Alien Invasion - Real Life & Movies
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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ALIEN INVASION - REAL LIFE & MOVIES
Ty Franck (one half of James S.A. Corey) and Wes Chatham ('Amos Burton' on The Expanse) decided to do an episode dedicated to alien invasions due to the recent UAP hearings. They talk about the possibility of visitors from another world as well as the best Hollywood alien invasion films.
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Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito.
Maybe the Abyss should have been an honorable mention? If there are big oblong vessels floating above the ocean, I think it's much more likely to be something created in our solar system than visitors from another one.
I thought this would have been mentioned as well
It's interesting those object have some properties of a tesseract.
Check out the book , The Kraken Wakes. That's about underwater Aliens who start to attack humans. Written by John Wyndham who wrote Day of the Triffids
Your last comments about the anthill reminded me of Hitchhiker's Guide where the aliens blew up earth to make way for hyperspace bypass (and they knew we were here). Which made me think of comedy alien movies like Evolution. Neither of these really fit the 3 categories.
The Day of the Triffids is an antiutopian novel turned into a series and movies, and it's not about an alien invasion. The triffuds are carnivore plants found in the jungle and used for extracting a special oil from them. Farmed across the world when the meteor shower happens...
You should read the novel, it's a classic. The movie and the series (the old one and the new one from the 2000's ) are not even close to the original.
Late seventies, Oklahoma. I remember my folks talking about dozens and dozens of V shaped UFO reports. ten years later the Stealth Fighter and Bomber were made public. Tinker Air Force Base is just outside of Oklahoma City, right in the middle of the state. Lol.
F-117 was developed in the 70s, tested a lot in the 80s, deployed in Gulf War 1 - you are not wrong
I love Starman! I still quote "Yellow means go faster"!
There's a forgotten movie with Milla Jovovich called The Fourth kind (2009).
I’m with you Ty. I love Mars Attacks
I'm with Ty on the Alien-topic ... delusions know no limits. And intellect does not protect you from delusions.
I hope I never get that dumb.
i fucking love this podcast dude
damn right! same here 👏🏻
When I was a kid, I figured a war of the worlds would be the end of school. I was cool with that.
I can't believe I haven't heard either of these guys even mention Altered...
To Ty's point about the 6th generation fighters, you can trace the evolution of UFOs through aeronautics. In the 40s and 50s, they were cigar-shaped; the next big aerospace development was the Saber jet (a silver cigar). In the 60s and 70s, UFOs were saucers, out comes attack helicopters like the Apache. In the 80s and 90, triangles were the rage, B-2 and F-117 anyone?
It's the same with dinosaur-sightings. For some reason they always look like how science depicts them at that time.
The 1953 Georg Pal War of the Words is vastly superior to the 2005 Spielberg version. I has a street smart modernization and is lightning fast paced , the movie is only 90 min. long. Interesting characters and clever dialog. I think it gets forgotten, 70 years old this year.
I also like the other and more alternate universe adaption of John W Campbell's Who Goes There , The Think from Another World , 1951, produced by Howard Hawks , and the cast says directed by Howard Hawks , one of the best 'look out it's loose' films ever made.
Forgot starship troopers.. they definitely ate brains in that one
Regards the pilots and the UAPs, it has been pointed out the cameras used by the fighters were not using the same wavelengths as human vision. That along with the cameras being stabilised so they keep the object in frame despite the host aircraft's manoeuvrers, means the object's apparent movements are a product of the camera system, not the object itself.
You guys missed lots!
- If you are going to count ET, then you gotta count District 9 as that is just a whole bunch of ET's that stranded here.
- Alien Nation (the movie that become a TV series) is also up for discussion.
- Slither from James Gunn was an alien parasite
- The Faculty where Frodo and Usher had to save us from the alien teacher snatchers
- While it isn't a full invasion.. Predator can't be not discussed.
- Every Tom Cruise movie as I'm pretty sure he's one of the Reptilians (RIP People of Earth).
- And let's be clear if it wasn't for Alex, we would have all been conquered by the Kodan Armada so you have to include The Last Starfighter.
As for the UAP and aliens.. All these "Its Aliens!" idjits are idjits. Their thinking is, "We don't know what something was, therefore I know what it was".
Another genre to consider: superhero alien invasion movies. Superman 2, Man of Steel, The Avengers, Thor, Captain Marvel, Venom, Justice League, etc. Did you mention Men in Black? Monsters vs Aliens is one of my favorites - goofy fun.
With Oblivion, I rationalized that the aliens were traveling through space and stopped at Earth, as a sort of gas station, to fill the gas tank so to speak.Yeah still doesn't really hold up, but avoids the "They came to Earth specifically" theory.
Regarding the alien topic, i think it's worth going by the famous quote "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". As Ty says, witness testimonies aren't strong evidence and even someone with a high education can be tricked, believe something false or such.
I also think it's interesting how the majority of UFO claims come from the US and how there's generally an increase in claims following a movie with UFOs. It does hint of a desire to believe and how masses can influence each other to join in on the belief
Yes! 100% agree with Ty's skepticism and rational outlooks! The ONLY thing I would add to question the "Wedny's" analogy of dismissing aliens coming here for resources, is if you consider the Kardashev Scale of civilizations... by definition, any civilization CAPABLE of interstellar travel, would have to have likely used up (or spoiled) the useable resources in their own system to maintain that level of civilization. So it wouldn't my unreasonable to come here *IF* we're essentially next door
Great show. Really enjoyed this one. Nice to hear a John Wyndham story get a mention. Loved his books as a kid, especially The Kraken Wakes. Film I'd have added to the 'meeting aliens' category: David Bowie in The Man Who Fell to Earth.
Wes Chatham: "I don't believe in any of this."
(Proceeds to believe in all of this.)
Don't forget Quatermass and the Pit. A scary movie reminiscent of Body Snatchers.
Stargate is an interesting twist on the alien invasion trope because the invasion happened in Earth's distant past and the movie becomes about stopping them from destroying us with an augmented captured nuclear bomb after we stumble upon them using the titular Stargate.
And it seems to me that although the Alien movies aren't about the invasion of Earth, the through-line for them all is that allowing the xenomorph to be turned into a bio-tech weapon on Earth would be a Jurassic Park level "life finds a way" bad thing.
Are you guys gonna play the expanse telltale game? Please do!! Would love to see you guys on it xD
Love the show, especially the sci-fi and Expanse related episodes. Keep up the good work!
Reminds me of a weird signal a radio telescope picked up for several days at the same time which astronomers couldn't explain for a while... And the explanation apparently was that someone always made a cup of tea in a microwave?
specifically, people were making food in the microwave and opening the door one second early without hitting 'cancel': when you do that some microwave radiation gets outside the oven, fraction-of-a-second bursts that aren't enough to hurt a human but can definitely be picked up by a radio telescope pointed that direction and listening in the 2.4gHz range.
a podcast with the co writer of the expanse and wes chatham as hosts? how have i not seen this before?
Thanks guys!
Under the "aliens are here to be our friends" category, my #1 is Batteries Not Included
I would strongly recommend the Skeptics Guide to the Galaxy podcast if you want to get a rational explanation for so-called alien visitations.
Invasion of Body Snatchers and Day of the Triffids were both written at the start of 20th Century by tue British author, John Windham. Another great story of his is The Chrysalids.
What a fun topic for this show!
What are your thoughts on Annihilation?
Good stuff gents
Mars Attacks is my favorite Tim Burton movie. And I love Batman ‘89. But MA is so silly but also oddly hopeful, and as ironic as it might sound, it has very pacifist underpinnings.
Edge of Tomorrow is fantastic. It works so well, and it’s such a surprisingly good adaptation of the source material.
The original The Day the Earth Stood Still is a classic that still works and is just as relevant today.
Why did they change "UFO" to "UAP?" Rebranding.
Why aren't we talking about the thing.. oh he just said it lol
If I remember correctly, not all of the movie adaptations of "The Day of the Triffids" depict them as Aliens. In the book it wasn't stated, and in 2/3 of them they were indigenous to earth (Or created by man).
Battleship is a guilty pleasure of mine, there is a much better movie hidden within it.
For the honourable mention: Klowns > Critters, but Klowns
Friendly aliens - how did you miss Cocoon?
First of all, I am of the opinion that intelligent life is EXTREMELY RARE in our universe. And distances are SO vast. There's a theory that there is probably one intelligent species per GALAXY!! I tend to agree with that.
The Hidden is a great B film. But I would say its comes under the Genre Alien Crime/Cop movie. Alien Nation is another similar one and Dark Angel.. oh what about District 9?
Hard to suspend disbelief with alien invasion films because if they can invade us they can turn us into molecular mush. It works best when its a comedy or doesn't focus on the aliens.
I have to be honest - due to my own prejudices- I automatically assumed Ty and Wes would be totally “UFOs are real man” cos they’re American 😂 apologies for that!
It is weird though how it seems to be such a big thing in the states. No one in Scotland worries about Aliens 😂
Starman was a great movie and I watched so many times, and edge of tomorrow, I never get tired of. But I was disapointed I didn't here the last starfighter or flight of the navigator
I see you Wes- RE: Fraggle Rock
How could anyone not like The Hidden?
I agree with the guys, Starman is brilliant
Hello... SLITHER?!?! By James Gunn?!?! SUPER 8?!?! By JJ Abrams?!?!
Amos a lot of the things he's said has been proven right.
The school thing. in 2004 or 2014 we've actually made an unstable version of Element 115 Yes it's unstable but if it's unstable now there is a stable version of it even though we can't make it!
Not only that in the tic tac video/the David fraver video
The craft literally moved exactly like Bob Lazar said It tilted up and it moved forward towards its belly
Quatermass and the Pit 1967. Thats a great horror Alien film that mixes superstition with science
guys if you want to have a minimum approximation of the size of the universe and the distances between planets and stars that a spaceship should travel i recommend playing a couple of hours of space engine game. increase the speed of travel to the speed of light and try to reach any place
It would be like Ray Walston
its the protomolecule 🤔😜 lol
Wes needs to watch the Corridor Crew videos on debunking UFO videos. They do an amazing job explaining everything.
damned good
Finally live die & repeat
The 1950s were full of alien invasion films, some of the best. This island earth, the day the earth stood still, it came from outer space. Not all the aliens were here to eat our brains and gain our knowledge. Unless they wanted to "serve" man...😅
30 = a long time
What about now? I’m free now.
The real world is much more "magical" than any man-made superstition.
You guys forgot that some people didn't wish to see anything. They had an experience that can't explain, therefore, the explanation they do relies on the culture and background of each one. The problem relies in the desire to explain. People are not satisfied to accept that there are something beyond that can't explain. The great necessity is the necessity to create an explanation. This is the great problem. Some people gain interest on the subject after a "supernatural" experience, not before. For me, the great problem is that complete absurd stories are mixed with the ones that deserve more attention, and the necessity to give an explanation, to create a logic, as I said.
If there are alien ships buzzing the Earth (and no doubt buzzing the inhabitants of many other planets who also have no clue) they're doing a great job of never appearing in front of any stars, or in front of the moon, and never showing up in any astronomical photography. Meanwhile, we've got uncountable numbers of StarLink satellite streaks showing up in telescope images every day, and you sure can't miss the ISS whenever it overflies your area.
So no one is going to acknowledge the eyebrow NOT in the room?
THE PILOTS ARE NOT EXPERTS IN PHOTOGRAPHY.
Why can't we attributes it to one of the following?
Accidental time travelers from a mirror universe before the time of the prime directive
• Klingons
• Romulans
• Cardassians
• Borg
• Ferengi
• Andorians
• Gorn
• Lanthanites
• Vulcans
• Bajorans
• Changelings
• Tellerites
• Aenar
• Betazoids
Cylons
What about predator...
Hmm. Good point but I'm not sure if it counts bc Predator wasn't really invading, it was hunting for sport. The Thing monster had high potential to destroy humanity. Predator could do a lot of damage but couldn't end the world alone.
Fair point... If it has to be existential for humanity, what about Infinity War/End Game?
@@GR-wp4wbI guess it depends on how one classifies them. They're kind of a combo of superhero & sci-fi movies so could technically be considered?
Shame! Shame! Shame! You didn't discuss or include Ray Harryhausen's Earth Vs. The Flying Saucers!
Men in Black?
Controversial take; Close Encounters is a fucking horrible movie. I don’t think it was mentioned that Starman spawned a short lived TV series. Shout out to the Abel Ferrara Body Snatchers, but I think the original 1956 is the best version.
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