Savile seemed to acutely understand the transient nature of TV during this era and how he could occasionally tell you something disturbing about himself without it being heard, by using ambiguity. Which is why the comment at 0:37 is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard him say, because he as good as outright says it. It can only suggest one thing. I think he misjudged how cryptic that line was, because it really wasn't at all. It could only be taken one way, which I won't explicitly clarify because I don't feel at all comfortable writing it. But we all know what he meant. I'm not sure how he got away with that comment at the time, though he obviously did, but with footage like this now being put in the public domain to view on demand, it allows for a far more concentrated ear to really listen to him.
Are you serious? You are actually suggesting that r**ing ch*ldr*n can be offset by doing work for charity? You're playing devil's advocate, aren't you? I'm not falling for it.
@@GeorgeEngland-il1fm I honestly cannot believe that someone could actually condone this man. No he didn't kill anyone, he did far worse because all his victims had to live with what he did and yes he was evil a horrible evil predator of children and young people!
@@matthewrockett9637 I was a kid when he used to do his Christmas morning visits to hospital. I always thought it was a bit creepy. No hindsight involved
WHAT ANNOYED ME WAS WHEN IN 1978 JOHNNY ROTTEN IN A RADIO 1 INTERVIEW SAID HE KNEW SOME RUMOURS ABOUT SAVILLE AND WAS UP TO SEEDY THINGS BUT NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT HE GOT AWAY WITH WHAT HE WAS DOING TILL HE DIED😡
Who? Savile? He's dead thank goodness. As for Rolf another predator so what if he'd done his time. Shouldn't of interfered with his daughters friend. Disgusting. Are you one?
My brother and I both as kids thought there was something strange about creepy Jim he made my skin crawl and I wasn’t surprised when it was official that he was a paedophile. Disgusting.
@@RobSpencer-uq3og I knew from '78 because a nurse from Stoke Mandeville told my friends and i all about him, especially how he was caught in the morgue. Want to reply with another smug comment ?
The biggest crime in all of this was not what you say, the biggest crime in all of this was the BBC and other powerful people knowing what he was all about and keeping a lid on it. Say that Ian. Stop defending that vile monster. Have a word with yourself please.
Even as a kid, I could tell just by watching him on TV that something was not right. The elders must have known he was a wrong un...they let so many people down.
Even more telling is the reaction of the adults on the show: ranging from genuine amusement to extremely nervous laughter. Only Adam Ant makes no effort to mask his horror.
@Vinyl_Dave ⬅️ looking at your various comments on this video, you clearly sound very much like an apologist for this criminal and his behaviour. You probably need to be investigated.
Mountbatten introduced jimmy to phillip....phillip introduced him to Charles...charles introduced jimmy to andrew ....jimmy savvile and all the above were on the deeds to outward bound in sucsession...andrew being the last
What did he do exactly? Sniff girls hair in public? Grab their little buds in public? Force a kiss on them to their disgust? Oh sorry, that is a certain President of a certain country...soon to be removed.
@@kramrollin69 "Oh sorry, that is a certain President of a certain country...soon to be removed." To be replaced by someone who enjoys 'grabbing' women by their pudendum, and who would dearly love to have 'dated' his own daughter. Yanks, eh. They certainly know how to pick them.
Absolutely very true and my first impression when I saw him. I found him utterly creepy and slimy and NEVER was a fan of his. To me, his entire performances were contrived. Horrible. 🇬🇧
What gets me is, how could the parents and other adults not see him for the predator he was then? As a parent to 2 kids myself, I am able to assess who is a danger to children and society. And would not let my children near them at anytime. Were they stupid or just plain dumb? Luckily, the world has woken up now- finally. Atleast diddy is still alive to answer for his crimes.
But there probably wasn't at the time and in crimes like that you need concrete evidence. There was a lot of rumour and heresay, but how much reliable evidence was there? And how many people willing to testify against such a powerful figure? Most of his victims were too scared to come forward or else would be viewed as unreliable witnesses due to age, background, learning difficulties, etc. Predators like Saville pick on the most vulnerable for exactly this reason. And remember paedophila wasn't something people talked about back then and there was less awareness. It was only after his death and with the rise of social media people started speaking up. There those who deserve criticism though. Police and authorities who dismissed complaints and failed to investigate.Those scared of the consequences of the scandal and stayed quiet for that reason Although without hard evidence they may have been scared of being prosecuted for libel. Blaming Starmer was just a Tory and rightwing tabloid smear campaign without any evidence. Don't be gullible and fall for it. The Tories don't care about the victims, just nasty smearing of a political opponent. They said fuck all at the time, like everyone else, mainly because Thatcher was one of his chief supporters and enablers, she literally gave him the keys to Broadmoor as well as honours.
There may have been some evidence of him being 'a creep', and the BBC should have got rid of him. But there may not have been evidence of him actually abusing (I don't know). You can't prosecute people for being 'a creep'.
Starmer was running the CPS but he wasn't personally involved in casework. It was the reviewing lawyer who decided not to proceed. And while that might look like a bad decision in hindsight, at the time it may well have been that there wasn't enough evidence to proceed. Remember, him acting creepy on TV 30 years prior might be good enough for US to decide he was a wrong 'un, but it's not good enough for a court of law. To proceed they'd need witnesses, forensic evidence and the like. If they didn't have it then they didn't have it.
I grew up with my mum saying hes a pervert and a nonse would never send my letters or my sister's letters to jim will fix it, she knew we wouldn't of been safe, as we were vulnerable as we were in care, i grew up knowing exactly what jimmy saville was, how come he got away with it until he died, the BBC have a lot to answer for,
Tracey, don't be upset by AMEER -114-'s comment. He doesn't understand that we are all different with different levels of skills. He was being cruel and patronising, a common trait amongst people of low self-esteem and mediocre talent. To AMMEER-14-, I feel sorry for you and hope that in the future you will feel more confident and self assured and become a happy, kind person.
Many of the commenters here don't seem to understand that the full extent of the lifelong emotional damage done by paedophiles to their victims has only been recognised relatively recently, as in maybe 1990s. In the 70s and 80s, people knew underage sex, and particularly between an older man and an underage girl, was wrong... but you'd routinely see jokes about it, in TV cop shows, comedy programmes, etc. To such an extent that it really sends a shiver down your spine these days: I saw a 1970s UK TV cop show the other day, "The Villain's Tale" (GF Newman) ... and in that you see grown men glancing at 14-year-old girls playing sport and saying "you would though" ... "it'd be worth it" (i.e. going to prison for). I personally remember, as a teenager, in the 1970s, hearing a programme broadcast on BBC Radio 4, in which a spokesman for something called the "Paedophile Information Exchange" openly advocated for allowing sex with ... children as young as four years old. That programme was broadcast in the afternoon on Radio 4. Even I, at the age of 16 or so, was amazed to hear that, and I remember it to this day. And it's amazing how much broadcasting something on the BBC has (or had) the power to normalise such evil. Yes, once again the BBC in the frame. Not their finest hour.
True enough. Let's not forget, as a reaction to sweeping Savile and a couple of other miscreants under the carpet, the BBC then pounced on Cliff Richard, whose only crime as far as i can see, was being slightly arrogant.
You're spot on! The broadcast you heard was called PIE for short and operated in plain sight. Due to a loophole, CP was legal in Denmark and it was made and distributed by one of the biggest p*rnography companies in the world at the time, Color Climax. They closed the loophole at the beginning of the 80s, but shops still openly sold it until the mid 80s. It sounds unbelievable but true. I'm so glad we can talk more openly about these horrific crimes. I think we have a long way to go because there's still a taboo element attached to even talking about it but something needs to be done for the kids. I think people forget that those kids turn into adults and have lifelong trauma and problems, which impacts almost every aspect of their life. It is horrifying and sad.
As a child in the 70's and 80's I found him weird and patronising to children, though when he first appeared it was a time even pop show presenters would invariably be wearing a suit and have all their lines scripted. TV executives would have been looking for ways to reflect the emerging, more permissive attitudes of the 1960's youth, and having TOTP presenters draped in girls was part of it. The old rules were thrown up in the air and no one knew yet where the new lines were going to be. Savile never had any chemistry with guests or even other presenters. His method was creating awkwardness and disorientation by going overboard with flattery, playing an eccentric lothario and taking control of the room. Not entirely dissimilar to a certain Mr Russell Brand.
@@emmagoldman99 Margaret Thatcher just happened to be Prime Minister in the 1980's. Despite some manipulated photos you may see on the internet, he never campaigned for any political party. He raised enormous amounts for charity so was rewarded with a knighthood. He was also offered positions of power in institutions because he was seen as an apolitical force who could 'get things done' with the force of his personality at a time when many thought solving the nation's problems was impossible because of political deadlock. In fact, he was using the same skills of being flirtatious and pushy in order to misdirect attention, get access to victims and buy his way into an afterlife.
How the hell did this vile creepy bastard get away with this stuff? Shame on the BBC and everyone else who covered up this vile behaviour for so many years!
Now he is in hell where he can suffer like his victims for all eternity except his suffering shall be far worse than we can possibly comprehend which he so rightfully deserves.
The cheeky fuck got the last rights he'll be in hell but think are it's just purgatory,there's a four part series by Steven Coogan it's on youtube it's hard to watch what he got up to.
Some of the ways he dressed, shirt unbuttoned to the navel on a kids show. WTF was the producers/directors thinking? A lot of people who enabled him are still walking free today.
What a vile insidious human. Long before his sexual interest in children was discussed, I really disliked him, disliked watching any television programmes with him.
This video was therapeutic for me because even though I wasn't sexually abused as a child it triggered memories of visiting my mothers parents as a small child in the 60's and early 70's and not wanting to sit next to her father or go near him. Visits were in the small living room and I was never alone with him to the best of my knowledge, however I hated those visits and the "slagging" that he would go on with. I'm sure I remember him and my mother and Grandmother laughing and teasing me about not wanting to go near him and even derisive scathing remarks about me by my mother. I remember the feeling of resistance , of wanting to get away from the dark, horrible cloying energy from him. I think there are demons in Child Molestors and they are after the innocent energy that children have. Like most children I knew nothing about sexual matrers then and my reaction was instinctive. Seeing the children in this video put in a position where they were forced to be that close to Saville and some of his guests is disturbing because children in those times were expected to do as they were told and I couldn't say anything remotely suspicous about anyone or anything because of my mothers scathing, scornful, indignant type of response. In those days adults always seemed to say that it was only "your own bad mind" if I voiced any unwelcome perceptions or observations or concerns.
Eloquently put. I suspect...that your instincts were correct and erring on the side of caution was wise; despite what your mother (with her lack of protective leanings) may have thought and said.
@thephilpott2194 My mother knew all too well what he was like and her sisters, brothers, mother, two of my cousins and numerous young women at the factory where he used to work. Seeing those children having to sit so close to Saville triggered memories and emotions in me and still do remembering it. The strange thing was is that ever since I've had more energy, probably because it takes energy to repress memories.
Thing is, its only bait now because we all know what we know, at the time, i imagine it was just taken as an adult telling kid girls ‘aw, aren’t you pretty?’, at worst maybe he was just…an ol’ northern bloke of a certain era and was just overly complimentary. I imagine a lot of people in the circle knew, or rumours existed, which they clearly did…but men don’t hang for rumours. Turns out he was a fuckin’ dirty old bastard of the highest order. I was 9 years old in 1992, i just about remember Jim’ll Fix It, can’t say it ever occured to me that he was pervy or inappropriate. He just seemed like an exccentric, Englands full of em, look at the horse racing commentary fella…or Screaming Lord Sutch. Also, a lot less was made of dirty old men in those days, every street had one, hence the whole ‘dont talk to strangers’ thing they taught you as kids, there ain’t that many kidnappers or serial killers in England, that shit was/is basically a reference to the old pervies that knocked about back in the day.
Savile was very good at hiding in plain sight with the comments he made. It's amazing that he managed to get away with what he did for decades up until his death. Looking back in hindsight it seems so obvious the kind of monster that he was.
Exactly, the days of "slap and tickle" where you could do as you please with Girls and everyone thought it was great fun, that was the culture back then. More weirdo's now than there ever was back then!
@@thephilpott2194 Were you there? For those of us who lived back in the sixties and Seventies the rules were totally different! No queers or they go to jail if caught, but as long as you stuck with Girls you were ok. Actually Rolf didn't have anything to do with underage Girls, he was set up as his Daughter has testified, he had affairs with young women but that's it! Almost all Men who were in the spotlight all had young mistresses and it was perfectly normal! I myself was involved in Music 🎶 and played in bands or was roadie for big bands and the Girls who made themselves available for us were anything from schoolgirls upwards, fact!
I remember as a kid in the 70's watching Jim'll fix it. I do remember him asking the girls if they were married, but being a child and innocent myself, I didn't think much of it.
Savile was such a creep and several people around him must have known, but maybe had no idea of the scale of what he actually did. He was old, weird and creepy, and those young children in that video Savile was old enough to be their grandfather. Watching this video now it's so obvious something was badly wrong with him. But he got in with high profile people and mixed in high society, and done a lot of work for charity, he was cunning, and hiding in plain sight. It was astonishing how he got away with it.
I no. The kray twins did bad things however they were right about Jim fix it back in the late 70s and 80s saying that it was not right how he had the keys to hospital s and homes on hospital ground s like he was a doctor or a nurse and if the mps and the BBC heard what was being said it might of be sorted out yrs ago
It was of the time and widely accepted, it has only become an issue these days in the woke society. If he had said to a child "do you want to be my girlfriend" off camera it would definitely have been a cause for concern. But this was a TV presenter interacting with his audience all up front and in front of millions. There was nothing sordid about that, making a video and putting your own narrative to it, maybe that's a little bit creepy in itself.
Well said. The very fact that he could say these things week in and week out in front of a national television audiance would suggest to anybody with a brain that things were different back then.
how can you say that knowing what we do now? The truth is we simply weren't as aware of how many celebrities had/have a taste for children... we were naive to their predilections and now we aren't, that's all that has changed...
not at all, there is worse, he 'goosed' a teen live on Top of the Pops as she stood right next to him... she jumped but it was live and he took advantage of that.... she couldn't really react apart from being shocked...
Makes my stomach turn knowing how many peodos he had on the show, it shouldn't have been allowed to carry on and he should have been brought to justice ⚖️ .. just vile behaviour 😮
Why did everybody wait til he was dead before accusing him when he couldn't defend himself? In all his years he was never arrested or brought to trial, so he remains innocent because he was never proven guilty..:)
The Internet had also been around for two decades by the time he died, and yet you'll never find a single anonymous online accusation against him from that period.
This video is ridiculous. Every presenter would put his arms around people back then. Therefore nothing was hidden in plain sight. What did other TV personalities know about Jimmy Saville? Now, that's a very interesting question.
6.28 the kid that got to go on the star wars set was in our class at school, and co incidentally we attended a ' Jimmys Jaunt ' sponsored walk, we thankfully escaped unscathed
What a shame he died before being punished and humiliated. It makes me cringe to think that as a kid, Jim'll Fix It was one of my favourite programmes.
No, anyone can make a mountain out of a molehill, if that is what you want to do. Why would you want to do that? Examine your own mind. AS A THING IS VIEWED - SO IT APPEARS.
What a complete idiot, 'she's my girlfriend, I think I have add a girlfriend to my collection'. He was the lowest bottom feeder around and sadly his friends are still here.
The fact this man escaped judgment is inexcusable. It's cases of this level of pure evil I truly believe hell exists and that Satan gives ol' Savile the judgement he so rightfully deserves
When you were young you couldnt see anything.As an adult watching now its crystal.He got away because he was trusted.For all those who protected him may you all suffer in damnation.
Savile seemed to acutely understand the transient nature of TV during this era and how he could occasionally tell you something disturbing about himself without it being heard, by using ambiguity. Which is why the comment at 0:37 is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard him say, because he as good as outright says it. It can only suggest one thing. I think he misjudged how cryptic that line was, because it really wasn't at all. It could only be taken one way, which I won't explicitly clarify because I don't feel at all comfortable writing it. But we all know what he meant. I'm not sure how he got away with that comment at the time, though he obviously did, but with footage like this now being put in the public domain to view on demand, it allows for a far more concentrated ear to really listen to him.
Why dont you spend some time judging yourself as well as the man who did much for charitable causes. We are all sinners.
Are you serious? You are actually suggesting that r**ing ch*ldr*n can be offset by doing work for charity? You're playing devil's advocate, aren't you? I'm not falling for it.
@@GeorgeEngland-il1fm WTF are you condoning what he did just because he did a lot for charity? He was a horrible evil predator!
@kentzu1975 Evil ? Really ? He never killed anyone. And theres NO absolute proof he did the things he's accused of.
@@GeorgeEngland-il1fm I honestly cannot believe that someone could actually condone this man. No he didn't kill anyone, he did far worse because all his victims had to live with what he did and yes he was evil a horrible evil predator of children and young people!
The people that let him get away with it are scum
People do anything for money
RIGHT EWWWWWWWWWW
Yes people like you
Most are still on BBC payroll.
And it's still going on. Its bigger then you think.
Never understood the appeal of this creep.
In hindsight we all can say that.
I can. His appeal was he was handsome, witty, funny and entertaining.
@@r4h4al he was a charming fellow.
In times to come people will say the same about 'Stormsy' ...Rizzle kicks etc etc . . .
@@matthewrockett9637 I was a kid when he used to do his Christmas morning visits to hospital. I always thought it was a bit creepy. No hindsight involved
Horrible bastard.
WHAT ANNOYED ME WAS WHEN IN 1978 JOHNNY ROTTEN IN A RADIO 1 INTERVIEW SAID HE KNEW SOME RUMOURS ABOUT SAVILLE AND WAS UP TO SEEDY THINGS BUT NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT HE GOT AWAY WITH WHAT HE WAS DOING TILL HE DIED😡
He knew too much about other powerful people.
Allowed to do what he liked to keep him silent.
He has done his time
They were all in on it@@fleurtaylor7311
Who?
Savile?
He's dead thank goodness.
As for Rolf another predator so what if he'd done his time.
Shouldn't of interfered with his daughters friend.
Disgusting.
Are you one?
He certainly put the vile in Savile!!
Even kids found him strange
Kids can sense a wrong un.
My brother and I both as kids thought there was something strange about creepy Jim he made my skin crawl and I wasn’t surprised when it was official that he was a paedophile. Disgusting.
Oh yeah, I remember at school we all thought he was seriously creepy.
Referring to the girls as 'girlfriends', is bizzare, to say the least. Surprised no one questioned him.
We were not so worldly wise in those days unfortunately
The biggest crime in all of this was that he'd popped off before all the allegations came out,he would of gone down a storm in prison with his barnet.
The allegations started coming out in 1978 but kept getting swept under the carpet, they all knew about him from the top down.
He passed away calm at peace in a chair with a goblet in one hand and a cigar in the other, nothing set on fire, no issues
@@Mr.Grimsdale and no doubt you always "had a feeling" eh?
@@RobSpencer-uq3og I knew from '78 because a nurse from Stoke Mandeville told my friends and i all about him, especially how he was caught in the morgue. Want to reply with another smug comment ?
The biggest crime in all of this was not what you say, the biggest crime in all of this was the BBC and other powerful people knowing what he was all about and keeping a lid on it. Say that Ian. Stop defending that vile monster. Have a word with yourself please.
Even as a kid, I could tell just by watching him on TV that something was not right. The elders must have known he was a wrong un...they let so many people down.
No, you were too young and immature. The 70s were fantastic.
Can’t wacth
Even more telling is the reaction of the adults on the show: ranging from genuine amusement to extremely nervous laughter. Only Adam Ant makes no effort to mask his horror.
Uncomfortable viewing to say the least,
This is disgusting.
Is that why you came to click on it?
@Vinyl_Dave ⬅️ looking at your various comments on this video, you clearly sound very much like an apologist for this criminal and his behaviour. You probably need to be investigated.
And yes, he was 'awarded' a knighthood!!
Prince Andrew needed company.
"And yes, he was 'awarded' a knighthood!!" On the personal recommendation of Maggie.
knighthood is the silencer
Mountbatten introduced jimmy to phillip....phillip introduced him to Charles...charles introduced jimmy to andrew ....jimmy savvile and all the above were on the deeds to outward bound in sucsession...andrew being the last
Adam Ant looked a bit uncomfortable.
JS always gave me the creeps and I never knew why.
And there he was, in plan sight.
The BBC kewn what Jimmy Savile was doing but turned a blind eye he got away with so much its disgusting behaviour
$$$$$$$
What did he do exactly? Sniff girls hair in public? Grab their little buds in public? Force a kiss on them to their disgust? Oh sorry, that is a certain President of a certain country...soon to be removed.
@@kramrollin69 Unfortunately elected.... maybe someone will 'remove' him
@@kramrollin69 "Oh sorry, that is a certain President of a certain country...soon to be removed." To be replaced by someone who enjoys 'grabbing' women by their pudendum, and who would dearly love to have 'dated' his own daughter. Yanks, eh. They certainly know how to pick them.
What is disgusting about it?
Again dead eyes..the eyes are the windows
Absolutely very true and my first impression when I saw him. I found him utterly creepy and slimy and NEVER was a fan of his. To me, his entire performances were contrived.
Horrible. 🇬🇧
The worst thing about this is that the BBC and most of the top brass knew about it and turned a blind eye
If a haircut ever said nonce, that was the one.
😂
And appearing half naked........................around kids!
Even as a very young child I found him to be incredibly creepy and made my skin crawl so, I really wasn't surprised.
That yodelling noise he made was horrible
He should of been locked up long ago with those hair styles 😂
Well look at 6.50 to see why he didn't get locked up. Thatcher!
😂😂😂
@@garyturner5739 look at 6:26 - the worst
That's fucking terrifying. 😢
And kier starmer said not enough evidence to prosecute jimmy saville
What gets me is, how could the parents and other adults not see him for the predator he was then?
As a parent to 2 kids myself, I am able to assess who is a danger to children and society.
And would not let my children near them at anytime. Were they stupid or just plain dumb?
Luckily, the world has woken up now- finally.
Atleast diddy is still alive to answer for his crimes.
But there probably wasn't at the time and in crimes like that you need concrete evidence.
There was a lot of rumour and heresay, but how much reliable evidence was there? And how many people willing to testify against such a powerful figure? Most of his victims were too scared to come forward or else would be viewed as unreliable witnesses due to age, background, learning difficulties, etc.
Predators like Saville pick on the most vulnerable for exactly this reason. And remember paedophila wasn't something people talked about back then and there was less awareness. It was only after his death and with the rise of social media people started speaking up.
There those who deserve criticism though. Police and authorities who dismissed complaints and failed to investigate.Those scared of the consequences of the scandal and stayed quiet for that reason Although without hard evidence they may have been scared of being prosecuted for libel.
Blaming Starmer was just a Tory and rightwing tabloid smear campaign without any evidence. Don't be gullible and fall for it. The Tories don't care about the victims, just nasty smearing of a political opponent.
They said fuck all at the time, like everyone else, mainly because Thatcher was one of his chief supporters and enablers, she literally gave him the keys to Broadmoor as well as honours.
And the BBC knew and did nothing but hide him.
There may have been some evidence of him being 'a creep', and the BBC should have got rid of him. But there may not have been evidence of him actually abusing (I don't know). You can't prosecute people for being 'a creep'.
Starmer was running the CPS but he wasn't personally involved in casework. It was the reviewing lawyer who decided not to proceed. And while that might look like a bad decision in hindsight, at the time it may well have been that there wasn't enough evidence to proceed. Remember, him acting creepy on TV 30 years prior might be good enough for US to decide he was a wrong 'un, but it's not good enough for a court of law. To proceed they'd need witnesses, forensic evidence and the like. If they didn't have it then they didn't have it.
I grew up with my mum saying hes a pervert and a nonse would never send my letters or my sister's letters to jim will fix it, she knew we wouldn't of been safe, as we were vulnerable as we were in care, i grew up knowing exactly what jimmy saville was, how come he got away with it until he died, the BBC have a lot to answer for,
Did you actually look at the confused mess you wrote before posting it?
Noooo
@AMEER-114- really saville was a asshole pervert who preyed on the vulnerable,
Tracey, don't be upset by AMEER -114-'s comment. He doesn't understand that we are all different with different levels of skills. He was being cruel and patronising, a common trait amongst people of low self-esteem and mediocre talent.
To AMMEER-14-, I feel sorry for you and hope that in the future you will feel more confident and self assured and become a happy, kind person.
@@j.b3561Well said. I could understand exactly what Tracey was putting forward.
It's fairly obvious that he often made an effort to get physically close to young kids. He couldn't seem to help himself....
Cos he was a nonce.
Many of the commenters here don't seem to understand that the full extent of the lifelong emotional damage done by paedophiles to their victims has only been recognised relatively recently, as in maybe 1990s. In the 70s and 80s, people knew underage sex, and particularly between an older man and an underage girl, was wrong... but you'd routinely see jokes about it, in TV cop shows, comedy programmes, etc. To such an extent that it really sends a shiver down your spine these days: I saw a 1970s UK TV cop show the other day, "The Villain's Tale" (GF Newman) ... and in that you see grown men glancing at 14-year-old girls playing sport and saying "you would though" ... "it'd be worth it" (i.e. going to prison for). I personally remember, as a teenager, in the 1970s, hearing a programme broadcast on BBC Radio 4, in which a spokesman for something called the "Paedophile Information Exchange" openly advocated for allowing sex with ... children as young as four years old. That programme was broadcast in the afternoon on Radio 4. Even I, at the age of 16 or so, was amazed to hear that, and I remember it to this day. And it's amazing how much broadcasting something on the BBC has (or had) the power to normalise such evil. Yes, once again the BBC in the frame. Not their finest hour.
Weren't certain Labour MPs supporting them ? some Socialist / Left / Green cockroaches who are still about spewing their vile propaganda too ? ,,,,,,
True enough. Let's not forget, as a reaction to sweeping Savile and a couple of other miscreants under the carpet, the BBC then pounced on Cliff Richard, whose only crime as far as i can see, was being slightly arrogant.
You're spot on!
The broadcast you heard was called PIE for short and operated in plain sight.
Due to a loophole, CP was legal in Denmark and it was made and distributed by one of the biggest p*rnography companies in the world at the time, Color Climax. They closed the loophole at the beginning of the 80s, but shops still openly sold it until the mid 80s. It sounds unbelievable but true.
I'm so glad we can talk more openly about these horrific crimes. I think we have a long way to go because there's still a taboo element attached to even talking about it but something needs to be done for the kids.
I think people forget that those kids turn into adults and have lifelong trauma and problems, which impacts almost every aspect of their life.
It is horrifying and sad.
As a child in the 70's and 80's I found him weird and patronising to children, though when he first appeared it was a time even pop show presenters would invariably be wearing a suit and have all their lines scripted. TV executives would have been looking for ways to reflect the emerging, more permissive attitudes of the 1960's youth, and having TOTP presenters draped in girls was part of it. The old rules were thrown up in the air and no one knew yet where the new lines were going to be.
Savile never had any chemistry with guests or even other presenters. His method was creating awkwardness and disorientation by going overboard with flattery, playing an eccentric lothario and taking control of the room. Not entirely dissimilar to a certain Mr Russell Brand.
This is well put. I think his friendship with Thatcher was also interesting. What did she see in him?
@@emmagoldman99 Margaret Thatcher just happened to be Prime Minister in the 1980's. Despite some manipulated photos you may see on the internet, he never campaigned for any political party. He raised enormous amounts for charity so was rewarded with a knighthood. He was also offered positions of power in institutions because he was seen as an apolitical force who could 'get things done' with the force of his personality at a time when many thought solving the nation's problems was impossible because of political deadlock. In fact, he was using the same skills of being flirtatious and pushy in order to misdirect attention, get access to victims and buy his way into an afterlife.
John Lydon (Jonny Rotten) of the SeX PiStOLs & P.l.L new what was going on with him and tried to speak out but no one took any notice of him.
Yep, The BBC again. Thank goodness that audio tape survived.
Alvin Stardust is well creepy here, absolute horror.
A few victims have outed him as well. Dead now and not as famous so he got away with it.
Check the clip to his "pretend"... he looks very comfortable among the kids there, to say the least.
How the hell did this vile creepy bastard get away with this stuff? Shame on the BBC and everyone else who covered up this vile behaviour for so many years!
They've learnt nothing from this look it Hue Edwards scandal to see they havent.
He got away with it because he had a lot of dirt on other people, which is the reason certain other people will not be prosecuted
Thatcher enabled him, gave him a lot of proletariat kudos, don't forget.
Now he is in hell where he can suffer like his victims for all eternity except his suffering shall be far worse than we can possibly comprehend which he so rightfully deserves.
The cheeky fuck got the last rights he'll be in hell but think are it's just purgatory,there's a four part series by Steven Coogan it's on youtube it's hard to watch what he got up to.
Some of the ways he dressed, shirt unbuttoned to the navel on a kids show. WTF was the producers/directors thinking? A lot of people who enabled him are still walking free today.
Skin crawling
What a vile insidious human. Long before his sexual interest in children was discussed, I really disliked him, disliked watching any television programmes with him.
My grandad rest in peace, said to my dad way back in 1970s there is something not right with that man, i do feel sadly many people were fooled by him.
This video was therapeutic for me because even though I wasn't sexually abused as a child it triggered memories of visiting my mothers parents as a small child in the 60's and early 70's and not wanting to sit next to her father or go near him.
Visits were in the small living room and I was never alone with him to the best of my knowledge, however I hated those visits and the "slagging" that he would go on with.
I'm sure I remember him and my mother and Grandmother laughing and teasing me about not wanting to go near him and even derisive scathing remarks about me by my mother.
I remember the feeling of resistance , of wanting to get away from the dark, horrible cloying energy from him.
I think there are demons in Child Molestors and they are after the innocent energy that children have.
Like most children I knew nothing about sexual matrers then and my reaction was instinctive.
Seeing the children in this video put in a position where they were forced to be that close to Saville and some of his guests is disturbing because children in those times were expected to do as they were told and I couldn't say anything remotely suspicous about anyone or anything because of my mothers scathing, scornful, indignant type of response.
In those days adults always seemed to say that it was only "your own bad mind" if I voiced any unwelcome perceptions or observations or concerns.
Eloquently put. I suspect...that your instincts were correct and erring on the side of caution was wise; despite what your mother (with her lack of protective leanings) may have thought and said.
@thephilpott2194 My mother knew all too well what he was like and her sisters, brothers, mother, two of my cousins and numerous young women at the factory where he used to work.
Seeing those children having to sit so close to Saville triggered memories and emotions in me and still do remembering it.
The strange thing was is that ever since I've had more energy, probably because it takes energy to repress memories.
Good vid. Well put together. Lots of jaw dropping moments.
This man is the definition of pervy.
Jimmy SoVile!
The whistling of the crowd of girl showing a party dress is creepy, alongside what that filthy bastard said aswell .
‘ ‘ave a grab’ at 9:54. Who the F were those twats ? Openly groping a young child !
The Rubettes
Thing is, its only bait now because we all know what we know, at the time, i imagine it was just taken as an adult telling kid girls ‘aw, aren’t you pretty?’, at worst maybe he was just…an ol’ northern bloke of a certain era and was just overly complimentary. I imagine a lot of people in the circle knew, or rumours existed, which they clearly did…but men don’t hang for rumours. Turns out he was a fuckin’ dirty old bastard of the highest order.
I was 9 years old in 1992, i just about remember Jim’ll Fix It, can’t say it ever occured to me that he was pervy or inappropriate. He just seemed like an exccentric, Englands full of em, look at the horse racing commentary fella…or Screaming Lord Sutch.
Also, a lot less was made of dirty old men in those days, every street had one, hence the whole ‘dont talk to strangers’ thing they taught you as kids, there ain’t that many kidnappers or serial killers in England, that shit was/is basically a reference to the old pervies that knocked about back in the day.
starmers peado pal absolutely DISGUSTING!!!
Yes would you leave a kid with starmer no way.
Something not quiet right with kier starmer. It seems to me he has lots of secrets
Savile was an advisor to the then Prince Charles and now the King.
This footage makes me run cold, had to stop watching at 1.45 seconds 😢
Me too its sickening and disturbing!
Savile was very good at hiding in plain sight with the comments he made. It's amazing that he managed to get away with what he did for decades up until his death. Looking back in hindsight it seems so obvious the kind of monster that he was.
Hes now at home in hell .
It wasn't considered offensive back then, in fact was very popular???
Exactly, the days of "slap and tickle" where you could do as you please with Girls and everyone thought it was great fun, that was the culture back then. More weirdo's now than there ever was back then!
@@stuartwaby3081 Only if the girls were old enough to be self aware. These kids were mere sprogs.
@@thephilpott2194 Were you there? For those of us who lived back in the sixties and Seventies the rules were totally different! No queers or they go to jail if caught, but as long as you stuck with Girls you were ok. Actually Rolf didn't have anything to do with underage Girls, he was set up as his Daughter has testified, he had affairs with young women but that's it! Almost all Men who were in the spotlight all had young mistresses and it was perfectly normal! I myself was involved in Music 🎶 and played in bands or was roadie for big bands and the Girls who made themselves available for us were anything from schoolgirls upwards, fact!
Well tbh all that seems very innocent. And back in the day tahts how people pervieved it. More innocent times.
Indicative of a deeper problem though.
And all the monsters who ignored and kept quiet when they knew are just as disgusting
I remember as a kid in the 70's watching Jim'll fix it. I do remember him asking the girls if they were married, but being a child and innocent myself, I didn't think much of it.
Savile was such a creep and several people around him must have known, but maybe had no idea of the scale of what he actually did. He was old, weird and creepy, and those young children in that video Savile was old enough to be their grandfather. Watching this video now it's so obvious something was badly wrong with him. But he got in with high profile people and mixed in high society, and done a lot of work for charity, he was cunning, and hiding in plain sight. It was astonishing how he got away with it.
I no. The kray twins did bad things however they were right about Jim fix it back in the late 70s and 80s saying that it was not right how he had the keys to hospital s and homes on hospital ground s like he was a doctor or a nurse and if the mps and the BBC heard what was being said it might of be sorted out yrs ago
If you were a teenage boy in the 60's and Ronnie Kray took a fancy to you, your rear end would never be the same again.
You can see where he and Rolf Harris had their hands by where they coincidentally placed the stickers on the poor girls.
I dont understand, where do u find these sorts of clips? I thought these were lost to time, these are super rare
Oh look, Starmers best mate Savile, Make the uk better, get rid of this government.
Hey, don't forget Thatcher enabled him. And was bestest buddies!
Do people think this doesn't go on anymore in the BBC??
It was of the time and widely accepted, it has only become an issue these days in the woke society. If he had said to a child "do you want to be my girlfriend" off camera it would definitely have been a cause for concern. But this was a TV presenter interacting with his audience all up front and in front of millions. There was nothing sordid about that, making a video and putting your own narrative to it, maybe that's a little bit creepy in itself.
Well said. The very fact that he could say these things week in and week out in front of a national television audiance would suggest to anybody with a brain that things were different back then.
He was a massive fucking child rapist. If not the biggest in history and you saying that. Fucking freaks
Alright ya nonce
how can you say that knowing what we do now? The truth is we simply weren't as aware of how many celebrities had/have a taste for children... we were naive to their predilections and now we aren't, that's all that has changed...
@@garetht9666 Only that we were all naive... even then, those with eyes could see he was off...
Alvin Stardust (Shane Fenton in a previous life) looking rather creepy at 9.02.
That didn't sit comfortable with me either 👍🏻
What a bloody creep.
As kids we grew up in Leeds and was allways told to keep away from this creep that was in the 70s and 80s how right was are parents
You can tell he's a child violinist just by looking at him.
Why coz he's white?
so surreal I questioned wether this was deep faked
not at all, there is worse, he 'goosed' a teen live on Top of the Pops as she stood right next to him... she jumped but it was live and he took advantage of that.... she couldn't really react apart from being shocked...
isnt it obvious now that the savile case was a Psy-op ... ?
Well pointed out 💯
What do you mean,he was intentionally put in front of us on the T.v
Please explain I'm beginning to think lots of things are... that's if you can be bothered.
I was young when he was on telly and couldnt watch him as he was creepy
He was an arrogant bully and a sicko.
He even managed to bring the mighty Chewbacca into his filth!
Makes my stomach turn knowing how many peodos he had on the show, it shouldn't have been allowed to carry on and he should have been brought to justice ⚖️ .. just vile behaviour 😮
The hair cut was a give away. They knew what he was like and still allowed him to be this close to kids
What's hair got to do with it ?
BBC when it comes to Jimmy savile should stand for bloody believable creep! 😠
Looking back at this he said leave me alone all night! I feel like screeming WTAF it was all Infront of us
This is so disgusting and I can’t believe it his beast was actually allowed to carry on like this with children 😢
the BBC knew about this monster.
Hello judge?
Apparently that really was Peter Mayhew playing Chewbacca.
Why this man never spent a day in prison🙄😑
Evil Man
Why did everybody wait til he was dead before accusing him when he couldn't defend himself?
In all his years he was never arrested or brought to trial, so he remains innocent because he was never proven guilty..:)
Right bloody idots hes laughing up there
..and now we see the erasure of our British culture being replaced with . . . . .
@@pinky-ud1rt He raised millions for charity, I bet they're glad to hang onto it..:)
The Internet had also been around for two decades by the time he died, and yet you'll never find a single anonymous online accusation against him from that period.
He had sexual assault allegations dating to 1978 but they were ignored
Alone his hair was a crime.
That's the least of the crimes he was responsible for for.
It was the style we had some weird styles back then lol
This video is ridiculous. Every presenter would put his arms around people back then. Therefore nothing was hidden in plain sight. What did other TV personalities know about Jimmy Saville? Now, that's a very interesting question.
*sight.
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'I'm ashamed to admit it but we all knew what was going on' - Bill Oddie talking about Saville during his time working at the BBC.
Did you listen to what he said? Its creepy af
There are still lots of adults today who will be nonchalant and say nothing happened
6.28 the kid that got to go on the star wars set was in our class at school, and co incidentally we attended a ' Jimmys Jaunt ' sponsored walk, we thankfully escaped unscathed
What a shame he died before being punished and humiliated.
It makes me cringe to think that as a kid, Jim'll Fix It was one of my favourite programmes.
Christ how the hell did the BBC let this go on for years?
6:40 = Massively disappointed in Chewbacca for not giving Savile a very hard THUMP!
bloody hell man watched 3 minutes a cant watch no more yak . we where so blind back then
Stop paying the bbc tv licence fee.
I agree with this why should we pay the license for a load of sick pervs there all at it bet there more to come out ?...
Stop voting Tory 'cause Thatcher enabled him!
If he was still alive, & hadn't died, I don't think he would have gone to prison, but the 💩 about them only comes out when they are dead,
No, anyone can make a mountain out of a molehill, if that is what you want to do. Why would you want to do that? Examine your own mind.
AS A THING IS VIEWED - SO IT APPEARS.
...Wot?
Every frame of this video is shocking.
Can't believe this peace of shite is on here sorry i turned it off
Piece not peace
Yeah, but it's evidence, isn't it?
What a complete idiot, 'she's my girlfriend, I think I have add a girlfriend to my collection'. He was the lowest bottom feeder around and sadly his friends are still here.
Sick!!! Yet people just clapped and laughed. Evil man.
One dirty horrible Nonce 🤬🤬🤬 and how many people behind the scenes just watching knowing exactly what he was
Insane. How TF did he get away it ? This really is in plain sight. What we know hopefully no ove like this creatin will ever be repeated. SCUM
If women did this to little boys, it would be been deemed weird. The maltreatment of women/girls is only just being witnessed.
And it's still happening now
Always knew that something wasn't right with that weirdo, just because of his hair
The fact this man escaped judgment is inexcusable. It's cases of this level of pure evil I truly believe hell exists and that Satan gives ol' Savile the judgement he so rightfully deserves
When you were young you couldnt see anything.As an adult watching now its crystal.He got away because he was trusted.For all those who protected him may you all suffer in damnation.
Hate to say it.but would rather have Jimmy and Rolf back than starmer and the state of the once beautiful Great Britain as it is today.
And I thought Dan Schneider was bad with his "foot" fetish.
Never liked him he just creeped me out!😫, these noncesters flock around these kids like flies round shite!🤢🤮