Lean and athletic. Its the primal archetype for resource gathering, that's why women are inherently attracted to it. Now that women can get resources themselves, they will pursue the primal archetype. It all comes down to resources and status.
This is EVERYTHING! HOLY SPIRIT, the struggle is real! Why are the comments so addictive though, 🤔? I mean, it's all cancerous nonsense, 😮😫🤒, but I feel COMPELLED to know what others have said about the same thing I just watched, 😵! WHY!!!??? Maybe...I'm just insecure...and...I need someone else to AGREE with my ideas, and to VALIDATE my opinion. Maybe...I just feel empty and clueless...so...I need other people to lean on so I don't feel like I'm falling on my face EVERYSINGLE time I take one step, 😤😩... Maybe...my codependent behavior...draws me to cancerous people...*like a moth to a flame* 🐙🦋🔥
The Guardian is abhorrent. And yes you're right dude, the people who write this shit are the same people who walk on the treadmill for an hour and then go get a take out food. Pathetic
So true. Like, who even eats food anymore? It's 2017. Also: only an hour? Jesus christ, what the fuck are these people doing with their lives? Honestly, you have to ask yourself: if you don't hit the gym at LEAST 5 hours a day, what are you doing with your life? These people are complete fucking idiots - instead of "informing" the world with their super offensive fake information, like giving a hypothetical example, they could be making the world a better place by making their own bodies look slightly better (to some people) by spending a shittom of time at the gym! emirite guize?
Michael Scott "if you dont spend 5 hours daily at the gym, what are you doing with your life?" this is the most pathetic question i have ever seen. Note to you, not everyone has spare 5 hours daily just for a fucking gym because your head is fulfilled with that you dont look like that muscular hollywood star or whoever else
-I don't feel shit. When it comes to attracting females though it's not so much how you look, but how masculine, confident and aggressive you are. Theses are all signs of testosterone, the male hormone. With these traits women can't help but be attracted to you. Underneath the surface of our humanness, we are still primal animals whose main goal is reproduction.
VocalEdgeTV But you can't always base healthy on how someone looks. Yes, you can look at someone who's morbidly obese and tell they're not going to be the healthiest, but there's plenty of skinny people out there who are just as unhealthy. So it's stupid to assume health just by looks alone.
you dont have to be stacked on muscle yet being slim and defined suggest health while being super skinny and pale makes you look sick thus unattractive
That's why we have to have standards. all people are not equal, not in looks not in brains... do you want F student fixing your roof or installing your triple bypass pacemaker? -but still #BringBackDadBod
Its annoying how the media always says these bodies are 'unattainable'. Sure, the pressure is very bad on the mind, but these bodies are far from unattainable. They are just plain old healthy looking bodies (minus the steroids for men).
cooteyman 202 *"It's unattainable because it isn't served on a silver platter and I can't be arsed to do the work"* Don't you hear yourself? I'm sorry but that's the most shamelessly pathetic excuse for the supposed 'unattainability' of a healthy body I've ever seen. It plays into the unfortunate stereotype of the lazy, hopelessly entitled millennial who expects their perfect life to fall into place without effort. You people should stop spreading this defeatist bollocks as it may discourage people from making the decision to improve.
I believe it is attainable however I think the video was suppose to refer that if you’re not obese nor underweight and just considerably healthy then you shouldn’t have to lift weights or build muscles just to be seen as “sexy” or “hot”. You should just be you. Now if a person is obese then yeah they should work hard but their goal should be to be healthy and not “attractive”.
it is unattainable for some because of how the human body is made. Bone structure, muscle insertions, muscle bellies etc are all genetics. You cant grow 5 inches by working out now can you? The same goes for your broad shoulders or narrow waist. You cant train those
Being healthy: important Being most attractive: unimportant Not any body is okay, we should discourage unhealthy lifestyles in favor of living healthy.
ArcticAnDroid uh...considering life literally only exists to replicate...and we are sexually dimorphic...attractiveness to the opposite sex is very important
Aesthetics cannot be neglected. Aesthetic is Rhetoric both in relationships and business. Your health is a separate thing despite the overlap, and both are critical. Attractiveness is not important if you're satisfied with a difficult time finding a partner, a good job, and social status. If you work twice as hard maybe you will get the same of one or two of those things.
Squiddi no it clearly wont always be that way considering it was once undesirable. And no, hard work doesnt _deserve_ women; hard work is just attractive.
Squiddi No naturally people are attracted to those best fit for survival. In modern day, our psycchology likely adapts to what society deems attractive. If it were simply a basic natural instinct to be attracted to ripped men, fat men would never have been attractive.
It's weird, but when I was a kid, “shredded” and “cut” specifically meant having very low body fat.The idea was that you could easily see muscle fibers, and muscle separation. Now, shredded and cut mean having both low body fat AND a very large, muscular build. Shredded and cut were originally used in bodybuilding to describe the ideal state for actual bodybuilding competitions, but it was not considered ideal between contests, as it was too difficult to maintain super-low body fat at the same time you were trying to build muscle. Now it seems we have to be genetically gifted, shredded, hyper muscular,...essentially perfect, at all times. Yes, woman have had to deal with much of that all along, but the world is worse off for men joining the ranks of the objectified, and everyone should be set free to just be healthy, not “perfect”.
Something can be attainable for one person but not for another. For example, I'm tall and skinny. I'm strong but most of my muscle mass isn't particularly physically impressive. I can improve on that, and I am, but I'm not gonna try for a Chris Pratt body because I simply don't have the frame for it. And that's cool. I have other interests and I'm good-looking enough for the people I have the most fun with.
It is unattainable if you do not have the time for it. If you work from 9 to 5, you don't have time to waste 3 hours in the gym. The job of those men in the media IS to work out and be hot. That's the difference.
Andy Monserud, I too am tall and skinny. From age 16 to my early 20's I was 6'2 and weighed 145-150. Despite working out regularly I never gained much muscle. For the last 6 months I've made a change to my diet. I now force myself to eat 3000 calories a day. Since then I've gained significant muscle mass while keeping low fat. Sure I don't have the skeletal structure to look like Arnie but it still a major improvement.
Mario Sergio, you only don't have time for it if you choose to not prioritize it. I work 9 to 5, 5 day a week job and I manage to fit in my schedule perfectly fine. It doesn't even have to be 3 hours, a 45 min daily workout can make a world of difference.
Honestly nothing beats the Greek statue body physiques. Not too skinny nor fat. Just perfect insanely hard to achieve naturally but amazing and just so appealing. Thats really something to strive for.
If your stupid your bank account won't last need to have a brain. More than one lottery winner went bankrupt so did more than one athlete, actor and singer.
it's true that from time to time a trend appears that puts apollonian beauty in halt, but this beauty standard is so engraved in our colective consciousness that it never goes completely away, and always comes back. Greek and Roman cultures are still the most influential in western cultures, from the way we behave, to the way we eat, to the way we look.
It was true until Americans started to dominate the culture. However Americans could never become standard in European high culture, just in the popular mass (proletarian peasant) culture.
iAMGabGab when I don’t shave people say I’m gay, but that’s mainly because I’m not a man. Almost all models are hairless (even males). I think it has become trend or something.
Panala Since when can you be gay as a woman ? xD. Yes i really think it looks way better and is smoother when its shaved, but I never saw a man with shaved legs/arms..
Women -Thin body shape - Pretty face -Long eyelashes -Hourglass bodyshape -Curves with an attractive thin body -Not too much make up but should be still attractive
The difference between men and women from what I see in this comment section, is that men don't moan about their desired body types, instead they get it if they wish to get it, and understand that a woman is more attracted to a man who has more muscle. However women, in general, always moan about how the media shows "unattainable body types" and that it's not fair when realistically, a woman is in the exact same position as a man in this scenario, they are just less likely to have the motivation to get up and do something about their unhappiness with their body and want men to accept them for who they are, but probably won't go vice versa.
There's something that you're either forgetting or overlooking. Women are built to have more fat on their bodies as they are the ones who grow another human being inside them. Because this fat is more necessary on the female form, it is more difficult for the average woman to slim down as easily as the average man. Especially considering the roles evolution originally placed the two genders in. Men were typically fighters, while women were providers. Also, keep in mind that weight doesn't always dictate your level of health. Female athletes don't tend to weigh an ideal 120 lbs. And women who are taller weigh more at a healthy weight for them than shorter women at a healthy weight. Honestly I think people obsess too much over numbers on scales. It all really depends.
No because an ideal male body these days is realistic. Everyone can achieve it. I know it's hard but definitely not impossible. A woman's body on the other hand is supposed to be slim/athletic but with curves which is just unrealistic considering the fact, that boobs and butts are basically just fat.
1:19 of course not that's called overtraining, your muscles grow when they're recovering i.e during sleep not when you constantly assault them every day. Only people on PED's can annihilate their muscles in that kind of way
It's only overtraining if you do full-body workouts every single day. if you do a split routine, such as push-pull-legs, you can work out every day. Besides, even if you do go full-body, you can still split your routine between strength days and cardio days.
Ok, but you still need to give the body time to use the material from the food to repair the muscles. If you are barraging your muscles with exercise and not giving adequate rest then they will never repair and recover. Give a person all the bricks in the world, if you don't give them any time to build a house then the house will never be built.
Muscle recovery occurs during sleep. Besides, when you do a split, you're not using the same muscles every day. For instance, your arms are resting on the days you work out your legs, and vice versa. Likewise, push-pull-legs gives you two days of rest for all of your muscle groups.
Parma zyxwvu The difference between those 20 years is the act of radiation on human bodies. So no I don't think Spartans had 200x testosterone, all those bodies you see on the video are fake
I think the best one is the one we have today: dad bods. For me, dad bods is something like "I used to hit the gym 10 years ago but now I'm just growing fat and I don't care". it's beautiful, 'cause it says "okay, I know everybody is into this lifting weigh thing, but I'm done with it 'cause I'm wiser now" kinda of aspect to it. I don't know, it feels... mature and happier.
Perhaps men should focus on mental and emotional strengthening instead of body strengthening right now.. though, combining the two makes you a lot better off. Stop trying to emasculate males. Stay classy, gentlemen.
It’s about first impression. A good looking guy (including having a nice body) will most likely have more opportunity to attract girls. That’s just nature.
Yes, men feel a great deal of pressure to have a great physique, not only to impress the opposite sex or someone, but also to somewhat keep up or "outdo their counterparts. Many women and men body shame men along with height shaming which primarily come from women.
Did you use the guardian as a source? Anyway I think most of these body types (like fat) are usually liked as they show that they are well fed Not because they are physically attractive
Lol what, I mean unless the person has very clear anorexia I don't think a women would be considered with how "well fed" a man is in a 1st world country.
Attraction is personal preference. Yes it is affected by many factors of our genetic makeup, but it all comes down to what the person prefers. Even more so considering body types don't really change anything in our current society.
How are they unattainable. They are very attainable. Go to the gym and work out more, cut out sugar. Done your on your way. The ideal male body isnt that of a body builder, its bulky but athletic. Its not unattainable by any means
The amount of times I’ve heard girls talk about guys and how they have “dad bods” is incredible. I don’t think I’ve ever heard one of my guy friends openly make fun of a woman’s image
whatever...ive been lifting for the last two years and now I finally get attention from girls...i didn't when I was fat and happy... I've got the same personality as back then so the only reason I get more attention now is because of my new looks😑
Zoey Richardson I don't think you understand what I said. I also don't think you have good vision because my profile picture is me, yet you said I don't take care of myself...
Took it from the ladies and finally got up the courage to ask someone out. Apparently I am too short (5'5) and not muscular enough. Thanks for the good advice.
Everyone can get em with a proper diet. Not quite as hard as some think. Harder when you're metabolism is slower though, but still completely possible.
Thank you for that ending comment, even though obecity is a rising issue now a days, guys and gals alike have self image issues that are usually propogated by UA-cam videos and most media. This was a refreshing perspective!
13.1.18.11 IsMyName Oooookay, well then. Why can't you three actually listen to each other properly? There's nothing wrong with wanting to have a healthy mind AND a healthy body.
Don't try to normalize things that aren't normal You can do calculation which shows you your ideal weight and everyone should aim for that weight But... if you wanna be fat or thin af then so be it, but that is not normal Don't promote others to be unhealthy, its not that hard to get yourself in shape trust me Its 2018, people should be smarter
AMRUTA K "Be bigger than everybody else, then nobbody will mess with you" is so dumb, ppl gonna mess with u anyway, its just that u will be strong enough to defend urself.
AMRUTA K Well you could be Bruce Lee, but if a guy that outweighs him by a good 70 kilos grabbed him, he could snap him in half. Just speaking realistically, take a look at some of the World's Strongest Man competitors they're fucking huge and could crush a normal person
AMRUTA K Im doing MMA , there are lot of guys who has more skills but when we spar the bigger guys always win If someone outweights you by 30-40 kg or even more they will win 90% of the time , if they know basic fighting stance And also if Big guy cant fight he is still intimidating for people without training
My boyfriend has a beautiful body. He is on the shorter side, white pale skin and he’s covered in gorgeous freckles and beauty marks. He’s got a muscular back and arms and a tiny lil tummy chub and he is perfect to me. I wouldn’t change a thing.
@@davidospina7870 k pop was around before 2020🤦♂️ I think more people are all over tiktok boys more in 2020, they're practically the beauty standard now:/
men having issues and insecurities and general problems don't negate the problems of women and vice versa. problems are problems and they're all bad so stop with all these pissing contests of "i have it worse than you"
We would have a lot more violence and "pissing contests" as our friend above mentioned if they were all alphas. It wouldn't take much for women to get sick of that.
your definition of beta is something else probably. Like being vulnerable, being emotional all those good things. According to me, a beta human is a human who cant do shit when someone pokes him/her and just keeps hiding/crying. May sound a bit extreme and lacking empathy but it is what it is. Crying like a beta is worse than just crying.
In my opinion most females go for the fit or not to muscular guy. We have to remember we are not going be in our 20s for ever so is best to maintain a fit healthy body to our old age.
I think healthy should be a healthy Body. If you are fit and healthy I think that is the best to be and you can decide what that looks like for you. Just take care of your body. Remember God has given us one body let's use it wisely.
Whether 200 pounds is a lot depends. For a 7 foot tall man, 200 pounds isn't a lot. For a 5'6 man, 200 pounds is a lot. For 6'3-6'5 200 pounds is not that much like you said, but it's not skinny.
I don't think the bodybuilder look of the 80s carried over so much beyond then. In the 90s and 2000s I would think a fit model or jock look was more in. Buff seems to have come back in the past decade or so, but I'm thinking superhero bod moreso than the roided out Rock look.
"Yankee Doodle" was originally a British song taunting American rebels. "Yankee Doodle went to town // Riding on a pony // Stuck a feather in his cap // And called it macaroni" -- oh, those basic Americans, thinking a simple feather makes them macaroni! 🤣
when your a very young guy its ok to be thin but once we start approaching mid 20's and above, it is now time to get buff if we still want to look good. the slim cute look just ain't gonna work anymore and getting fat is NEVER acceptable.
It was interesting until the end then they pushed some all goody bull crap. No matter WHAT the body preference or ideal image is, you should always aspire to be fit; if for no aesthetic purpose, then simply to be healthy. This whole idea of "Body Shaming" is bull, if you're considerably overweight, yes it may be hard to hear, but you need to cut those pounds, not rock those heart problems. If you're incredibly skinny, you need to start being more active and athletic, don't succumb to health issues because people say it's okay and that we shouldn't shame you. PS 90s body expectations weren't unattainable if they were set by people in movies id est the rock who attained them.
Joey Likes Food Body shaming is not "bull". It's short-sighted, and also distracting from something that plagues even worse: Mental health. Obsessing over body images poisons the brain.
no, being fat and unhealthy will never be attractive.. biological and evolutionary factors has made us hardwired to never find that shit attractive. Youth, fertility, being slender, feminine women will always be attractive for guys and strong, tall, masculine, dominant men will always be attractive for women.. That will never change, it never has throughout the history of mankind and never will
MrD some women don't want that kind of look as fears they will have to compete to keep their partner. Not the same for men but It does depend on the person.
I believe body image issues stem from poor reception of one's own attempt at comparing oneself with an ideal. A better way to recieve it is to set goals to acheive it until you come to realize not everything you idolize is realistic.
I’ve never worked out in my life, (like doing ab workouts and going to the gym), but my dad always took me working ever since I was young and my mom always fed me healthy food. Also I rarely eat any chips or go to fast food to save money on useless stuff. And I’ve never noticed it until few years back I was lean ass fuck and had a 6 pack, I still do but damn it took years without even noticing.
In ancient Greece yes the ideal body was to be muscular BUT men who were fat and had big bellys meant they were rich because they had lots of food so they were equally respected as athletes!!
Nice body n immuture mindset with a low iq / self inflicted mental retardation are not attractive .The more guys care about thier body and looks, past a point ,the more common sense and intelligence goes out the window and declines
@@DC3Refom being fit is actually good for your hormonal balance and in turn boosts your neurological activity Stop using stereotypes like "he's fit so he must be stupid" to shame people just because you're obviously unfit and apparently stupid as well
I’m going to go ahead and confidently assert that being evenly proportioned, well defined, and muscular has always been attractive. Just from a purely evolutionary standpoint, that never has and never will go out of style. Any woman who’s says they’d pick a dad bod over someone in shape is either kidding, not looking at the two side by side, or lacks confident in their own appearance.
It depends on the dad bod because some dad bods do look good. But I myself do prefer someone that's fit too because it shows they take care of themselves and aside from that, I'm into fitness as well.
Patrick bateman's body or the classic western body with a strong back, chest and arms, and exercised abs but without a six pack and strong exercised legs like the ones of a boxer like floyd mayweather
Which style do you see becoming popular again for "the look" for men?
plus sized men, that is what
no they havent? wtf ? haha 20 years ago nobody, i said nobody gave a fuck
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Lean and athletic. Its the primal archetype for resource gathering, that's why women are inherently attracted to it. Now that women can get resources themselves, they will pursue the primal archetype. It all comes down to resources and status.
fat as a king
Ok but my mom once said i was handsome..
Mr.Klean same. She also told me santa was real. we've been lied to.
Life is a lie
Yeah. His mom said I was handsome too
Gregory 😂
@@gregory7958 😂
The perfect Male body is Danny Devito.
The perfect -insert anything- is Danny Devito.
Julia C - 😐
*puke*
Facts
Dude I read that as Denny Duvette from Grey's anatomy 😂😂😂
in order to finish my assignement on cancer on time i should read more of the comments here
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This is EVERYTHING! HOLY SPIRIT, the struggle is real!
Why are the comments so addictive though, 🤔? I mean, it's all cancerous nonsense, 😮😫🤒, but I feel COMPELLED to know what others have said about the same thing I just watched, 😵!
WHY!!!???
Maybe...I'm just insecure...and...I need someone else to AGREE with my ideas, and to VALIDATE my opinion. Maybe...I just feel empty and clueless...so...I need other people to lean on so I don't feel like I'm falling on my face EVERYSINGLE time I take one step, 😤😩...
Maybe...my codependent behavior...draws me to cancerous people...*like a moth to a flame*
🐙🦋🔥
Muscular and toned will always be my body goal
X Traps X Lol are you so insecure about you’re self you have to pull others down that have a goal?
Maxster
I'm pretty sure he was responding to a comment that got deleted bud.
Kisamethedarkwolf oh I thought maxter was also commenting to the guy who deleted his comment
He's responding to a deleted comment
Bro, go all in with that goal, don't hold back
"The Guardian says; You could go to the gym every day for a year and still not have..." It is meant to take years.
FACTS
louis gribben its bs i have one and literally everyone whos in shape at my gym... the guardian is always full of shit
The Guardian is abhorrent. And yes you're right dude, the people who write this shit are the same people who walk on the treadmill for an hour and then go get a take out food. Pathetic
So true. Like, who even eats food anymore? It's 2017. Also: only an hour? Jesus christ, what the fuck are these people doing with their lives? Honestly, you have to ask yourself: if you don't hit the gym at LEAST 5 hours a day, what are you doing with your life? These people are complete fucking idiots - instead of "informing" the world with their super offensive fake information, like giving a hypothetical example, they could be making the world a better place by making their own bodies look slightly better (to some people) by spending a shittom of time at the gym! emirite guize?
Michael Scott "if you dont spend 5 hours daily at the gym, what are you doing with your life?" this is the most pathetic question i have ever seen. Note to you, not everyone has spare 5 hours daily just for a fucking gym because your head is fulfilled with that you dont look like that muscular hollywood star or whoever else
#1 Danny Devito
#2 Danny Devito
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#5 Danny Devito
Brendan Berney homophobi
Brendan Berney Wow dude you got the whole squad laughing 😐
Who are you
@@mtziros2250 why are you so cranky? Just because people like chicken better doesn’t enable you to behave so poorly 💯
Finally! People need to know that men also feel pressured to look good!
Michael Wilson you are the definition of stupid
-I don't feel shit. When it comes to attracting females though it's not so much how you look, but how masculine, confident and aggressive you are. Theses are all signs of testosterone, the male hormone. With these traits women can't help but be attracted to you. Underneath the surface of our humanness, we are still primal animals whose main goal is reproduction.
you know bigorexia is just as bad as anorexia. but society barely even acknowledges it
DJ Zalik
Is English your 1st language?
Paint Brush lol right
No, “perfect” is not, nor should it be, “whatever body you rock.” Healthy is sexy. Let’s go for that.
VocalEdgeTV But you can't always base healthy on how someone looks. Yes, you can look at someone who's morbidly obese and tell they're not going to be the healthiest, but there's plenty of skinny people out there who are just as unhealthy. So it's stupid to assume health just by looks alone.
no difference? have you ever talked to a chubby 90 year old?.... didn't think so :)
you dont have to be stacked on muscle yet being slim and defined suggest health while being super skinny and pale makes you look sick thus unattractive
That's why we have to have standards. all people are not equal, not in looks not in brains... do you want F student fixing your roof or installing your triple bypass pacemaker? -but still #BringBackDadBod
I know some big dudes who aren’t “Greek” but they could probably break me in half
The title should be perfect male body changes through out history only in US.
Hahaha. Oh, that's true.
yes I agree. These are Western ideals
Yeah. But ya know, ethnocentrism.
Its annoying how the media always says these bodies are 'unattainable'. Sure, the pressure is very bad on the mind, but these bodies are far from unattainable. They are just plain old healthy looking bodies (minus the steroids for men).
It's just making excuses for the lazy. If you actually want a nice body, you'll get one
Justin Davis they are unattainable because you have to work for it and that is something that is a bit more than we should have to do to be accepted .
cooteyman 202
*"It's unattainable because it isn't served on a silver platter and I can't be arsed to do the work"* Don't you hear yourself? I'm sorry but that's the most shamelessly pathetic excuse for the supposed 'unattainability' of a healthy body I've ever seen. It plays into the unfortunate stereotype of the lazy, hopelessly entitled millennial who expects their perfect life to fall into place without effort. You people should stop spreading this defeatist bollocks as it may discourage people from making the decision to improve.
I believe it is attainable however I think the video was suppose to refer that if you’re not obese nor underweight and just considerably healthy then you shouldn’t have to lift weights or build muscles just to be seen as “sexy” or “hot”. You should just be you. Now if a person is obese then yeah they should work hard but their goal should be to be healthy and not “attractive”.
it is unattainable for some because of how the human body is made. Bone structure, muscle insertions, muscle bellies etc are all genetics. You cant grow 5 inches by working out now can you? The same goes for your broad shoulders or narrow waist. You cant train those
Being healthy: important
Being most attractive: unimportant
Not any body is okay, we should discourage unhealthy lifestyles in favor of living healthy.
ArcticAnDroid uh...considering life literally only exists to replicate...and we are sexually dimorphic...attractiveness to the opposite sex is very important
Also, that you said, "not any body is okay". That's not accurate. We all have different genetics and roles in society.
+D Jay T
considering life literally only exists to replicate..
I live for something else, so something is wrong with your "facts".
Aesthetics cannot be neglected. Aesthetic is Rhetoric both in relationships and business. Your health is a separate thing despite the overlap, and both are critical. Attractiveness is not important if you're satisfied with a difficult time finding a partner, a good job, and social status. If you work twice as hard maybe you will get the same of one or two of those things.
LOL yeah whatever
What ever body you rock?! Screw that!
There is no stopping on the train of gainz!
this guy gets it
Mmq and no ones telling you to die from heart disease.
I haven't lost my virginity because I never lose
WOOO GAIN TRAIN
@@mmq6525 but that doesn't make it the "ideal" body type. That line was just filled with this fake body positivity
honestly as a female i will never get the whole "dad bods are sexy" thing. fit/athletic men is where it's at. to each their own i suppose..
MJ X It will always be that way and it should. Men who work hard deserve women they want anyways.
as long as you don't hold a double standard with the female counterpart, that's fine by me :)
Squiddi no it clearly wont always be that way considering it was once undesirable. And no, hard work doesnt _deserve_ women; hard work is just attractive.
Yekaterina Petrovna Zamolodchikova It was never undesirable, it's what women are attracted to naturally. Simple evolutionary biology.
Squiddi No naturally people are attracted to those best fit for survival. In modern day, our psycchology likely adapts to what society deems attractive. If it were simply a basic natural instinct to be attracted to ripped men, fat men would never have been attractive.
It's weird, but when I was a kid, “shredded” and “cut” specifically meant having very low body fat.The idea was that you could easily see muscle fibers, and muscle separation. Now, shredded and cut mean having both low body fat AND a very large, muscular build. Shredded and cut were originally used in bodybuilding to describe the ideal state for actual bodybuilding competitions, but it was not considered ideal between contests, as it was too difficult to maintain super-low body fat at the same time you were trying to build muscle. Now it seems we have to be genetically gifted, shredded, hyper muscular,...essentially perfect, at all times. Yes, woman have had to deal with much of that all along, but the world is worse off for men joining the ranks of the objectified, and everyone should be set free to just be healthy, not “perfect”.
If someone attained it then it isn't unattainable.
she meant unattainable naturally without steroids, i think she was talking about arnie and the rock
Something can be attainable for one person but not for another.
For example, I'm tall and skinny. I'm strong but most of my muscle mass isn't particularly physically impressive. I can improve on that, and I am, but I'm not gonna try for a Chris Pratt body because I simply don't have the frame for it. And that's cool. I have other interests and I'm good-looking enough for the people I have the most fun with.
It is unattainable if you do not have the time for it. If you work from 9 to 5, you don't have time to waste 3 hours in the gym. The job of those men in the media IS to work out and be hot. That's the difference.
Andy Monserud, I too am tall and skinny. From age 16 to my early 20's I was 6'2 and weighed 145-150. Despite working out regularly I never gained much muscle. For the last 6 months I've made a change to my diet. I now force myself to eat 3000 calories a day. Since then I've gained significant muscle mass while keeping low fat. Sure I don't have the skeletal structure to look like Arnie but it still a major improvement.
Mario Sergio, you only don't have time for it if you choose to not prioritize it. I work 9 to 5, 5 day a week job and I manage to fit in my schedule perfectly fine. It doesn't even have to be 3 hours, a 45 min daily workout can make a world of difference.
I'll have to agree with Leonardo Da Vinci
Honestly nothing beats the Greek statue body physiques. Not too skinny nor fat. Just perfect insanely hard to achieve naturally but amazing and just so appealing. Thats really something to strive for.
you don't need the perfect body you need the most perfect bank account!
If your stupid your bank account won't last need to have a brain. More than one lottery winner went bankrupt so did more than one athlete, actor and singer.
True, cause who would want an average looking woman with a good head on her shoulders when you can pay for a much hotter one.
Raffaele Colucci I mean I have both so im good. but money won't get you love
That's my girl :,D
If I said something related to this about women I'd be called a sexist 😤😡
it's true that from time to time a trend appears that puts apollonian beauty in halt, but this beauty standard is so engraved in our colective consciousness that it never goes completely away, and always comes back. Greek and Roman cultures are still the most influential in western cultures, from the way we behave, to the way we eat, to the way we look.
It was true until Americans started to dominate the culture. However Americans could never become standard in European high culture, just in the popular mass (proletarian peasant) culture.
men:
- shredded
- tall
- successful
- loving at all times no matter what
- funny
women:
- dont be too fat
Ron Santo men:
Tall
Broad shoulders
Defined muscles
Sharp jawline
No body hair
Women:
Big boobs
Big Butt
Small waist
Lean
No body hair
Panala No body hair for men? When i shaved people said i was gay...
iAMGabGab when I don’t shave people say I’m gay, but that’s mainly because I’m not a man. Almost all models are hairless (even males). I think it has become trend or something.
Panala Since when can you be gay as a woman ? xD. Yes i really think it looks way better and is smoother when its shaved, but I never saw a man with shaved legs/arms..
Women
-Thin body shape
- Pretty face
-Long eyelashes
-Hourglass bodyshape
-Curves with an attractive thin body
-Not too much make up but should be still attractive
Excellent video. Keep it up!
its not unattainable, work hard.
boofy yes mate
That's pretty sexist...
Annamart Van Rooyen why?
Ezio_Auditore We constantly tell women they're beautiful just the way they are, why can't we give the same love to men?
Annamart Van Rooyen Because some guys are seriously disgusting lmao
The difference between men and women from what I see in this comment section, is that men don't moan about their desired body types, instead they get it if they wish to get it, and understand that a woman is more attracted to a man who has more muscle. However women, in general, always moan about how the media shows "unattainable body types" and that it's not fair when realistically, a woman is in the exact same position as a man in this scenario, they are just less likely to have the motivation to get up and do something about their unhappiness with their body and want men to accept them for who they are, but probably won't go vice versa.
BuyingOGNames But you’d go for a 200 pound woman?
There's something that you're either forgetting or overlooking. Women are built to have more fat on their bodies as they are the ones who grow another human being inside them. Because this fat is more necessary on the female form, it is more difficult for the average woman to slim down as easily as the average man. Especially considering the roles evolution originally placed the two genders in. Men were typically fighters, while women were providers. Also, keep in mind that weight doesn't always dictate your level of health. Female athletes don't tend to weigh an ideal 120 lbs. And women who are taller weigh more at a healthy weight for them than shorter women at a healthy weight. Honestly I think people obsess too much over numbers on scales. It all really depends.
No because an ideal male body these days is realistic. Everyone can achieve it. I know it's hard but definitely not impossible. A woman's body on the other hand is supposed to be slim/athletic but with curves which is just unrealistic considering the fact, that boobs and butts are basically just fat.
@@Yukalitlee that's bullshit. If you eat healthy you will lose fat. It doesn't matter what gender you are
Barakudaa yes, boobs are just fat, but not the butt idk where you got that from, the butt is muscle, lol
i'm just a fat boy trying to go through life
Jiordano Sapanaro awwww
easy come, easy go
Jiordano Sapanaro
And I'm just a lean guy trying to go through life
Jiordano Sapanaro I respect that
Natural selection will take care of that
Greek = best
GREEN PANDA Yep
Victor Weiher He is talking about musculature. A Greek god with a huge dong mate.
they were pedophiles
What was the movie in the clip?
Kids at age 13 certainly count as children
That can be. Explained in two words
Ricardo milos
1:19 of course not that's called overtraining, your muscles grow when they're recovering i.e during sleep not when you constantly assault them every day. Only people on PED's can annihilate their muscles in that kind of way
It's only overtraining if you do full-body workouts every single day. if you do a split routine, such as push-pull-legs, you can work out every day. Besides, even if you do go full-body, you can still split your routine between strength days and cardio days.
liligman I'ma trainer AND a bodybuilder and im here to tell you that you're absolutely incorrect. Food, not PEDs is the determining factor.
Ok, but you still need to give the body time to use the material from the food to repair the muscles. If you are barraging your muscles with exercise and not giving adequate rest then they will never repair and recover. Give a person all the bricks in the world, if you don't give them any time to build a house then the house will never be built.
Muscle recovery occurs during sleep. Besides, when you do a split, you're not using the same muscles every day. For instance, your arms are resting on the days you work out your legs, and vice versa. Likewise, push-pull-legs gives you two days of rest for all of your muscle groups.
Parma zyxwvu The difference between those 20 years is the act of radiation on human bodies. So no I don't think Spartans had 200x testosterone, all those bodies you see on the video are fake
Jason Genova is pushing the limits of physics by speeding up his molecular structure.
Risto nnnneatherthal
It's piss
I think the best one is the one we have today: dad bods.
For me, dad bods is something like "I used to hit the gym 10 years ago but now I'm just growing fat and I don't care". it's beautiful, 'cause it says "okay, I know everybody is into this lifting weigh thing, but I'm done with it 'cause I'm wiser now" kinda of aspect to it. I don't know, it feels... mature and happier.
2:57 That's the kind of studliness I want to achieve.
so thats why yankee doodle stuck a feather in his hat and called that
Macaroni
fail...
W
Lynden Sterling wanna go out on a date, you are cute
Yankee doodle keep it up yankee doodle dandi
Mind the music and...
If size really mattered, then the elephant would be the king of the jungle not the lion.
Underrated comment is underrated .
But the elephant is still way way stronger than the lion
@@erdem5827 yet being strong isnt everything lion packs kill more elephants than vice versa
But lions dont live in jungles they live on savannas
Lions are muscular bro Els are fat
Perhaps men should focus on mental and emotional strengthening instead of body strengthening right now.. though, combining the two makes you a lot better off. Stop trying to emasculate males. Stay classy, gentlemen.
George Martin shutup. Why dont we do what we want?
Bounty Rogue Cinemax nobody is forcing you
You say that because you're not physically, fit dont you?
It’s about first impression. A good looking guy (including having a nice body) will most likely have more opportunity to attract girls. That’s just nature.
Kid Buu smh dont swallow me
1:05 You mean Marble Film?
Uriah Siner lol
BA DUM TSSS....
Marvel, not marble
KingOfTheJungle That joke went right over your head...
Neel A perhaps
Yes, men feel a great deal of pressure to have a great physique, not only to impress the opposite sex or someone, but also to somewhat keep up or "outdo their counterparts. Many women and men body shame men along with height shaming which primarily come from women.
Did you use the guardian as a source?
Anyway I think most of these body types (like fat) are usually liked as they show that they are well fed
Not because they are physically attractive
Lol what, I mean unless the person has very clear anorexia I don't think a women would be considered with how "well fed" a man is in a 1st world country.
Being fat meant being more wealthy and 1st world countries in the past werent so great
Exactly, fat meant good provider. And that's about it. A lean, muscular man would always be preferred by women. Lean+wealthy > fat+wealthy
What's wrong with The Guardian? It's a great outlet.
Attraction is personal preference. Yes it is affected by many factors of our genetic makeup, but it all comes down to what the person prefers. Even more so considering body types don't really change anything in our current society.
How are they unattainable. They are very attainable. Go to the gym and work out more, cut out sugar. Done your on your way. The ideal male body isnt that of a body builder, its bulky but athletic. Its not unattainable by any means
Alex Johansen "Cut Out sugar" You have no Idea what You are talking about and that ist The proof .lmao
AZEN CF nope sugar turns into fat
izuku midoriya nop
Unattainable means Hollywood steroid physique like the ones she showed, The Rock, Chris Pratt etc.
Evoo She referred to gaining an Adonis belt as being unattainable in the video, which is what is being referenced here.
The amount of times I’ve heard girls talk about guys and how they have “dad bods” is incredible. I don’t think I’ve ever heard one of my guy friends openly make fun of a woman’s image
whatever...ive been lifting for the last two years and now I finally get attention from girls...i didn't when I was fat and happy... I've got the same personality as back then so the only reason I get more attention now is because of my new looks😑
*1.25Speed on everything that's how it is man...life objectifies any gender
Wow, what a shocker, girls don't want to be with a man who can't take care of himself. Cry somewhere else.
Zoey Richardson I don't think you understand what I said. I also don't think you have good vision because my profile picture is me, yet you said I don't take care of myself...
*1.25Speed on everything I don't look at profile pics because I assume they're all fake anyway.
Myke Prior hey, you don't have to have muscles to be an alpha male!
Took it from the ladies and finally got up the courage to ask someone out. Apparently I am too short (5'5) and not muscular enough. Thanks for the good advice.
The ideal body is one that houses a person who is kind, genuine, caring, a good parent, and who cares about their health.
Apollo's belt isnt unnatainable... i have one and so do 50+ guys in my gym., and i don't even have defined abs as of yet
BIG MAN
That’s right , haha
Remus Doere it's genetic gj for you
Remus Doere can i please come to your gym
Everyone can get em with a proper diet. Not quite as hard as some think. Harder when you're metabolism is slower though, but still completely possible.
Thank you for that ending comment, even though obecity is a rising issue now a days, guys and gals alike have self image issues that are usually propogated by UA-cam videos and most media. This was a refreshing perspective!
lesson: be who you want to be and don't pay too much attention to trends. i would never talk about aesthetics on my channel, just about mindset...
Wolkify why are you slowing peoples confidence...you just said be the person you wanna be... don't believe this guy train hard never give up!
@@user-ux8ci1nm1s not everybody wants to be a ripped huge monster. Be the person you want to be refers more to your mind, as that decides who you are.
Birtalan Lóránt did i say everyone get ripped and huge...and what kind of person that wanna be fat/skinny dont listen to this guy too...
13.1.18.11 IsMyName Oooookay, well then. Why can't you three actually listen to each other properly? There's nothing wrong with wanting to have a healthy mind AND a healthy body.
Don't try to normalize things that aren't normal
You can do calculation which shows you your ideal weight and everyone should aim for that weight
But... if you wanna be fat or thin af then so be it, but that is not normal
Don't promote others to be unhealthy, its not that hard to get yourself in shape trust me
Its 2018, people should be smarter
"Be bigger than everybody else, then nobbody will mess with you" then what about Bruce Lee
AMRUTA K
"Be bigger than everybody else, then nobbody will mess with you" is so dumb, ppl gonna mess with u anyway, its just that u will be strong enough to defend urself.
AMRUTA K Well you could be Bruce Lee, but if a guy that outweighs him by a good 70 kilos grabbed him, he could snap him in half. Just speaking realistically, take a look at some of the World's Strongest Man competitors they're fucking huge and could crush a normal person
AMRUTA K
Im doing MMA , there are lot of guys who has more skills but when we spar the bigger guys always win
If someone outweights you by 30-40 kg or even more they will win 90% of the time , if they know basic fighting stance
And also if Big guy cant fight he is still intimidating for people without training
Yousef Sobhani no they cannot crush a human being that is physically impossible human bones are pretty durable
Sgt Virus9 I mean that they could easily kill a smaller guy, not necessarily crush them
Gotta Start Going To The Gym Again😕
Issa Baalbaki diet first it is 90% percent of the equation
actually its %80 and %20 working out
Salma Pesquera I think it's 50 50, especially if you consider my competition.
Yeet
Only 1 out of the 7 capital letters in that sentence was needed.
My boyfriend has a beautiful body. He is on the shorter side, white pale skin and he’s covered in gorgeous freckles and beauty marks. He’s got a muscular back and arms and a tiny lil tummy chub and he is perfect to me. I wouldn’t change a thing.
Liliana X Aw, how sweet of you.
Does she have Autotune on her voice tf :,D 7:28
Combustible Lemon Studio ii
i noticed that too lol
Waaat deee ffuuuuq
And at minute 4:00
Fuck me I’m being body shamed by an action figure with big muscles... I may as well end it.
When people say they only care about personality in a partner, they are straight up lying
1:36 the ideal male body
That means I am also a perfect man, but of a different era. 😂🤣
I'm trying to predict what will be attractive in 2020, need to get a head start.
Physionic lol
Physionic maby ugly is the new handsome
@@callum7171 Let's hope it is because then I finally got a chance. Dhdhhd
Thin guys that look feminine, thank you kpop
@@davidospina7870 k pop was around before 2020🤦♂️ I think more people are all over tiktok boys more in 2020, they're practically the beauty standard now:/
Fat and happy haha
Ralphie Wiggum Well you're angry lol.
Chris Segura but he's right tho
Ralphie Wiggum fat =/= morbidly obese
Buddha
Roronoa Zoro He's not right. The guy probably just liked the "era" doesn't mean he is obese. Even if he was it's non of his business.
To whoever is reading this
Your perfect 💕
you are*
men having issues and insecurities and general problems don't negate the problems of women and vice versa. problems are problems and they're all bad so stop with all these pissing contests of "i have it worse than you"
silas casey man dont have problems they either man up or they are beta trash
Hey Supreme I hope you lose something so dear to you and I hope you cry like a beta (:
wannabe bat Touché. Besides, what's so bad about being a Beta? The world needs variety.
We would have a lot more violence and "pissing contests" as our friend above mentioned if they were all alphas. It wouldn't take much for women to get sick of that.
your definition of beta is something else probably. Like being vulnerable, being emotional all those good things. According to me, a beta human is a human who cant do shit when someone pokes him/her and just keeps hiding/crying. May sound a bit extreme and lacking empathy but it is what it is. Crying like a beta is worse than just crying.
"concentric FEARS?"
I think you mean concentric *spheres.* Was that quote narrated to you? Can you not read?
Jake Karpinski chill 😂
But if concentric fears was a philosophical idea what would it be?
Jake Karpinski 7it7
In my opinion most females go for the fit or not to muscular guy. We have to remember we are not going be in our 20s for ever so is best to maintain a fit healthy body to our old age.
Also u have the risk of the "overly muscular guy" dying from steroid abuse at 45 lmao.
Yeah, I don't like crazy muscle body. I like basketball players' bodies lol
Zach Alan right. I over exaggerated my comment. Maybe 65?
You can't die from steroid abuse
zaffage Moron. Tell that to Rich Piana.
"They had weigh ins for men pushing 200lbs"
If I told any of those guys that I'm 215lbs they'd laugh at me
4:18 so damn perfect 👌 not a single error in that routine.
I think healthy should be a healthy Body. If you are fit and healthy I think that is the best to be and you can decide what that looks like for you. Just take care of your body. Remember God has given us one body let's use it wisely.
Xtremedog83 if you want people to loose weight just for looks and shit then thats being shallow. If its for health reasons then thats necessary
Healthy body... Personally I think a healthy mind is being neglected. :/
Wow i watched this video.. paused halfway.. ran to the gym and now i’m back home. Thnx for the motivation
Where can I find that image used in the thumbnail, HDS beautiful
200 pounds isn't that much if your over 6 foot tall especially if your an athlete like Muhammad Ali or Arnold Schwarzenegger.
It is a lot.
hydrolito Muscle is much heavier than fat is
Whether 200 pounds is a lot depends. For a 7 foot tall man, 200 pounds isn't a lot. For a 5'6 man, 200 pounds is a lot. For 6'3-6'5 200 pounds is not that much like you said, but it's not skinny.
Mr.BloodEyes so 10 pounds of fat weighs less than 5 pounds of muscle? Use correct wording, bitch.
isnt that much if you are an athlete like Arnold Schwarzenegger.....who took steroids...."not much"
Nathan barnatt's character Keith apicary at the end was an absolutely fine touch :D
I don't think the bodybuilder look of the 80s carried over so much beyond then. In the 90s and 2000s I would think a fit model or jock look was more in. Buff seems to have come back in the past decade or so, but I'm thinking superhero bod moreso than the roided out Rock look.
And now here we are... The Unreachable Anime Protagonist Physique.
"Yankee Doodle" was originally a British song taunting American rebels. "Yankee Doodle went to town // Riding on a pony // Stuck a feather in his cap // And called it macaroni" -- oh, those basic Americans, thinking a simple feather makes them macaroni! 🤣
If ur healthy ur more than half way there!
Goes for women and men
when your a very young guy its ok to be thin but once we start approaching mid 20's and above, it is now time to get buff if we still want to look good. the slim cute look just ain't gonna work anymore and getting fat is NEVER acceptable.
There are more important things that physical appearance, how is that impacting society
Prince Doggy Fair, though I agree a bit with each of your ideas.
3:19
friend: it’s just a chill event, don’t be extra
me:
and in 2011 zyzz started the aesthetic movement fuarkkkkkkk
But I'm not born tall :(
Some girls like short men ..... don't worry
@@blackstar1020 like me ;)))
I love your voice and the way you talk
Dad bod doesn't necessarily mean 'fat'. Just a little bit of 'chunk in da front'
As long as the person is healthy and happy I don't even care.
It was interesting until the end then they pushed some all goody bull crap. No matter WHAT the body preference or ideal image is, you should always aspire to be fit; if for no aesthetic purpose, then simply to be healthy. This whole idea of "Body Shaming" is bull, if you're considerably overweight, yes it may be hard to hear, but you need to cut those pounds, not rock those heart problems. If you're incredibly skinny, you need to start being more active and athletic, don't succumb to health issues because people say it's okay and that we shouldn't shame you. PS 90s body expectations weren't unattainable if they were set by people in movies id est the rock who attained them.
Joey Likes Food Body shaming is not "bull". It's short-sighted, and also distracting from something that plagues even worse: Mental health. Obsessing over body images poisons the brain.
Great message
It's just one big never-ending cycle. The pefect look depends on the desires of the opposite sex.
no, being fat and unhealthy will never be attractive.. biological and evolutionary factors has made us hardwired to never find that shit attractive. Youth, fertility, being slender, feminine women will always be attractive for guys and strong, tall, masculine, dominant men will always be attractive for women.. That will never change, it never has throughout the history of mankind and never will
MrD some women don't want that kind of look as fears they will have to compete to keep their partner. Not the same for men but It does depend on the person.
@Mellow Yellow, just bc you're not in shape don't try to ruine it. Get your ass up buddy!
jack ripper .....no , this is facts not sheep thinking
all of these men are beautiful
and all of you men reading this are beautiful
ily 🥰
Awwwwww very sweet.🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹. Thanks Lily 🌺
In the 70’s it was enough to just be thin or average. In the 80’s it was about being body builder big. Nowadays it’s about lean muscle and definition.
I believe body image issues stem from poor reception of one's own attempt at comparing oneself with an ideal. A better way to recieve it is to set goals to acheive it until you come to realize not everything you idolize is realistic.
Just build some muscles and keep a “normal” amount of bodyfat, and you will be good at any time.
4:18, what show or movie is this from?
Hey i get called handsome everyday by the guy I met on the mirror
10:12 Macaronis were the original Drag Queens
I’ve never worked out in my life, (like doing ab workouts and going to the gym), but my dad always took me working ever since I was young and my mom always fed me healthy food. Also I rarely eat any chips or go to fast food to save money on useless stuff. And I’ve never noticed it until few years back I was lean ass fuck and had a 6 pack, I still do but damn it took years without even noticing.
Guess this means I should stop working out. Thanks guys.
Work out, and watch your diet, easy
"easy"
Haha not what it looks like brother
Half the battle is in your mind
. Some habits aren’t easy to break.
Not really. Some people have habits which are harder to break. And eating disorders. Sooooo stfu
Easier said than done my friend
Bruce lee changed the game when he took his shirt off.
im skinny as fuck and its sooo hard to find girls
Ahmet Tugrul Its not hard its impossible
Ahmet Tugrul Eat more and work out then? Or do you expect to become attractive because yes?
I HEARD SKINNY GIRLS HAVE TIGHT VAGINA....SO..
go to that cluckin' bell and get some number nines', fat boy
I’m still waiting on the part two where there will be featuring me
In ancient Greece yes the ideal body was to be muscular BUT men who were fat and had big bellys meant they were rich because they had lots of food so they were equally respected as athletes!!
not as athletes... but more as men with a high social status
I really do appreciate working out hard everyday.@the gym,@ work,etc.
Neck BraceGuy no one gives a fuck
Yyyeeaaahhhh buddyyyy
bingoclickz ironically you cared enough to comment, Hah.
Nice body n immuture mindset with a low iq / self inflicted mental retardation are not attractive .The more guys care about thier body and looks, past a point ,the more common sense and intelligence goes out the window and declines
@@DC3Refom being fit is actually good for your hormonal balance and in turn boosts your neurological activity
Stop using stereotypes like "he's fit so he must be stupid" to shame people just because you're obviously unfit and apparently stupid as well
I’m going to go ahead and confidently assert that being evenly proportioned, well defined, and muscular has always been attractive. Just from a purely evolutionary standpoint, that never has and never will go out of style. Any woman who’s says they’d pick a dad bod over someone in shape is either kidding, not looking at the two side by side, or lacks confident in their own appearance.
It depends on the dad bod because some dad bods do look good. But I myself do prefer someone that's fit too because it shows they take care of themselves and aside from that, I'm into fitness as well.
Thumbnail is fire
I am obviously the most handsome bird in this comment section.
Patrick bateman's body or the classic western body with a strong back, chest and arms, and exercised abs but without a six pack and strong exercised legs like the ones of a boxer like floyd mayweather
Can someone please tell me what movie or series 1:08 is from?
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