I'm not a Lumix S user, but every time I see their f1.8 primes, I want to get them so bad. Their unified form factor is so AESTHETIC and pleasing to watch.
I have two of them and it is suuuuch a great thing! I had Sony before and the 35 1.8 and 85 1.8 are great in IQ, but each prime has a different look to the image and size and handling, the lumix experience and then matching pictures later all so much better.
The entire 1.8 line its amazing, tip tier quality but human price. The fact they share filter and almost the weight its a game changer,you can change multiple prime witouth recalibrate gimbal or yourself…
Holy.. I just purchased Sigma 105mm f2.8 macro and it's pretty impressive, but this basically perform the same with half the size and weight, and from the video, the autofocus is certainly much better. The shorter footprint also allow easier lighting for the closest subject. This is a killer lens for L-mount!
I think it's safe to say - welcome back Panasonic!! They always had interesting stuff but they were always a bit of a niche. With the S5 II/ X and this it looks like they are slowly growing , similar to what happned to Nikon. Each competitor is good for us consumers , So now Sony vs Nikon Vs Canon Vs Panaonic can yield some amazing advancements and innovations.
When I heard that this lens was released I went looking for reviews and I was pleased that you were one of those people who had it early. I no longer do a lot of dedicated macro work,, so I have been just fine with my old 100 mm 2.8 Minolta with an adapter on my S5. This lens could definitely change my thinking. The size of the Sigma L mount lens was definitely a discouraging factor.. but with this size profile I can see me using this as a portrait lens and a macro lens all-in-one in the field,, meaning I could carry less glass.. nice review ..Happy New Year and thanks!!
This seems like a perfect macro lens. I’m very happy with no optical stabilization if it means keeping that very small form factor. It doesn’t get much better than this really.
I'm sort of torn between this lens and the Sigma 100-400mm f5-6,3 DG DN. I need a good telephoto lens for hobby wildlife/sports, which would push me towards Sigma, but the versatility and quality of the S 100mm is really tempting. I'm wondering if I can make due with the 100mm, most wildlife I shoot is not that far away anyway...
I'm still in a dilemma about whether to go for the FX30 or S5II. Currently, I'm using the Panasonic G85, and it's a beast when I shoot wedding videos, especially solo. Panasonic stabilization is a must for me; however, I kind of prefer Sony's color looks and the variety of their third-party lenses. Unfortunately, I can't go with Sony's amateur stabilization. I don't want the hassle of using Catalyst Browse software for each set of 100 clips. I've never used a Vlog PP on Panasonic because the G85 lacks log profiles. I'm not sure if it is similar to Sony's S log, allowing me to use a variety of LUTs.
I loved the colors of the A7Riii- the S5ii are similar (I think I still prefer the A7riii), but I gave up sony due to stabilization. it was clear that I was never to get the advanced features in bodies below 3k cost, and I do lots of video. I had to throw away so much footage due to micro jitters...
Great review. May I suggest making more extensive use of your S5 IIx's pixel shift feature when reviewing lenses, as a way to work around the lower pixel density of the camera and better stress the lp/mm resolving ability of the lens. This will help those of us who shoot a higher-MP L-Mount camera like the S1R, and those who use the pixel shift feature on a regular basis.
Thank you! Pixel shift doesn't work like that. It is not a substitute for high-res sensor in the sense that it reveals resolving capabilities of the lens. It basically bypasses the de-bayering process by acquiring exact values for all 4 sub-pixels, but it does so using the same resolving capabilities as in the non-pixel shift mode. Judging the resolving capabilities of a lans using a pixel shift mode would be very misleading.
@@TheHybridShooter There are two distinct methods of action in pixel shift. The first is as you described, shifting by whole pixels so that every pixel is fully chroma sampled, which doesn't increase luma resolution but does increase chroma resolution while also reducing demosaicing artifacts. The second method is shifting by sub-pixels, ie 1/2 pixels, which actually does increase resolution because it samples at intervals between pixels, which does approximate a higher density sensor albeit with some resolution-limiting effects such as microlens offsets for the sub-pixels.
@BobWilliams-kk1zz It doesn't really matter which method is used. Optical imperfections are captured at photosite (sub-pixel) level and that will always be 4 times larger on a 24 MP sensor than on a real 96 MP sensor. Pixel shift can do nothing about that. Shifting by sub-pixels is still happening in order to capture exact value of each sub-pixel. This process does not approximate higher-resolution sensor. It enhances the image within the resolving limits of the lens at given resolution. It won't reveal more imperfections in the same way that 96 MP sensor would, it will just give you the best possible image quality that is possible with 24 MP sensor. That is evident with Sony pixel shift which offers both 4 shot ( which keeps the resolution at 60 MP) and 16 shot (which increases the resolution to 240 MP) modes, but the 4 shot mode captures the same amount of detail as the 16 shot mode, whilst keeping original resolution. I have talked about that in my A7R IV review. The only difference is that you can either get 60 MP file with bypassed de-bayering (4 shot mode) or debayered 240 MP file with the same amount of detail.
"I will test it with a higher pixel density resolution body in the future" hahaha, man, you give us always the goodies! (I remember the G9ii slip a few months back)
I have to disappoint you, I have no information about Panasonic’s upcoming or not upcoming high-res body. I intend to borrow 5yo S1R to retest some L-mount lenses. Saying that I have tested unrumored camera with better IBIS was hardly a G9 II slip, I don’t think that anybody even guessed that correctly :)
I don't think that anybody cares about Leica branding when it comes to more serious products. I am also surprised that it is not a red badge lens, I don't think that it is tied to "Leica certification".
*1 Year with Panasonic S5 II / S5 II X* - Successful Comeback - ua-cam.com/video/XY0ghnZegZc/v-deo.html
I'm not a Lumix S user, but every time I see their f1.8 primes, I want to get them so bad. Their unified form factor is so AESTHETIC and pleasing to watch.
I have two of them and it is suuuuch a great thing! I had Sony before and the 35 1.8 and 85 1.8 are great in IQ, but each prime has a different look to the image and size and handling, the lumix experience and then matching pictures later all so much better.
The entire 1.8 line its amazing, tip tier quality but human price. The fact they share filter and almost the weight its a game changer,you can change multiple prime witouth recalibrate gimbal or yourself…
Holy.. I just purchased Sigma 105mm f2.8 macro and it's pretty impressive, but this basically perform the same with half the size and weight, and from the video, the autofocus is certainly much better. The shorter footprint also allow easier lighting for the closest subject. This is a killer lens for L-mount!
I think it's safe to say - welcome back Panasonic!!
They always had interesting stuff but they were always a bit of a niche.
With the S5 II/ X and this it looks like they are slowly growing , similar to what happned to Nikon.
Each competitor is good for us consumers , So now Sony vs Nikon Vs Canon Vs Panaonic can yield some amazing advancements and innovations.
When I heard that this lens was released I went looking for reviews and I was pleased that you were one of those people who had it early. I no longer do a lot of dedicated macro work,, so I have been just fine with my old 100 mm 2.8 Minolta with an adapter on my S5. This lens could definitely change my thinking. The size of the Sigma L mount lens was definitely a discouraging factor.. but with this size profile I can see me using this as a portrait lens and a macro lens all-in-one in the field,, meaning I could carry less glass.. nice review ..Happy New Year and thanks!!
Nice! More Lumix content!
This seems like a perfect macro lens. I’m very happy with no optical stabilization if it means keeping that very small form factor. It doesn’t get much better than this really.
Great video, wonderful lens. Thank You for showing. Best regards, Kai the bee filmer.
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
Great and informative review covering the most important aspect of this lens, Good that Panasonic is introducing new lenses in their L-mount lineup.
Wow, very impressive, especially considering the form factor. Excellent review once again!
Thank you!
@@TheHybridShooter Would love a comparison if possible b/w the sigma 105mm, Sony 90mm and this lens.
This is a great achievement by Panasonic
No way, this is amazing!
This is crazy, a game changer I would say
Excellent review, thank you.
Thank you!
I'm sort of torn between this lens and the Sigma 100-400mm f5-6,3 DG DN. I need a good telephoto lens for hobby wildlife/sports, which would push me towards Sigma, but the versatility and quality of the S 100mm is really tempting. I'm wondering if I can make due with the 100mm, most wildlife I shoot is not that far away anyway...
Great review and great Omegas.
Thank you!
It’s size and feature is amazing .
Great review, looks like a great lens
Thank you!
I'm still in a dilemma about whether to go for the FX30 or S5II. Currently, I'm using the Panasonic G85, and it's a beast when I shoot wedding videos, especially solo. Panasonic stabilization is a must for me; however, I kind of prefer Sony's color looks and the variety of their third-party lenses. Unfortunately, I can't go with Sony's amateur stabilization. I don't want the hassle of using Catalyst Browse software for each set of 100 clips. I've never used a Vlog PP on Panasonic because the G85 lacks log profiles. I'm not sure if it is similar to Sony's S log, allowing me to use a variety of LUTs.
Panasonic all the way
No matter the system, use a gimbal if stabilization is important to you.
I loved the colors of the A7Riii- the S5ii are similar (I think I still prefer the A7riii), but I gave up sony due to stabilization. it was clear that I was never to get the advanced features in bodies below 3k cost, and I do lots of video. I had to throw away so much footage due to micro jitters...
@@professionalpotato4764nah that's clinical af
Vlog is way easier and nicer to work with than Sony's Slog :)
The size and weight is excellent for the TL2
good review.
Thank you!
Great review. May I suggest making more extensive use of your S5 IIx's pixel shift feature when reviewing lenses, as a way to work around the lower pixel density of the camera and better stress the lp/mm resolving ability of the lens. This will help those of us who shoot a higher-MP L-Mount camera like the S1R, and those who use the pixel shift feature on a regular basis.
Thank you! Pixel shift doesn't work like that. It is not a substitute for high-res sensor in the sense that it reveals resolving capabilities of the lens. It basically bypasses the de-bayering process by acquiring exact values for all 4 sub-pixels, but it does so using the same resolving capabilities as in the non-pixel shift mode. Judging the resolving capabilities of a lans using a pixel shift mode would be very misleading.
@@TheHybridShooter There are two distinct methods of action in pixel shift. The first is as you described, shifting by whole pixels so that every pixel is fully chroma sampled, which doesn't increase luma resolution but does increase chroma resolution while also reducing demosaicing artifacts. The second method is shifting by sub-pixels, ie 1/2 pixels, which actually does increase resolution because it samples at intervals between pixels, which does approximate a higher density sensor albeit with some resolution-limiting effects such as microlens offsets for the sub-pixels.
@BobWilliams-kk1zz It doesn't really matter which method is used. Optical imperfections are captured at photosite (sub-pixel) level and that will always be 4 times larger on a 24 MP sensor than on a real 96 MP sensor. Pixel shift can do nothing about that.
Shifting by sub-pixels is still happening in order to capture exact value of each sub-pixel. This process does not approximate higher-resolution sensor. It enhances the image within the resolving limits of the lens at given resolution. It won't reveal more imperfections in the same way that 96 MP sensor would, it will just give you the best possible image quality that is possible with 24 MP sensor.
That is evident with Sony pixel shift which offers both 4 shot ( which keeps the resolution at 60 MP) and 16 shot (which increases the resolution to 240 MP) modes, but the 4 shot mode captures the same amount of detail as the 16 shot mode, whilst keeping original resolution. I have talked about that in my A7R IV review.
The only difference is that you can either get 60 MP file with bypassed de-bayering (4 shot mode) or debayered 240 MP file with the same amount of detail.
"I will test it with a higher pixel density resolution body in the future" hahaha, man, you give us always the goodies! (I remember the G9ii slip a few months back)
I have to disappoint you, I have no information about Panasonic’s upcoming or not upcoming high-res body. I intend to borrow 5yo S1R to retest some L-mount lenses.
Saying that I have tested unrumored camera with better IBIS was hardly a G9 II slip, I don’t think that anybody even guessed that correctly :)
@@TheHybridShooter so saaaaad ;-)
You will revisit this Lens with a high resolution sensor? Next Lumix S1Rii? 😊
I don’t know anything about S1R II, I intend to borrow regular S1R to retest some L-mount lenses.
it looks very short, but, it lacks OIS
you wont need it. the ibis of the s5ii is so good
@@sundaydr1ve Won't need it is a relative term. OIS is more effective at this kind of focal length... it is a compromise to achieve that size.
Not even an S PRO lens with the red badge. I guess Leica didn't approve...haha
@@AIP404 So does Leica use Panasonic's designs and manufacture or the other way around?
I don't think that anybody cares about Leica branding when it comes to more serious products. I am also surprised that it is not a red badge lens, I don't think that it is tied to "Leica certification".
@@spakecdk Most manufacturers outsource lens design these days, so probably neither. We will never know unless some patent leaks.