Thank you for making a straight forward video. I’m tired of hearing about the damn history and why the moon phases matter for trap times etc… Just straight to the point!
It’s more about the total output if all else is equal. 20hp is not negligible at 400lbs when your total output is 30hp and the other car is 10hp. On the other hand, 20hp is negligible when it’s only 4% of 500hp. Besides, it doesn’t take into account the weight difference, tuning, gearing, and all the other differences. Surely nobody is buying the DH for the supposed power gain that it was rated to make on paper. People would be crying that it has the same engine and tuning as the normal GT and i would be too.
No doubt! 20 hp and maybe 3 ft-lb diff. Big meh.... I expected better from Hennessey. Some will talk up the auto transmission, but if you buy a sports car without a manual then we just can't be friends lol. (all of these numbers are the manual transmissions.) It takes three time-sucking shifts to hit 100 mph in the Dark Horse, but only two in the GT. The Dark Horse also loses time from 94 to 107 mph because its fourth gear is taller than the GT's third gear. When the GT is shifted into fourth, though, the Dark Horse claws back most of that time. That's why there's a relatively large, 0.6-second gap to 100 mph but a marginal 0.1 second difference in the quarter-mile times. (from Motortrend) If you don't mind spending an extra $10,000+ for the DH, go for it. But I sure as hell wouldn't.
The gt350 beats all of them. Anyone who wastes their money on a overpriced GT or a darkhorse should have their heads checked for not just getting a mach1 or gt350 instead. Yuppies will overpay and this is why we are here.
I love my Dark Horse. It is my first (and probably last) sports car I ever owned. It is exciting to drive. Thank you, Ford! I'm glad you didn't give up on American muscle cars!
@@heathphoenix1341 ok, when both cars are forced induction and both can get traction, 1 will go home in 1 piece. The other will need a new diff (hint - your WHALE Dodge) and possible even a driveshaft lmao.
Best bet is a base GT for $41,000 and you get a nice stick to go with it. Put an H pipe ($250), remove carbon filters, and install an air intake ($450). If you really wanna go crazy remove the catalytics as well. It is going to sound great, and it will blow the doors off the dark horse! It is also the more streetable car. For under $42,000 you’ll have a really nice running and sounding 500 hp street machine. What more can you ask for in 2024
@@GlowyalteeA lot!!!!! For starters you’ll get a nice hefty fine for breaking federal law if a cop or inspector puts a mirror under your vehicle and see they are missing in certain states. Woo hoo! Then if the cop is an ass, he can actually arrest you depending on which state you’re traveling through or live in for breaking federal law! Woo hoo again! Then you have the noise factor which in many states will get you a citation for high decibel noise. Woo hoo again. Good thing is cops are too lazy in most cases and won’t even bother. If you live in the state where you have vehicle inspections, that’s a whole different story. I would have to say it is not worth all the trouble it can cause for a few ponies. Enjoy the vehicle as it is from factory. They are beautiful.
I admit I was down on the S650 mustang and particularly the Dark Horse until I read the Motor Trend review and watched this video. The Darkhorse is the real deal and if I didn't own a 500 I'd consider one. My gripe is the 75k price tag. Way too high for a GT regardless of options/packages.
Not to mention whatever market adjustment BS dealers are putting on them. I found one in rural NC with a $15K adder. Makes me want to find a used 500 like your or a 350!
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Good, you weren’t disappointed. Dark Horse only has a more aggressive timing curve a larger duration (per Ford) camshafts for the extra power. It ain’t the GT350 replacement, it’s the Mach 1 replacement.
Absolutely incredible video. This is what car advertisements in TV should be! The drone flight, following the cars looks stunning and i love it when someone cuts videos with the music like at 2:09 :D
Of course it will be close. It’s a drag race and you’re talking about only a 20HP difference. The dark horse is supposed to be track focused for tight cornering not really driving in a straight. But hey everybody is a critic 💁🏾♂️ great video too!
@@Sol-hd7pz it’s already been proven that you can make 4,000+ lb cars handle though? Lol I mean literally look at the GT500? This argument is dumb. Especially if you expected the heavier car with only 14-20 more hp to walk away.
Thats what all the slow car owner use as an excuse. Who buys a mustang to corner? Buy a corvette if you wanna corner and wanna be fast for the SAME PRICE.
Seems about right on the rolling race. 20hp isn’t going to be a drastic difference. Not sure about the dig race though. The GT probably bogged a bit off the line is my guess.
@@zezo-hg1cr If you think a Civic is going to keep up with ANY of these Mustangs you really don't know cars. The Type R can't do it, so that Civic you mentioned certainly can't.
Sorry bro I’m not Poor 😂😂 I’ll enjoy my dark horse with it’s amazing brakes and wild colors. Y’all just mad it’s not stupid fast in a straight line 😂 and when whipple makes a package for em I’ll be enjoying it 10x more then your base GT 😂
Not all people are saving money though. Some people actually have money to spare and if you're somebody like me who wants the best out of anything, I get triggered when a new version comes out and it's better than what I currently have. I always go for the top trim and I am not even compensating. I am an introvert and I have social anxiety. I don't care what other people think of me or what they say about the things I have, I'm not gonna hear them anyway. I just want the things I want because I want them not because I want to show off. Showing off is not my thing. I have no interest in sharing nor do I have the desire to please other people. Everything I have is strictly for my personal entertainment.
The only Good thing is that it sounds good and it's new...I daily a 2013 corvette grandsport and it's half the price and just as fast under 120mph..then it easily pulls away after 120...yeah my blue tooth is shitty and it rattles a whole lot 345 rear tires 285 front 3200lb
Not necessarily. Dark horse have wider wheels. With a strut tower and 20×9 front and 20×11 rear staggered set up on the GT. It would have been the same all the way around. Plus you can always upgrade the suspension to be track suited.
Fun in a staight line, hell to people enjoy manually shifting with paddles. You miss out on all the fun downshifts, because the gearing the downshifts sound weird and weak, and if you manual shifting you either hit the rev limiter or end up shortshifting. It's great if you leave it in automatic but I will never own another car that with the 10 speed, had 1 for 5 years on a mustang GT pp1, the joy out of a DCT and some of the German trans are on another level
@@benjaminl4524also great if you're gonna take the car on a track with actual corners and turns which is pretty much the intent. Most race/track cars these days use paddle shifters. Yeah it's not as fun, but it's more efficient and faster. It all just depends on what kind of driver you are.
No I would say the dark horse is the replacement for the mach 1 and gt350. That's why it offers carbon wheels etc. It just isn't good be as good as it should for 80k
Absolutely stoked after watching this! 🏁 It's amazing how both cars have their unique strengths, but I’m curious, do you all think a manual transmission truly brings more thrill to the driving experience, or has the precision and ease of automatics won the day? 🤔 And, considering the marginal horsepower difference and focus on tight cornering, is the Darkhorse truly worth the hefty price tag or could modding the base version bring more satisfaction and value? Let's discuss! 💬👇 Also, kudos to the creators for the no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point approach! 🌟
I was one of the drivers (I'm in the car with the camera).. and I wished for a MT as it brings a ton more engagement into the equation. The biggest difference between the GT and Darkhorse (IMHO) is the adaptive dampers. They made a huge difference when I went over the bumpy sections of our test track.
@@MichaelHarleyyeah six speed is always gonna be slower but its so much more engaging plus the drifts. Also if its anything like the previous s550s you can easily swap those magnaride shocks on there.🎉 If you get serious though the magna rides are coming off anyways.
Mane I see the whole engagement thing with manuals but there's it's fallbacks. I'm much more happy with my automatic GT with the performance package, hearing it gets through those gears with also the usability of the paddles makes it all worth while🥹
Honestly the dark horse should've been twin turbo or supercharged from the factory cause it's being embarrassed by the gt in pretty much every video I've seen
@@pfwww12 You apparently and completely misinterpreted what I SAID bruh!🙄...Bottom Line, all things being equal MEANING same track, same day, street, weather conditions, tires, same configuration (front eng, rwd etc) similar weight, etc. etc. 20 extra hp (especially when the car is slightly heavier) won't MEAN MUCH! I SAID what I SAID!!🤔...The actual results HERE, should've clarified my point already 🤨
So I drove both and bought the dark horse. GT had terrible steering feedback and almost no weight on the steering wheel. Dark Horse great heavier steering and glued on corners. Coming from a 6gen Camaro SS, the Dark Horse is like the perfect love child between the Mustang and Camaro. You get that great Camaro handling and that Mustang top end speed. Usually I change a lot on my cars but with this one I'm just adding LT, CAI, E85. That's all it really needs.
It’s been proven time and time again you maybe gain 3-6 HP from the carbon trap removal. You’re not gaining 20 HP from that lmaooo. I say this as someone who owns an S650.
What was the rear end gear ratio on the GT? I’m not surprised that they were close in a drag race. The Dark Horse is a track car with additional cooling, and weight, to handle long periods of driving on a road course. Plus it has a more robust and likely heavier suspension compared to a non-performance pack GT. A GT with a active exhaust and similar rear end gear ratio should be just as fast in the drag race. A fraction less horsepower but also less weight. Lastly, were both cars wearing the same tires?
I believe the Dark horse was running the handling pack which includes 19 x 11 rear wheels with 315 width tires. The GT looked to be running the performance pack wheels that are 19 x 9.5 on the rear with 275 width tires.
Nice, quick and to the point. The drone shots are awesome for these races, it really gives an ideal perspective to see the cars racing from above, neck and neck
Performance pack doesn’t do anything for straight line speed other than better tires. Gearing is different too but there were tests done in the gen 3s that found non pp vehicles were faster from rolls
Well that extra 10k comes from it's rarity of 900 units only, so it will increase in value later in time but I agree with you, only 20 more horsepower?
No quad exhaust for GTs anymore? Seems to have cheapened out. They're close on a roll, but from a dig the DH will always win in stock configurations because of more aggressive gearing and trans tuning. The DH shines better in the twisties vs straight-line performance.
@@voodoodiecast got it! I always have to ask the Ford guys because I'm not the most knowledgeable on them. But I loved that look when it came out. I assumed that all of the 18+ models got it, whether they were equipped with active exhaust or not. That Dark Horse sounds so good stock!
@@boomee78Exactly. And these same people not worried about tunes are the ones that made the S650. Which is why its a slow, heavy, ugly, untunable, turd.
Unfortunately, it will be hard to tune thr 650 because if the encryption on the ECM and even if it is hacked, Ford will know because the car will report it to Ford and the warranty will be void.
I still rather have a manual. It's not the speed of the shift that makes automatic faster in a straight line,it's the gear ratios that make it quicker. Manufacturers are suckering buyers into buying automatic . One reason is to lessen human involvement with the driving experience. To get people people more willing to accept autonomous (self driving).
Especially for the price of both. Government emissions standards have turned these new generation Mustangs into duds. But the casual buyer will still get it just because it’s the latest but definitely not the greatest.
@@mikehughes8023Don't blame the government. Ford should have let the Mustang name ride into the sunset as a champ. Like Dodge and GM. Instead, the S650 will be remembered as a slow, heavy, ugly turd.
I know John Hennessey is a chevy guy , I wonder how he feels about chevy stop producing their v8 sports cars in the near future?? FORD will be the last unicorns with v8s
Great test video. I don't know why you would ever need more than six gears for a manual or seven for an auto. Can you hit 60 in second gear? If so, what are eight through ten for on the high end?
Interesting, the darkhorse has more power but also weighs more and the torque difference is so small it might as well not be there. Guess the difference in tuning must just be that good? Maybe intentionally limiting the GT to try to push the Darkhorse sales? Idk what do I know
The Dark Horse is more expensive because it offers a lot more features than the GT. It's not limiting the GT, it just has more to offer making it faster, accelerate faster, etc.
Great video. Straight to the point. No bullshit. No shitty fillers and unnecessary talking. Just two cars racing.
And no trash music!!
No dry corny jokes
No turbos no superchargers
Honestly bro
@@Polo22546well there is trash music tho
Thank you for making a straight forward video.
I’m tired of hearing about the damn history and why the moon phases matter for trap times etc…
Just straight to the point!
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Would you like to hear about the mustang backstory for the 1000th time?
20hp is negligible at near 4000lbs.
It’s more about the total output if all else is equal. 20hp is not negligible at 400lbs when your total output is 30hp and the other car is 10hp.
On the other hand, 20hp is negligible when it’s only 4% of 500hp.
Besides, it doesn’t take into account the weight difference, tuning, gearing, and all the other differences.
Surely nobody is buying the DH for the supposed power gain that it was rated to make on paper.
People would be crying that it has the same engine and tuning as the normal GT and i would be too.
Yeah but if the HP is spread well across the powerband 20 HP can make a big difference
No doubt! 20 hp and maybe 3 ft-lb diff. Big meh.... I expected better from Hennessey. Some will talk up the auto transmission, but if you buy a sports car without a manual then we just can't be friends lol. (all of these numbers are the manual transmissions.) It takes three time-sucking shifts to hit 100 mph in the Dark Horse, but only two in the GT. The Dark Horse also loses time from 94 to 107 mph because its fourth gear is taller than the GT's third gear. When the GT is shifted into fourth, though, the Dark Horse claws back most of that time. That's why there's a relatively large, 0.6-second gap to 100 mph but a marginal 0.1 second difference in the quarter-mile times. (from Motortrend)
If you don't mind spending an extra $10,000+ for the DH, go for it. But I sure as hell wouldn't.
@@courtney5796 They're the only ones doing this comparison.. so I'm thankful they did.
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We needed this type of video with the 350 and need one against the Mach1 👀
The gt350 beats all of them. Anyone who wastes their money on a overpriced GT or a darkhorse should have their heads checked for not just getting a mach1 or gt350 instead. Yuppies will overpay and this is why we are here.
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@@shanefowler9443I loveeeee the Gt350 and it’s even cheaper than dark horse also. You can get a 2018 350 with basically no miles for around 60k
I can give you the video
I love my Dark Horse. It is my first (and probably last) sports car I ever owned.
It is exciting to drive. Thank you, Ford! I'm glad you didn't give up on American muscle cars!
My dodge demon can smoke your car anyday
@@heathphoenix1341one whipple later on his dark horse and your demon will see nothing but tail lights
@@heathphoenix1341 ok, when both cars are forced induction and both can get traction, 1 will go home in 1 piece. The other will need a new diff (hint - your WHALE Dodge) and possible even a driveshaft lmao.
@@heathphoenix1341let him enjoy his car bro… like cmon now
@@heathphoenix1341and nobody ask about your shitty demon
Best bet is a base GT for $41,000 and you get a nice stick to go with it. Put an H pipe ($250), remove carbon filters, and install an air intake ($450). If you really wanna go crazy remove the catalytics as well. It is going to sound great, and it will blow the doors off the dark horse! It is also the more streetable car. For under $42,000 you’ll have a really nice running and sounding 500 hp street machine. What more can you ask for in 2024
what’ll removing the cats do ?
@@GlowyalteeA lot!!!!! For starters you’ll get a nice hefty fine for breaking federal law if a cop or inspector puts a mirror under your vehicle and see they are missing in certain states. Woo hoo! Then if the cop is an ass, he can actually arrest you depending on which state you’re traveling through or live in for breaking federal law! Woo hoo again! Then you have the noise factor which in many states will get you a citation for high decibel noise. Woo hoo again. Good thing is cops are too lazy in most cases and won’t even bother. If you live in the state where you have vehicle inspections, that’s a whole different story. I would have to say it is not worth all the trouble it can cause for a few ponies. Enjoy the vehicle as it is from factory. They are beautiful.
@@Glowyaltee You won't hear them meowing at night anymore.
😂
I admit I was down on the S650 mustang and particularly the Dark Horse until I read the Motor Trend review and watched this video. The Darkhorse is the real deal and if I didn't own a 500 I'd consider one. My gripe is the 75k price tag. Way too high for a GT regardless of options/packages.
Not to mention whatever market adjustment BS dealers are putting on them. I found one in rural NC with a $15K adder. Makes me want to find a used 500 like your or a 350!
I could never spend corvette money on a mustang gt performance pack, essentially....Ford is price gouging. What a joke.
@@camonly849you have crazy add ONS on the vettes as well. I dunno what's going on with the auto industry since COVID. It's nuts
@JamaicanMeCrazy yeah, but it's a vette lol....670hp z06 with carbon everything and a complete track monster. The dark horse is closer to the base c8.
@@camonly849curious as to where you are seeing the z06 for the price of a new gt?
Not really what you wanna see after you advertise a flagship trim 😅
My exact thoughts 😂😂😂
Did you expect something else?
@@BC08 nope lol
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Good, you weren’t disappointed.
Dark Horse only has a more aggressive timing curve a larger duration (per Ford) camshafts for the extra power.
It ain’t the GT350 replacement, it’s the Mach 1 replacement.
@@BC08Local dealer has Mach 1’s cheaper than 24’ GT’s. Mach 1 is still the better buy to be honest
That Dark Horse sounds AWESOME!!!
GT PP with active exhaust sounds just as good as DH and has 6 more HP than the GT tested here...
the exhaust on the Dark Horse is really nice 🔥
No it ain’t. The car sounds bad.
@@goofy_xf6223 Oh ok.
Absolutely incredible video.
This is what car advertisements in TV should be!
The drone flight, following the cars looks stunning and i love it when someone cuts videos with the music like at 2:09 :D
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Saved me $25k! Thanks!
Dang they sound amazing.
Of course it will be close. It’s a drag race and you’re talking about only a 20HP difference. The dark horse is supposed to be track focused for tight cornering not really driving in a straight. But hey everybody is a critic 💁🏾♂️ great video too!
Dark Donkey is 4000lbs almost lol
Made for turns at 4,000 pounds lmao The cope people come up with is crazy. The Darkhorse is a flop.
@@Sol-hd7pz it’s already been proven that you can make 4,000+ lb cars handle though? Lol I mean literally look at the GT500? This argument is dumb. Especially if you expected the heavier car with only 14-20 more hp to walk away.
Thats what all the slow car owner use as an excuse. Who buys a mustang to corner? Buy a corvette if you wanna corner and wanna be fast for the SAME PRICE.
Exactly
That 1st roll.. They Stayed Even!
Seems about right on the rolling race. 20hp isn’t going to be a drastic difference. Not sure about the dig race though. The GT probably bogged a bit off the line is my guess.
Bogging is a feature for GTs, buy our Dark Horse 😂😂😂
@@FunkyBananaBear My paid off 2018 has over 500 hp. I'll keep up with the Dark Horse just fine.
Probably stickier tires.
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@@zezo-hg1cr If you think a Civic is going to keep up with ANY of these Mustangs you really don't know cars. The Type R can't do it, so that Civic you mentioned certainly can't.
I would just buy the base manual version and save money. Most people don’t go to the track so it is fairly pointless to get the top trim.
Absolutely 💯
Please say that again! So many people are caught up on all the Hype but not looking at it for what it is.
But how else are they going to compensate for whatever they are lacking? hahaha
Sorry bro I’m not Poor 😂😂 I’ll enjoy my dark horse with it’s amazing brakes and wild colors. Y’all just mad it’s not stupid fast in a straight line 😂 and when whipple makes a package for em I’ll be enjoying it 10x more then your base GT 😂
Not all people are saving money though. Some people actually have money to spare and if you're somebody like me who wants the best out of anything, I get triggered when a new version comes out and it's better than what I currently have. I always go for the top trim and I am not even compensating. I am an introvert and I have social anxiety. I don't care what other people think of me or what they say about the things I have, I'm not gonna hear them anyway. I just want the things I want because I want them not because I want to show off. Showing off is not my thing. I have no interest in sharing nor do I have the desire to please other people. Everything I have is strictly for my personal entertainment.
Plus w better dampening on the darkhorse because of magneride. Its a beast on the track.
Seen a Dark horse in the wild the other day. Really does look amazing and the sound was very strong. Cool car for sure
Perfect car comparison video…straight to the point 👊🏾🔥
This made me realize how much more fun a manual is lol
Great video! 👍
Right automatics are so boring 😡
@@dennisbraxton3770not boring when u seeing my taillights
Maybe so, but it's still faster and that's the point of it lol
@@ShiftnliftAre you one of those people who measure their Dick size by how fast their car is?😂
tremec manual... lol, the GTs gearbox is ok if you aren't ever going to take it to the track and its just for spirited back roads or mountain roads
The main thing that matters with a car like this is that it sounds good and is fast, both sound good and are fast, the cheaper one wins.
The only Good thing is that it sounds good and it's new...I daily a 2013 corvette grandsport and it's half the price and just as fast under 120mph..then it easily pulls away after 120...yeah my blue tooth is shitty and it rattles a whole lot 345 rear tires 285 front 3200lb
@@carlitosASJ until you drop a valve. oops. Or was that the ls7 lol
I had an allocation for a dark horse. Guy offered to buy it from me so I sold it. I have a Whipple F150 now. 😂
Well done , exactly what I did 😂 what color did you get ? I got silver 🦾
@@MA-lv3kt I got Oxford white 😂
Smart move. There's a sucker with money around the corner. You dodged a bullet. Actually, you dodged a turd flung by Ford.
@@MA-lv3ktdh is not available in silver. Carbonized gray maybe
Smart move, Whipple F150 or Mach 1 would be the best Ford options in my opinion
Dark horse from the dig, same same rollin
GT was ahead at start and got caught/ pulled away from oth the 2nd roll lmfao
Dark horse just has better tires and wins from a dig put them on equal wheels and tires they're dead even
this dark horse will lose when rase with charger scat pack 100%
Not necessarily. Dark horse have wider wheels. With a strut tower and 20×9 front and 20×11 rear staggered set up on the GT. It would have been the same all the way around. Plus you can always upgrade the suspension to be track suited.
@@ehabhadi9177 stock s550s walk down scats lol those boats need a supercharger to be fast
That 10 speed transmission is crazy....
Fun in a staight line, hell to people enjoy manually shifting with paddles. You miss out on all the fun downshifts, because the gearing the downshifts sound weird and weak, and if you manual shifting you either hit the rev limiter or end up shortshifting. It's great if you leave it in automatic but I will never own another car that with the 10 speed, had 1 for 5 years on a mustang GT pp1, the joy out of a DCT and some of the German trans are on another level
@@benjaminl4524 yeah I hear you 4sure....
@benjaminl4524 I have a 16 gt350 and a f13 m6 dct and I agree with you the dct is insane but the gt350 is the most fun being a manual
@@shanefowler9443 oh yeah, that’s why it blows my mind anyone would choose the 10 speed over the 6 speed Tremec on the Mach1
@@benjaminl4524also great if you're gonna take the car on a track with actual corners and turns which is pretty much the intent. Most race/track cars these days use paddle shifters. Yeah it's not as fun, but it's more efficient and faster. It all just depends on what kind of driver you are.
How can you ask for a better video. Slick, to the point and informative.
The Darkhorse is more like the Mach 1 from the s550 gen. Wonder if they’ll make anything with this gen and put the 5.2 in it.
5.2 is not perfected yet when it comes to reliability
No I would say the dark horse is the replacement for the mach 1 and gt350. That's why it offers carbon wheels etc. It just isn't good be as good as it should for 80k
The only one and Best car race videos on UA-cam yet
Absolutely stoked after watching this! 🏁 It's amazing how both cars have their unique strengths, but I’m curious, do you all think a manual transmission truly brings more thrill to the driving experience, or has the precision and ease of automatics won the day? 🤔 And, considering the marginal horsepower difference and focus on tight cornering, is the Darkhorse truly worth the hefty price tag or could modding the base version bring more satisfaction and value? Let's discuss! 💬👇 Also, kudos to the creators for the no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point approach! 🌟
I was one of the drivers (I'm in the car with the camera).. and I wished for a MT as it brings a ton more engagement into the equation. The biggest difference between the GT and Darkhorse (IMHO) is the adaptive dampers. They made a huge difference when I went over the bumpy sections of our test track.
@@MichaelHarleyyeah six speed is always gonna be slower but its so much more engaging plus the drifts. Also if its anything like the previous s550s you can easily swap those magnaride shocks on there.🎉 If you get serious though the magna rides are coming off anyways.
Mane I see the whole engagement thing with manuals but there's it's fallbacks. I'm much more happy with my automatic GT with the performance package, hearing it gets through those gears with also the usability of the paddles makes it all worth while🥹
Great video. 👍 to The FPV footage. Well done!
Honestly the dark horse should've been twin turbo or supercharged from the factory cause it's being embarrassed by the gt in pretty much every video I've seen
Great video, need more like this please
Not SURE what delusions folks had about any landslide performance differences 20hp would make in this comparison Lol🤔
Huh??? U think horsepower is everything? It's tires, transmission ratios , steering, brakes, intake. Huhhhh lol
@@pfwww12 You apparently and completely misinterpreted what I SAID bruh!🙄...Bottom Line, all things being equal MEANING same track, same day, street, weather conditions, tires, same configuration (front eng, rwd etc) similar weight, etc. etc. 20 extra hp (especially when the car is slightly heavier) won't MEAN MUCH! I SAID what I SAID!!🤔...The actual results HERE, should've clarified my point already 🤨
The drone footage is awesome
So I drove both and bought the dark horse. GT had terrible steering feedback and almost no weight on the steering wheel. Dark Horse great heavier steering and glued on corners. Coming from a 6gen Camaro SS, the Dark Horse is like the perfect love child between the Mustang and Camaro. You get that great Camaro handling and that Mustang top end speed. Usually I change a lot on my cars but with this one I'm just adding LT, CAI, E85. That's all it really needs.
MUSTERO !!!!!!!!
What is lt?
I like this video no more too much talking just racing.
I LOVE my GT!! Take out the Carbon Traps and it's almost the same HP as the Dark Horse and it saved my 15K.
😂 yes ok
You buy a dark horse for the tremec
It’s been proven time and time again you maybe gain 3-6 HP from the carbon trap removal. You’re not gaining 20 HP from that lmaooo. I say this as someone who owns an S650.
And 200 plus pounds 😂😊😂😅
@@rocky_4003fr, people believe everything from standduche
Hennessey needs to make a Dark/Horse upgrade package called Stallion-Spec
The Dark Donkey is literally just an updated 2023 Mach 1. Lets just call it what it is.
That's the point why is it so hard for people to understand
They said that from day dot. Hope that's not a news.
You are 100% right
Maybe Katy Perry was driving the Dark Horse………..😅😅😅
Great video straight up ⬆️
What were their 1/4 mile and 0-60 mph times?
I don't know about the 1/4 but they advertise 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. I have a manual transmission and I will say yep.
This is exactly what I expected.
will be nice to see what y'all come up with for these
Can’t wait for the GTD!
What was the rear end gear ratio on the GT?
I’m not surprised that they were close in a drag race. The Dark Horse is a track car with additional cooling, and weight, to handle long periods of driving on a road course. Plus it has a more robust and likely heavier suspension compared to a non-performance pack GT.
A GT with a active exhaust and similar rear end gear ratio should be just as fast in the drag race. A fraction less horsepower but also less weight.
Lastly, were both cars wearing the same tires?
I believe the Dark horse was running the handling pack which includes 19 x 11 rear wheels with 315 width tires. The GT looked to be running the performance pack wheels that are 19 x 9.5 on the rear with 275 width tires.
Also is 4000lbs 🤣 😂😅
both have a 3.55 rear end
My 2006 zo6 will obliterate this expensive ponys and dark horses 😊😊😊😊😊
@@MarcoPulido-rb7xgwow your 7.0 liter 427 cu. in. that cost almost as much as a dark horse when new would beat these in a race? No fucking way??!!
Nice, quick and to the point. The drone shots are awesome for these races, it really gives an ideal perspective to see the cars racing from above, neck and neck
I want to see a Mach 1 vs Dark Horse comparison. Basically the same cars with 30 hp difference
Mach1 gots 480hp fam
This!
@@meanmugginj only 2021 model year
From early reports so far the Mach 1 seems to be quicker due to the lighter weight.
Straight to the point
Woulda been even more even with each other if the gt had the performance pack added as well.
I think it does
It does just no active exhaust.
The active exhaust is where you get the additional 6hp supposedly
Exactly.
Performance pack doesn’t do anything for straight line speed other than better tires. Gearing is different too but there were tests done in the gen 3s that found non pp vehicles were faster from rolls
That’s a good sounding drag race
I wonder what the difference would be with them both tuned aftermarket..cool video
Same outcome
@@doorkicker8507 I agree, after posting that, someone broke the tuning and during he found cam specs...they are different
No videos get me more hype to watch more than Ford Mustang reviews 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥...Nissan Z comes in close 2nd. But I see Mustang I click !
So get a GT. Got it
Some draggy data would be nice
20 hp more for at least 10k more,no thanks.
Sadly I won't be able to help myself 😞
but the appearance looks much better & more aggressive ☠🔥
Well that extra 10k comes from it's rarity of 900 units only, so it will increase in value later in time but I agree with you, only 20 more horsepower?
It's not just HP. There's mechanical differences that allow it to be pushed much further and more reliability.
You went for the auto dark horse?
I still prefer the S550 Mustang GT
This new generation looks soooo good!
Thats what you pay an extra $15k for. A nicer front bumper and a mild tune...
Handling as well....
Don't forget the tremec trans and predator rods and the suspension
ahh yes, which americans care so much about when they floor it at the drag strip@@mk5rob42
Dark Horse!!!!
It's funny to see that the Mustangs are starting to look more like the Camaros rather than the Camaro looking like the Mustang
I don’t see that and the Camaro is over. The mustang is still charging forward.
@@drp1bb856Charging? Its the only option left. And it's inferior to anything Mopar and GM. Its a turd, dear Ford employee.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports camaro is discontinued and dodge is electric.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ClickbaitMotorsports the first year the mustang was sold internationally it was the the number 1 selling car. Go cope elsewhere
@ClickbaitMotorsports you can dislike it but inferior is just wrong. It's a better S550 and the S550 was the jack of all trades out of the big 3.
Was the 500 mile break in limiter removed from these?
No quad exhaust for GTs anymore? Seems to have cheapened out. They're close on a roll, but from a dig the DH will always win in stock configurations because of more aggressive gearing and trans tuning. The DH shines better in the twisties vs straight-line performance.
Optional quad tips when you get the active exhaust with additional 6hp.
@@voodoodiecast aahh, that's right. Gotcha! But didn't all '18-22 GTs come with quad tips?
@@hellkitty1014 yes all 2018+ came with quad tips which makes this “new” mustang weird to not have quad tips standard.
@@voodoodiecast got it! I always have to ask the Ford guys because I'm not the most knowledgeable on them. But I loved that look when it came out. I assumed that all of the 18+ models got it, whether they were equipped with active exhaust or not. That Dark Horse sounds so good stock!
Exactly what everyone expected 🤣🤣🤣
When the tune comes out that dark horse will be pointless 😭 you could make a dark horse at that point.
Not everybody is worried about a tune
@@boomee78Exactly. And these same people not worried about tunes are the ones that made the S650. Which is why its a slow, heavy, ugly, untunable, turd.
Unfortunately, it will be hard to tune thr 650 because if the encryption on the ECM and even if it is hacked, Ford will know because the car will report it to Ford and the warranty will be void.
In a straight line yeah... But Id be willing to bet on a road course you'd want the DH. Better suspension and more set up for road course things.
In America is all about roll and drag racing 😂
Epic exhaust song. Remins me of the Bullit exhaut sound from he movie.
All that dark horse is is a trim kit lol pretty impressed by that GT though man
Man that dark horse shows where ford made all the improvements straight beast 💪🏾👹
Those who paid like 90k for the darkhorse are probably ready to hang themselves after watching this😂😆
great video... compare DH auto with DH 6 speed would love to see the difference
I still rather have a manual.
It's not the speed of the shift that makes automatic faster in a straight line,it's the gear ratios that make it quicker. Manufacturers are suckering buyers into buying automatic . One reason is to lessen human involvement with the driving experience. To get people people more willing to accept autonomous (self driving).
This is very true!
Automátics are faster. Period . If you want the fun of stick fine but autos are faster nowadays. No comparison.
@@AfriqueNY Electric cars are faster. Period. If you want the sound of an ICE fine but electric is faster nowadays. No comparison.
@@Blas4ublasphemy agreed. Can't wait to get one
@@AfriqueNY LOL, hope you love it. I'll just have to try and enjoy my T56 Camaro, Fiesta ST and Lotus Elise....
That's one hell of a video 👍🔥
And the end of this video, they raced them back to the dealership to trade them in for a s550.
That's about what I would expect between the 2 cars
Looking pretty slow to me
Especially for the price of both. Government emissions standards have turned these new generation Mustangs into duds. But the casual buyer will still get it just because it’s the latest but definitely not the greatest.
@@mikehughes8023Don't blame the government. Ford should have let the Mustang name ride into the sunset as a champ. Like Dodge and GM. Instead, the S650 will be remembered as a slow, heavy, ugly turd.
Stang hate glazer club. Y’all just repeating what ur told.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports For someone that hates them so much, you seem to be weirdly obsessed with watching the videos and commenting about them.
Same rears?
I know the Dark Horse is the more desired car, but not for nothing the regular GT (in my opinion) sounds a bit better. The Dark Horse tone sounds off.
Sounds blatty to me.
Nice Video Ilike ! Mustang and the Arts of !
So save the money and get a GT
If all you care about is driving in a straight line, sure.
I like the Implementation of the FPV footage, whos the pilot? And what's the setup?
Fairly representative of what 20 extra horsepower and a small bit more mechanical grip looks like
Times? Traps?
This just proves the Dark Horse really isn't worth buying, once that 4th gen coyote Ecu is cracked, the DH will be irrelevant
I dont think enough people know that the dark horse is a handling package with a bit more power. Its as fast as an m3 around a track.
I know John Hennessey is a chevy guy , I wonder how he feels about chevy stop producing their v8 sports cars in the near future?? FORD will be the last unicorns with v8s
A pp gt will be identical?
Good video 😮
Is there a huge difference between the gt, gt/cs, Mach 1, dark horse and bullit?
You ride in cars with a automatic but you DRIVE cars with a MANUAL...Real car enthusiasts DRIVE THEIR CARS!!!
James why the heck does a Camaro have the transformer emblem on the steering wheel?
Hennessy keep up the good work 👍 real true and I love the video real true and I love new mustangs look good 💯
Great test video. I don't know why you would ever need more than six gears for a manual or seven for an auto. Can you hit 60 in second gear? If so, what are eight through ten for on the high end?
😮 I want this Beautiful Beast!!!
Even if the difference in power isnt massive, the Dark Horse just looks so much better imho
that is no accident
And how much more money for the dark horse for a car length.
What rear end did both cars have?
Interesting, the darkhorse has more power but also weighs more and the torque difference is so small it might as well not be there. Guess the difference in tuning must just be that good? Maybe intentionally limiting the GT to try to push the Darkhorse sales? Idk what do I know
The Dark Horse is more expensive because it offers a lot more features than the GT. It's not limiting the GT, it just has more to offer making it faster, accelerate faster, etc.
Did the seats match in the Dark horse? 😅
I’m happy with the GT
whats the price difference for 2 car lengths ?