Just saw this holster company sponsor a video on Active Self Protection, so I checked out their website then came back to UA-cam to watch reviews. Yours was the first I watched, and it was very informative and well-done. I'm thinking about buying one of these or their appendix ones.
'Nice to watch a detailed, honest holster review that doesn't have someone claiming the holster is so good, they "don't even know the gun is there," which is complete BS in any wearing position.
Great Review... Onto my 2nd Black Arch, got the full (double clip) for the 1st one (Canik TP9SF Elite) been comfortably carrying that one for a couple months (pretty sizable pistol too)... Decided to get the single clip version for my 2nd (CZ75B) , hopefully that gives me the ability to mix and match single clip set up or double clip set up for either pistol. Again, nice review and thanks for posting the Disount code!
@@werunguns Oh man, the SFX I got is the BEST shooting pistol I own, liked it so much I got the more concealable SF Elite, it shoots great too, but the SFX is off the charts for accuracy and fun factor. The SF Elite: Damn near perfect for a carry version of the series. Thanks! I'm digging these Black Arch holsters.
Great review! I picked up a Protos-M for my Beretta PX4 Inox Compact and LOVE IT! As for the price... I honestly feel like I got what I paid for - EXCELLENT craftsmanship/quality and amazing, all-day comfort. I was initially looking at Stealthgear, but I'm so glad I took a chance on Black Arch :) . I really like the 3/4 wrap kydex shell (awesome, custom retention), and I also appreciate the option to convert between IWB (2-clip), AIWB/IWB (1-clip), & OWB.
I agree it's not a cheap holster and what you are getting is quality. The 3/4 wrap is an excellent idea and works really well. Have you picked up any accessories to convert it to another style holster? I'd be curious to see how well it works
Not yet. I knew they were working on a single-clip AIWB/IWB backer that included the Dri-Matrix feature (love it), so I waited. It's out now, so I'll be picking it up in September with the optional wide clip offered on their accessories page :) ...can't wait!
@@JRN5.0 Can't wait to get your thoughts on the PROTOS-M, after you've had a chance to try it out a bit. You're going to love it! :) BTW... you should join us in the Facebook group: "Beretta PX4 Storm Owners". It's a great group with a lot of experience/knowledge sharing; plus, Ernest and/or Aimee Langdon will chime in from time-to-time. Many members own multiple PX4 (and other Beretta's &/or DA/SA's) and at least one of the admins has put over 52,000 rounds through his full-size PX4 .45 ACP. Good stuff!
I have an IWB dual clip holster my Mod. 2 from back when they were still called SHTF Gear. I wish they still made a simple holster like that. These look really nice though.
Update: Just got it and it’s amazing. Only complaint is the smell because of the fresh cut leather. Can’t beat these holsters handmade to order though!
I had the same issues carrying at 3 o'clock with other holsters as well. I'm a skinny guy. This holster is perfect for 3 o'clock for me as well with my new hellcat. I got mine for 69.99
LMAO oficial FBI test haaaa. Love my black arch holsters. Have two now. One for over 2 years use with 0 issues and I do lawn and ladscape so im not easy on them. I choose the ace dri matrix as the protos M doesent conceal quite as well. Not a big difference but def noticable.
The 3'0 position actually muzzles your femoral artery. So in terms of your AIWB example, its not entirely accurate. I just bought this holster and wish i would have used your code. I didn't want to get aiwb specific holster because im not sure i will end up appendix carrying or not. I prefer the 3.5 position so far. Thanks for the review.
Wow, a year ago i made this comment. Now im appendix carrying and this holster just aint it. The quality is top notch. But it prints just way damn too much. I carry a g26 and even that just pokes out way too much. They ned to add a modwing. I emailed them telling them as much.
Does tightening our belt increase the retention? One of the things I've had against hybrid holsters is that if you get the retention adjusted so that the gun can't be shaken out when turned upside down, after you put it on and tighten the belt it gets even tighter and you end up pulling your pants up an inch or two when drawing. Does this do the same?
Ok thx. Thorough. Like & subscribed. T-shirt’s nice too. Those restocking fees can get you. Some companies small print that part. Thx again. Owb done right works more than some would expect but a 365xl..I got to see if it will work strong side.
Tbh I wish they made it without all the padding for minimal bulk. I know it’s comfortable, but I carry completely kydex. Can’t be that bad having just leather.
Looks like a good holster and has the advantage of carrying an extra mag. On the flip side, it's pointed in a dangerous area. I've carried appendix for many years and don't mind it, but you have to be careful. It actually looks similar to the Spider Concealment holster review I did ua-cam.com/video/Oza84EoyWf4/v-deo.html
I bought this for my g43 after watching this video, but for me the screws that hold the belts clips had a tendency to really dig into my hip/leg. Did you have that issue as well?
How are the edges on the shell? Had an alien gear and the shells edges were rough and would cut your hand so I switched to a Stealth gear the edges are smooth on the shell of the stealth gear.
Do you think the protos m single clip with would be just as good appendix carry then a full kydex with a mod wing? Also being that the single clip version doesn’t have the ace matrix breathable backer how well do you think it would hold up in high humid from Texas. I also sweat a lot so I’m concerned for hot spots.
The single clip Protos-M does have the Dri-Matrix backing as the dual clip does. Blackarch recommends the single clip version for appendix all the way to the 3 o'clock position
Igor Meneses Igor Meneses it does have mess backing on the back but not the matrix ace front breathable ventilation on the front. It’s like that since they don’t want moisture getting to the firearm so they only put it around the holster. So it doesn’t breath as well as the double clip. I’m trying to inquire how much of a difference that makes for the breathability.
I would personally get a quality holster that is comfortable. I have been very happy with Black Arch so far although there are also other brands to choose from. This is the best hybrid style holster I’ve tried
FishingFairbanks: The PROTOS-M line of holsters is compatible with an entire line of Protos-M® Backers. Shells can easily be moved from one backer to another, allowing your carry method to change as your needs change: from IWB (2-clip, above) > to AIWB/IWB (singe-clip) > to OWB.
Cheefus Smith except you won’t have to draw in a fast manner under stress when it’s in the safe. Definitely not the same thing. But I understand what you’re saying.
It’s not so much carrying in the appendix position that creates an issue, it’s drawing/reholstering that increases the penalty should an individual make a mistake.
Trust me. You will not regret it. If they charged $300 for a holster I would still buy it. It’s THAT good. You will never even bother to use another brand for the rest of your life.
@@thomasmorris3780 I found one in their returns section for my PPQ. Not my preferred color combo, but it was $10 cheaper. That, plus a 10% off coupon, brought the price down to $75. It arrived today and you're right, it is extremely comfortable. I may need to send back my Vedder.
Finally a review that shows how in looks on the waist
These are all I buy. They just nailed comfort and durability with quality customer service.
Just saw this holster company sponsor a video on Active Self Protection, so I checked out their website then came back to UA-cam to watch reviews.
Yours was the first I watched, and it was very informative and well-done.
I'm thinking about buying one of these or their appendix ones.
Walter Bryan I appreciate the feedback
Have you tried carrying this holster appendix carry at all? Wondering how comfortable it is at that position.
'Nice to watch a detailed, honest holster review that doesn't have someone claiming the holster is so good, they "don't even know the gun is there," which is complete BS in any wearing position.
I saw those pillows behind you and just said "goddamn those are some nice pillows" out loud. I never thought I would say such words.
Hahaha thanks for watching
I respect you taking your time on the draw, it looked well-developed.
Great Review...
Onto my 2nd Black Arch, got the full (double clip) for the 1st one (Canik TP9SF Elite) been comfortably carrying that one for a couple months (pretty sizable pistol too)...
Decided to get the single clip version for my 2nd (CZ75B) , hopefully that gives me the ability to mix and match single clip set up or double clip set up for either pistol.
Again, nice review and thanks for posting the Disount code!
Nice! How do you like the Canik TP9SF? I'd love to check one out some day. NP, thanks for watching!
@@werunguns
Oh man, the SFX I got is the BEST shooting pistol I own, liked it so much I got the more concealable SF Elite, it shoots great too, but the SFX is off the charts for accuracy and fun factor. The SF Elite: Damn near perfect for a carry version of the series. Thanks! I'm digging these Black Arch holsters.
Great review! I picked up a Protos-M for my Beretta PX4 Inox Compact and LOVE IT! As for the price... I honestly feel like I got what I paid for - EXCELLENT craftsmanship/quality and amazing, all-day comfort. I was initially looking at Stealthgear, but I'm so glad I took a chance on Black Arch :) . I really like the 3/4 wrap kydex shell (awesome, custom retention), and I also appreciate the option to convert between IWB (2-clip), AIWB/IWB (1-clip), & OWB.
I agree it's not a cheap holster and what you are getting is quality. The 3/4 wrap is an excellent idea and works really well. Have you picked up any accessories to convert it to another style holster? I'd be curious to see how well it works
Not yet. I knew they were working on a single-clip AIWB/IWB backer that included the Dri-Matrix feature (love it), so I waited. It's out now, so I'll be picking it up in September with the optional wide clip offered on their accessories page :) ...can't wait!
Sounds nice, perhaps I'll do the same some time in the future
I've done my research on what holster I'll be getting for my px4 storm and finally found that this will be the one I'm getting!
@@JRN5.0 Can't wait to get your thoughts on the PROTOS-M, after you've had a chance to try it out a bit. You're going to love it! :) BTW... you should join us in the Facebook group:
"Beretta PX4 Storm Owners". It's a great group with a lot of experience/knowledge sharing; plus, Ernest and/or Aimee Langdon will chime in from time-to-time. Many members own multiple PX4 (and other Beretta's &/or DA/SA's) and at least one of the admins has put over 52,000 rounds through his full-size PX4 .45 ACP. Good stuff!
You do the best vidios on u tube you covered everything. I totally agree no appendix carry. Great job
Thanks for watching!
I have an IWB dual clip holster my Mod. 2 from back when they were still called SHTF Gear.
I wish they still made a simple holster like that.
These look really nice though.
This vid sold me on the holster. I’m ordering one now
Update:
Just got it and it’s amazing. Only complaint is the smell because of the fresh cut leather. Can’t beat these holsters handmade to order though!
Daulton Hubbs how long did it take to come in?
Joel Munizzi About 5 days no time at all I was very impressedb
Daulton Hubbs wow awesome! are you caring 3-5 o’clock with this? Or appendix?
I had the same issues carrying at 3 o'clock with other holsters as well. I'm a skinny guy. This holster is perfect for 3 o'clock for me as well with my new hellcat.
I got mine for 69.99
Nice!!!
Great review! Love the FBI test! Lol
Haha thanks!
3:00 is the perfect spot
Depending on your body type, but yeah good spot
LMAO oficial FBI test haaaa. Love my black arch holsters. Have two now. One for over 2 years use with 0 issues and I do lawn and ladscape so im not easy on them. I choose the ace dri matrix as the protos M doesent conceal quite as well. Not a big difference but def noticable.
The 3'0 position actually muzzles your femoral artery. So in terms of your AIWB example, its not entirely accurate.
I just bought this holster and wish i would have used your code.
I didn't want to get aiwb specific holster because im not sure i will end up appendix carrying or not. I prefer the 3.5 position so far.
Thanks for the review.
Wow, a year ago i made this comment. Now im appendix carrying and this holster just aint it. The quality is top notch. But it prints just way damn too much. I carry a g26 and even that just pokes out way too much. They ned to add a modwing. I emailed them telling them as much.
I would definitely buy one, but they don’t have a light bearing option for my sig X macro
Excellent Review
I am going to visit the Black Arch holsters because of your review
Thanks
Thank you for the video review and it does not seem like the 10% discount code is valid any longer?
Thanks! Bought one today
Does tightening our belt increase the retention? One of the things I've had against hybrid holsters is that if you get the retention adjusted so that the gun can't be shaken out when turned upside down, after you put it on and tighten the belt it gets even tighter and you end up pulling your pants up an inch or two when drawing. Does this do the same?
No it doesn't pull up your pants the retention on these holsters are amazingly customizable Love mine
Ok thx. Thorough. Like & subscribed. T-shirt’s nice too. Those restocking fees can get you. Some companies small print that part. Thx again. Owb done right works more than some would expect but a 365xl..I got to see if it will work strong side.
Best video yet. Should pay u! Like it still? Single clip Mel? Thought s? Thx
Very good review
Quality holsters....I love them!!! They are beautiful and super comfortable
Tbh I wish they made it without all the padding for minimal bulk. I know it’s comfortable, but I carry completely kydex. Can’t be that bad having just leather.
They’ve since made a heritage version that is leather backed without the pad
I hope they have holsters that fit the olight pl mini attached. Thank you
Hmm I bet they do, contact them if you don't see it listed
I don’t see hexcam or any cool patterns on the website. Just the basic colors.
Nice holster! What do you think about the sidecar from T. rex arms? Seems to be getting a lot of hype lately
Looks like a good holster and has the advantage of carrying an extra mag. On the flip side, it's pointed in a dangerous area. I've carried appendix for many years and don't mind it, but you have to be careful. It actually looks similar to the Spider Concealment holster review I did ua-cam.com/video/Oza84EoyWf4/v-deo.html
I wonder if you could carry in this position with their single clip version, which I just ordered.
Groovy review 👍
Is that really 3 o’clock though?
Where can I get that shirt though?
FBI approval test 😂😂😂
great video and holster can’t wait to oder
I bought this for my g43 after watching this video, but for me the screws that hold the belts clips had a tendency to really dig into my hip/leg. Did you have that issue as well?
its scratches the gun over the time?
Id=s the sweat guard flexible (not good) or do they run Kydex up in sweatguard?
How are the edges on the shell? Had an alien gear and the shells edges were rough and would cut your hand so I switched to a Stealth gear the edges are smooth on the shell of the stealth gear.
Completely smooth, fit and finish on black arch products are top notch
That is a pretty nice design. LOL 😂 👍 on the bathroom
Thanks, and yeah a bad holster could be a nightmare...
Do you think the protos m single clip with would be just as good appendix carry then a full kydex with a mod wing?
Also being that the single clip version doesn’t have the ace matrix breathable backer how well do you think it would hold up in high humid from Texas. I also sweat a lot so I’m concerned for hot spots.
The single clip Protos-M does have the Dri-Matrix backing as the dual clip does. Blackarch recommends the single clip version for appendix all the way to the 3 o'clock position
Igor Meneses Igor Meneses it does have mess backing on the back but not the matrix ace front breathable ventilation on the front. It’s like that since they don’t want moisture getting to the firearm so they only put it around the holster.
So it doesn’t breath as well as the double clip.
I’m trying to inquire how much of a difference that makes for the breathability.
Where did you get those pillows though? One with a mp5 and one with a saw I think
Yeah that's right. I picked them up on eBay
Nice holster! What holster would you recommend for a EDC FS 1911?
I would personally get a quality holster that is comfortable. I have been very happy with Black Arch so far although there are also other brands to choose from. This is the best hybrid style holster I’ve tried
Cool shirt
Still works WRG-10 for 10% Discount
Glad to hear!
$115 now before the options...
LOVE that shirt!!! Hahahahahaha
Appendix carry works the best for me in all respects. As much as I love my Glocks, I carry a CZ-P07. Much safer.
I have that DeSantis holster and mine does not do any of that and mine is for a Glock also.
I just wasn't very happy with mine, but if yours functions better then lucky you!
We Run Guns yeah their kind of a cheapo holster compared to other options out there now.
What's better the black arch or alien gear
Literally what i typed in the search bar and i came across this lol
My experience with this holster has been excellent thus far. I don't know enough about alien gear to recommend.
Ppl are very happy with alien Gear but this is top notch
What about black arch vs crossbreed ?
What’s that slot on the outside of the holster for?
I'm not 100% sure to be honest, but it may be incase your gun/holster gets wet, to allow the water to escape and dry your gun.
We Run Guns it looks like their single clip holsters have the clip mounted there some how.
Yeah you’re probably right! For modularity purposes
Is this just a concealed holster or can you open carry with it?
FishingFairbanks I’d recommend this for concealed carry since it’s inside the waistband (IWB)
FishingFairbanks: The PROTOS-M line of holsters is compatible with an entire line of Protos-M® Backers. Shells can easily be moved from one backer to another, allowing your carry method to change as your needs change: from IWB (2-clip, above) > to AIWB/IWB (singe-clip) > to OWB.
Good review but That's not a 3 o'clock carry.
Thanks, what was it 4?
@@werunguns 2--230 lol
Does it scratch the gun?
Not in my experience
Looks bigger then necessary.
I think the size helps distribute the weight over a greater area
Yea but what about flexible.
My reproductive system isn't something I'm willing to destroy.
You’re not violating a safety rule carrying appendix any more than you are putting it in a safe and walking past it.
Cheefus Smith except you won’t have to draw in a fast manner under stress when it’s in the safe. Definitely not the same thing. But I understand what you’re saying.
It’s not so much carrying in the appendix position that creates an issue, it’s drawing/reholstering that increases the penalty should an individual make a mistake.
So one of the cons became a pro
To this day I'm still happy with it
I almost bought one, but I just couldn't justify $95 for a holster.
Trust me. You will not regret it. If they charged $300 for a holster I would still buy it. It’s THAT good. You will never even bother to use another brand for the rest of your life.
@@thomasmorris3780 I found one in their returns section for my PPQ. Not my preferred color combo, but it was $10 cheaper. That, plus a 10% off coupon, brought the price down to $75. It arrived today and you're right, it is extremely comfortable. I may need to send back my Vedder.