The Fall Interview on The Tube (C4) 1985

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  • Muriel Gray interviewing Mark E Smith and Brix Smith of The Fall on Channel 4's music programme The Tube on November 8th 1985. Gray asks How long can the Fall keep going...well, over 30 years later, they are still going!
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  • @sacha6530
    @sacha6530 11 місяців тому +4

    “Hit The North” got me into The Fall. I still play it loudly today

  • @saturnsabyss
    @saturnsabyss 8 місяців тому +7

    Brix was a great addition to the band. Her fashion sense and sanguine temperament are completely unexpected but welcome.

  • @Mikeystar1969
    @Mikeystar1969 5 місяців тому +4

    One of Mark’s best interviews and with decent questions for once.

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 2 роки тому +28

    Brix was a stunner

  • @sydbarrett5
    @sydbarrett5 2 роки тому +30

    My Grandma used to play bongos in that band.

    • @indigo9336
      @indigo9336 Рік тому +2

      One of their best eras

    • @anthonymitchell8893
      @anthonymitchell8893 Рік тому +2

      how could it be big dog my sister was the sole bingo player for them 1978/1994 she still has not been payed her f-------g royalties stop telling big ones please

  • @Harpdashian
    @Harpdashian 5 років тому +52

    I only discovered The Fall a week before MES died (I have a weird habbit of finding new people then them dying) but this band has had such a massive effect on me. Pure Genius.

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 2 роки тому +9

      So, - it was your fault?

    • @papermallard
      @papermallard 2 роки тому +4

      you should find out about Paul Mccartney trhen

    • @Nosferatu88
      @Nosferatu88 2 роки тому +2

      I knew them from before but they seemed disturbing to me. Over time I realized that it was a matter of maturation. The best things in life are never easy to digest, otherwise we should be suspicious

    • @Harpdashian
      @Harpdashian 2 роки тому +3

      @@Nosferatu88 I agree 100%. I was 15 at the time and am happy that they clicked instantly with me and I have listened to them pretty much every day since

    • @eugenemclemmont4045
      @eugenemclemmont4045 2 роки тому

      @@papermallard have you heard Phil Collins, you beat me to it. oh yes and Cliff Richard although he doesn`t pester us so much nowadays.

  • @candymoan
    @candymoan 6 років тому +116

    "It'd be a sad day when The Fall packed up."
    yes, it is mate.
    yes
    it
    is.

    • @pudboy123456
      @pudboy123456 6 років тому

      sorry candymoan mate - just said what you said. guess its an easy comment to make though.

    • @jimmygray4072
      @jimmygray4072 3 роки тому

      over 60 albums to have your pick and remember them by mate

    • @phillmaf7319
      @phillmaf7319 2 роки тому +2

      They are far from dead ,nearly every multi layer d lyric and riff are laind ten times thicker than Campbell s condensed soup.
      The bougasi are only learning to decipher this ancient gutteral form ,like archeologists deciphering heiroglythics from Fredrick road to Telow lane and the spent roaches in the lanes of Simister.

    • @slyasleep
      @slyasleep 2 роки тому

      @@phillmaf7319 You have learnéd well.

  • @Deedee-ee1sg
    @Deedee-ee1sg 2 роки тому +11

    Good to know that as a Fall fan I'm the salt of the earth! Great, unique and original band. R.I.P MARK E SMITH.

  • @dougie1968
    @dougie1968 2 роки тому +13

    Brix Smith was clearly captivated by The Fall and made it her raison d'etre to be a part of it. And she's right. The Fall are a one off because they were the most unique band in the world. Mark was a very lucky man.

    • @Talentedtadpole
      @Talentedtadpole Рік тому +3

      Brix was part of one of their best eras. Love what she brought to the music.

    • @db0800
      @db0800 Рік тому +1

      Lucky to pull her she's stunning.

  • @MrMHughes68
    @MrMHughes68 Рік тому +3

    I was at the Hammersmith gig that Brix mentions. They were phenomenal.

  • @p.a.lionski4407
    @p.a.lionski4407 Рік тому +1

    The first song I heard from "The Fall" was 1987 with "new big prince" They played great songs! Today (03.02.2023)I found out that you left too soon Mark E .Smith (05.03.57- 24.01.18) my condolences ... r.i.p. 🙏 😢

  • @DungeonStudio
    @DungeonStudio 6 років тому +10

    Mark never wanted The Fall to have a 'hit song', they were all hits way ahead of their time. And now Mark has Hit The North for good now. :(

  • @Philliben1991
    @Philliben1991 2 роки тому +8

    Brix is so sweet. Opposites attract and all that!

  • @thewholecity
    @thewholecity 2 роки тому +7

    Fucking hell. The only man who could stun Glastonbury in piss soaked flannels and still rock the shit out of it. What a total legend.

    • @chriswareham1547
      @chriswareham1547 2 роки тому +7

      It was actually a spilt drink from an incident back stage - but the fact he couldn't be arsed to change his kecks before a concert in front of what was probably his biggest audience ever is pure quality!

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Рік тому

      I always thought The Fall were curators of punk - _always different, always the same_

  • @lumpyfishgravy
    @lumpyfishgravy 3 роки тому +4

    The Tube came towards the end of my teenage years, when life was getting too busy for TV. Still bloody good.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 2 роки тому +1

      All the episodes are now on UA-cam. I've set up a playlist of them on my channel if you're interested.

  • @marguskiis7711
    @marguskiis7711 Рік тому +9

    The days when Mark was able to talk normally

  • @slyasleep
    @slyasleep 2 роки тому +2

    „accessibility was something to be spat on“ The Fall were often very catchy for all that.

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 Рік тому +1

    Whenever I listen to mes talk, I feel like making music again

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 6 років тому +28

    Surprised Mark could deal with that accent of Brix.This was them at their peak 1985.Genius. RIP Mark.

  • @jfochoaster
    @jfochoaster 4 роки тому +7

    Brix is too beatiful

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum 2 роки тому +2

      She's literally painted her face on like a canvas. She could look like someone completely different for all you'd know.

  • @bryanjames5175
    @bryanjames5175 6 років тому +43

    R.I.P. Mark E Smith
    A maverick who was cooler then penguins piss

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 6 років тому +11

    Fair well on your next journey Mark. Thanks for being and thanks for dying, I would have never found your music if it wasn't for that combo.

  • @POET444
    @POET444 Рік тому +3

    MES & William S. Burroughs had a great deal in common...... both were not bothered by adulation & just got on with what they did despite being both hounded and ridiculed because of their persistence & singular vision ..... as it was with Blake ....hindsight is a wonderful thing

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup Рік тому +1

    Life is all memory

  • @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322
    @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322 5 років тому +3

    Ah,the Mighty Fall.Memories.

  • @jamesgilmore731
    @jamesgilmore731 3 місяці тому

    Mark E is so respectful, seriously answering the interviewer's idiotic questions.

  • @jimmygray4072
    @jimmygray4072 3 роки тому +7

    mark ended up marrying his fan club manager, seen the fall half a dozen times from 1979 to 1985 always supporting Stiff Little Fingers

    • @eamonwright7488
      @eamonwright7488 Рік тому

      Two bands that were miles apart from their "competition" imo

  • @robhavock9434
    @robhavock9434 Рік тому +1

    I remember listening to the John Peel broadcast in the late 80,s on a small radio, I would walk down to the Barbican Plymouth in the evening in summer time and look at Robert Lenkiwicz paintings, I only recently looked into the Fall , I wonder if the John Peel recordings still exists, they were mind blowing.

  • @nickburlton5821
    @nickburlton5821 6 років тому +31

    Forgot how articulate he could be!

    • @RJMc819
      @RJMc819 6 років тому +3

      So did I. I'm reading a book about 'em atm, and he just seems to say "cock" a lot :D

    • @RJMc819
      @RJMc819 6 років тому +1

      But yeah, he's excellent in this interview. Really makes his point.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 4 роки тому +3

      Nick Burlton
      And sadly he became a blabbering pisshead.

    • @lumpyfishgravy
      @lumpyfishgravy 3 роки тому +2

      It's a fair point. In his latter days he sounded like Joe Biden.

    • @maryryan9464
      @maryryan9464 2 роки тому

      @@hyena131 I don't believe you b much different 60 albums in either

  • @holgerzimmer6884
    @holgerzimmer6884 3 роки тому +5

    salt of the earth. RIP MES

    • @finnkdy
      @finnkdy 2 роки тому

      To quite a few twas Honey.
      Moi aussi.

  • @greva2904
    @greva2904 Рік тому +2

    The Fred Dibnah of rock n roll!

  • @slyasleep
    @slyasleep 2 роки тому +2

    I wish I felt as indifferent to other people‘s affection as Mark E Smith

  • @paddycampbell576
    @paddycampbell576 6 років тому +8

    Brix and Muriel looked like they liked each other 😱

  • @deemdoubleu
    @deemdoubleu 2 роки тому +3

    I used to work with a guy who was in the Fall (really it's true) but apparently so have 100,000,000 other people

  • @johnperiard9594
    @johnperiard9594 2 роки тому +12

    Buyin what Brix is sellin. One of the most beautiful women in rock.

  • @halloweenjack8683
    @halloweenjack8683 2 роки тому +2

    One day there will be a film made about you Mark- hope they can find a suitable actor 💙💙💙

  • @d_walsh
    @d_walsh 6 років тому +4

    RIP. m.E.s.

  • @terrypussypower
    @terrypussypower 6 років тому +17

    That sad day has finally arrived. Mark is no more, hence The Fall are no more. But The Fall existed! And the music is all still here!! And didn't Mark look cool!

  • @StarvedForTime
    @StarvedForTime 3 місяці тому

    "how long can it go on?" quite a while, Muriel. Quite a while.

  • @tostare
    @tostare 6 років тому +9

    MES at his most attractive, at this point, I think.

    • @Hwral
      @Hwral 3 роки тому +1

      His haircut never got better than this, I’ll give you that.

  • @simonhawkins7786
    @simonhawkins7786 6 років тому +21

    I forgot he was so handsome. Just yer granny on bongo's now. RIP The Fall.

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Рік тому

      From the (literal) ashes of The Fall should come the band 'Your Granny on Bongos' , maybe Brix could carry it off

  • @nottavictim5
    @nottavictim5 Рік тому +2

    They do owe a debt of gratitude to Cap’n Beefheart tho

  • @billytoffingham9608
    @billytoffingham9608 2 роки тому +5

    How can this man be dust ?

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 роки тому

      Because he took lots and lots of drugs. That'll do it for you.

    • @TheVideoLounge
      @TheVideoLounge Рік тому

      And drank copious amounts, as well as chain smoking. Works a treat.

  • @michaelonell4248
    @michaelonell4248 2 роки тому +1

    Saturday night in Lancaster !!!!!

  • @troygaspard6732
    @troygaspard6732 2 роки тому

    What a condescending question. My favorite bands in the 80's were never on the radio.

  • @joannedw1
    @joannedw1 6 років тому +3

    Who did the bloody subtitles!!! Get them right for god sake.

  • @thomasminarchickjr.7355
    @thomasminarchickjr.7355 5 років тому +13

    It’s strange to me that of the few people in his lifetime that he could stand, let alone really like, was a valley girl “Brix”. Odd couple indeed

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 3 роки тому +16

      Nah, they weren't odd at all. Mark saw in Brix a creative energy that could take The Fall into a more accessible vein, and he was right!
      The Brix years were the most commercially successful era for The Fall.

    • @Rfk1966
      @Rfk1966 3 роки тому +8

      @@terrypussypower She deserves a lot of credit for bring some melodies to the songs and not trying to affect a British accent like Madonna

  • @GriefTourist
    @GriefTourist 2 роки тому +1

    LA to Prestwich

  • @darylcumming7119
    @darylcumming7119 2 роки тому

    A time capsule?

  • @abigailweir7287
    @abigailweir7287 Місяць тому

    Brix is beautiful and Mark is handsome.

  • @chancesareshewears
    @chancesareshewears Рік тому

    Brix channeling Michael from Gene Loves Jezebel..even the mole...

  • @tcm8119
    @tcm8119 2 роки тому

    Oh but I did have a wee crush on Brix in 1985 ...

  • @phillmaf7319
    @phillmaf7319 2 роки тому +1

    Original best of the rest,never sold ,eternal red brick performance art.
    Before the days of the net the Fall were already talking about masonry,jimmy saville etc..( big new prince? Check the record)..Mes es appearance in 24 hour party people was the peak of his acting career. Even he knew Tony Wilson was a bunt so ,as always ,despite the Manchester Music hype n shite he stood aloof.
    The hall are the epitome of not selling your creative ass,look how rich they all got! These days Salford University would give em all honorary doctorates to bleed off the integrity, like they did to Site Dr. John Cooper Clark e. In their earlier times they would be arrested by security if they ever set their working class feet on the premises.

  • @anthonymcneil1542
    @anthonymcneil1542 2 роки тому +1

    Like a cross between Noel Gallagher and Jarvis Cocker

  • @discoverydavid
    @discoverydavid 2 роки тому

    I can't remember the interviewers name, Gloria Huniford or something, I think she fancied herself as a serious NME/Melody Maker muzo journalist but always ended up sounding like your Mum readng your end of term school report card.

    • @soundhead6971
      @soundhead6971 2 роки тому +1

      I think her name is Muriel gray ? A kind of bargain basement Paula Yates!

  • @angelocatapang6054
    @angelocatapang6054 6 років тому +2

    mr and mrs smith.indeed.

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 6 років тому +7

      Coolest couple ever. And Brix was looking smoking hot here. Damn.

    • @Anony_mutt
      @Anony_mutt 4 роки тому +1

      @@bluestate69 she still looks pretty good working with Gok Kwan now 🤔💞

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 4 роки тому +4

      @@Anony_mutt she's kind of taken the torch since Mark E Smith's death. She's a talented lady.

    • @Anony_mutt
      @Anony_mutt 4 роки тому +1

      @@bluestate69 yes totally agree👍
      She was understandably insecure in Marks company...I think I would have been too🤔💞

    • @bluestate69
      @bluestate69 4 роки тому +2

      @@Anony_mutt wait, i thought Gok was some musician i didn't know about! i didn't know she was doing fashion! actually, i think its always been an interest of hers? but i was also speaking of "Brix and the Extricated", where she has reunited old Fall members. i just love her story though. an American who was blown away by English punk bands, so much that she moved to England and ended up JOINING one of the best punk/post punk bands of all time. AND she wrote songs!

  • @user-oo8xp2rf1k
    @user-oo8xp2rf1k 2 роки тому

    Point one YES
    Point two YES
    Point three YES
    Point four YES!

  • @pudboy123456
    @pudboy123456 6 років тому +1

    despite all the pretentious meaningless bollocks - he was right. it is a sad day the fall broke up. RIP Mark. only just found your music and its shite I will never see one of the lineups live :-(

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 3 роки тому

      Don't worry mate, you didn't miss much. , They were crap live.
      Only kidding!! They were AMAZING live! Especially back in the two drummers plus Steve Hanley, Marc Riley and Craig Scanlon era!!
      I was lucky enough to see them many times from '79 onwards, and that "Slates/Hex Enduction Hour" line up were killer live.
      You should do yourself a favour and get bass player Steve Hanley's book "The Big Weekend: Life Inside The Fall" where he goes into the history of the band from when he joined in 1979 to when he left in '96.

    • @bezenby9804
      @bezenby9804 Рік тому

      @@terrypussypower "The Big Midweek" it's called, but you're right - it's a great book.

  • @DutchVanHelsing
    @DutchVanHelsing 6 років тому

    She fixed her teeth here ??

  • @simonmaskell365
    @simonmaskell365 Рік тому

    Paula Yates was away cos she had a Baby. Murial Gray was OK.

    • @cquilty1
      @cquilty1 Рік тому

      muriel gray was a mirror shattering shitt stain foisted upon us as someone somewhere thought it had some kind of 'youth' appeal. paula yates not a whole lot better.

  • @tonyoutdoors9369
    @tonyoutdoors9369 2 роки тому +1

    mark wasnt punk mark was mark and he didnt follow or belong to nothing the fall followers will get this

  • @paddyskate
    @paddyskate 2 роки тому +1

    Lots of face touching and neck scratching going on here

  • @southerner4566
    @southerner4566 6 років тому +7

    "I always throw all my fan mail away and don't even read it", That just about sums up Mark E Smith - TWAT !

    • @gdzb
      @gdzb 3 роки тому +7

      Ahh, did he not reply to you?

    • @paularrowsmith9376
      @paularrowsmith9376 Рік тому

      It was his to do as he liked, good on him ,you obviously loved swap shop

  • @sexobscura
    @sexobscura 6 років тому +3

    he is just parroting things his idol Morrissey had already uttered

  • @dickhead5964
    @dickhead5964 6 років тому +1

    One of these guests was interesting and intruiging,
    The other had absolutely fuck all to say about anything, an empty can.
    You do the math.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 роки тому +3

      MathS

    • @anthonymitchell8893
      @anthonymitchell8893 Рік тому

      @@th8257 mathematics loves asthmatics and plasmatics Wendy o Williams was a lean queen what ? do you want some gritty northern knuckle ?? cause if you do I will oblige anytime any f-------g where bigdog

  • @stevepearn930
    @stevepearn930 2 роки тому

    signing to Beggars Banquet ruined The Fall -
    turned them into your average rock band

  • @Strimbles
    @Strimbles Рік тому

    I do NOT like this interviewer lady!

  • @hyena131
    @hyena131 6 років тому +5

    He's so damn boring and says nothing of substance. Tedious little control freak.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 років тому +1

      Aren't we all, mr Hyena, lol.

    • @Anony_mutt
      @Anony_mutt 4 роки тому +3

      ...even a genius can seem crazy to a fool 🤔

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 4 роки тому +2

      @@neilwilson5785
      No, not really.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 4 роки тому

      @anal emo
      Can't wait for your copy and paste September calendar quote. Hopefully it'll be 2022.

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 3 роки тому +8

      He was certainly a control freak, but "tedious"??
      I don't think so!!
      "Tedious" was the very LAST thing Mark Smith was!!
      Tedious people don't create bands like The Fall....One of the greatest groups that ever existed.

  • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
    @malcolmscrawdyke1868 5 років тому

    Bad band. Quite boring.

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 5 років тому +10

      Go on give us a laugh, what's a good one?

    • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
      @malcolmscrawdyke1868 5 років тому

      @@yknat216 U2

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 5 років тому +1

      @@malcolmscrawdyke1868 did you ever hear/see Virgin Prunes, used to knock about with Bono's crew in their youth, they played M/C once with The Fall, far cry from U2 though

    • @malcolmscrawdyke1868
      @malcolmscrawdyke1868 5 років тому +3

      @@yknat216 Even though Im not a Fall head I have been reading The Big Midweek Life Inside The Fall by Steve Hanley (I like music books, don't care who the band is). About half way now. He mentions meeting the Virgin Prunes and they tease them about the success of their old mates U2 (who Im not really a fan of). Funny.

    • @yknat216
      @yknat216 5 років тому

      @@malcolmscrawdyke1868 he he, yeah good read the Steve Hanley book, as is the Brix one, halfway through the Mark Smith one at the moment.

  • @paulbradley705
    @paulbradley705 Рік тому

    I love artificial,lovely ,funny Brix and sharing adul t net.