc.) then go ahead and drop an rh probe or do a calcium chloride test to see what the moisture content is. Vinyl will be much more forgiving than hardwood as far as moisture goes, but you dont want condensation and mold forming under your floor. As far as the install it is the same process. If your flooring has pad attached like most lvp products then its just click and drop as shown in the video. If not then just install your pad and then install the lvp.
Pretty amazing that marketers were able to bring back the word *"vinyl"* by calling it *"luxury vinyl"*
To be fair, the product is vastly different than the vinyl from the 80s
It is luxurious compared to sheet vinyl
I said this when it first started coming out. It's marketing genius
JOE DIRT I LOVE YOU 😂
Do you have to worry about the refrigerator denting the floor when rolling it back?
Working on a rental where the only thing that survived was the vinyl plank. Had to throw out tons of carpet from a house where nobody took their shoes off.
I hate carpet so much! Gets disgusting, especially with pets. My grandma has green wool carpet that they put in during the ‘70s, and that has held up a lot better than my parents’ carpet that is 16 years old. And she has a farm too!
The exact same flooring in my room and some of the rest of my house
When are these guys available to come to my house?
Nice demonstration, but rather short on details. I have a 116 year old house, and there’s no way I’m gonna be able to install floor by following this video. I was hoping it might detail exactly how to stagger the planks, selecting the direction to lay down, measuring and cutting, etc.
There are tonnes of other step by step videos with detailed instructions around.
Don’t do vinyl
Step 1: move out of your ancient house
theres not alot of thinking to it. They left out a key point, dont follow a pattern. Whatever you cut off from one row will now be the first piece on your new row.
You lay flooring in the direction of the longest wall.
7:00 you can see what I mean by his left hand. The board is bending and the joint is visible. Speaking from experience, this is going to feel "springy" and like you're walking in holes all the time unless the sub floor was PERFECTLY flat and flawless. The material is so thin and flexible, you need to float the subfloor with self level or it's going to feel weird. you can see
I would like to see a video of it going on a wall
Questions - the video did not show Nathan determining if the floor after removing the old flooring was level. Also - didn't mention needing a blue subfloor. I've had this flooring installed in two rooms and both required to determine if the existing floor was level and if additional waterproofing was needed. Also - I've never seen baseboard ever come off that easy.
How did you cut it flush with the base cabinets to remove the floor?
Probably a toe kick saw or ocilating tool.
Good work but why would that vinyl floor of a different grain and color be suggested next to golden oak?
Agree. That’s what I noticed, too. The color floor they chose looks pretty bad against those cabinets and trim. Yeesh.
How do you keep the butt ends watertight? Important in a kitchen. Charles
What is the best engineered vinyl floor ?
WHAT A MULLET!!!
How in the world did he take a heavy half inch of flooring up and put down less than a quarter inch of flooring and the base board still lines up in its original spot? Plus if you had to take up all that flooring you would have had to cut around all the cabinets and afterwards would have had to add shoe molding. Something ain't adding up. I do this exact same flooring everyday at my job and have to take up old flooring occasionally. So I know the ends and outs. As far as taking up the old flooring we would have left it. Maybe we would have took up the vinyl but that's it. Either way Something doesn't make sense. I want to know how that base came out the same height when you took out a heavy half inch Maybe even 5/8s and put back a quarter inch and the base is back in the same position with no shoe molding???????
Good point on the old flooring underneath the cabinets
Yea, that was my first thought too. I figured he used an oscillating saw around the base cabs, but that baseboard sitting on at least 1/2” less high flooring just doesn’t add up.
it sits lower, you can see the paint line, will need to repaint the walls. As for the kitchen, likely used a multi tool or one of those toe kick saws and cut it flush, covered up when putting kicks back.
Would this work to remove slate tiles?
This made me realize I should have bought a flooring cutter.
At the beginning you mentioned there were no signs of asbestos when pulling up the floor. What would be signs that there was asbestos present when doing a flooring job?
9” x 9” individual tile squares would be one. I’m not sure but I think “sheet flooring” wouldn’t have it,
When Nathan cut up the old floor did that include did that include a the old subfloor also? It seemed like there was vinyl and a subfloor included. The new vinyl floor was on top of an old vinyl floor on top of an older subfloor?
They cut through 4 layers (vinyl+luan+vinyl+luan), leaving the original subfloor.
next project. How do you test for asbestos?
No one’s gonna talk about the amazing mullet?
As it is a floating floor how did you finish it against the kitchen end panels , surely there must be a gap there ?
We put trim down along all sides.
That’s what I would do , or remove the end panel and floor underneath it , cut end panel and refit. That way no trim required. Looks much better I think.
I couldn’t see any trim used in the video ?
That’s peters neighbor from office space!
Shouldn't the transition piece have been snapped into a channel that was glued/nailed into the floor? It looked like the transition strip had the part under it to either have plastic dowels inserted or to be clipped into a metal piece.
I have been looking at putting some in my craft room. But with all the individual pieces, is it water proof?
Yes it can be water proof, just make sure the product that you get is graded/specific to your needs. You will also need to seal the edges against wall to water proof.
@@sergioc5385 Can the planks still expand and contract OK?
@@mozu517 With vinyl you dont have worry about it, very minimal if any.
How they did it slid under both cabinets in the narrow space?
You only need to go in about 6" under the dishwasher so that you can't see the old floor so just one piece would hide it. In the stove and fridge area though I always go all the way back to the wall since these appliances get pulled out more and you don't want to pull it out and catch the floor, which might damage it.
@@Off-Grid I would go all the way in, home depot doesn't like to install dishwashers if the flooring isnt all the way in and i hate getting called out to install it bc they dont wanna put in a little effort.
and sorry, is it wooden board the floor base?
What did they do with the flooring under the cabinets? You didn’t remove them.
cut up to it, lay down new floor, put kicks back.
So the floor is floating but it’s tight around the kitchen cabinets, how is that going to work out when the stuff is going to expand and contract when the temperature changes?
That’s why they leave 1/4” gap around the walls
I agree ! There is no gap against the kitchen end panels so how does that work ?
@@skyline5354 I was talking about the cabinets, not about the walls. Obviously there is a gap around the wall perimeter as it should. But around the cabinets it’s stuck. ..i was expecting silly answers like these already when i wrote my comment. Normally you have to empty out the entire room, lay the floor, then put everything on top. That way the floor can shrink and expand underneath everything. Now the boards in between the cabinets will expand stuck, or a visible gap will appear when it shrinks.
They left a gap all the way around.
@@Engineer9736 you do not put cabinets and countertops on top of floating floors. The gap they left is sufficient
If you wanted to lay it in a herringbone pattern.. what percent more flooring would be needed?
You'd need specific herringbone flooring. Measure the area and add 10-15%
@@smurfman691/videos I already have the flooring.. guess herringbone isn't going to happen
You can't lay the planks in that pattern since they wouldn't hook together correctly, I looked at doing it a couple times with different products and it never worked.
I would like put in my kitchen but kitchen has tile is better remove and install the floor plank. Or on top
You can't fool me, that's Lawrence from Office Space.
MULLET! Yes!
I am surprised there is no need to fix (nail down) the last board to make sure the fit stays tight? Dont know about it thus surprising... without glue, why dont the boards move a bit after they are laid in - is their backing tacky or rubbery? Tx.
they do move a bit; that's the point, but they're all locked together so you wont notice.
its a floating floor, you don't nail or glue it down. same as laminate.
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Don’t lift up on your pry bar when removing baseboard. You will put a hole in your wall. Move it side to side.
You can also put a large putty knife against the wall to pry against. This will spread the pressure and keep from damaging the wall
voiceofraisin I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Can I get an amen for the luscious mullet on our flooring brother!?!?
mattmerritt I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Still waiting for this old house the movie…..no dust extraction when he cut the old floor?
Is there a specific name for the tool used in conjunction with the hammer to tap the floor planks tightly together? I assume a block of wood would work but if there is an actual tool for this that would make life easier I'd like to know.
Not sure of the specific name , but you'll find them in the flooring section at your home store.
A tapping block and a pull bar are must haves for installing LVP flooring, the pull bar is a necessity for tight spaces and against walls
the tools he used are basic low end ones-for lightweight shorter floors . for our 7’ x 9” flooring we had to upgrade to heavier tools including using an antique railroad mallet to pound (3#). the lightweight rubber mallets and hammers 20 oz and less had no effect on our planks.
may i know which country?
thanks
Y'know what Mike would do if he had a million dollars?
Two chicks.....
At the same time.
Business in the Front, Party in the Back!!!!
marcopepe I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Sweet mullet
flyerfan I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Curious, why do you pull out the dishwasher?
flooring should always go underneath the dishwasher.
Nice of them to show the hardest part, cutting the subfloor under the cabinet over hang/toe kick. Would have been nice to see what they used 🙄
purerockfury I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
I recently purchased a home with the ultimate "renters" linoleum with scratches and spills already built in! UGHH. Can't I install the plank flooring OVER the existing linoleum?
I don't see why not as long as its clean and flat.
1:40 air out the planks, even for vinyl
I had vinyl plank flooring installed in my kitchen and dinning room, the only problem is the guy rushed and didn't really know what he was doing, now I've got gaps.
Why vinyl over laminate boards?
Way more water and moisture resistant
Never put laminate in wet areas like a kitchen or bathroom. You'll be taking it up in a year or two.
Sorry, expansion gap for vinyl (plastic) floors? Are we sure about that?
Shoulda upgraded the baseboards & vents. Cheap upgrades.
Sheet vinyl is a lot easier and just as durable.
They skipped the part with the old flooring under the cabinets