Coyote Starrk vs Ulquiorra Cifer!
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Ulquiorra fanboys be punching the air right about now.
Ah yes...the battle between the two Hollows with the most depressing backstories...
I do think Starrk is stronger, but since Ulquiorra is far more ruthless and willing to fight while going all out, he could give the Primera a real run for his money.
Super underrated channel, should have way more views and subs
Starrk is worthy of being Numero Uno. He can inflict lethally terrifying damage on his own. His personality however is not for it, be it not wanting to fight at all or finding the concept of killing abhorrent. He just wants friends. Ulquiorra's cold ruthlessness and wide yet pinpoint strikes may give him a chance.
What do you call a wolf which knows it's a wolf?
aware-wolf
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Awesome analysis man l really like your content
Awesome 😎
The strongest, possibly also the only, argument in favor of Ulq which is worth talking about is the end of SAFWY. Cien shoots GRCs and Roca eats them with Cero Doble, then Cien asks whether she would retaliate with a stronger ability now (in relation to GRC), such as Baraggan's curse, Los Lobos or Yammy's max power. Right after a short speech he says verbatim "just kidding" and blows up the canopy to prevent her from using Ulq's or VL's abilities. A bit later he then asks himself whether Roca could create something even stronger than said 2 characters, as she charges [spoiler].
It's not that insanely definitive if you play the semantics game here, but it's not that easy to argue around it. If we solely consider the manga and the databooks then Ulquiorra has basically nothing.
Oh Cien asked the question and then in a separate expression asked if she’s reproducing Barragan or Starrk’s power. But then he went on to say that Yammy’s release form is the strongest power and according to his knowledge (including his awareness of Ulquiorra’s power, as he measured it with his bugs) only himself and Aizen surpasses that giant form. Which would make Ulquiorra less than Yammy who is less than himself. But this wouldn’t feed into Starrk or Ulquiorra as a point of comparison, as he randomly selected Espadas to mention.
@@aizensworld9309 Generally I do agree with everything you said but that "just kidding" can simply refer to too many things to be certain and the fact he brought up VL and Ulq in comparison to Mugetsu rather than e.g. Yammy is a bit off-putting.
The general consensus is, "Oh, you are charging something strong? Maybe Yammy, the strongest? *just kidding* I knew you were charging VL's "powers"!"
But then he goes on how neither VL or Ulq would make much of a difference so... your interpretation is pretty valid too.
I love your Bleach output sir.
I think Ulquiorra's full power from Second Release is pretty close to Starrk.
Afterall Aizen chose him to be Ichigo's opponent to overcome and become stronger in hopes of further getting closer to his own power.
And though Ichigo didn't that much stronger as he wanted. It's still a significant power Amp. So I don't think it is as much of a stomp as some people are thinking. Especially from a raw power equivalency stand point.
Just different skills and abilities they are best suited at.
He could have chosen literally any opponent for Ichigo, including, possibly, Nnoitra. They all scale (massively) above HM Ichigo and every single fight would have ended with Ichigo first losing and then likely VL winning. Characters like Baraggan however might have truly killed Kurosaki. And as the video already said, Ulq never scaled to VL, anyone could have played his role.
You can bring up Ulq's loyalty or his frightening nature or whatever, but his power shouldn't be the reason for this.
@rosurobosu8546 Also the reason ulquiorra was so impressive was because he was in hueco mundo.
Where hollows are at their strongest. Stark, harribel, and barragan were not.
pretty much no... aizen ranked them from 0 to 9 and we know yammy's ira is 0 but his base is 10.. that means they were ranked based on their resureccion but you cant think aizen didnt know about his segunda etapa.. it would be naive
@@BigJohn303 just like shinigami in seireitei or quincy because of reishi density
@@Secik844
Yammy's reiatsu is a disappointment. It has no utilization or professionalism or any refining quality into attack potency. All Yammy has is destruction capacity and being as overbloated and unrefined as possible. He has no skills not even able to use strength correctly.
Starrk's wolfs are basically like Gotenks's ghost
Yes, useless 👍🏻
Hey can you please do Shunsui vs Royd (fake Yuha)?
Here come the Ulquiorra fans
The top 3 espada's fought way stronger enemies than Ulquiorra which fought only Ichigo: a low experienced Shinigami with an imperfect Bankai totally based on raw forces attacks. In the False Karakura Town arc Haribel fought with an enemy with a great counter against her abilities, but she menaged to keep fighting even against two vizards until Aizen betrayed her. Than there was Barragan (whitch was the number 2) that had that insane ability of killing and consuming everything near to him; Sui-Feng's Bankai, with a massive destruction power, doesn't even hurted him with a clean shot and even with a close range hit Barragan survived with low dmgs; he was defeated with a smart trick by the Vizard, something that had involve luck and the right man in the right place. In the end there was Starrk who was about to forces Kyoraku to using his bankai after the Release, but Ukitake helped his friend for ballancing the fight. After that Starrk fought against two vizards (ex captains) and easily defeated them with the kamikaze wolves. Kyoraku was abled to kill Starrk by using a really annoying power and ONLY when Starrk fought him with the swords, not with the guns or the wolves (I know there is a scene in the anime where Lilinette attacked Kyoraku with her wolf form, but this doesn't happens in the manga so it doesn't counts).
Starrk wasn't even trying to be the Number 1. He didn't even care about Aizen's ambitions. He just wanted to "live in peace". With his potential someone like Nnoitra or Grimmjow would be UNSTOPPABLE with the possibility of bombarding everything with a non stop ceros shots or by using creatures ables to detonate theirself once catching the targets. It's something way different from the power of a single powerful shoot like the spear of Ulquiorra or the Sui Feng's Bankai and there is a reason why Kyoraku, when he was under the fire of the Cero Metrallada, said "This is not fair!" an this reason is: yes, he was right, something like that ISN'T FAIR AT ALL. Even Barragan couldn't be able to survive to an enemy able to keep the distance and, at the same time, attacking with no rest and at an incredible speed.
Plus: Starrk is the ONLY ARRANCAR who didn't need the help of Aizen for evolving and he was one of the few characters in Bleach with a Spirit Pressure that strong that weaks beings istantly dies when he was near them. He was even able to "split his soul" and create another living creature with its personality. The only one that is able to this in Bleach is "Mr screw the rules" Zaraki Kenpachi.
I think Starrk would be WAY powerful than Ulquiorra. The point is that he doesn't want to.
Soi Fon,Hachi,Lisa,Hiyori, Toshiro,Love and Rose aren't strong or stronger than Ichigo lol
Why you all keep underestimating Ichigo? He was praised by Unohana even in his weakest state.
@@KevinPaulGargar In that arc Ichigo jumps to Las Noches and he barely manage to keep up with Dordoni by using his Bankai. He needed to use the hollow mask + the Bankai to defeat a privaron espada. He litterally done nothing more impressive than Chad before fighting Grimmjow.
Saying that Ichigo is on the same level of experts capitains of the gotei it's pretty inaccurate. Ulquiorra defeated Ichigo (bankai + mask) only with his first resurrection. Ichigo turns barely unstoppable only in the last arc of Bleach. Before, if it wasn't for White, he wouldn't manage to do nothing with only his immature soul reaper powers.
Anyway Unohana was impressed by the ammount of Ichigo's reiatsu, not from his power. At the time she would be able to kick his ass with no fatigue at all.
Puhahahahhaahahaja, dude forgot that all mighty starkk saying he cant kill rose with his ceros in his ressureccion Lmfao
@@namsonnguyen3708 yea so what? Same %40-50 VL dogwalks every espada and captain at once (expect yamaji)
@@namsonnguyen3708 oh you are from that goon Squad that use offscreen fight to scale 🤣🤣🤣
@@namsonnguyen3708 yea sure we can debate Askin vs Ulquiorra if you want to
@@namsonnguyen3708 I dont remember debating shunsui vs ulquiorra
Can you do toshiro vs Gin?
Charlotte was a horrible character reference as he worships Baraggan and would probably say he’s stronger than Aizen. Grimmjow was in Baraggan’s realm of reiatsu, likely a little higher with comparisons to Luppy who is close to the vizards who clearly had enough power to turn away Starrk’s attacks, but simply being Baraggan level in reiatsu means nothing when you look at his powers.
Starrk is pretty strong but his shown attacks are not that physically powerful especially against characters with higher defensive abilities like arrancars. I’d like to believe that the wolves’ individual powers could be bolstered but Starrk didn’t want to kill.
Regardless, Ulquiorra would’ve already been an ok opponent for Starrk in 1st stage. He’s speed oriented with a good defensive ability, regen and the wings so the low damage ceros wouldn’t work and base alone puts him at a disadvantage in close range due to the wings so he definitely needs ressureccion. When he uses the wolves and colmillo is when Ulquiorra gets pressed. Not sure if the wings are hard enough to withstand his sword but regardless, Ulquiorra would be stuck in a defensive pose and the second he tries to attack he has to deal with either some wolves to the face or a sword, his wings are good defenses against the wolves though. Gran rey and oscuras are potentially good defenses as well as great offensive abilit, but the sheer volume of Starrk’s attacks are too much. Segunda etapa is interesting because of the damage it can do. Ulquiorra likely gets another upgrade in speed but the situation is similar. I don’t think people really understand Ulquiorra’s words when he said that he didn’t exchange healing for power. His first stage is just a lance that he throws, and wings for flight, and mostly defense but can do close range offense. In SE he just has a stronger lance, more overall power but that was never the issue against Starrk. If Ulquiorra can take the attacks without overwhelming his healing abilities, he could potentially create an opening for his own attack which are actually more detrimental if they land. If Starrk’s power was right out in the open, Ulquiorra wins due to his defenses and the fact that he can heal making his Starrk’s attacks pointless and Starrk can’t go close range with the tail, the wings and the high density lance to worry about. On the other hand, if Starrk was holding out and actually has more powerful attacks even in less quantity, he’d relentlessly assault Ulquiorra and keep him on the defensive and he’d ultimately die.
Starrk 1st release>>>>ulquiorra 1st release. This is not a debate. There was a growing consensus that the the top 4 r not far apart in power just because ulquiorra said that espadas 4 and higher r forbidden to release in Las noches. But that just means noitorra in terms of the espadas is the level cap that Las noches can take without risk. That's all.
U can't say starrks ceros r low level because the only times he shot them were at the vizards when he was unmotivated and when he got at shunsui who is many times above avg captain lvl.
It's hard to say exactly how strong starrks ceros r because in tge databook, it's stated that starrk only rlly got serious in his final confrontation with shunsui, but based on the narrative of tge previous ranks, ulquiorras 1st release shouldn't give starrk any trouble, he shouldn't need the wolves at all.
Also, starrk saying his ceros won't work on love and rose is questionable because starrk us very humble, enough to praise toshiros strength, knowing he's a lot stronger than hallibel and in that arc, it's confirmed shunsui is a lot stronger than toshiro.
@@Blackmustache870 I get you but why did Luppy become an espada?
He has the same aspect of death as Grimmjow. That’s why. He wasn’t the 6th strongest nor just below Grimmjow. He went from not being an espada to number 6. Kubo then came out saying that Harribel and Nel also have the same aspect of death. These weren’t coincidences.
From that, I can tell that the espada aren’t exactly just about the numbers. It’s about their aspect of death. I believe there are 10 aspects used and every arrancar is assigned an aspect of death but only the strongest of their respective aspects become an espada and their number reflects only their aspect.
When Szayel helped Nnoitra to take out Harribel, he said their goals were in alignment. What number was Nnoitra at that point? Szayel whose aspect is madness which is the number 8 spot wouldn’t be an espada as long as Nnoitra is 8. Nnoitra was the strongest madness and with Nel’s absence, he turned to despair, creating room for Szayel to become the madness espada. I believe the aspects tend to have some type of indication of strength, where Rage tends to be stronger than the others but in a statistical sense rather than literal. There’s even an indication of Nnoitra being stronger than Harribel as he was antagonistic towards Nel because he hated the fact that a woman was stronger than him yet there seems to be no hostility towards Harribel.
With all this to digest, it means that number doesn’t mean as much as you thought. All we can tell is that based on the damage Grimmjow took from Ulquiorra’s cero, Ulquiorra is quite above his level. Both Ulquiorra and Nnoitra are above Harribel which makes sense considering Tosen who is seen above the espada with his forms (said he surpassed them) didn’t get stronger from the time he battled Kenpachi (no reaction from Komamura nor Shuhei abt a power increase) so he could outclass Grimmjow easily but still have Nnoitra as a problem until his hollow powers kick in. Going off Ichigo’s scrap with him, it’s clear that Ulquiorra is superior to Nnoitra in some sense, so we’d have, Starrk, Nnoitra, Ulquiorra and Kenpachi all at similar levels with different strengths and skills separating them. Starrk and Nel have swordsmanship. Nnoitra and Ulquiorra has strength and durability. Starrk, Ulq and Nel have speed etc.
About the top 4 espadas, it’s likely just an ability type rule rather than power as Aaroniero’s hypothetical gran rey isn’t more dangerous than Grimmjow’s mele attacks but it’d still be too destructive to be used inside Las Noches.
His ceros are low damage. Normal ceros in general are low damage. It’s not a finishing move against someone worth fighting. Oscuras and grand rey are attacks where getting hit once is enough to be fatal, but Starrk’s ceros aren’t a 1 and done, his whole thing is bombarding people but if they have some type of shield like Ulquiorra’s wings, it’s not that deadly. And he said his ceros won’t work after Love blocked a few with his massive shikai. He couldn’t pull that off with a sword in his hand but his large shikai becomes a shield because as long as it’s between him and Starrk, the ceros won’t do anything. The wolves are different because it’s multidirectional and he can’t defend against an explosion from every direction… Ulquiorra can to a degree and the blasts he’s shown doesn’t seem to be able to blow off those captains’ limbs so again it’s lower end damage in numbers to wear down opponents rather than Grimmjow type massive claws to kill in 1 hit. Ulquiorra might very well be similar to Starrk in many regards and his first stage has crazy speed and defenses that can handle Starrk’s attack type. Second stage is blatantly better than ressureccion. A captain and their lieutenant have notable differences in power but a lieutenant’s bankai could potentially level the playing field as bankais can be pretty damn hard to combat, same as ressureccions. SE has an AOE power that involves an entire massive battlefield in single blasts that can be used continuously. It takes the previously enhanced speed and enhances it even more. Ulquiorra is essentially just like Tosen but Ulq might actually be deadlier with his range and speed. Starrk ain’t winning that fight with what he’s shown. I’d like to believe he can increase the power of the wolves by stacking them together creating something far more detrimental but it might just be a pipe dream right now.
Baraggan still neggs both though. Lanza could probably overwhelm respira due to the sheer force so Ulq is still on the board but I don’t see any captain or other espada with something that’s getting past respira. The force of Kenpachi’s swings, potentially and Yama is the goat but almost anyone else just dies when up against him. Even in base he’d wreck Shunsui.
@kxngice7858 well, for the aspects of death, it becomes difficult, because it's either a clear retcon, or some aspects of death r ALWAYS stronger than others. Do u think it's coincidencidental that outside of the top 3, each espada fought stronger and stronger opponents based on how high their rank is? Personally, I don't like kubos new view on his ranks because tge espadas were much more interesting when barragon explained that each individual espada has their own unique aspect of death and that aspects t of death was pretty much their whole being and their abilities. Ulquiorra wasn't just nihilistic because he acted that way. He literally couldn't feel anything. Starrk, even after being around the other espadas and lillynette, only felt solitude up to his death and his abilities of tge wolf pack reflect it. Barragon being the oldest espada, ironically wasn't immune to aging himself and his abilities revolved around it despite how much he talked about being invincible because of his abilities. So before, the aspects of death were unique to the individual espada, but now it became a thing where there r only 10 aspects of death and aizen FOR SOME REASON chose the strongest of each aspect of death rather than the actual 10 strongest arrancar that could really help him. Also, in tybw, grimmjow remarks that since aizen isn't there anymore, the numbers don't mean shit to nel. This means that to some extent, their ranks DO represent their power. So as much as I think it's stupid how aizen didn't choose the actual 10 strongest arrancar and kubo retconned his aspects of death, we can still conclude that some aspects of death r always stronger than others(which puts into question how yammy can change his rank like that because yammy clearly showed he was always prone to anger, even his base form)
For hallibel and noitorra, it could also mean that hallibel was at a lvl that noitorra didn't deem possible at reaching. He was quite passively aggressive to hallibel during the espada meeting tho, indirectly calling her weak for thinking ichigo and his friends could be trouble, so I'd say he either felt the same about hallibel as he did with nel, or we didn't get enough screentime of both together. I don't think noitorra felt despair after losing nel, otherwise his reaction to nel coming back would be a lot more severe.
Starrk only fired his ceros at rose and love when he was depressed, u can't call that a feat. But ulquiorras defenses aren't impenetrable. He just has them. If we go by consistency in ranks before, starrk should be able to overwhelm ulquiorras defenses even with just ceros.
When did kaname fear noitorra until his hollow powers? Also its implied grimmjow was off guard when kaname attacked due to him being confident kaname would listen to aizen. But let's say all that u said about kaname fearing noitorra is true. How does that extend to hallibel? Hallibel lost to plot. That's a fact. She literally blitzed tishiro while she was in base, was capable of one shotting toshiro in release, but after the ice clone, she had trouble catching toshiro at all. That's plot armor. So zarakis fight with noitorra doesn't extend to hallibel.
Aarieneros proficiency in cero most likely wouldn't be enough to hit opponent with it, or aizen feared the potential of gran Rey ceros. The fact is gran Rey ceros r still banned, so either aarienero just isn't proficient enough to hit anyone with it or his just relatively weak in comparison to the others.
For barragon, there's a scan saying that if ur strong enough, u can slash straight through respira and EVEN starrks swords. The wording here implies that starrks swords r stronger than barragons respira and it's not even starrks strongest technique. And this goes back to point before about the rankings. Starrk is a lot stronger than barragon because of this.
And regarding the top 4 releases, why would aizen worry about their abilities when it's shown that even grimmjow can destroy Las noches if he just attacked mindlessly. Gran Rey ceros r part of abilities so there needs to be a distinction between the two terms, implying it's just the action of going into their release.
@@Blackmustache870 *"Do u think it's coincidental that outside of the top 3, each espada fought stronger and stronger opponents based on how high their rank is?"*
I believe this is chalked up to the plot. The espadas were to lose all their battles. Aaronierro could be a more difficult combatant than Szayel though.
*"and aizen FOR SOME REASON chose the strongest of each aspect of death rather than the actual 10 strongest arrancar that could really help him."*
It may be less about power because he doesn't need very powerful individuals per se. It might be related to a plan post-Soul King overthrow, or even just a responsibility alignment where he needs individuals who are each unique to carry out certain tasks, rather than a bunch of strong like-minded individuals who are all specified to a particular paradigm. It may be for versatility.
*"Also, in tybw, Grimmjow remarks that since Aizen isn't there anymore, the numbers don't mean shit to Nel. This means that to some extent, their ranks DO represent their power."*
I believe the arrancars are ignorant of the reason behind the rankings. We have Dordoni thinking he could become an espada again if he defeats Ichigo. I believe that only Szayel and Baraggan showed that they understood Aizen to an extent. Baraggan is the first and only to mention the aspects as significant and Szayel's words to Nnoitra are a clear giveaway.
*I don't think Noitorra felt despair after losing Nel, otherwise his reaction to Nel coming back would be a lot more severe.*
Tesla remarked that Nel was a boulder for Nnoitra and he had to crush her to move on, her arrival was much more significant than the way he reacted. Also in the flashback, he begged for a warrior's death when Nel defeated him. No way someone like that wouldn't be antagonistic to someone they know they can't defeat. If he can't defeat them he'd still fight anyway, a true squad 11 type character.
*"Starrk only fired his ceros at rose and love when he was depressed, u can't call that a feat."*
They were fighting with both their swords sealed before that point. During that time before Baraggan's defeat, he didn't have any hindrances and still couldn't put down the sealed sword captains with his ceros. They were likely testing his ability and decided to strike when they realized that he could change after Baraggan's death.
*"When did kaname fear noitorra until his hollow powers?"*
Never said that. I'm saying that based on his performance with Zaraki, someone like Nnoitra could be a hard stop for just his shikai's abilities. He'd need hollowfication at least to start running circles around Nnoitra and he wouldn't have the physicality to cut him until the hollowfication
*"Also its implied grimmjow was off guard when kaname attacked due to him being confident kaname would listen to aizen."*
Kaname was pissed at Grimmjow's actions and knowing Grimmjow's character, he wouldn't simply allow punishment to take place without a fight. Tosen was fully prepared to execute Grimmjow because of his actions. He was not counting on Aizen to stop him as he wanted him dead. He's not crazy enough to overestimate his own abilities like that, and I'm honestly guessing that it wouldn't be much of a fight as Grimmjow was looking right at Tosen as he slowly drew his sword but he couldn't react fast enough. Grimmjow stood no chance. Since Kaname wasn't given the go-ahead to kill Grimmjow, he decided to destroy his arm to forcefully remove him from the rank of espada.
*"Hallibel lost to plot. That's a fact. She literally blitzed tishiro while she was in base, was capable of one shotting toshiro in release, but after the ice clone, she had trouble catching toshiro at all."*
Harribel increased her attack power with cero-enhanced strikes. They were too much for Toshiro to keep defending against so he used bankai to have an extra defensive layer against it. With Toshiro's experience against the arrancars, he kept underestimating how high their attack type, power and speed would improve so he used a decoy to determine what her attacks would be like so he wouldn't be surprised again. That's all. He could handle Harribel's attacks but not knowing how she'll attack could be fatal so he was just prepared. He wouldn't have fallen to Luppy so easily had he known what to expect.
*"So zarakis fight with noitorra doesn't extend to hallibel."*
The arrancar numbers are an indication of when they were recruited and although this isn't concrete, Nel was likely an espada while Harribel was a numeros. Nel was around Number 40 and Harribel was around 53 assuming that they joined at the same time as their fracciones. Noitra would just be there less than 5 arrancars earlier than Harribel. Wonderweisse is the 77th and likely the very last to be added to the arrancars so there are 77 arrancars added over a 110 year period. This indicates that there's a high possibility that Harribel's inception overlapped with a period of Nel's reign as an espada. This kinda comes full circle with Nnoitra not caring about Harribel while Nel is on Noitra's level.
*"Aarieneros proficiency in cero most likely wouldn't be enough to hit opponent with it"*
It has nothing to do with proficiency. Gran Rey is banned period because of it's destructive ability. What I'm saying is that it's not about raw power why 4 and above can't release because Ichigo swatted Grimmjow's gran rey but was getting slapped around by his ressureccion that wasn't banned. This means that it's about attack type and destruction and has nothing to do with AP.
*"For barragon, there's a scan saying that if ur strong enough, u can slash straight through respira and EVEN starrks swords. The wording here implies that starrks swords r stronger than barragons respira and it's not even starrks strongest technique."*
This was from a novel and the same novelist retconned it. They had some off interpretations about reiatsu thinking that the now considered "small" differences were large enough to make a massive change. Whether you want to consider SAFWY canon or not, Kubo didn't intend for there to be a story between FKT and TLA. Kenpachi wasn't meant to gain like 10x his reiatsu level and was supposed to be only as strong as he was when he fought Yammy and Nnoitra, and the differences in reiatsu in SAFWY suggests that the 8th Kenpachi should have higher reiatsu than Aizen because there were way too many power buffs causing crazy effects to not easily step well outside the range of a captain. Unohana didn't have blatantly higher spiritual pressure than Kenpachi, she had near unrivalled skills and he needed a power difference in his favor to keep up with her superior skills. Soya was just oneshotting him casually while holding back less each time. Some Aizen type shit. Needless to say, that novel was horribly overplaying power differences among captains and CFYOW had many characters spread across the board with varying spiritual pressure level but nothing was this extreme, and we have a monster who is clearly far above normal captain reiatsu and Yammy's level having pre arrancar Baraggan being an equal due to abilities. People mark it up saying Baraggan was weaker in the espada but he literally said Aizen gave him greater strength and power ages like wine with hollows and soulreapers so he clearly was at his prime in FKT arc.
*"Gran Rey ceros r part of abilities so there needs to be a distinction between the two terms, implying it's just the action of going into their release."*
I thought so too but what detrimental effect did the others have upon transforming? Starrk has a bunch of shit that if used in a confined space will wreck everything. Ulq's cero tore off half the dome of LN. Baraggan is self-explanatory and there's no limit to the water volume Harribel can control so enough will be very destructive.
@@Blackmustache870 I reread the Toshiro vs Harribel fight and noticed something. Once Harribel started to use Aura Azul, Toshiro couldn’t physically defend against it and his bankai doesn’t give him greater physical power so he couldn’t physically handle any of Harribel’s attacks after that point. To defend himself, he froze her attacks and created a thick ice barrier to stop the force of everything and he didn’t cross swords with her after ressureccion because her strength would be too high. She also kept her distance because getting within his range is dangerous but strength wise, she could trash him if he was forced into melee. Toshiro could stay in the fight because of using his own strengths instead of trying to beat her where he knows he’s weak. The anime had Toshiro able to swat attacks which were clearly too powerful for him. Kubo wanted an anime reboot because the anime wasn’t very true to the source material
Facts! People forget Ulquiorra was one of the younger ones and he stated himself he hadn't fully mastered that lance thing... So how would he beat the most skilled of the espada who outclass him in speed, power, skills and abilities?
No Espada outclasses Ulquiorra in power speed, skills
Barragan vs Starrk pls
star is not a character that deserves to be the 1st espada. Its only quality is throwing weak shots. He even weakly wore down Love and the other two captains using cero. The cero Oscuras that Ulquiorra used in his first release made Ichigo turn off his masked form's consciousness. You still equate a ridiculously loser character with the 4th espada. You cannot kill captain level characters just by using hollow cero, either your cero will be very strong or you will have a power as fast and hard as Ulquiorra. Anyone who watched this bleach neutral might say that even the first version of Ulquiorra did a much better job than Starkin's resurrection. Stark doesn't deserve a disgraceful number one espada larin.
Maybe use ur brain to tell that ulquiorra used cero oscuras while starrk used a NORMAL cero?? That's not an equal comparison.
He was nerfed vs love and rose and that's stated multiple times.
When has a cero in bleach ever killed someone when it wasn't point blank?
Shunsui can take multiple holes thru his body in the fight against lille barro. Yet, a cero metralletta made shunsui fear he wasn't going to survive without bankai, but ALSO was willing to endanger his allies in the process. Imagine the ap cero metralletta actually had for shunsui to resort to that.
At best the Segunda Etapa puts Ulquiorra ABOVE BASE NELL OR TIA.
The relationship of Starrk and Lilynette reminds me of the movie Castaway with Tom Hanks. Hanks character was marooned, and his sense of isolation resulted in a mental break to the point that he projected personality traits to a volleyball. He even gave it a name. Starrk was so lonely that he split himself into two distinct individuals. Even when he goes into resurrection, Lilynette is still there. When she's killed, Starrk goes into a downward spiral until Shunsui finishes him off. He's my favorite Espada. And I concur that he's easily over Ulquiorra. Didn't know he had a data book statement. Ace vid as always.
Nice breakdown!
What is the fastest bleach characters have gotten bankai?
its no debate for me.. aizen knew about them very well so how could he not know about segunda etapa?? (ulquiorra fans says that aizen didnt know xD) but at the same time aizen knew about yammy's power and because of that he got 10 in base but 0 resurected and we know thanks to yammy that they were numbered from 0 to 9 what means aizen did that based on their resurected forms
@@youtubecensorshipisretarded nope.. segunda etapa is no different from yammy's rage because he change too.. they were ranked from 0 to 9 so they were ranked based on resurected forms so aizen knew
bruh.. hollows dont train.. arrancars too because hollows only grows when eating other hollows and arrancars cant grow stronger anymore
Even No.2 Barrangan is stronger than Ulquiorra. Starrk is no.1 for a reason.
SAFWY kinda confirms that Barragan Starrk and Yammy scale above Ulq’s Lanza, and by Ulq’s own admission he believes Halibel is stronger than him. And given the fact that it’s been proven through the un universe scaling that a lower rank Espada’s Res is relative to or weaker than the Base form of the Espada ranked higher (especially showcased between Grimmjow, Nnoitra and Ulquiorra), at best Segunda Etapa would put Ulq around Res Halibel level, give or take. Which lines up with only Barragan, Starrk and Yammy being able to clash with Cien’s Gran Rey Cero and not people in R2 Ulq and ares Halibel’s level
How did you spell Ulquiorra name wrong? Hahaha
Wait did I? 😂
@@aizensworld9309 Yeah mans it's Cifer
@@Morickder thanks I didn’t even think about it much 😂
Starrk is trash for the first espada
@Josh Nelson I was just expecting a lot more from the first espada since vasto lorde are supposed to be super strong, even more so then captains so I feel like Stark should have been way stronger since the hogyoku also enhanced his power as well. The power leveling in bleach is messy.
@Josh Nelson I liked yammy better lol
@Josh Nelson starrks design was also very weak. I didn't like it. He should have been like a werewolf with guns.
@Josh Nelson Nnoitra is my favorite espada I love his attitude I feel like starrks should have been more like that, grimmjow,yammy and Ulquiorra are cool, the 2nd espada has the best design and Ulquiorra has the second best design in my opinion.
Starrk fought 4 captain and was killed by the future head captain, Ulquiorra only had to fifht ichigo at that point Ichigo wasn't even stronger than the top captains
Ichigo at that time is a High Captain lvl shinigami with his hollow mask lol stop nerfing Ichigo
Theres alot of things that can be used to scall ulquiorra to the strogest espada.
1 ulquiorra As way more spiritual pressure then most captains at that time.Uruy saying that Segeda Etapa SP fealt alien like something he did not say about Mayuris sp. That means that ulquiorras Sp was Greater or on par with many captions in tybw. do to the fact that mayuri Said that he did not get much of a sp boost in tybw.
2 The hell verse fight which kubo over saw.
3 when unohana Told ichigo that he is much stronger than she thought compared to a caption. that ichigo In whatever form you put it in context to that commet should aslo be aply to ulquiorra. someone who matched vasto lord ichigo
1. what? how
@@Secik844 The reason is cause uryu Said that ulquiorra spiritual pressure In 2nd Release Fealt Alien Like. like something like something he has never seen or felt before. This already puts 2nd release Ulq above a TYBW mayuri do to Uryu not saying something like that About Mayuri”s SP in their fight. And the fact the mayuri said that he does not train much physically which means he did not have much of an SP boost in tybw. This can be used to apply to other captains.
In my opinion the only Captian as of now in the story that have more SP then 2nd release ULQ. are Kenpachi Shunsui. And most likely being on par with byakuya and toshiro.
And i am keeping it short as there is more i can bring up
Also non of the other Esapa had a SP feat like this.
@@Middistance but uryu never met anyone above ulquiorra except yammy... ulquiorra's reiatsu was still much lower than starrk since only his reiatsu was so powerful that he was forced to split his soul
@@Secik844 dident he do that cause he was lonely as well. And stark being a split soul already seems like a down side if he does not relase Right away.
@@Middistance right he was lonely but he was lonely because his reiatsu was killing hollows so basically he was forced to split his soul
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I tend to view Segunda Etapa as jumping him past Halibel while still being below Barragan, Stark, and Res Yammy. Imo this satisfies Ulquiorra's claim to Ichigo that there were three espada above him
Ulquiorra is stronger than Stark...even in just first resurrection, the feats and powerscaling shows Ulquiorra is actually the strongest
Stark failed to show any impressive feats
Statements and lore show otherwise. Lore>feats. The feats ulquiorra showed r just flashy drawings. In narrative, shunsui was many times stronger than the ichigo that ulquiorra fought and in lore, 1>>>>4. Starrk dogwalks 1st release ulquiorra.
Harribel >
Base ulquiorra is above Base harribel
Starrk slams