Carbon Farming - The Next Lie
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2020
- Regenerative farming. Soil regeneration. Carbon sequestration. Carbon farming. Etc.
These all sound great. And carbon sequestration is great...if we are talking about nature's carbon sequestration.
The version being sold to the public defies every natural aspect of actual carbon sequestration, making it just another deception in the process of continuing to harm the planet for the profit of a few.
Storing carbon in the soil requires deep roots that are well established and are allowed to work over long periods of time. These roots require the assistance of microscopic organisms and fungi. Both the native plants with deep roots and the assisting fungi mentioned above don't exist in cattle grazed areas...BECAUSE OF THE CATTLE GRAZING!!!!!
Massive loads of excrement from the cattle suffocate the sensitive biological soil crusts that are essential to carbon sequestration. Wide hooves holding 1,400 lb animals trample the beginnings of life. On land that is already saturated with cattle manure the ranchers add even more manure and we're supposed to think this is a good thing because it's been packaged into a new phrase on a topic most people don't know anything about.
The annual, invasive plants that have replaced the native plants CAN'T SEQUESTER CARBON even if one were foolish enough to believe that more poop is what we need to combat a poop problem in the first place.
In this particular case when discussing the issue of excess carbon we are talking about the cattle excrement. So to battle this excessive carbon instead of removing the poop a new marketing campaign is launched to make poop farming sound like a solution. All while continuing to promote an industry that is largely responsible for destroying nature's system of actually dealing with carbon.
Imagine that you have a large wound that is bleeding profusely. The doctor recommends a solution of continuing to cut away at the wound with smaller knives rather than sewing up the wound and removing the knives. That's how ridiculous carbon farming is. But here are some pretty colored band aids that are too small to cover any of the wound if that makes you feel better.
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Anyone else notice that all the "cow people" commenting ignore the fact that this video is exposing a location that is claiming to be a model of carbon farming? They all say, "This location isn't carbon farming therefore the video is wrong." Actually, you're proving how correct the video is by solidifying that the farmers here are misleading the public.
Which farmer made the claim? She's right, no Regen Ag practising farmer is operating that land.
This video isn't exposing anything but this woman's ignorance of regenerative farming techniques.
The mistake you made was using the plural. You're taking one example and assuming that is how it is across the industry. You could find n=1 worst case scenarios and present ANY discipline as hypocritical. It's the 'she lied about X happening to her, ergo everyone else claiming X is lying' fallacy. Just because she doesn't know what she is talking about doesn't make regenerative farming any less imminently critical to the health of the planet.
Compare what the look and texture of those cows manure in the video to a cow pie on land in this method of cattle production. Just saying 🙂
That is plain and simple not a regenerative dairy, it's a commercial one that might be using a regenerative practice or two although I didn't see one. On a regenerative farm the cattle never just stay in one area for a day and most are moved twice a day, a fact that expert didn't even know. Massive cattle are also a no no in regenerative farming, a rf would have smaller breeds. That poop she hated so much does go deep into the soil by the hard working dung beetle which they did show quickly by accident with cow pie with holes in it. The best part was this expert pulled up a few sprigs if brand new grass and was just shocked it had a brand new root structure, how shocking. Prefect example of a know it all who has never stepped on a real regenerative farm.
This is a shame. You guys are ridiculous! You chose and used a farm with the worst practices to denigrate carbon farming, a concept that works. IT WORKS!!!
Brain dead man just think 🤔
Yes, ridiculous and misleading.. they should watch Gabe Brown and learn something.
So by the metric of the “green” religion, it was a good that the pioneers killed millions upon millions of native bison…? Also, it was a good that mastadon and other large herbivores died out 10,000 years ago in what is now Los Angeles county because, big herbivore poops equates with bad for the earth. Should we do the same now in Africa? They have large herbivore herds too. Always have. Hmmm….
Took the words right out out of my mouth. The worst example
Not necessarily the worst practices, most grazing pastures are only any good for that.
As someone who has been researching permaculture, holistic livestock management, carbon farming and regenerative ag for over ten years, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this farm follows none of the correct practices. It’s literally a CAFO. Now they may get paid through a carbon credit program, because most of the programs are idiotic, but they aren’t actually farming carbon or following the practice to do so…
I have been doing holistic management for five years now in the high desert of NV and I can tell you that it definitely works. My ranch went from growing green grass, mostly annual and invasive cheatgrass, for about two to three weeks on spring every year, to now being covered in about 30% native perennials, and increasing, and we now have green grass for about two and a half months in spring and a month and a half in fall. Every year since the second year it’s gotten better, I can raise twice as many cows on it as I could when I started, next year is likely going to be even better, the light brown desert soil that I started with is getting progressively darker, the grass is growing in thicker and taller and the bare spots have all disappeared and are now covered in grass, wild mustard or hawks beard and there’s no dust or soil blowing off my property even with 60mph winds…
Videos like these are made to mislead people or the creator is just so ignorant that it’s like listening to a two year old trying to show you how quantum physics works. Not to mention calling this farm regenerative or carbon farming is like calling a watermelon a football… “tHeY’rE bOtH tHe SaMe ShApE aNd SoMeOnE sAiD iTs A fOoTbAlL. Durrr hurrr hurr!”…
What you miss on this message is regen ag holistic management replaces wild succession. The first chapter of Permaculture A Designers' Manual has a three part depiction starting with a farm, transitioning to beyond regen ag, finalizing on forests and gardens.
Wild succession is what built the biological structures on this planet and now we might have ended it.
In that case it was poorly presented and argued overall.
@@RickLarsonPermacultureDesignerwhat you missing is the, in regen farming they are letting the fields rest for a year or two before letting the cows back in. There not planting anything. They are letting the seeds already in the ground germinate and sprout. They are letting the wild plants grow
@@Noneyabiz001 Ok. I'm more into a designed natural succession with climax forests as the goal.
What you're seeing is NOT carbon farming. you're seeing a CAFO finishing their livestock on grass or traditional dairy operation. A true "carbon farmer" would be grazing the cattle on open pasture.
On a well-managed regenerative farm (see Joel Salatin in VA for an example), grass would be tall, with a diverse mix of perennial and annual grasses, clovers, etc. And a farmer would systematically move the herd from paddock to paddock, returning only AFTER the paddock has grown back. This regenerates the grassland and does sequester carbon. It mimics what bison used to do in the USA, but using cattle.
You just proved my point above. This video shows that the place is not carbon farming and you think you're making a good point by stating that the video isn't showing carbon farming. Brilliant.
The farm showed in this video does not seem to be practicing any regenerative farming practices so it’s not correct to say “look at this farm... do you see how regenerative farming is bogus?”. Look at Gabe Brown and the work he’s doing in the west. How do you think the plains evolved to have those deep soils and plant diversity...High intensity short duration grazing by Buffalo.
Stupid comment. This farm claims to be using them. This video is about that farm. Stop talking about other things.
@@michellemontova7979 Yes this farms claims correct regenerative grazing but their are not doing it correct, intense rotation is necessary, you do not have the experience to debate or speak intelligently about the subject.
@@michellemontova7979 no. When you label a video "carbon farming - the next big lie" then continue to put forward absolutely bullshit arguments against the whole carbon farming industry based off a single producer who is clearly not doing it properly if at all when there are hundreds if not thousands of great examples and proven benefits then you loose the right to comment that he's only talking about this one example.
Umm, this ranch IS making that claim. That's the entire point of featuring this ranches. It's supposed to be a great example of what to do thus it is a perfect example to use.
@@WatchingHumans you claim that all carbon farming is a lie...... You are the only liar here, and by going through your whole social media its clear you don't like reality. The point of your video was to ban any sort of grazing even though there are thousands of examples of carbon farming practices that work and thousands of scholarly articles proving it does.
I suggest anyone reading this to look into it for themselves and while they're at it look into "watching humans" to see for themselves that he's just an extreme vegan who made this to be more emotionally negative about grazing than to provide any sort of factual evidence about the overwhelming positive practice carbon farming has been and will hopefully continue to be. Especially when compared to past practices.
Watching his videos is like going to a political rally (left or right) and expecting a non bias conversation.
There was a "sea" of bison in North America before Europeans arrived. They did not trample the soils, because they were eating in an area, shitting/pissing and then moving on, allowing the environment to recover. Regenerative farming copies this, as opposed to conventional cattle ranches.
well the migrate until humans came!
This video is so destructive. I wonder what the motivation is . The ignorance is overwhelming
They totally missed the mark on what regenerative farming is; regenerative farmers do NOT spread manure. So many other untruths in this video to address....
Agreed
Agree.
I've actually worked on a regenerative agriculture farm and I've seen the soil improve. It just is a lot of work to do intensive rotational grazing. Maybe you don't realize that it's quite a big difference to only let the herd graze to HALF the height of the grass.
This video is making a lot of errors all over the place. It's beyond her wrong assumptions regarding regenerative farming and ranching. Her credentials are in serious doubt. Noticed she ignored bison, for example. She says cattle are 'designed to stay in one pasture' is another. Mycorrhyzae are forest and savannah based, whereas grasses are bacteria based. It is the carbon from the roots themselves that die off and are forced to regenerate. Overgrazing to a pasture of 'nubs' seriously injures the grass are greatly. This in turn reduces overall production of grass. Doing carbon farming right means the grass produces a lot more feed than intensive long term grazing on a pasture. Also, smart farmers do sequential, beneficial grazing that further enhances recovery, such as running chickens to break up cow patties, and sheep to eat forbes, etc. Many are turning their grass pastures into savannahs because trees reduces stresses on both livestock and grasses and promotes greater outputs in both.
This video is so wrong. Think she is a city person...
I have mostly known only rotational grazing on native grasses since the 1970's. This whole area was not destroyed since she was able to find the native environment intact. There are too many areas where the native ground is gone or narrowly there. Some of her information is correct, but misplaced. That tall grass she showed is great for holding soil and should not be gotten rid of. But, nothing on earth will graze that hard fiber.
This video made me laugh so much. They really have no idea about regenerative farming 😂😂😂
That's right! so how many more deadshits are out there doing the same stupid thing in a last ditched effort to make meat relevent?
Well she is correct actually the old virgin forest that are not touched like these pasture lands.
Talk about stupid I’m an organic farmer city people just shut up
@@organiccleanfoodconnection what makes you organic?
@@imranismail3264 Great question :-) I only feed my plants plants and weeds. Compost tea‘s Leaf mold with fermented plant juice. I inject it directly to the irrigation drip tape. I look how the forest grows and do my best to copy it. This year we will be planting several food forests. We need to learn we’re not growing food we are growing living soil biological life. People everywhere have sickness of the gut. The good and bad bacteria is out of balance. Just like the soil. we have so much to learn about soil. I have four 100 foot garden Beds. We prepared with animal products 2 with plants. It should be an interesting experiment. I do understand big business will ruin the word organic. Their greed always destroys. If it’s not in nature I try not to use it. I do not believe in sugars and salts. A lot of my organic growing friends do. There’s no salt shaker in the forest.
There are farms with questionable practices where this is actually an issue but it doesn't have to be. Proper pasture rotation and good pasture care eliminates soil compaction and allows grassland stay nice and healthy without the need of ploughing or even reseeding.
And nice and healthy grass doesn't always have deep roots, in fact most grasses used for grazing or cowfeed don't have deep roots at all but instead have a wide root network. Roots arn't the only thing keeping the soil heathy and loose. Insect, worms and bacteria are just as important.
Now these bacteria and insects feed on organic material in the soil and create nutrients that the plant uses to grow. A lot of these nutrients end up in the plant, the cow eats these plants and uses a bit of these nutrients. The unused nutrients end up in? You guessed it: manure. Manure is therefor a wonderful way of putting those nutrients back in the soil. But manure has another benefit, especially it's solid form. Manure contains organic material, this will feed the bacteria and insects in the soil. These bacteria and insects keep the soil healthy and produce nutrients for the plant. And that keeps going round and round. Manure isn't waste, it's food for the soil.
Now of course there is some precision involved in all this, you can't just throw some manure on bare ground and expect stuff to grow, and that's where a lot of farms fail at the moment. However the technology to do it properly is already availabe and is used more and more everyday.
Precision farming and good agricultural education is the key to a steady and sustainable food production.
These kind of videos where only half a story is told to make the wrong point works against this.
That's very much the point of this video - this is supposed to be the best of the best. I could go pick on some nightmarish factory ranch like harris Ranch in the valley, but that wouldn't be very compelling would it? Examining a ranch that is supposed to be a model for sustainability and good practices, like this one, was the point.
@@WatchingHumans The ranch you examine may claim to be carbon farming, but clearly they are not. They don't appear to be following any regenerative principles. the pasture clearly is over grazed. and they are using feed lots. Exactly the opposite of regenerative practices. It would be a good idea to do a follow up video at a farm that actually practices regenerative agriculture and compare it to a neighboring farm that follows "conventional practices". Before you do a follow up you probably should research exactly what regenerative agriculture is, that way you wont have the wool pulled over your eyes again. BTW you "ecologist" stated that elk weigh 400 lbs. Once fully grown, a bull elk averages 5 feet tall at the shoulders and can weigh between 700 and 1100 pounds. Female elk, known as cows, weigh between 500 and 600 pounds, and stand an average of 4.5 feet at shoulder height. You may want to examine her credentials. I apricate your efforts, but more background research before publishing this video would have been very worthwhile. Comparing a pasture to shoreline makes as much sense as comparing a desert to a rain forest..
Most regenerative farms don’t use manure. They use compost and/or cover crops. This lady is either living next to someone who’s doing it wrong or doesn’t know what she’s talking about
"Most"? Exactly how many is most and which ones are you referring to? No numbers, no evidence, and the exact opposite of what this video shows with visual proof. Oh, and what does compost largely consist of? Manure.
Next idiot please.
They are not managing the cows correctly
She's talking about the place she's currently in, duh.
Watching Humans anyone who believes that this video represents proof is ill informed.
Riiighht. They just release the cattle into the fields and the cattle don’t poop. No manure. Very well trained cattle! Thanks for enlightening us!
The whole idea of rotational grazing rather than having cattle sit in a single pen is that they can eat the grasses before they die and smother the new growth, which would cause the type of damage she’s saying manure causes, the only difference is that manure is much more compact than grass therefore can allow large areas of grass to be free to grow back and only small areas get smothered, rather than large areas getting smothered, thats really just one small facet of the explanation as to why rotational grazing is better than stagnant grazing or having no livestock on an area, but theres much more to it and its the one you guys seemed to focus on
You are the prime example of todays society. So passionate into their topic that they ironically become no better than the worst of the ignorance that is oftentimes blamed to cause the original issue. It is your responsibility to fight and be aware of your own bias and do equal (if not more) in depth research to the very thing you oppose. Dont let your mind wander down the path of least resistance.
You cow people might be the dumbest people in existence while telling the world how great you are.
Real Carbon farming requires more pasture rotation (less intensive practices) and non dairy ranching does not produce silos of slurry. So that is not Carbon farming, that sounds like intensive farming greenwashing itself.
I had hoped for a cogent counterpoint to help me understand the opposing perspective to mine- but it's certainly not. This woman is not describing regenerative agriculture, and has no idea what she is talking about. My only question is whether this is deliberately disingenuous and deceitful, or if this poster for some reason believes it is acceptable to make inflammatory posts on topics that they are clearly completely ignorant of.
Carbon farming en regenerative agriculture have already proven themselfs. If done correctly the soil will restore and provide al the nutrients the plant need to grow.
"regenerative grazing," whose claimed eco-benefits many scientists have called unscientific, dishonest, and a form of greenwashing.
Environment and agriculture researcher and author Nicholas Carter has co-authored an article unpacking Kiss the Ground's grazing misinformation, and the claims of regenerative grazers generally: www.plantbasednews.org/opinion/kiss-the-earth-last-ditch-effort-keep-meat-relevant
He has also done a podcast episode responding to the film's grazing assertions: bit.ly/kiss-the-ground
and has a helpful twitter thread discussing these points: twitter.com/NicholasDCarter/status/1309909886910824449
And here's what Tara Garnett, the lead author of a major Oxford study on regenerative grazing, called Grazed and Confused, says about these claims:
“[G]razing livestock - even in a best-case scenario - are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock. Good grazing management cannot offset its own emissions, let alone those arising from other systems of animal production.
What’s more, soils being farmed using a new system of management, such as grazing, reach carbon equilibrium, where the carbon that flows into soils equal carbon flows out, within a few decades. This means that any benefits from grass-fed cows are time-limited, while the problems of methane and other gases continue for as long as the livestock remain on the land. Plus, a change in management or climate - or even a drought - can overturn any gains.
As for methane, the argument that its impact is temporary and so not important is flawed. While the warming effect of any given pulse of methane is temporary, the total warming impacts will continue for as long as the source of methane continues. Methane will be emitted and continue to warm the planet as long as cattle are still reared. The problem only disappears if ruminant production is abandoned.”
Yes, they're definitely not cruising Salatin's fields. This a very misinformed video.
@@WatchingHumans whu do you persist in selective reading/hearing. This video is the only thing full of absolute bullshit... and providing a few negative articles doesn't change that.
There are hundreds of scholarly papers on the benefits of carbon farming if done correct. Here is just one of many many many pro study comments about it.
Toensmeier, E., 2016. The carbon farming solution: A global toolkit of perennial crops and regenerative agriculture practices for climate change mitigation and food security. Chelsea Green Publishing.
"specifically, the subset of practices known as" carbon farming"--can, and should be, a linchpin of a global climate solutions platform. Carbon farming is a suite of agricultural practices and crops that sequester carbon in the soil and in above-ground biomass. Combined with a massive reduction in fossil fuel emissions--and in concert with adaptation strategies to our changing environment--carbon farming has the potential to bring us back from the brink of disaster and return our atmosphere to the" magic number" of 350 parts per million of carbon dioxide."
@@WatchingHumans Wow, just copy-pasting your own comment doesn't make your lousy argument better.
I am a regenerative farmer. I farm cattle, and have a large diverse population of native and feral animals that all are regularly moved between paddocks or excluded from areas of the farm to allow regeneration of beneficial plants, stop the overgrazing of wildlife and cattle on preferred plant species and minimize the return of invasive weeds. My farm has a mixture of native and introduced plant species. They grow in harmony with each other. My native and introduced plant roots are now penetrating my soil to 2m in the areas we are actively regenerating and I am building soil at a rate of 1-3 cm a month. We have more rain, stored water, and more biomass than all of our neighbours who farm using traditional methods - no matter the season. In degenerated areas of the farm where we haven't started assisting nature to repair the ecosystems most of the roots are 2-3cm long where there isnt a hard clay pan or worse the topsoil has been eroded away leaving rocks. The natural ecosystems have not been able to repair themselves when left alone.
Just get your facts straight. And yes there are multiple scientific studies backing up my methods and my story is one of many across the world.
you're a planet killer
carbon farming is not only about using manure, do your homework
Please enlighten us
@@WatchingHumans it's about changing the agricultural land management so as to increase the soil carbon, there're many ways to do so (afforestation, tillage management, cover/ perennial crops etc.), check this link www.carboncycle.org/carbon-farming/
@@jinsongyang836 Thanks for condemning yourself. Land already saturated in carbon doesn't need an increase in carbon. But since you've researched Point Reyes so well please show your footage of carbon farming being "properly applied"
@@WatchingHumans To make a general statement about regenerative grazing practices being a lie based on point reyes is myopic and biased, there is both practical and scientific evidence that traditional cattle ranching with continuous grazing, high inputs, and feedlots who have depleted eroded soils have greatly benefited the ecosystem where cattle will be present, you will never get rid of beef, so you do not recommend that people graze more responsibly working more with nature? Your absolutist argument makes your opinion week and discredited.
@@WatchingHumans So then just talk about point reyes specifically, and not rotational grazing and carbon regeneration in designated cattle producing operations. To make a general statement about regenerative grazing practices being a lie based on point reyes is myopic and biased, there is both practical and scientific evidence that traditional cattle ranching with continuous grazing, high inputs, and feedlots that have depleted and eroded soils have greatly benefited in building improved ecosystems where cattle will be present, you will never get rid of beef, so do you not recommend that people graze more responsibly working more with nature? Your absolutist argument and generalization makes your opinion weak and discredited.
People are never going to see eye-to-eye on things but lets be serious for a second. If we have farmers willing to change their practices to improve carbon for our soils, provide livestock a better life, and get away from spraying chemicals we should all be in support. If you find an area that needs to be corrected instead of completely saying the practice is wrong, offer suggestions that will make it better. We do not need to live in a society where you are either right or wrong.
You’re looping two very different systems together. Regen ag doesn’t move feed or manure. Animals graze naturally and move naturally. There are no manure spreaders, or slurry ponds, or runoff, or dead zones on a regen operation. Watch some Greg Judy videos and get educated. Or just eat bugs.
Is this intentionally skewed ? This describes a problem, not regenerative farming.
What about carbon sequestration that uses native, perennial grasses and a rotational grazing system to ensure minimum bare spots and trampling? Regenerative ranchers have thought of the problems you describe. We structure our pastures in a way to promote the most biodiversity and perennials with rich soil microorganisms and fungi. Don’t paint regenerative agriculture all as factory farmers. If you are going to make a video on this, please look at all the methods and do in-depth research, it’s a very complex subject.
first of all this video is about this location. If YOU want to talk about other locations that put your comments on videos about those locations.
Next ,domesticated cattle and soil crusts don't exist together. Native perennials and domesticated cattle do not exist together. Your "structuring of pastures" translates to getting the cattle away from an area before they destroy everything, which means you know in your heart that the only way any native plants or microorganisms manage to survive at all is through human intervention - YOU preventing your cows from doing what they would do if you didn't step in.
@@WatchingHumans What exists with domestic cattle is purely dependent on the farming practices... because they are domesticated. They do not control what we plant our pastures with. And in terms of moving them, we are just simulating what all species of bovine do in large scale ecosystems: grazing and moving. Farms are usually not as big as an entire ecosystem so of course we have to step in and section small areas for them to graze on each day and then move them to new pasture, giving the paddock behind them a rest. We are just simulating nature on a smaller scale. If domestic cattle were put into the Great Plains with predators such as wolves to keep them packed densely together and moving, then they would basically take over the bison’s niche. Domestic cattle are not inherently destructive, they are just conventionally managed in a destructive way. That is why I offered an alternative.
native perennial grasses and cattle don't mix and therefore do not exist together in modern times. Thanks to greedy ranchers for wiping it all out.
@@michellemontova7979 Uh they definitely do. My pastures are dominated by gamma grasses and bluestem with some Indian grass and fescue in the mix.
@@WatchingHumans I think this guy is doing great with regenerative farming. You can watch his videos and see the difference with his land before to now and from the neighbours during a really bad drought in Sweden. ua-cam.com/video/ciHe_1wTHfA/v-deo.html
Bare ground and over grazing is considered a poor management practice in grazing management, so don't take the worse things farmers do and say that all livestock or ranchers would produce the same effect. Also, he mentioned how "annual" invasive species don't store carbon. One, I'm not sure about that, but not all farmers are only spreading annuals, a lot are spreading perennials which come back year after year and i would assume store soil. There is data that shows a stronger grassland, grazed not continuously, holds more carbon in the soil.
ua-cam.com/video/Qu0HZ5wSqKA/v-deo.html this explains the carbon sequestration
1.5 times the amount of carbon that a forest can store.
Usually better not to use fresh manure. It will pass a degrading process in the soil and using much nitrogen. Fresh manure could also develop some bacterias may not good for the crops. That's why need to make compost. I am sure you will learn more.
You are correct about the inappropriate use of cattle manure on these type of lands as being damaging.
But that is not carbon farming.
Spreading slurry on pasture is current practice, not something carobon farming advocates encourage.
In fact, carbon farming would be to replace that practice with more sustainable and regenerative practices.
Carbon farming is using practices like permaculture, holistic grazing, compost and compost tea applications, regenerative agriculture, mixed green manure crops and a host of other practices to increase soil organic matter and reduce artificial inputs.
That would free up lands such as the ones above that you describe to be kept as reserves for native animals and ecosystems.
This is partially the motivation of the video. They have simply taken the popular term "carbon farming" and told the public that's what they are doing, when in fact they are just distributing their excess manure.
I thought that carbon farming was about planting trees on paddocks!
@@WatchingHumans you seem to be slow. Animals shitting on the ground over millions of years is how bare rocks turned into rich soil. Cows sequester carbon, you clown
@@algae_rhythms Holistic forestry is part of it
Go visit a real regenerate agriculture farm. Not some dairy farm that has no idea of regenerate farming.
Um, first of all, this place is supposed to be the best of the best, so you just proved his point by stating they have no idea what they are doing. Next, YOU go visit a real regenerative farm and make a documentary of the proof. You don't get to just make stupid claims when someone else already proved their point.
@@michellemontova7979 Ridgedale Permaculture Farm in Sweden would be a very good example of a regenerative agriculture farm with videos in youtube as proof.
@@michellemontova7979 ua-cam.com/video/ciHe_1wTHfA/v-deo.html
@@michellemontova7979 there is also some amazing regenerate farms in Australia
@@michellemontova7979 You and Watching Humans are throwing around 'dumb' and 'stupid' and 'proof' a lot. All very unsubstantiated.
Out of curiosity, how do you propose we get dairy and red meat? I am open to hearing your ideas on that. If the target of this video is this specific farm, I'm all for it. This specific farm just looks like a normal grass fed cow operation. Nothing about it is sequestering carbon. however, rotating cows, which compact soil, with animals (such as chickens) or crops (such as rhizomes) that de compact soil, would make the system work much better to allow more useful plants to form a denser root layer.
The manure problem you brought up is a very important point. My permaculture teacher put it this way: "the difference between permaculture and conventional farming is the intentional movement of organic matter from one place to another." In nature, the population density of bovine is low enough that their effect on the soil with their weight and manure is minimal. Unless we farm cows how they are farmed in much of the federal land out west, which is somewhat close to how bison were living there before, then there needs to be something done to accommodate a higher density of bovine. Manure would not be much of a problem in a forest system where the ground layer is mostly decaying organic matter anyway, but anything else, it ought to be physically moved and consolidated to smother a much smaller area and break down much faster to it's more useful form, compost.
By the way, for "carbon farming", I would advocate placing a much greater emphasis on tree crops than livestock. Out of the selections of livestock, I would place a greater emphasis on chickens and goats than any bovine, even native bovine. I'd probably favor a Dexter or miniature breed of cow if cows were to be used at all. Big enough to be worth harvesting, and small enough to be feasible on a smaller scale operation. Plus, there would be less compaction.
I don't personally recommend either of those, and that's coming from someone who used to consume them. But this video isn't about what you personally choose to eat, it's about one of the false arguments used to promote an industry....focusing on one detail per video. There are a ton of food choice videos out there to debate meat and dairy on. Stating that you desire to continue to eat red meat and dairy does not change the reality check this video provided.
This video needs to be taken with a huge huge huge huge grain of salt! Especially considering he changes his tune regularly, if you read other comments you'll find that he says its only about this one farm yet in the above comment he states that it's the industry as a whole and that's how the video is also presented (prime example is the title)....
There are thousands of examples of carbon farming that works and hundreds of scholarly articles proving it. The farm shown in this video is clearly not undertaking proper carbon farming practices and should be punished as such. Majority of modern grazing farmers acknowledge the past gap in knowledge about proper and sustainable grazing methods and realise that its not only good for the environment but also their bottom like to take carbon farming serious.
Much of it is about shorter intensive grazing periods with livestock only in areas for limited periods of time (a few days) with very long breaks which makes pretty much all the arguments in this video null and void. This is achieved in many areas by hotwiring - a method of using a single electric wire that can be easily and quickly moved to ensure the livestock don't graze in one area for too long, promoting strong roots and continual flora growth.
Also interesting that he says that this video isn't about changing oppinons about eating meat, I suggest you go through his social media such Facebook, insta etc because he is clearly an extreme vegan and is obviously scared that people who don't eat meat because of the carbon effect may now change their oppions if there are practices that can combat that.
Side note: unlike him I honestly don't care if you eat meat or not. It's clear by the amount of vegetarian around that meat isn't a necessity if done properly. Just don't base your decision of this bs video. 👍
You are also correct in saying that forest regrowth can have a larger effect (bit different in areas that have been historically grass plains but overall correct). One of the great things about correct carbon farming methods with shorter grazing periods is that farmers can actually graze throughout the year because the previous issue (like the "carbon farm" used in this video) was that because animals were on the land all year it would reduce feed and take extended periods to grow back meaning they would have to destock.
As a result of the overall increased grazing time throughout the year due to continual movement the result has been a huge positive on farmers doing the right thing with increased production. Along with carbon credits achieved through replanting practices it has incentivised some farmers to replant areas with native trees to earn more.
Also carbon farming has incentivesed companies such as greening aus to purchase 330,000 hectare for plantation of trees along with grazing.
All things that watching humans doesn't want you to know about.
Finally I reiterate, eat what you want! and if it's animal ethical reasons so be it. However 90% of what "watching humans" says about carbon farming is based off his own animal ethics reasons and most of his links if you follow them are by people who again are doing it more so for animal ethics reasons than realistic factual carbon decreasing methods.
This is full of disinformation to the point she doesn't even know what carbon sequestration is, the concept is that you graze the cattle in a spot for some time but cattle like to eat the top of the grass first so you move them before they eat the hole plant that way it like mowing the yard the grass doesn't die it was just mowed so the proces of inserting carbon in the ground is by the plant keeping on photosynthesizing it ceeps on inserting carbon and acumulating it in the ground, know she pulls out a little peace of grass, thats not a fully grown grass it's pretty week and the plant that she pont out that has hundreds of years, I don't know if the means that grass has survived for that long or the species but here in Mexico a lot of grass grows in bundles like that and guess what? It dies every dry season and the seeds grow back when the rain comes it's not an eternal grass like she makes it seem at least thats what I get from that.
She seas that the sreading manure is what introduces carbon, nooo thats to help the grass get nutrients and I have experienced it whit my own eyes, know cows do get that diarrhea but it's when al there food es wet (green fresh grass) when the grass starts drying later in the seasons that stops and they poo normaly. Another thing moss don't have roots, they have something kind of similar but it not called a root and does not go 15 ft deep at least on what I have read. Again Carbon sequestration in grazing is basically letting the cattle graze but not kill que grass plant entirely just mowing it that permites te plant to keep producing photosynthesis and taking carbon frome the ATMOSPHERE and introducing it in the soil.
This isn't carbon sequestration this is nitrogen dumping. You're creating dead zones. Regenerative agriculture and carbon sequestration is permaculture. Roots, fungi, trees. Letting those roots remain and planting more trees. Trees as well as grasses and other plants. So much more too
" Ignorance is bliss ! " Cypher on returning to the Matrix
What about buffalo that once roamed? did their trampling damage the root systems? there are grazing methods that can be practiced that mimic buffalo herds on a smaller scale..
Also, I thought carbon farming was supposed to be used with compost... it is clear these farmers are not making any decisions based on carbon sequestration.
You're making a very dumb statement while thinking you're making a good one. Bison aren't cattle, the don't behave like cattle, they don't graze like cattle, and California, where these ranches are, didn't even have cattle. BTW, cattle are still being killed by BLM to make room for more cattle ranching.
@@WatchingHumans You are running away here. Bissons are bovines. If you are worry about trampling on the grass and grazing, the thought about hundreds of millions of bissons moving around didn't ruin anything. 🔳 There's a tendency for people who are anti-Z, to try and demolish X & Y to reach Z. For example someone who's invested in animal welfare, and hate the practices of industrial farming, to have his favourite action in combating climate change is to target any reforms in farming. Because that may cement our consumption of animals. 🔳 I feel like you are invested in something, and Reg Farming may hurt your cause. Hence why the video is bias against "carbon farming".
@@WatchingHumans Bison are so much like cattle that they interbreed in the wild with viable offspring that look like bison. In fact virtually all Bison in the US have DNA from domesticated cattle. They fill the exact same ecological nitch when cattle are used effectively. I think it is you that is lacking in knowledge.
Not a Clue, but probably putting up more arguments in favour FOR Regen Farming than not. The area looks like a Nature Reserve and should be left as such.
OK, but what alternative is being proposed? Depopulation? More people eating mostly plants? More free range grazing? The massive herds of Bison that once occupied North America supported the dense prairie grasslands by pooping and aerating the soil with their hooves as they meandered to new pastures, yes or not?
Im so thankful for all the educated commenters on carbon, regenerative farming. We all need to just show them as farmers that are passionate about healthy natural regenerative practices.
I do agree on grasslands have some of the highest amounts of carbon sequestered in the soil. But that does not mean that carbon farming is one big scam. For example, I live in the Netherlands, where most soils have been agricultural land for many decades. Adding compost to the soil actually increases the amount of sequestered carbon, with many other benefits. Explain to me if you think I am wrong here, but overall carbon farming is really necessary for some places.
This land doesn’t have the very high vegetation on it the carbon farm guys did . This is also a dairy farm not a steer / beef . I am from Indiana where the soil is perfect for growing crops . I now live in Arkansas. There isn’t soil , it’s gravel rocks and what seems like pulverized rock .
The very fact that they say the ground is saturated with manure is proof that this farm is NOT an example of regenerative practices. In order for that much manure to accumulate, you either have to not be rotating the cattle and/or have too many cattle for your acreage. Ridiculously one sided presentation here, based on half truth.
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Read Gabe browns dirt to soil. It’s more than just cattle grazing. You must use other animals such as sheep and chickens. They all work in symbiosis. The key is to use cover crops and use multiple pastures for grazing and moving the animals from one pasture to another all the while allowing the grazed pastures time to recover and heal. There are many aspects to regenerative farming. More than what this gal is sharing. I studied the regen farming and also took Dr Elaine’s soil food web school. There really is something to all of this. I don’t agree with “ carbon farming” as it’s just a way for big corp and gov to control. Yes we need fungi!!! Fungi is very good❤
Well, well, I am a newbie to this whole carbon farming thing...hence I looked it up and here is the first youtube video that comes up...'Carbon Farming -The Next Lie'. This title gave me the idea that carbon farming was a lie. Previous to learning about carbon farming, I've spent a tad of time learning about regererative farming, the soil food web and such. To my dismay I begrudgingly clicked on this video. Then I read the comments and watched some of your other videos. Perhaps your intention is aligned with some many of the people I have seen that are interested in soil and ecosystem regeneration. Perhaps carbon farming is not a lie. Perhaps the cattle farmers that use the term are creating the lie. There are indeed farmers who use cattle in a controlled way. The comments below seem to lead me to think that there is a great canyon of thought among like minded people.. Eating animals or not seems to be the two groups I've seen. It is almost like seeing the reuplicans and democrats this last few years. Two last thoughts...your title is incorrect, too simple doesnt include the actual large cattle farmers lie., the title belittles carbon farming sadly. I almost stopped watching it early because of it. Second thought, eating animals is perhaps like the abortion issue. These issues will only be solved when us humans are much wiser. Some humans will keep eating animals despite all opposing thought. Why not try to find a middle ground. I'm not suggesting you give up your fight to stop the big cattle farming in your area mind you...I'm trying to say that we don't have enough time to keep fighting about this stuff. We need to start promoting anything that will help as many people make a difference on this beautiful planet.
"regenerative grazing," whose claimed eco-benefits many scientists have called unscientific, dishonest, and a form of greenwashing.
Environment and agriculture researcher and author Nicholas Carter has co-authored an article unpacking Kiss the Ground's grazing misinformation, and the claims of regenerative grazers generally: www.plantbasednews.org/opinion/kiss-the-earth-last-ditch-effort-keep-meat-relevant
He has also done a podcast episode responding to the film's grazing assertions: bit.ly/kiss-the-ground
and has a helpful twitter thread discussing these points: twitter.com/NicholasDCarter/status/1309909886910824449
And here's what Tara Garnett, the lead author of a major Oxford study on regenerative grazing, called Grazed and Confused, says about these claims:
“[G]razing livestock - even in a best-case scenario - are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock. Good grazing management cannot offset its own emissions, let alone those arising from other systems of animal production.
What’s more, soils being farmed using a new system of management, such as grazing, reach carbon equilibrium, where the carbon that flows into soils equal carbon flows out, within a few decades. This means that any benefits from grass-fed cows are time-limited, while the problems of methane and other gases continue for as long as the livestock remain on the land. Plus, a change in management or climate - or even a drought - can overturn any gains.
As for methane, the argument that its impact is temporary and so not important is flawed. While the warming effect of any given pulse of methane is temporary, the total warming impacts will continue for as long as the source of methane continues. Methane will be emitted and continue to warm the planet as long as cattle are still reared. The problem only disappears if ruminant production is abandoned.”
@@WatchingHumans Nicholas Carter's main focus doesn't seem to be soil heath, it seems to be veganism. And i think Frank Mitloehner could teach Tara Garnett a thing or two about the carbon and methane footprint of good grazing management. He went and actually measured it. He says proper grazing management can turn animal husbandry into a net sequestering operation. An oversight on her part? Also, her argument implodes when you consider that today's methane burden from lifestock and ruminants is a mere 14% heavier than what if used to be when there were only wild ruminants around. And that lifestock today creates less than 5% of greenhouse emissions. Less than crop farming does!
The real culprit are fossil fuels, because there's no natural cycle and no equilibrium. The greenhouse effect from using fossil fuels is exponentially and continually growing, compared to that from lifestock emissions, which is flat if herd sizes are maintained.
@@WatchingHumans i'd suggest looking at more than one farm,,and reading more than a few articles. Look at australias carbon credit system, neils olsen etc. A science degree can be 3-4 years to understand a scientific field.
livestock improve soil fertility have seen this firsthand being raised in a small dairy farm in Kenya. To improve an infertile ground, my grandparents would fence that place and turn it to a cow shed. The soil fertility would automatically improve in a period of 2 years. Apparently cow manure and urine improve soil fertility.
Doesn't Cow manure actually spread mycorrhizal fungus? With smaller cloven hooves on elk and deer they may actually have a greater weight per square inch compared to the cows! Also Buffalo have roamed the great planes as part of the environment for thousands of years and they are almost the same weight wise as a cow. Organics promote microbial health in a soil. Conventional farming kills microbial health with pesticides and nitrogen. Isn't such soil less capable of holding carbon?
I see a lot of good stuff here in general . But I'd like to say that if you have a high concentration of cows in any one area it's going to be like a city with a lot of people and managing the poop is going to be difficult. Your soil depends upon your weather water pattern. Soil can accept only so much manure and animals and it depends upon the Water available to grow ...... organic matter and Roots hold fertility in the soil and keep water from rushing right through if you have Sandy well draining soil. In my part of Indiana you never are allowed to just broadcast the manure out on the soil you have to knife it in. This keeps it from smelling and minimizes the amount of runoff that you can have. Additionally you can't just put any amount on you have to keep track of it with the side of the idea of too much in one area more than you would use for the crop that you're planning to take off of it is excess nitrogen which then can be run off and go into the rivers blah blah blah. So as long as you can knife it in and keep it in the soil and not have the ammonia bleed off into the atmosphere you can make real good use of it as a fertilizer but mostly it will make the soil sour so you now have to amend and use lime to offset the pH closer back to neutral. I believe that all real regenerative Farmers know exactly what I'm saying and it's not just like throw a turd out in the field and a million of them is going to be just fine. You really can't just put all the manure you want in the world on one small area and not expected to be a stinking mess and mess up the ground . You are just fine to run cows and in any grazing education will tell you your local area support that you can have acre wise per cow. Once that is figured in you don't overgraze and putting manure on your pastures or letting the cows do it will work out just fine.. the whole idea of carbon sequestering is taking the carbon out of the air and creating organic matter that will store it and then over time will release it when it rots away but it is a delaying process that will eventually end up going in the soil as roots and dead roots and organic matter .. the only thing better would be to have trees and have them growing and storing it in their tree trunks for eons.. the CO2 thing and carbon sequestering is not necessary and is a hoax but if you're trying to get credits for it and farm it then at least look at the truth and realize that regenerative farming is better and in all likelihood more things will be growing and will take more of it out of the air.. but we actually have less CO2 than in the past and so the whole political hoax is just another thing to take up people's time and tax money
Manure is not the carbon we are talking about its atmopheric carbon, abosorbed by the leafs... wtf. Manure is mostly nitrogen, phosprous and potassium...
That is literally fertilizer...
Understand one thing. You want food, you need to farm to feed people.
So, how do you do it? You give up meat? Would you plant corn instead to feed the cows?
So they are completely miss representing regenerative farming.
What they are claiming to be regenerative agriculture is not that. If they knew what they were talking about I would not complain. Dumping manure sludge only on pasture is not what regenerative agriculture is about.
The grass was so heavily grazed. The guys did not understand the regenerative “ mean!
With appropriate grazing management, pastures sequester carbon at a much quicker rate than any other regenerative practice. It's almost as if grasslands and herbivores co-evolved for millions of years.
That’s not what I’ve heard carbon farming was. Not tilling the ground and rotating fields cattle graze in is what carbon farming does….not spreading cow diarrhea on plowed fields.
The theory is theory, the best strategy is how you do it
Should we get rid of all the cattle? What will we eat? I guess the millions of Buffalo roaming the prairies hundreds of years ago were bad too.....
I’m not as well versed in this as many people but from what I’ve learned from watching videos and practicing regenerative practices myself I don’t think that this farm is an ideal location for that type of farming or ranching. Most of what I see are dry arid places that live on less precipitation. This farm is coastal and therefore have no issue with precip. I don’t think that a dairy on the coast of california necessarily has to conform to the methods of say the rancher in Texas or Mexico. They already have a carbon storage system set up. So she should adapt to what works for her. This doesn’t mean that carbon farming doesn’t work! Duh! Saying that it’s a lie is horribly misleading and might just be a Californians way of keeping to the “agenda” being shoved down our throats. If you actually watch the transformations on some of these farms and ranches, you can see that it works and works great. But that doesn’t mean that it’s going to work everywhere. Nature is diverse and the land is so different from place to place and region to region. Adapting is the best practice and maybe a little dairy on the Northern California coast is already set up ideally for its climate. Or just maybe, it’s not a place at all for farming, let alone a dairy. Maybe there are places that don’t adapt well to carbon farming or regenerative practices. Maybe this place is one of those places. Maybe she is actually harming that land by having dairy or any cows on it. It looks pretty diverse and well established without the cattle. This farm may be a candidate that should not be on the land and the land left to nature as it seems like it doesn’t need help. But that doesn’t say that the rancher in Pueblo, Colorado or Lynchburg, Kentucky or Chihuahua, Mexico can’t benefit from carbon farming or regenerative practices.
Y'all, this discussion is a mess and it's so long, but after scolling all the way to the beginning, i wanna thank everybody involved, including Watching Humans and the other (supposed) vegan activists. So many people here have patiently and resourcefully explained why regenerative agriculture is an interesting idea that's well worth checking out and i've seen many links to farmers and scientists i hadn't heard about before. So thank you everybody for taking the time :-)
This farm is not practicing regenerative farming. This is just regular farming. There are no feeding lots in regen farming. Regen farming promotes native perennial grasses. Check out Carbon Cowboys for real carbon farming.
I am very impressed upon the explanations here that I learned a few years ago. On the Micorrizal fungi, its importance and this aspect of the regenerative benefits.
This was a very helpful encouragement to me in my list;e gardening ventures that I try to inform ppl yet most ppl grab the rotted chemicals toxic stuff never realizing how they are doing it so so wrong.
Maam... What you are doing NOT carbon farming. I don't see any partition fences in yout cattle pasture. Your cows are OVER-GRASSing and OVER-LITTERing in certain place. You must rotate the cows from place to another place periodicaly to let the grass recovers and absorb the manure in some place and let the cow grassing the other place with recovered grass available.
You must atleast devide the land into atleast 4 different zones, and put all your cows in a place at a time, and then rotate them in other zone in certain time. By that, you will let the other 3 zones get recovered gradualy before it get grassed again.
the farm shown is not using regenerative practice. Find a better example.
My first inclination was to call you bad names but I realize that you don't really understand cuz you're not Farmers yourselves and I'm not anymore but I was involved in a small one and I'm here to tell you right now when you spread manure everything goes better not chemical fertilizer
As a college educated botanist and a cattle rancher for 60 years I am disturbed by your distortion of facts and erroneous use of scientific terminology. Just as grazing or any agricultural activity can be overdone so can environmental extremism. Your clip falls into the later category.
I think she's having a good point, but she's looking at the problem from one perspective, and not trying to find more solutions. I liked the video but I also do like to rise a discussion :). Most manure used by farmers is worked into the soil by machines like cultivators which mix the top 0,4 meters of soil with the manure, so there is no eutrophication caused by the manure by runoff. Next a single cow may be 3 times as heavy as native animals, but who know the cattle of cows weighs the same as the cattle of native animals? It's not the cows fault they ruin the biological crust, it is probably a combination of things, which can be the sponginess of the soil and wetness of the soil. Did you saw all that trampled up soil? That's do to the soil being too wet. A drier soil would be that easily trampled.
There is a lot of falsehoods in this video and is very misinformed.
Spoken like a typical Trumpster rancher ignoramus. Just make a claim and provide nothing else.
@@WatchingHumans I don’t support trump or am a rancher. You’re so incorrect
@@BenAdamsAgri If you're not a Trumpeter God help us. Do people get even dumber? BTW, he said "like a Trumpster rancher", he didn't call you one. Big difference, although my money is that you are one. Geeze, with non Trumpsters like you who needs Trumpsters?
@@WatchingHumans are you serious..... you provide an extremely narrow minded and misinformed video showing poor carbon credit farming practices thinking thats how it done then get absolutely shown up in the comments section so you start calling people names like Trumpsters........ all you've done is successfully show yourself as immature and misinformed.
Before you think about doing the same I am not in the slightest a trump fan but I'm not sure why that would even matter.........
We are pointing to the wrong direction, you want to fix carbon problem generated by deep petrol carbon extracted and pumped to atmosfer and say "cows are the problem". Actually cows just recicle atmosferic CO2 by plants carbon capture .. the only real bad contribution is petrol used in AG machinery.. way smaller problem than the transport released by cars anythere in the world
Savory’s cult is very active in comment section. Like every mass murderer, Allan also has a strange and agressive following.
Exactly. Let's praise people who slaughter elephants that existed harmoniously with earth before humans even came to be.
I don’t think anyone is saying regenerative agriculture is better than native prairie
'Native prairies' aren't exactly natural. They *are* a byproduct of human manipulation of the environment. Studies are showing that hardwoods are moving west into the Midwest.
That said, this video is a misinformation campaign. Look up Joe Salatin, or better still Mark Shepard, author of Regenerative Agriculture. This video is trying to construe regular ranching and farming with the real regenerative ag.
The question I'd ask is who sponsered this video and to what end.
Okay, I had to come back and edit my comment. I was SO not going to watch this after the first 30seconds. So she is 100% correct on everything she says, but COMPLETELY incorrect blaming it on regenerative ag. Because everything she is for, so are we. Deep roots, fences that don't impede native wildlife, mycorrhizae mats and a dominant fungal population in the soil, NO LIQUID manure. I mean, really its a PROMO for regenerative farming if anything. Just has to get her terminology straight.
This is a ridiculous misrepresentation of holistic management.
Somebody needs to introduce this lady to Greg Judy and Joel Salatin.
I kept on listening mainly to see what amazing statement was coming up next. Unbelievable!!!
Clearly, you have yet to learn what regenerative agriculture is. Your comparison is far from regenerative. It would be best if you visited someone who actually practices regen ag.
This is such a misleading and incorrect video. The author has no understanding of regenerative agriculture, and carbon farming. When it comes to cattle farming, when done in a regenerative way, including daily rotational grazing, it results in the sequestration of carbon leading to spongy soils and greater retention of water and nutrients. I wonder if the author is a vegan and simply does not like cattle farming
Lol the only thing that’s “shit” is the journalism in this show 😂
Ugh, dumping manure on the ground is not carbon farming. They completely misunderstood the idea and application of it. The woman knows what she's talking about. The movie Kiss The Ground will enlighten you. It's a must watch.
“They”? You mean the 5th generation ranchers who tell everyone they know what they are doing? Because that’s who this video is about.
Actually she's agreeing with you. It's the ranchers claiming that dumping manure is good. Kiss the Ground is horseshit.
This is profoundly inaccurate.
Yah this vid is showing that farm is not carbon farming. Agree with the poster who stated that. Its proving that farm isnt using those practices.
The fact that you’re looking at holding pens shows that you have no idea how regenerative ranching works. Or you’re choosing to not understand.
You cannot generalize from one example. There are tons of examples where regenerative agriculture actually works, just look it up in other UA-cam videos. Plus, regenerative agriculture is not about just throwing manure on your land, it's about recreating carbon-rich soil which includes e.g. laying compost on the soil. In this video it seems the wrong technique was used. There have been serious research done on how to restore the soils while storing carbon in it. Look for example at the study of INRA in France about carbon sequestration in soils and the "4 for 1000" initiative: www.inrae.fr/en/news/storing-4-1000-carbon-soils-potential-france
What is being shown in this video is not regenerative grazing. It is a conventional farm. Regenerative farms have a variety of natural grasses with the deep roots that have been there for years. They don't graze their pastures down to nothing. They don't spread manure or have their animals in pens. Your video has so much misinformation. Go to an actual regenerative farm and try again.
I don't agree trees are lessor beings. I like the message nonetheless.
This is an example of Cafo farming. Try not to confuse the issue with videos like this. Carbon farming works.
Please look up polyface farms and say that that is bad for the environment. If you don't use a grazing system your land will degrade no matter how much manure you put on it. Also how do you make food with just letting elk eat all your resources. I would call myself an environmentalist, and no way would I just take cattle of land for, "carbon sequestration."
Animals and plants have worked together forever. It’s dangerous to condemn regenerative agriculture advances. 25000 people across the globe starve to death every day. Just curious what you recommend we eat that moss doesn’t look very productive or tasty to me.
You have an assumption within your statement that the current food production system works. That system is, instead, fundamentally flawed. It exists for profit, not to solve hunger, and within this system most food doesn't even make it to the store, much less to someone's mouth. Massive amounts of land, massive use of our limited fresh water sources, all to create waste.
Doing more of the same certainly isn't the answer, although that's what's being pushed for. This deserves a better answer and its own video...all in time.
@@WatchingHumans The global 14.5% GHG Emissions for livestock from the FAO Livestock’s long shadow is not a fair comparison of emissions across all the sectors because for livestock they used a complete life cycle analysis whereas for transportation they used tailpipe emissions only, not the entire life cycle analysis.
According to the EPA, all livestock only represents 3.9% of the US GHG emissions, which is far lower than the 18-51% range many plant based advocates report..
hold up , this is NOT what i was introduced to as carbon farming. She sounds knowledgeable. however is she UP to date on current info about the subject?
Isn't carbon farming about planting trees??
Are you up to date? Or did you just walk out of Allan Savory’s brainwashing seminar
Some great points in this video regarding invasive vs native grass species and the slurry dump practices. I think a more balanced view of regenerative agriculture done properly would have made the video more receptive. All the best
Or just better facts in general. Lots of assumptions and just plain errors are made in this video. Think Bill Gates and AOC would like it, though.
Making a video is easy....apparently doing actual research is hard for you.....research what a "plow" is/does.....
So I'm guessing the solution is less people? Oh yeah less cows. What about people who are allergic to everything else?
Do we get to eat the elk? Do we get to eat the deer? If no then stop.
You are drawing a very long bow
Similar lies within the shark world...
Watch the videos with ,Gane Brown, Joel salatin ,greg judy and then You will get corectly what's meaning regenerative agruculture
What about the 8 feet of top soil in Iowa built by glaciers and bison? what about the fertile soils of the midwest built by the herding action of the bison? intensive management rotational grazing has been proven, not theoretical, to build soil.
Genius point, comparing a glacier's effect over millenia to a few hundred years of cattle damage. Also brilliant to compare wild animals to domesticated commodity animals.
The only argument rotational grazing has is that it's not as terrible as not rotating them. Yay!! So ecological.
Again, this guy compared a glacier to cattle. Lol
@@WatchingHumans I think Greg Gunter wasn't comparing glacier and bison to cattle damage. He was comparing them to how regenerative agriculture can build top soil.
And what's your suggestion for farming? If not through regenerative agriculture, how would you suggest that the farms whos's products you're buying stop destroying their top soil? I'm very curious to hear your take on that. Following your line of argument in the other comments i'm assuming that you can only accept farming if it doen't change the native environment at all. That would logically leave you with no crop farming altogether, am i right? I'm so curious to hear what you eat. It's not animal food, It didn't come from a farm.. Hunter gatherer?
Farmers and ranchers are trying to improve their practices and these idiots who made this video come out talking about how bad it is. It goes to show how you can never do enough for people like this.
Has anyone heard of carbon farming by burning the land before the planting season, it's a tribal heritage in the Amazon and it works
what no you are missing the point about the old forest versus the human need to grow food in vast area.
You are so unfamiliar with what the farmers are doing. It is easy to blame something that you don`t know about.
Lotsa people claiming this video isn't addressing the topic of carbon farming. How so?
"Agriculture
Compared to natural vegetation, cropland soils are depleted in soil organic carbon (SOC). When a soil is converted from natural land or semi natural land, such as forests, woodlands, grasslands, steppes and savannas, the SOC content in the soil reduces by about 30-40%.[21] This loss is due to the removal of plant material containing carbon, via harvesting. When land use changes, soil carbon either increases or decreases. This change continues until the soil reaches a new equilibrium. Deviations from this equilibrium can also be affected by varying climate.[22] The decrease can be counteracted by increasing carbon input. This can be done via several strategies, e.g. leaving harvest residues on the field, using manure or rotating perennial crops. Perennial crops have a larger below ground biomass fraction, which increases the SOC content.[21] Globally, soils are estimated to contain >8,580 gigatons of organic carbon, about ten times the amount in the atmosphere and much more than in vegetation.[23]
Modification of agricultural practices is a recognized method of carbon sequestration as soil can act as an effective carbon sink offsetting as much as 20% of 2010 carbon dioxide emissions annually.[24] Organic farming and earthworms may be able to more than offset the annual carbon excess of 4 Gt/year.[25]
Carbon emission reduction methods in agriculture can be grouped into two categories: reducing and/or displacing emissions and enhancing carbon sequestration. Reductions include increasing the efficiency of farm operations (e.g. more fuel-efficient equipment) and interrupting the natural carbon cycle. Effective techniques (such as the elimination of stubble burning) can negatively impact other environmental concerns (increased herbicide use to control weeds not destroyed by burning)."
No, the complaints about this video are that you've essentially just done selective hearing/reading and showed a property that was clearly not undertaking a carbon credit scheme properly. There are hundreds of examples of how it can be done well including places like Central Queensland and throughout America with short intensive grazing such as 2-3 days with extended periods off (60-90 days). This ensures that the root system stays planted and continues to strengthen and grow for generations. You also pick and choose articles to "prove your point" however it's essentially just selective reading/hearing. This video is the only thing full of absolute bullshit... and providing a few negative articles doesn't change that.
There are hundreds of scholarly papers on the benefits of carbon farming if done correctly. Here is just one of many many many many pro study comments about it.
Toensmeier, E., 2016. The carbon farming solution: A global toolkit of perennial crops and regenerative agriculture practices for climate change mitigation and food security. Chelsea Green Publishing.
"specifically, the subset of practices known as" carbon farming"--can, and should be, a linchpin of a global climate solutions platform. Carbon farming is a suite of agricultural practices and crops that sequester carbon in the soil and in above-ground biomass. Combined with a massive reduction in fossil fuel emissions--and in concert with adaptation strategies to our changing environment--carbon farming has the potential to bring us back from the brink of disaster and return our atmosphere to the" magic number" of 350 parts per million of carbon dioxide."
I find your approach repugnant. Yes, the PR side of carbon farming can be just another form of white washing. But true carbon farming isn't, and it is possible. It all comes back to the same painful truths, which means that we have to downsize considerably, produce, use and consume less fossil fuel based products. And the tragedy is that our system of infinite growth has no answer to those questions. But to call farmers and even corporate farmers people who earn their money killing the earth will get us nowhere. Farming produces food, we need it, and yes, all options have to be on the table, to do it differently. But you will never get anywhere without an inclusive farming policy and a reintegration of farming into our world, our lives. We've long since been separated from it. To my ancestors, it was all present, so much so, that people didn't even ask the questions and raise the doubts that we ask and have today. I worked in dairy farming for many years. Ruminants can be storing carbon, and they can be major emitters. It all depends on how you do it. As long as markets and production costs make it more feasible to produce food by feeding food and have all animal nutrition come from arable, tilled ground, our climate and our future are doomed.
Manure gets into the ground if you have a healthy population of dung beetles which significantly improve the soil health.
Is this a satire?:D
I mean showing the beginning of ecological succession, moss and lichen on the ground and say it is sequestering more carbon than developed grassland..... you should rely on common sense observation. Take a shovel and dig a hole.
Of course if cattle are kept on one pasture for too long create bad conditions but anyway, you should have done more than just carbon farming is spreading the manure.
Total ignorance right here
It's not a lie .it's just inappropriate for that type of soil
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