Wow. So much lore crammed into such a short clip. It's a shame we never got the sequel or prequels. Would love to see this turned into an anime or film series. ❤
Reading the perfect works, xenogears is truly the story of two wishes locked against eachother, wave existence vs deus, and the hilarity that ensues over the course of 10 thousand years
@@LeoTheLion17 I could have done a long winded lore dump but I wanted to keep it pretty succinct and as relevant to what is actually going on in the fmv without going _too_ far out of scope. Maybe one day I’ll do a “timeline” episode.
Its been more than 20 years and this game ia still the talk of the town. Yall are gonna make me go get that PS1 or PS2 and Xenogwars so I can play it again.
yeah when i reached babel tower i thought it was a maze but it was a large colony of the elritch ship and the floating weapon was the laser cannons that lead to the ruins of the ship where the floating city that fei saw in the desert was shevat which was the roof top of babel tower
Really uncanny how there are things from here that are in the xenosaga series like the planet Michtam, the Zohar, lost Jerusalem, and Abel, who was a test pilot for an omnigear in xenosaga 3. Zarathustra is also mentioned in xenogears but vaguely. So many similarities and cross references between the two series.
I would recommend you research the Xenosaga series from the creation and business perspective to see why. For legal reasons they could not be tied together the two series due to Square owning the rights to the Xenogears universe. So they had to make the xenosaga games have the same universe and continuity without referencing directly the Xenogears information. It was a way of getting around the copyright and allowing the series to go forward with a different company.
Oh, Resonant Arc here on youtube does a Xenogears deep dive that is very deep and thorough, I recommend it. They did a great job and you will learn a lot that gamers would never have known otherwise. Sad that business has to kill off promising universes like Xenogears and Lodoss War.
One of the reasons this game has become such a cult classic is that it's truly a labor of love. Usually these fancy CGI openings are mostly just there for the fluff. And the technical jargon is somewhat nonsensical just for the sake of it. But in this game, even the OP fit perfectly with the entire game even if it would take you another 60+ hours of game playing before it fully made sense. It's the type of attention to detail that you rarely see in any entertainment media.
Honestly having the wreckage of the eldritch be the tower of babel, is incredible to me. I was dumbfounded as to why the rooms were all sideways and the general geometry was odd. ncredited attention to detail that isn't even mentioned in the game. I guess I was so wrapped up in playing I didn't notice.
So the mission was top secret, and since their Coms were taken over they couldnt send out an SOS. So therefore in the vastness of space the few who knew really didnt know where the Eldritch blew up, and after almost 10000 years probably forgotten with time. But interesting to think that there are human civilizations somewhere in the galaxy that are 10000 years even further advanced than what was already impressive tech. Assuming they didnt wipe themselves out of course.
Wao Even I understood this, thank you. This game is soooo convoluted but SOOOO GOOOD!. Thank you for taking the time for research and recording for us.
speculation: Deus wanted to go to Lost Jerusalem because Raziel's Tree indicated that this was the original of humans, and humans are organic material in which Deus could restore itself.
@@RetrogradeAmnesia any speculation is valid since the xenosaga version of lost jerusalem is seemingly different than xenogears' (example: in saga, no one knows where lost jerusalem is, but in xenogears, the controller on the eldridge knew the coordinates). Granted, xenogears takes place after saga so it's possible they eventually came to know the location, but all perfect works says about Earth is that it after humans left earth, they deemed it a forbidden planet to which no one should ever go but it's never specified why. i would have to assume that Earth is empty of human life, though I think the "humans" we see in xenogears only look that way because Deus extracted the data from Razael and made "human" in that recognizable form. If you remember, the gazel wanted to use the Gaeta key to turn the "humans" into their true form, the Wels, which are the real parts for Deus. It seems the whole "human" concept was just a form of control, a system that required breeding to which Wels could not do, or maybe because Fei was the only true human and had a connection to the Zohar post crash landing, kadomony had to adapt until they were ready to be turned in Wels, though Krelian side-stepped this process a lot with nanotechnology.
Can someone remind me why Deus or Kadamony needs to "reunite" with the Zohar? Did I miss something obvious, like that it wasn't onboard? Otherwise Kadamony could construct an intelligent chimera with specific anatomy to dig around through the wreckage... no? It's supposed to be able to manipulate the building blocks.
the lost jerusalem, like in Xenosaga ? Also a things i wonder, i know xxenosaga and xenogears are linked, but where they can be placed on the time line ? Also, does the xenoblade can be attacjed ?
yes and no. xenogears and xenosaga are technically two entirely separate IPs from a legal definition because Monolith did not own the IP rights to Xenogears. Xenosaga episodes 1-3 is a reimagining of the events prior to Xenogears but there are a lot of similarities and call backs, this includes the Xenoblade games as well, though it's a completely separate story that again shares a lot of the same themes as their previous works
I remember hearing that this story was supposed to be FF7 but was rejected by SE, something about the games themes being too dark... but the story was good enough to get its own title: Xenogears.
@@Crypt0Band1t The game originally was supposed to be on 4 discs. But was cut short due to budget and time. Also FF8 was right around the corner and Square invested more on that. Back then we didn't have delays, there were deadlines and that's it. It's too bad Square will likely never finish the series with episode 6 or even remake this one. Can you imagine how much worse it will be in the snowflake / woke generation. It will be a stripped down version.
Now i'm wondering: why did the captain say "they are planning"? It is simply referring to Deus as a tripartite being (Zohar, Deus and Kadomony) or there is someone who intentionally "hacked" Deus? I think that the correct answer is the first one, because in the second one all sense of the contrast between Deus and the Wave of Existence is lost, but I'm not sure
The actual answer is a mistranslation. See, the person who translated the intro had NO context for the rest of the game. It really should say something Deus is attacking but it was translated as “they”. Also, when you hear the operator say Omega1 and Alpha1, in your head put a period or exclamation point instead of a comma and that’s is the proper syntax translated correctly as well.
@@carfo thanks man! This little thing was wandering in my head for months after finishing the game! It's just sad to realise that we probably will not see again a game like this. Of course Xenogears was not perfect, but all the things surrounding the game and, mainly, the plot made me love this game, at the point that it became my favourite JRPG.
Aaahhh so it's a series. no wonder the opening makes absolutely no sense until now. Always did have a feeling that meowing was the surviving character though that seemed pretty obvious after playing it so many times.. I've always juggled back and forth between final fantasy VII and this being the best PlayStation game of all time. Honestly the only reason I would say final fantasy VII is better it's because I don't have to do so much freaking reading.. but here I am 25 years later still playing via Duckstation and ROM!
Probably not, unfortunately. A remaster would not fix the glairing holes on disc 2, as well as the 2 missing discs worth of content to make the story complete. Square really messed this one up.
Wow. So much lore crammed into such a short clip. It's a shame we never got the sequel or prequels. Would love to see this turned into an anime or film series. ❤
Reading the perfect works, xenogears is truly the story of two wishes locked against eachother, wave existence vs deus, and the hilarity that ensues over the course of 10 thousand years
Oh the hijinks 😂
Been waiting for this explanation since 1998. Thank you!
Resonant Arc is doing a retrospective of this, and it took them hours to explain the intro lol
Yea those guys are awesome lol
@@carfo I'm impressed you got it down to just 10 minutes
@@LeoTheLion17 I could have done a long winded lore dump but I wanted to keep it pretty succinct and as relevant to what is actually going on in the fmv without going _too_ far out of scope. Maybe one day I’ll do a “timeline” episode.
I posted a link to your original video on that episode.
"I hope you got all that. Every bit of it will be on the test tomorrow."
Its been more than 20 years and this game ia still the talk of the town. Yall are gonna make me go get that PS1 or PS2 and Xenogwars so I can play it again.
If you own a physical copy, just emulate it. It should work these days, surely.
yeah when i reached babel tower i thought it was a maze but it was a large colony of the elritch ship and the floating weapon was the laser cannons that lead to the ruins of the ship where the floating city that fei saw in the desert was shevat which was the roof top of babel tower
so i have resonant arc for longevity and this one for direct in the point explanation. Thanks!
Such a incredible plot! This game changed my life!
Very well said. I still come back to this game from time to time.
Really uncanny how there are things from here that are in the xenosaga series like the planet Michtam, the Zohar, lost Jerusalem, and Abel, who was a test pilot for an omnigear in xenosaga 3. Zarathustra is also mentioned in xenogears but vaguely. So many similarities and cross references between the two series.
I would recommend you research the Xenosaga series from the creation and business perspective to see why. For legal reasons they could not be tied together the two series due to Square owning the rights to the Xenogears universe. So they had to make the xenosaga games have the same universe and continuity without referencing directly the Xenogears information. It was a way of getting around the copyright and allowing the series to go forward with a different company.
Oh, Resonant Arc here on youtube does a Xenogears deep dive that is very deep and thorough, I recommend it. They did a great job and you will learn a lot that gamers would never have known otherwise. Sad that business has to kill off promising universes like Xenogears and Lodoss War.
One of the reasons this game has become such a cult classic is that it's truly a labor of love. Usually these fancy CGI openings are mostly just there for the fluff. And the technical jargon is somewhat nonsensical just for the sake of it. But in this game, even the OP fit perfectly with the entire game even if it would take you another 60+ hours of game playing before it fully made sense. It's the type of attention to detail that you rarely see in any entertainment media.
Honestly having the wreckage of the eldritch be the tower of babel, is incredible to me. I was dumbfounded as to why the rooms were all sideways and the general geometry was odd. ncredited attention to detail that isn't even mentioned in the game. I guess I was so wrapped up in playing I didn't notice.
I was so fed up to keep falling again and again I didn't notice. 😂
As shown in this excellent explanation, Xenogears makes Three Body Problem seem insignificant by comparison haha. 😆
You know what they say about project Zohar.
You can't stop the Zohar!
So the mission was top secret, and since their Coms were taken over they couldnt send out an SOS. So therefore in the vastness of space the few who knew really didnt know where the Eldritch blew up, and after almost 10000 years probably forgotten with time. But interesting to think that there are human civilizations somewhere in the galaxy that are 10000 years even further advanced than what was already impressive tech. Assuming they didnt wipe themselves out of course.
Wao Even I understood this, thank you. This game is soooo convoluted but SOOOO GOOOD!. Thank you for taking the time for research and recording for us.
I had to slow it down to .75 to understand it all lol
Fantastic video I'm doing another playthrough of this classic on an emulator with 4k and this got me hyped!
Really nice and succinct explanation.
I've waited 26 years for this explanation lol THANK YOU
Thank you for this. Frikken terrifiying.
You fixed a lot in this one from your first one, good job.
Thanks! I didn’t mention the “fakenet” was likely some kind of network containment trap but I think I got mostly everything else right.
Labyrinth, hall of mirrors
Woooooooow, mind blown. I had no idea babel tower was the space ship in the beginning! Holy shit.
Was part 6 ever released?
Unfortunately, no. Square never cultivated this IP and the studio that headed the project left to for Monolothsoft.
Excelente trabajo 👏 👍 💪
¡gracias! Estoy trabajando en un nuevo vídeo. Espero lanzarlo pronto
Neat! A remaster!
Hey uh…
Quick question… why did Deus want to return to Lost Jerusalem?
It’s never explained why deus wanted to go there.
Wonder if fleshed out the idea in Xenosaga…
speculation: Deus wanted to go to Lost Jerusalem because Raziel's Tree indicated that this was the original of humans, and humans are organic material in which Deus could restore itself.
@@RetrogradeAmnesia any speculation is valid since the xenosaga version of lost jerusalem is seemingly different than xenogears' (example: in saga, no one knows where lost jerusalem is, but in xenogears, the controller on the eldridge knew the coordinates). Granted, xenogears takes place after saga so it's possible they eventually came to know the location, but all perfect works says about Earth is that it after humans left earth, they deemed it a forbidden planet to which no one should ever go but it's never specified why. i would have to assume that Earth is empty of human life, though I think the "humans" we see in xenogears only look that way because Deus extracted the data from Razael and made "human" in that recognizable form. If you remember, the gazel wanted to use the Gaeta key to turn the "humans" into their true form, the Wels, which are the real parts for Deus. It seems the whole "human" concept was just a form of control, a system that required breeding to which Wels could not do, or maybe because Fei was the only true human and had a connection to the Zohar post crash landing, kadomony had to adapt until they were ready to be turned in Wels, though Krelian side-stepped this process a lot with nanotechnology.
@@carfo it's interesting, because i think Deus was created in Lost Jerusalem
2024 of june here
Can someone remind me why Deus or Kadamony needs to "reunite" with the Zohar? Did I miss something obvious, like that it wasn't onboard? Otherwise Kadamony could construct an intelligent chimera with specific anatomy to dig around through the wreckage... no? It's supposed to be able to manipulate the building blocks.
the lost jerusalem, like in Xenosaga ?
Also a things i wonder, i know xxenosaga and xenogears are linked, but where they can be placed on the time line ?
Also, does the xenoblade can be attacjed ?
yes and no. xenogears and xenosaga are technically two entirely separate IPs from a legal definition because Monolith did not own the IP rights to Xenogears. Xenosaga episodes 1-3 is a reimagining of the events prior to Xenogears but there are a lot of similarities and call backs, this includes the Xenoblade games as well, though it's a completely separate story that again shares a lot of the same themes as their previous works
Such and amazing story
Game developer : this is will be another Final Fantasy series
Squaresoft: how about no
I remember hearing that this story was supposed to be FF7 but was rejected by SE, something about the games themes being too dark... but the story was good enough to get its own title: Xenogears.
@@Crypt0Band1t The game originally was supposed to be on 4 discs. But was cut short due to budget and time. Also FF8 was right around the corner and Square invested more on that.
Back then we didn't have delays, there were deadlines and that's it.
It's too bad Square will likely never finish the series with episode 6 or even remake this one. Can you imagine how much worse it will be in the snowflake / woke generation. It will be a stripped down version.
Now i'm wondering: why did the captain say "they are planning"? It is simply referring to Deus as a tripartite being (Zohar, Deus and Kadomony) or there is someone who intentionally "hacked" Deus? I think that the correct answer is the first one, because in the second one all sense of the contrast between Deus and the Wave of Existence is lost, but I'm not sure
The actual answer is a mistranslation. See, the person who translated the intro had NO context for the rest of the game. It really should say something Deus is attacking but it was translated as “they”. Also, when you hear the operator say Omega1 and Alpha1, in your head put a period or exclamation point instead of a comma and that’s is the proper syntax translated correctly as well.
@@carfo thanks man! This little thing was wandering in my head for months after finishing the game! It's just sad to realise that we probably will not see again a game like this. Of course Xenogears was not perfect, but all the things surrounding the game and, mainly, the plot made me love this game, at the point that it became my favourite JRPG.
That's analogous to the trinity in Christianity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Aaahhh so it's a series. no wonder the opening makes absolutely no sense until now. Always did have a feeling that meowing was the surviving character though that seemed pretty obvious after playing it so many times.. I've always juggled back and forth between final fantasy VII and this being the best PlayStation game of all time. Honestly the only reason I would say final fantasy VII is better it's because I don't have to do so much freaking reading.. but here I am 25 years later still playing via Duckstation and ROM!
I wonder if they're going to do an HD remaster??
Probably not, unfortunately. A remaster would not fix the glairing holes on disc 2, as well as the 2 missing discs worth of content to make the story complete. Square really messed this one up.
Panspermia
TY. But I couldnt follow any of it. Appears to be a case of story being too complex for its own good.