Yet they're able to spend at least as much while being hundreds of millions in debt. How anybody can think that City are so bad while believing what United are doing is perfectly acceptable beggars belief. You couldn't make it up, although in United's case you don't have to.
@ @severnsea First, you dont know how ffp for example, works. Second, United have way more fans compared to City, witch translates into money (unless you cheatvthat is.)
This is actually sickening , this completely discredited Man City football clubs existence as a legitimate football club. All titles don’t matter , and this team would never have been put together to even compete at high levels. It’s a shame…
So you're involved with Luton?? Ok, how did you do it?? How did you get to the Premier League! If you're just a Luton "fan" I'll be seriously pissed!!! 😡
CAS should be dissolved after there decision which favoured the cheats city the only good thing this time is there not involved in the latest FPP charges 😂
the camel jockeys will spend billions to find out any corruption the Premier League has had a hand in, they will use that to bury their wrongdoings and that will be that. Football is all about money now, we have lost it.
@@VaeVictis96 Don't know how many times I have to say this, but the only clueless morons on here are the ones who think that some two-bit video on YT is correct and factual - a video made by a production company that according to the official UK company database, doesn't even exist, quotes a "City director" that didn't even work for the club at the time, and just makes up some fairy tale. Clueless I get, but you have to be a moron to believe that UEFA are going to hand over important evidence from a private hearing to some nondescript prat who wants to make a clickbait video. But we don't give a toss, you just go on proving to everybody else how stupid you really are.
Why werent all 3 CAS arbitrators chosen independently?? This hearing was a complete joke. And wouldnt be surprised if all those 115 charges miraculously disappear because of a 'technicality'.
How strange this may come across to people not accustomed to legal procedures, it is actually a common procedure which appeared to hav been followed here by CAS. In various fields of law where disputes/cases are handled through arbitration the arbiters are selected in this manner. Both parties involved are allowed to select one arbiter, then those two arbiters select a third arbiter who presides the arbitration panel.
You really think the PL will punish City the Only British Team representing them in Europe, Let's wait and see, City will Win this115 chargers@@mymemories925
Why didn't UEFA turn up for the CAS case or appeal it if they actually had a case? Because they had nothing. The fact that you're all basing your hopes and prayers on a stolen email from a criminal who is behind bars just proves how bitter and desperate you all all.
The bent Premier League will have enough on their plate paying a sizeable 'backhander' to their chosen independent commission .... they need to get the decision they want without any 'hiccups' happening!
You realise the premier league is run by the 20 chaimen of the clubs? Most of them billionaires, that will be some back hander. Cause i'm pretty sure they'll want to fuck city over.
The football fans need to make sure they don't get off. Really think of how City's bullshit has negativity affected the game. Creating this sports washing, cheating environment, and most importantly how many teams they have effectively relegated, dumped from cup competitions, and flat out stolen from. It's not about the big clubs, it's about the rest that they've fucked over.
When you have a lot of money and power, nothing can stand in your way. There is no doubt both CASS & UEFA received hush money from the UAE. Because for something this serious all the sudden dropped and forgotten.
They were not stripped of the titles. They just became a new club. Their Dumbadol fans believe they have won 55 leagues in reality they have one 1 that was during the Pandemic. They r proud of that though. HH
Was that not the government going after rangers for tax avoidance more so than the footballinh authority. I still maintain rangers gettinh kicked out the league was the worst thing for celtic because theyd lost any form of competition in the domestic league.
Shame to all who were involved in this act of corruption and denial of justice. Football fans don't deserve this. Big up to the hacker btw, true football hero
Who are Notts Forest? I don't think the "best team" is decided just by how many CL trophies you have. You're claiming those two trophies outstrip everything City have won in the past decade or so? I think I'm correct in saying that City had won more than Forest overall even before the current owners took over. Most certainly have spent a lot more time in the top flight so what's your point exactly?
Doesn't show anything, they made it all up. You honesty think UEFA would have handed all those documents to some two-bit unknown internet production company that nobody has ever heard of? Wake up.
Im a Glasgow rangers supporter and we had to pay the price why should Manchester city be treated any differently nothing like double standards all because they can buy there way out the governing body needs to take a long look at their ways of doing things who will punish them its pathetic
Your club should hire the best possible lawyers and appeal all the punishments you received on the grounds that if man city are not guilty then neither are you! You're correct in saying what's good for one is good for all.
Get away with it… Do you mean if they are innocent it will no longer give bitter, jealous muppets a narrative to cling on to, due to city’s dominance and their own clubs shortcomings?
Not even their Allah will be able to save them , these are 115 different chargesheets, plus more will be brought for the period 2018 to 2022 for which investigations are underway , 150 different charges CANNOT ever be swept under the carpet , not even UEFA has the audacity to do that
Even with this, we're not even close. You know those bots on Twitter always promising guaranteed betting wins? Always the Latvian league. When you're fixing every game down to the result, you're making Serie A look like Sunday League.
Yes! I hope those in Man U that wants their club to be taken over by a human rights abusing nation, Qatar, reconsider. Chelsea went Russian and City Middle Eastern and in both cases fans now are putting their hard earned money into the pockets of no good people. Personally I do not want to see football clubs becoming battlefield for criminals and human rights abusing dictatorships that withhold workers, treated like slaves, passports with no legal rights. IF Man U are sold to Qatar I will instantly leave the Man U sites I use and never watch a Man U match ever again. I do not watch City nor Chelsea matches for same reasons. NO sport are more important than human rights and people being treated with dignity. I will not contribute one Pound to owners that at the same time have workers dying from dehydration and overwork in the baking sun without any legal rights. I am frankly beyond disgusted. The current incompetent US capitalists owning Man U now are one thing. Killers are another. No dictatorship football league ever for me! I have followed Man U for over 30 years but it might not last long if sold to the wrong people. NOT IN MY NAME!
I can remember my dad telling me about Peter Swan getting a lifetime ban in 1964 playing for Sheffield Wednesday, after he and 2 other players had made a bet on Wednesday losing a match. Modern day club revenue has rapidly increased since those days and along with that a steady increase in rule breaking. Corruption has been around a long time in football and morals fly out the window when there's a promise of a big paycheck
Spot on. Morals mean nothing when getting rich is put in front of someone. People forget how UEFA screwed over 40+ nations in Europe in 94-95 season and then again 2 years later. This has continued since then. UEFA gave England an automatic ticket to the Champions league fir the league champions, when their teams had failed to get past the qualifiers for the seasons previous. 2 years later, the runners-up were then invited to compete for the small handful of nations UEFA favoured just get rich. Morals were nowhere then and today we have elitist attitudes in a small group of nations. A financial and footballing lanscape that has destroyed European football for the last 30 years for 90% of Europes nations.
Tony Kay got a lifetime ban back in the 60's too didn't he? He would {I believe, from what I've been told by uncles} been a great player for us {Everton}
Anyone with any common sense can see city are bent they are an average club trying to be a big club but they don’t generate cash like United Liverpool Madrid Barcelona Bayern Munich .they are funding Peter to pay Paul under the same roof I new that from the start ✌️
So true 👍 in everything you said ,,hope corruption bk handers paid ,ueffa and fiffa ,and the uk 🇬🇧 FA read yr comment,,they have no shame just like some of the uk refrees who refree the games in dubia ,,which is owned by man city owners,,, bk handers say no more
What the fuck you would you know about common sense? Like most of the rest on here all you have to do is make a simple comparison: Compare them with a club who: - are almost a billion in debt - have won comparitively fuck all - have LOST countless hundreds of millions on players sales - have paid off various managers in recent years - have owners who are milking the club - are currently badly run on and off the field - have moved their registered office to a tax haven called Cayman Islands and yet have STILL managed to spend at least as much in recent years. now ask yourself, given these facts, which club should be investigated. Now tell me you have any common sense. Pillock.
The ONLY suitable punishment would be expulsion from the PL for a minimum of 5 years (and having to work their way up the leagues afterwards) and all parties involved to be banned from investing in football for life.
That would never happen though. Even a much more reasonable punishment would involve such levels of legal action that it would bankrupt UEFA. Abu Dhabi is richer than the sporting body.
@@rajeevpalthukral764 did you not read the context before flying off the handle? My comment was for OP suggesting an arbitrary punishment. Maybe I used the wrong body but the comment still stands.
City can go and form super league and shake hands with Saudi to kill European football. The punishment you want is not just unprecedented it’s unfair too. It’s more of an example of your hatred than anything of logic. And City owners will respond to that in the same way. The fair punishment would be points deduction. And that’s what I think is gonna happen.
I'm a lifelong City fan and was initially gutted when we were bought by an overseas entity that appeared to have no connection to Manchester, the team or even the country. But my view softened when they started to spend real money on the club, its facilities, the local area and on buying amazing players. Watching football played at the level that they've achieved has been an absolute joy. But if this is proven to be true I'm not sure if City would or should be allowed to come back from this as so many of our defining achievements are tainted....
The Scottish FA had the balls to relegate and punish Rangers and the Italian FA had the balls to relegate and punish Juventus. The FA and the Premier League - SPINELESS!
And unlike those two sides, none of the players, and hardly any of the fans will stick around after the hammer comes down. And that says all anyone needs to know about the legitimacy of the club.
Interestingly Juve were recently punished for the Danilo-Cancelo swap with City. Would be interesting to see what punishment comes City's way since they did the same creative accounting
This isn't actually about football. It's about countries using football to gain influence and power so they don't have to change their societies. Ultimately it's about having bargaining power, if the investment fund of another country is directly, or directly, employing thousands of people in another nation they don't have to listen or respond to international pressure.
That's the whole point....clubs can never compete if they can't invest money. The big 4 clubs who had the monopoly on all the euro cash never wanted anyone to encroach on their cartel.
@@PauleymackI mean they can though can’t they, Leipzig, Lille, Leicester, Brighton. There are lots of examples of clubs doing it legitimately. Fortunately for City FFP wasn’t a thing for the first few years so they could post £200m loss after £150m loss year after year. By the time of was brought in the owner had already ploughed in about a billion or more of his own money. Everyone wants competition, they just want fair competition and don’t eat a sugar Daddy going “you know what I’m gunna play football manager with Wolves, but the club, but then a stadium, double all their salaries, but the most expensive coach’s and best players and buy success because I can” That’s effectively what City have done and despite the advantages they already had they still cheated and tried to get around the rules put in place……….. I for one hope they are hit and hit hard and lose most of the titles they have and kicked down a few divisions like Juventus.
Football has always been corrupt, but with the money in the game now the scale has become obscene. I doubt City will be punished because the FA and Premier League are equally corrupt, and ultimately care for the bottom line, which is money. Kicking City out of the league will hurt the PL's revenue, not to mention damage the PL's reputation for allowing such large scale corruption to be carried out. An example needs to made, but I don't think they have the nerve to do it.
michael platini uefa president arrested for corruption.. this video appears...and attacks man city.. man city is not corrupt, they are not wrong and they use clean money not black money.. only they are too rich that some people want their money.. the problem is the city can't sue because they are a federation. does the law go one way. if the wrong club the club will get a sanction.. but what if the federation is wrong...?
Sweeping statement saying the PL and FA are corrupt, you’ll need to support that with some evidence…… That aside, the PL need to be careful, if Citeh, the Saudi’s and Qatari’s, continue with their financial domination and winning everything the PL will cease to be interesting…..they need to protect the product……
Look we all know City are going to be found guilty on a few of the charges and will be fined seventeen and a tanner by their standards and forgotten about a fortnight later. Money does not talk in football it ............SCREAMS.
And if they're not? Don't bother answering, you'll all just claim they paid everybody off. Funny how everything was fine before isn't it. Clubs like Russian owned Chelsea bought their way to the top and nobody bats an eyelid. Man United still have the highest wage bill and pay top money for total flops while being almost a billion in debt and paying hundreds of millions in interest payments alone, but nobody bats an eyelid. Get a grip.
Every game they win, every trophy they win is tarnished, because they got them by cheating , they even got a ground for almost nothing. . . . . . . .they have not had to work for anything, which sort of takes any glory away. . . .
Every work you type is tarnished because you are simply jumping to conclusions, given that you have no proof whatsoever of anything, just like everybody else on here. If you had any idea of the work that has gone on there you would be embarrassed at your comment, But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Pep also knows he's nothing as a coach without an endless supply of money. He can't win anywhere without owners with deeper pockets than the rest of the league.
OK smartarse, explain then, If it's that simple you should have some undisputable evidence. You haven't, have you? Nope, thought not. So like everybody else with no solid evidence, by making a definitive statement you cannot prove is true, all you are is somebody lying about others who you are accusing of lying. Absolute scum.
You will not get away with it. When they throw the book at you, a good number of trophy wins will be deleted and awarded elsewhere, Liverpool, Arsenal, Inter etc. I cannot wait.
we WILL get away with 'it' and us city fans will be laughing I'm your face. in fact we are laughing at you already. We earnt our trophies. I'd rather be in our position than yours
The number of solicitors is meaningless if the evidence is sound. The evidence was torn to pieces and proven in some cases to be outright deliberate fabrication.
@@HRHMANSOUR Incorrect, the evidence produced was not proven to be fabricated, it was just ignored in favour of the word of two of the Man City officials, who, it appears now, were lying. Inexplicably, UEFA decided not to appeal, when they had been advised to do so, because of concerns surrounding conflict of interest of the Chairman of the CAS panel, and a clear imbalance in the make up of the panel. I wish to point out that I am not suggesting any impropriety between UEFA and Man City, despite the head of UEFA being "entertained" at a Man City match, just 2 days before the CAS hearing.
6 months on, the Toffees have lost 10 points as a result of financial FairPlay breaches and it’s still crickets on Citeh’s criminal and fraudulent actions.
Everton admitted they had done something wrong. Obviously it takes a considerable amount of time to investigate over 100 charges, Everton's took 4 years by the way, but obviously nobody on here is interested in a fair and proper investigation because if you were you wouldn't even be questioning it.
The whole club should be re-investigated. I still find it fascinating that no one mentions the fact Pep Guardiola was done as a player for taking performance enhancing drugs (twice) but apparently it never merits a mention. If he found no problem doing this as a player then why would he see this as an issue when a coach???
He was cleared the second time and it was a trace amount which it has been proven could not possibly have made any difference to his performance levels. It was later discovered that changes in the World Anti-Doping Agency's guidelines were made because some athletes naturally generated a certain amount of nandrolone. This is now a well known, well established fact and many other players and other athletes have been caught out by this error, including Jaap Stam and Edgar Davids. But just like most other posters on here you have managed to find something and twist it to suit your agenda rather than tell the full story, which says more about your honestly than it does about Guardiola's. Very much different from George Best's known actual Class A drug taking, or Rio Ferdinand deliberately missing a drugs test and "disappearing" for a few days.
@@-A-lm5xb I was merely raising the point. The club needs to be investigated anyway. This is just an addendum. Which of the two times he tested positive are you talking about? They were (two weeks apart from each other) on 21 October and on 4 November 2001 the one after a match against Lazio in Rome, or the other one? Interesting also that he hired the same dodgy doctor when manager at Barcelona. Good to know he cleared his name, but continued taking the advice from the doctor with performance enhancing vitamins.
@@willdobson7351 There is no point to raise, I'm not entertaining it in any depth. it's just another slur that you lot are looking for, for no apparent reason other than you're dying to find City guilty because that suits your agenda. That's all this is about. If this had been Kelloggs, or Dulux or somebody breaking some financial trading rules nobody would give a toss. It's just jealousy, nothing more, nothing less.
@@-A-lm5xb you mention 'Ferdinand deliberately missing a drugs test and "disappearing" for a few days', so why don't we talk about Grealish's history of the same? He's never been properly treated for his functional addictions (note the plural), and is a ticking time-bomb as far as a serious relapse or OD goes. According to his health history and his 'absences with injury', he's about due for another incident. So good luck with him in the next couple of seasons🙃
What happened at Celtic is far far worse. A huge paedophille ring in operation for years with many convicted. The Scottish government ( SNP) has refused to do a full public inquiry into this , simply because it will probably result in the demise of the club , and it is their support who vote for the SNP. This would be the biggest scandal in SPORT , not just football, if an inquiry was done. The Uk government should force an inquiry or many involved will escape justice.
Football died when skysports came along,thats when all the money started to get pumped into the game.will city get stripped of titles No,can you imagine city get relegated then beat every prem side they come up against in cup games the league wouldnt want that so that wont happen,if they get found guilty they will get fine,transfer ban and maybe kicked out of Europe.
They wouldbt be relegated to one division they'd ne relegated to the lowest league the players they have now would leave they couldnt afford to keep thrm
Don't forget it was Alan sugar who was behind the deal for sky to get the rights to the new premier league at the time of the meeting the Everton chairman Philip carter got all the managers together in London to discuss it only liverpool and Manchester United refused to agree to the new league it was originally going to be a deal done between bbc and itv Alan sugar has openly admitted that when they stopped the meeting for a break he walked out of the meeting rang his freind at sky and told him about the deal that was getting done between bbc and itv and he told them offer more money and you will get the rights to the new premier league it was also in his autobiography that was serialised in the daily mirror a few years ago he talks also about his company amstad which is Alan Michael sugar trading if you remember the very first sky dishes had that name on it
It's NOT Skysports fault. They are a broadcaster who spent alot of £££ to win the rights of a very very popular league, who then make that money back and a profit from adverts and charging a subscription. They have nothing to do with the fraud. It's MCFC and CAS/TAS UEFA fault. Blaming Sky is just stupid
@@tanay_1604 I call them frauds cz already one of the allegations were already proven and were later on found guilty and later on appealed to get their fine reduced. I just don't do that for the clicks.
@@tanay_1604Why do City fans comes to conclusions and say City are not guilty. That main comment guy said if guilty then they should be relegated. Why do you don't want to agree that your club is made because of flow of money from Arab. But by saying this I don't say other clubs don't spend money. They do too and don't win. But Man city is made because of money.
@@jennydunn9014 Denial of what? The only people I see in denial on here is you lot. You all laughed in 2008, thought it was all a big joke. Not laughing any more are you?
The football we knew and loved is already dead. This is the era of clubs competing with each other to find ways to spend more and more money and build star studded squads year in year out.
@@alanbell9171that aspect may be the same, but the sheer amount of money has increased due to the fact that in footballing terms oil nations have unlimited wealth.
If a City can explain how City can all of sudden claim to bring in more revenue income than Real Madrid, and Manchester United, I'll be impressed. That's the thing that makes me believe the allegations are true because there is zero chance City's revenue's are as high as they claim.
@@thedean4431 That’s not enough to surpass United and Madrid in revenue. It’s not like Madrid haven’t been winning titles and CLs regularly. It makes zero sense that City’s revenue would be that insanely high.
'All of a sudden'? In case you haven't been keeping track, we have dominated English football - the most lucrative league in the world - since Agueroooo's golden boot sank the Rags in 2012. That's 11 years, if you can count.
@@stevengarside Yeah but you’re starting point was very low. You don’t surpass United and Real Madrid in just a decade. I don’t believe it personally mate. They’re up to something fishy.
@thedean last season liverpool earned more money than mam city on the pitch due to coming 2nd in the league, champions league final, winning fa cup and carabo cup but man city books still said they generated more revenue than liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Liverpool have fans all over tbe world. Literally! Sell millions kore shirts and had more tv rights. So you are talking nonsense there
Don't answer what? The club have already said that they have given the PL a ton of information. You can't give them information that doesn't exist. The PL brought the charges so it's up to the PL to prove their case, not for City to prove otherwise. If you're arrested the police have to prove you are guilty, not the other way around. Or would you rather go back to the dark ages when you are thrown in jail just because somebody says you are guilty? The number of people stating this claim on here is disgusting given that not a single shred of confirmed evidence exists.
Oh it will dont worry. Just as with the uefa case they won't prove jack shit. Bit of an uphill struggle to prove 10 years of accounts are false an that independent auditors like deloittes an others were part of a huge conspiracy.....
I doubt any group will have the balls to do what should be done. Stripped of their trophies this season and sanctioned from the Premier League?? Nobody would do that. It would take morals and honour.
That's exactly how most of us feel. To be honest, the Premier League and UEFA are so corrupt that as a fan you kind of want your team to cheat now, because it's so highly encouraged by the officials of the sport. It's always been a disgrace to fine clubs who are actively breaching financial rules when they know they have a bottomless pit of cash. (Not just man city this has happened to regularly) I'd love to see football get highly regulated.. Not anything outside football, just football. The whole thing is a cesspit.
Watching this for the first time, after City sued the EPL, and waiting for that outcome. Rationally you'd think they were obviously guilty, but I have a feeling they'll win 😂
The biggest scandal in European Football. If City are allowed to continue to cheat then it totally devalues all competitions. The fact that they are cheating and hiding the fact, totally corrupt.
if Guardiola wants us to believe that he knows nothing and would walk out of the door if they were guilty, why doesn't he tell the board to present their case immediately rather than wait till they can get their stories together. if they have nothing to hide go to court right now.
What's really sad is that true football fans would go and watch their team no matter how much money was in the game. There is no need for this corruption. I am saying that based on the fact I grew up watching the side my father took me to, because this was our local side. It was, in fact, CAFC, but there were and are plenty of teams below, even their level. The point is, it's about watching the team you love. We all have hopes and dreams, but you like to see the youth that comes through the academy, and it really is irrelevant about money at that point. Facilities might make a difference, but George Best was as poor as most poor players could be. This didn't make or break his ability. Talent isn't created by wealth.
@severnsea I assume you are just being amusing. I could write a whole long reply if I thought you were being sarcastic or ironic or whatever. You see, the thing is, I was talking about football. If I were looking for role models, I would possibly have looked at my own parents or perhaps used someone famous; Peter Ustinov, for example. The thing is, role models is just a term that is bandied about in the modern era and not something that occurred to me back then. If it had of done, I doubt very much that I would have chosen a football player, unless, of course, I was looking for a role model to learn football from. Which oddly enough takes me back to George Best or Jimmy Greaves. How to be the greatest player or greatest goal scorer? A pity drink controlled both of them, but things were different then.
@@neil364 Or in short, that doesn't suit your argument so you've dismissed it as irrelevant. The fact remains that you named him, you can't simply cherry pick which points you think are laudable and ignore the rest.
@-A-lm5xb can you explain in a proper argument what point you are actually on about? I was referencing corruption in football in the original argument, and happened to mention the greatest football player these islands have ever produced, as an example of football having f all to do with money, when it came to footballing talent. For my argument to try and be diminished by George Bests personal life was, and is, a complete irrelevance. Please explain what you are on about by cherry-picking unless you are just making no point, for no points sake?
@@neil364 Seems to me you re the one making no point for no point's sake. WTF dues George Best got to do with any of this? The guy is right, it's people like him that started to give the game a bad name in the first place. No great surprise given who he played for, but it has little, if anything to do with this discussion. All you said initially was "there is no need for this corruption" but nobody has a clue what you're talking about. The only thing we know about City is they have been charged, no verdict has been made and they were cleared by UEFA of the charges that the PL are basing most of their case on, so what exactly are you talking about?
I love football and I don’t mind that there will always be better teams than my own. But I can’t stand cheating, on the pitch, or it would appear in this case off the pitch. The Premier League need to get on with their investigation and reach a verdict ASAP, in months not years. If Man City won’t cooperate or try to continue to slow the process down then they should be found guilty without further delay.
Liverpool not only failed FFP but they hacked in to our computer system. Isn't that cheating? What about UTD being 700 million in debt, that ok is it?? I swear you lot pick and choose what to be upset about. Not only is there NO EVIDENCE but FFP is only put in place to stunt growth.
That’s not how the law works . N tbh I don’t believe you about the cheating . We all have a price ( granted some cheaper than others ) you’re no different
In fact the PL has completed its investigation, which is why they were able to bring the 115 charges (or is it 116? I can't remember). There is effectively a judicial process ongoing in which City will no doubt 100% fully cooperate with , so we now await the judgement of proven either innocent or guilty for each and every charge, and then finally the sanctions they'll receive for any guilt. Regardless of what comes down the line, in my view Man City have raped the sport entirely of its integrity, and proved they have no interest to take part in Professional Sport, as that fundamentally means an even playing ground for all competitors.
@@bensouthwell1339f your owners bought united or city they would drop Newcastle in a heartbeat 💓 😅😅😅 your owners wanted to buy united for £3b but glazers wouldn't sell so they bought your mob for £300m , if they had waited 18 months they could of bought united , now it looks like its goina be Qatar 🇶🇦
the biggest scandal in football history is the introduction of ffp. done soley to protect the cartel, and make it impossible for any other club to compete, disgraceful, with corrupt uefa at the heart of it
@@lilbaz8732 Cartel. It was United, Liverpool and Arsenal that pushed for it and everyone else went along with it. They would do wouldn't they, given that they were getting stuffed by City by 4 or 5-nil every week.
@@severnsea i spose they pushed for la liga and serie a to introduce their own versions too? Take off the tin foil hat mate. There is no conspiracy. City knew the rules and purposefully cheated. They are the lance armstrong of football and should face the same punishment.
@@lilbaz8732 You know absolutely nothing about the case, you've already demonstrated that and you're trying to convince who, me or yourself? Carry on crying, this is envy and bitterness thinly disguised as shock and disgust. If this was a baked beans company or a truck manufacturers or something nobody would give a toss. It's not City who are hundreds of millions in debt yet still able to spend more than anybody else, and it's not City they should be investigating. There has never been a club in football that is this well run, certainly not in the UK and they're going to be on top for a long time. Get over it.
@@gssf.gr29citeh have been cooking the books since 2009 , which is ironic cos you proberly became aware of their existence at the same time and started supporting them in 2012 when they won their first title 😢😢😢😢😢
As one of the lawyers said about 2 weeks after the CAS decision .... they should have just accepted the 2 year CL ban as this was always going to come back and bite them. They were so obviously guilty but the fraud involved in trying to prove otherwise is shocking.
@@-A-lm5xb yes it is , ADUG (abu dhabi united group) were pouring money into the club a private investment firm covered up in the form of sponsorship money which it wasnt
By delaying a conclusion UEFA are just allowing resentment and ridicule to increase. What's worse is that everyone sees it building except them, we all saw it with Chelsea and City but UEFA acted like they had no idea and if they did they wilfully ignored it
They need City in the Champions league this is what I was worried about and the PL doesn't want to damage the premier league so I doubt they will do anything maybe a small fine.
This sport is corrupted to the core. The Premier League MUST take action to save any shred of their being sanctimony & A true spirit of fairplay in this sport.
Man City dodgey af. As soon as any silverware is voided the rest will be tainted, even more so then it already is. Pep will be gone by then I’d imagine
@@samayo9746 Chelsea were bad for the game but they at least operated within the rules of the game. City are being accused of breaking the rules when everyone else are complying with them.
Yes! I hope those in Man U that wants their club to be taken over by a human rights abusing nation, Qatar, reconsider. Chelsea went Russian and City Middle Eastern and in both cases fans now are putting their hard earned money into the pockets of no good people. Personally I do not want to see football clubs becoming battlefield for criminals and human rights abusing dictatorships that withhold workers, treated like slaves, passports with no legal rights. IF Man U are sold to Qatar I will instantly leave the Man U sites I use and never watch a Man U match ever again. I do not watch City nor Chelsea matches for same reasons. NO sport are more important than human rights and people being treated with dignity. I will not contribute one Pound to owners that at the same time have workers dying from dehydration and overwork in the baking sun without any legal rights. I am frankly beyond disgusted. The current incompetent US capitalists owning Man U now are one thing. Killers are another. No dictatorship football league ever for me! I have followed Man U for over 30 years but it might not last long if sold to the wrong people. NOT IN MY NAME!
This is an absolute embarrassment for our league, European football and a stain on the game. What an absolutely outrageous scandal, this club and their owners should be hit as hard as possible, fines, stripped titles and relegation otherwise this is just going to keep happening. I trully despair what has happened to this sport
@@ticklemetrout9625no. Its a competitive sport dealing in huge amounts of money. And its citys money that has destroyed the competition. Should be made an example of considering all their lying and deceit
@@syncopaint_minis3016 why as city’s money destroyed the competition. How many times have city broke the transfer record , how many of the most expensive signings in the world do city have ? Could you not say the same about Blackburn , United , Liverpool, Chelsea if we are just naming English clubs . Are you suggesting no other ‘club’ as ever lied
@@ticklemetrout9625 Way to cherrypick, Blackburn won the league when there were no rules in place to prevent clubs from buying trophies. There are rules now to prevent such things, even though no charges have ever been brought against Chelsea and Abramovich, it was obvious to everyone that they were breaching the rules, just as with City.
Manchester City should be demoted down the football pyramid that would be a just outcome. An I don’t mean just one demotion maybe league 2 and transfer sanctions if they have breached for 9 years
Lets face it city can have the best lawayers in the world this is going to make absolutely no difference. Premier league rules , no laws , no appeals to follow, wirh all the stakeholders pushing for city to recoeve maximum punishment.
And the fans, i mean the ones at the game seem silent. The atmosphere at these games is horrible. Wee song at the start, a clap after a goal and their on the way out before then end. This was really prominent at the CL final. It had no soul.
Try watching Man City then, it's nothing like that at the Etihad. Incidentally you do know that Sky Sports kill microphones in certain laces at certain times in grounds? It's been known for years.
@@severnsea I know the tv kills the singing, but there has to be signing to start with, something you only get at the start during most games and maybe after a goal..Only EPL ground where ive heard proper chanting for most of the 90 mins is crystal palace.
@@hendriekevin4171 I go to the home matches So I know the reality,, but some grounds are really good with acoustics, Anfield for example with extensive tin sheeting used on the roofing which has a huge effect. The Etihad was criticised when it was built for it's acoustics, bearing in mind it wasn't designed to be a football stadium. That's nothing to do with City or their fans. If you really want to hear the difference on TV though try watching on the foreign channels, the sound portrayed in many stadiums is a world away from what you get on Sky and Bt.
Just go to a game you want loud fans , Borussia dortmund is there , it’s not your team yet people seem so fixated on man city and they not having fans , comparing them to other clubs
@@sidbob1215 not funny. Even Jose said that pep should be embarrassed to accept UCL victory of Barcelona with tainted ref decisions. 😂 I take it you are a pessi fan
Thankfully for United, the Glazers are far too incompetent to come up with something like this 😂
Wanna bet.
They also don’t have 100’s of millions to pretend that came from sponsors
Yet they're able to spend at least as much while being hundreds of millions in debt. How anybody can think that City are so bad while believing what United are doing is perfectly acceptable beggars belief. You couldn't make it up, although in United's case you don't have to.
Nice One!! Big of you but so True!! YNWA!
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@severnsea
First, you dont know how ffp for example, works.
Second, United have way more fans compared to City, witch translates into money (unless you cheatvthat is.)
To all city fans surely you have all heard the phrase "if something sounds too good to be true then it usually is" 😮
lmao
@@Gdatshim Those trophies look very real to me too.
@@severnseanot for much longer 🤡
Have you seen the trophy cabinet recently? Looks real enough to me. 🏆🏆🏆
keep telling yourself that
This is actually sickening , this completely discredited Man City football clubs existence as a legitimate football club. All titles don’t matter , and this team would never have been put together to even compete at high levels. It’s a shame…
Luton got 30 points and 5 years outside the football league - but we've done our time and now we are back.
Not for long.
So you're involved with Luton?? Ok, how did you do it?? How did you get to the Premier League!
If you're just a Luton "fan" I'll be seriously pissed!!! 😡
@@dommidavros2211fuckin unhinged jeez
Sounds like what City should get!
@@dommidavros2211 bruh 😂 chill out you melon
Strong, brave journalism exposing the biggest fraud / financial doping in the world 👌
CAS should be dissolved after there decision which favoured the cheats city the only good thing this time is there not involved in the latest FPP charges 😂
Can't wait for the final decision.
115 charges.
Don't hold your breathe pal!
@@minnieman9096 watch the breaking news
You're going to have to. For greater immediacy I would suggest following Everton or Forest
the camel jockeys will spend billions to find out any corruption the Premier League has had a hand in, they will use that to bury their wrongdoings and that will be that. Football is all about money now, we have lost it.
Me too. You're all going to look like a real bunch of tools.
Football is not football anymore it’s a business it’s so curupted
Ban the cheaters
Is never going to happen, the arabs say jump and the brits bent over and says in my asrhs please.
Ban the liars, like you.
Did you watch the documentary 😂? @@severnsea
@@severnseaAnother clueless City fan that even after watching this still thinks man city ain't cheats 🤣🤣🤣
@@VaeVictis96 Don't know how many times I have to say this, but the only clueless morons on here are the ones who think that some two-bit video on YT is correct and factual - a video made by a production company that according to the official UK company database, doesn't even exist, quotes a "City director" that didn't even work for the club at the time, and just makes up some fairy tale.
Clueless I get, but you have to be a moron to believe that UEFA are going to hand over important evidence from a private hearing to some nondescript prat who wants to make a clickbait video. But we don't give a toss, you just go on proving to everybody else how stupid you really are.
Football clubs should refuse to play them. Let them take trophies without playing any games to show how worthless the wins are.
Why werent all 3 CAS arbitrators chosen independently?? This hearing was a complete joke. And wouldnt be surprised if all those 115 charges miraculously disappear because of a 'technicality'.
Nah bruh it's the Premier league no Time barring or time limits or appeals allowed for city! This time they are fooked!
How strange this may come across to people not accustomed to legal procedures, it is actually a common procedure which appeared to hav been followed here by CAS. In various fields of law where disputes/cases are handled through arbitration the arbiters are selected in this manner. Both parties involved are allowed to select one arbiter, then those two arbiters select a third arbiter who presides the arbitration panel.
You really think the PL will punish City the Only British Team representing them in Europe, Let's wait and see, City will Win this115 chargers@@mymemories925
Why didn't UEFA turn up for the CAS case or appeal it if they actually had a case? Because they had nothing. The fact that you're all basing your hopes and prayers on a stolen email from a criminal who is behind bars just proves how bitter and desperate you all all.
The premier league will do nothing, not because they can't but because they're just as likley to take a backhander
The bent Premier League will have enough on their plate paying a sizeable 'backhander' to their chosen independent commission .... they need to get the decision they want without any 'hiccups' happening!
You realise the premier league is run by the 20 chaimen of the clubs? Most of them billionaires, that will be some back hander. Cause i'm pretty sure they'll want to fuck city over.
The football fans need to make sure they don't get off. Really think of how City's bullshit has negativity affected the game. Creating this sports washing, cheating environment, and most importantly how many teams they have effectively relegated, dumped from cup competitions, and flat out stolen from. It's not about the big clubs, it's about the rest that they've fucked over.
Yep as long as the cash keeps coming in they will do f all
When you have a lot of money and power, nothing can stand in your way.
There is no doubt both CASS & UEFA received hush money from the UAE. Because for something this serious all the sudden dropped and forgotten.
Scandalous. Very unsporting. So much for Sports Washing………
That's a shame, the rest of you are well and truly screwed then. 🏆🏆🏆
Dropped and proven innocent are two very different things though.
Who are CASS? Never heard of them.
Glasgow Rangers we’re relegated to the Scottish bottom league and stripped of their titles for less than this.
But that was done by honourable people , don't expect this from the English, corrupt bastards , the lot of them
They were not stripped of the titles. They just became a new club. Their Dumbadol fans believe they have won 55 leagues in reality they have one 1 that was during the Pandemic. They r proud of that though. HH
So did Juventus
Was that not the government going after rangers for tax avoidance more so than the footballinh authority.
I still maintain rangers gettinh kicked out the league was the worst thing for celtic because theyd lost any form of competition in the domestic league.
It’s more a case of city having so much money they can do what they like. Rangers were broke
City have signed the biggest shirt sponsorship deal ever. It allows them to swerve the FFP rules.
The sponsor happens to be there owners.
WTF.
Shady af
So true 👍 and fiffa ueffa are blind to that fact
@@samsingh3753there's definitely samsingh fishy going on..🤭
Someone has to be the highest usual man u but this didn't seem to be a problem 😂😂😂😂😂
Playstatiion5spiderman2
Shame to all who were involved in this act of corruption and denial of justice. Football fans don't deserve this. Big up to the hacker btw, true football hero
Which is why he's on his way to prison.
@@-A-lm5xb one man's hero is another man's villain
@@jadwaymekenyeor one man’s villain is another man’s hero. No?
A hero? Whose 6 emails were proven to be edited out of context and thrown out by CAS?😆 👌
you just watched an entire documentary on how shady the operator of city are, and yet you still voluntarily keep your head in the sand
Fifa policing financial scandal is like putting a bank robber in charge of the bank
Word. It's their shitty rules in the first place that allowed this. What a wnk of an organisation.
What does that have to do with anything?
Fifa aren't mentioned once, nor are they involved in any way!?
They 100% need titles stripping and relegating. The Premier League HAVE to take action!!!
Stay mad ur just a racist 🐷 sons of Allah own the best team in the world, your country and the women
Stay mad
hahahaha
Cry more...😂😂😂
That would be the correct thing to do morally but brown envelopes
Based on what?
The “best” team in the world?? That’s a big statement. They have one champions less than Notts Forest.
Forest 0 premier league titles..
@@MCFC-l1kNoob cheater club
Dya mean champ league/European Cup?
Also you'll hilariously annoy forest fans by calling them notts! 😂
Hope you're good mate 👍
Who are Notts Forest? I don't think the "best team" is decided just by how many CL trophies you have. You're claiming those two trophies outstrip everything City have won in the past decade or so? I think I'm correct in saying that City had won more than Forest overall even before the current owners took over. Most certainly have spent a lot more time in the top flight so what's your point exactly?
@@-A-lm5xb I don't think he meant it literally bro
Every title Man City have “won” has a great big * next to them
Still drunk I see. You're a murderer too*.
Thank you for keeping a light on this absolute financial doping
What absolute financial doping?
Agueroooo😂 this will be the funniest moment in man city history first premier league title that wasn't meant to be , if found guilty
@@ravd8082 Really? I don't see any of you laughing right now.
@@ravd8082so did the ref score the goal?
@@ravd8082that will be hilarious but justice would be done. Cheats should not prosper.
Football is corrupt from the top down. Istanbul hosting two Champions League finals, Qatar hosting the World Cup. Say no more.
stay mad..World Cup at Qatar was the best ever in every aspect.
And who are the ones taking those alleged payments 🤔 it's not members of those countries you mentioned.
@@majd2qatar was most certainly not the best.
Shocking, it just shows how corrupt the game is
Doesn't show anything, they made it all up. You honesty think UEFA would have handed all those documents to some two-bit unknown internet production company that nobody has ever heard of? Wake up.
When was it not corrupt Hayesey?
What does?
Yup
2022 wc: 🤨🤔🤣💀🤦♂️
Im a Glasgow rangers supporter and we had to pay the price why should Manchester city be treated any differently nothing like double standards all because they can buy there way out the governing body needs to take a long look at their ways of doing things who will punish them its pathetic
Yep
Your club should hire the best possible lawyers and appeal all the punishments you received on the grounds that if man city are not guilty then neither are you! You're correct in saying what's good for one is good for all.
The Rangers are worse than Man City, because of all the Masons in the SFA
Well for starters City haven't been convicted of anything.
This year, Barcelona is approved for cl despite strong evidence of corruption. But Osasuna is out of el for the same accusation.
I think the sadest thing about most of the comments is everyone thinks City will get away with it .
Get away with it…
Do you mean if they are innocent it will no longer give bitter, jealous muppets a narrative to cling on to, due to city’s dominance and their own clubs shortcomings?
It's just because no one has faith In all football governing bodies. That I'd the saddes part
Not even their Allah will be able to save them , these are 115 different chargesheets, plus more will be brought for the period 2018 to 2022 for which investigations are underway , 150 different charges CANNOT ever be swept under the carpet , not even UEFA has the audacity to do that
Get away with what?
EPL will not risk thier reputation
The Italian League used to be top of the league for corruption ... maybe we've taken that title.
i take it we as in man city cheating their way to winning titles and cups kick them out
At least the Italians took action and are still doing so
A massive difference. The Italian league was fixing matches & paying off referees. Far worse than what City are accused of.
And yet Juventus get censured
*Real Madrid has left the chat*
Even with this, we're not even close.
You know those bots on Twitter always promising guaranteed betting wins?
Always the Latvian league. When you're fixing every game down to the result, you're making Serie A look like Sunday League.
Honestly, City fans, like Chelsea fans before them are living in absolute denial about how their clubs go about their business
How many City fans do you know?
@@Pauleymack…a few
Yes! I hope those in Man U that wants their club to be taken over by a human rights abusing nation, Qatar, reconsider. Chelsea went Russian and City Middle Eastern and in both cases fans now are putting their hard earned money into the pockets of no good people. Personally I do not want to see football clubs becoming battlefield for criminals and human rights abusing dictatorships that withhold workers, treated like slaves, passports with no legal rights.
IF Man U are sold to Qatar I will instantly leave the Man U sites I use and never watch a Man U match ever again. I do not watch City nor Chelsea matches for same reasons. NO sport are more important than human rights and people being treated with dignity. I will not contribute one Pound to owners that at the same time have workers dying from dehydration and overwork in the baking sun without any legal rights. I am frankly beyond disgusted.
The current incompetent US capitalists owning Man U now are one thing. Killers are another. No dictatorship football league ever for me! I have followed Man U for over 30 years but it might not last long if sold to the wrong people. NOT IN MY NAME!
@@madunwagbo4769who do you support guy?
Liverpool
I can remember my dad telling me about Peter Swan getting a lifetime ban in 1964 playing for Sheffield Wednesday, after he and 2 other players had made a bet on Wednesday losing a match. Modern day club revenue has rapidly increased since those days and along with that a steady increase in rule breaking. Corruption has been around a long time in football and morals fly out the window when there's a promise of a big paycheck
Spot on. Morals mean nothing when getting rich is put in front of someone.
People forget how UEFA screwed over 40+ nations in Europe in 94-95 season and then again 2 years later. This has continued since then.
UEFA gave England an automatic ticket to the Champions league fir the league champions, when their teams had failed to get past the qualifiers for the seasons previous. 2 years later, the runners-up were then invited to compete for the small handful of nations UEFA favoured just get rich.
Morals were nowhere then and today we have elitist attitudes in a small group of nations. A financial and footballing lanscape that has destroyed European football for the last 30 years for 90% of Europes nations.
If we don’t think players and match officials are involved with betting syndicates we are in denial.
Tony Kay got a lifetime ban back in the 60's too didn't he? He would {I believe, from what I've been told by uncles} been a great player for us {Everton}
Yes and clough of forest was say to allegedly take a bung in transfers.
Utd and Liverpool betting scandal
Anyone with any common sense can see city are bent they are an average club trying to be a big club but they don’t generate cash like United Liverpool Madrid Barcelona Bayern Munich .they are funding Peter to pay Paul under the same roof I new that from the start ✌️
Another Gobsh..i*e......Keep stacking them shelves....
So true 👍 in everything you said ,,hope corruption bk handers paid ,ueffa and fiffa ,and the uk 🇬🇧 FA read yr comment,,they have no shame just like some of the uk refrees who refree the games in dubia ,,which is owned by man city owners,,, bk handers say no more
😂What a 🤡
What the fuck you would you know about common sense? Like most of the rest on here all you have to do is make a simple comparison: Compare them with a club who:
- are almost a billion in debt
- have won comparitively fuck all
- have LOST countless hundreds of millions on players sales
- have paid off various managers in recent years
- have owners who are milking the club
- are currently badly run on and off the field
- have moved their registered office to a tax haven called Cayman Islands
and yet have STILL managed to spend at least as much in recent years. now ask yourself, given these facts, which club should be investigated. Now tell me you have any common sense. Pillock.
hahaha
The ONLY suitable punishment would be expulsion from the PL for a minimum of 5 years (and having to work their way up the leagues afterwards) and all parties involved to be banned from investing in football for life.
That would never happen though. Even a much more reasonable punishment would involve such levels of legal action that it would bankrupt UEFA. Abu Dhabi is richer than the sporting body.
Cheating loving plastic fans
@@pratosaurusrex1128 did you not listen to the narration? Premier league verdict CANNOT be appealed , UEFA or CAS are not in the picture anymore
@@rajeevpalthukral764 did you not read the context before flying off the handle? My comment was for OP suggesting an arbitrary punishment. Maybe I used the wrong body but the comment still stands.
City can go and form super league and shake hands with Saudi to kill European football.
The punishment you want is not just unprecedented it’s unfair too. It’s more of an example of your hatred than anything of logic. And City owners will respond to that in the same way.
The fair punishment would be points deduction. And that’s what I think is gonna happen.
The club should be demolished. Man City fan here.
Walter Mitty would be more accurate cock.
Strip them of the trophies and relegate them to the national league. Cheats.
😂
If that were to happen I think we could easily see the ESL gathering some momentum
Nope . .. it won't happen. Did you not see he revolt the last time by fams
@@whtwht I did, but if those fans were choosing between the national league and regular games with Barcelona etc …………
Who? Why?
716 dislikes. looks like all of city fans came together to achieve this milestone
PL have allowed this happened since City was purchased over 10 years ago!
Nothing to do with city
They are just incompitent anyone could've cheated and anyone could cheat
Because PL earns shit loads of money by MC.
Very similar to Chelsea in 2003.
city should just be banned!!!
I'm a lifelong City fan and was initially gutted when we were bought by an overseas entity that appeared to have no connection to Manchester, the team or even the country. But my view softened when they started to spend real money on the club, its facilities, the local area and on buying amazing players. Watching football played at the level that they've achieved has been an absolute joy. But if this is proven to be true I'm not sure if City would or should be allowed to come back from this as so many of our defining achievements are tainted....
Wow. Surprised to read this honestly.
lmao troll you are not a fan
@@MCFC-l1k 55 years.....
I wouldn't say so many of your achievements are tainted, I would say all of them!
@@onkouth The treble wasn't.... Just sayin..
The Scottish FA had the balls to relegate and punish Rangers and the Italian FA had the balls to relegate and punish Juventus. The FA and the Premier League - SPINELESS!
And unlike those two sides, none of the players, and hardly any of the fans will stick around after the hammer comes down. And that says all anyone needs to know about the legitimacy of the club.
The FA prefers to go after Everton
Italy also in the early 80s punished AC Milan
Spot on btw 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Interestingly Juve were recently punished for the Danilo-Cancelo swap with City. Would be interesting to see what punishment comes City's way since they did the same creative accounting
This isn't actually about football. It's about countries using football to gain influence and power so they don't have to change their societies. Ultimately it's about having bargaining power, if the investment fund of another country is directly, or directly, employing thousands of people in another nation they don't have to listen or respond to international pressure.
Even CAS sign is crooked.
You're crosseyed.
The saddest part about all this is the football clubs who are facing a total collapse as a result of trying to compete financially with these cheats.
That's the whole point....clubs can never compete if they can't invest money. The big 4 clubs who had the monopoly on all the euro cash never wanted anyone to encroach on their cartel.
I cannot actually believe you have posted that 😂
Incredibly funny.
NO it's your historic clubs that make them go bankrupt don't you fucking dare even try that bs
@@Pauleymack must be why the efl voted to bring in ffp. Or why only 2 prem clubs (city being one) voted against.
@@PauleymackI mean they can though can’t they, Leipzig, Lille, Leicester, Brighton. There are lots of examples of clubs doing it legitimately. Fortunately for City FFP wasn’t a thing for the first few years so they could post £200m loss after £150m loss year after year. By the time of was brought in the owner had already ploughed in about a billion or more of his own money.
Everyone wants competition, they just want fair competition and don’t eat a sugar Daddy going “you know what I’m gunna play football manager with Wolves, but the club, but then a stadium, double all their salaries, but the most expensive coach’s and best players and buy success because I can”
That’s effectively what City have done and despite the advantages they already had they still cheated and tried to get around the rules put in place……….. I for one hope they are hit and hit hard and lose most of the titles they have and kicked down a few divisions like Juventus.
How are they not banned already? I hope they get fined to oblivion
Fines won’t do anything. Sanctions and possibly getting expelled is the only consequences that’ll actually hurt them.
Football has always been corrupt, but with the money in the game now the scale has become obscene. I doubt City will be punished because the FA and Premier League are equally corrupt, and ultimately care for the bottom line, which is money. Kicking City out of the league will hurt the PL's revenue, not to mention damage the PL's reputation for allowing such large scale corruption to be carried out. An example needs to made, but I don't think they have the nerve to do it.
michael platini uefa president arrested for corruption.. this video appears...and attacks man city.. man city is not corrupt, they are not wrong and they use clean money not black money.. only they are too rich that some people want their money.. the problem is the city can't sue because they are a federation. does the law go one way. if the wrong club the club will get a sanction.. but what if the federation is wrong...?
Sweeping statement saying the PL and FA are corrupt, you’ll need to support that with some evidence……
That aside, the PL need to be careful, if Citeh, the Saudi’s and Qatari’s, continue with their financial domination and winning everything the PL will cease to be interesting…..they need to protect the product……
@@YoutalkIcomment lol
@@YoutalkIcomment WTF are you smoking
@@YoutalkIcommentwhat a bellend you are
I mean, if theyre not punished, then every other club should be allowed to flout rules as well 😊
Not everyone can afford it
All clubs are equal but some clubs are more equal than others.
@@barryetheridge6639😂😂😂😂😂
Strip this club of all honours and disband CAS.
Says a unemployed loser from his mom's basement 😂
What for?
Well? What for? Do you know? Do you have proof of anything that none of us have seen?
Look we all know City are going to be found guilty on a few of the charges and will be fined seventeen and a tanner by their standards and forgotten about a fortnight later. Money does not talk in football it ............SCREAMS.
yep. you are right
If the premier league dont come down hard on Man City, then its permission for Newcastle and any other future state owned clubs to run rampant
Once you get proof come back to me
@@fifty-five6929 lol.
@@fifty-five6929 not my job chief
@@fifty-five6929 there already is plenty of proof of Financial cheating by city, it's just that you choose to ignore it
@@20undy10i am waiting for the judgement. I can’t wait for Man Cheating to get caught out.
If city are found guilty they should kick out all state owned owners , dirtying up our game disgrace !!!
They have everyone in their pockets ... lets see if the football regulators have any balls
And if they're not? Don't bother answering, you'll all just claim they paid everybody off. Funny how everything was fine before isn't it. Clubs like Russian owned Chelsea bought their way to the top and nobody bats an eyelid. Man United still have the highest wage bill and pay top money for total flops while being almost a billion in debt and paying hundreds of millions in interest payments alone, but nobody bats an eyelid. Get a grip.
Every game they win, every trophy they win is tarnished, because they got them by cheating , they even got a ground for almost nothing. . . . . . . .they have not had to work for anything, which sort of takes any glory away. . . .
Every work you type is tarnished because you are simply jumping to conclusions, given that you have no proof whatsoever of anything, just like everybody else on here. If you had any idea of the work that has gone on there you would be embarrassed at your comment, But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
@@severnsea YOU'VE REALLY BEEN PUTTING YOURSELF ABOUT ON THIS COMMENT PAGE HAVEN'T YOU. . . . . . . . . .THE BLUE CHEATS WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU. . . .
@@williamdavies6241 Well given that you're all too dumb to work out the difference between a fake video and an official documentary,. somebody had to.
If they can’t govern the need for a governing body should be questioned
Hope pep is watching this, because he said if there was any wrongdoing he would be out of the door 🤔
He's a drug using cheat bankrolled by satanists, Pep is a fraud
Pep also knows he's nothing as a coach without an endless supply of money. He can't win anywhere without owners with deeper pockets than the rest of the league.
@@ChasingLamelythat’s why he’ll go to a better team
City :
Plastic fans
Plastic owners
And now it seems, plastic finance as well, can't wait to witness the great fall ☺️
Keep crying......And you want Qatar to buy your comedy Club...Long May The Glazers rinse you......FC Hypocrites....or is it Tourists FC..😂😂😂😂
Don't wait up.
Funny thing is, for a club you don't give a fuck about you're all making an awful lot of noise.
Sorry, it won't happen.
Another shock? Why, what was the first one?
They're cheats. It's that simple. Strip them of their titles and expel them from the premier league and the football league.
Says the biggest cheats of them all
fax
OK smartarse, explain then, If it's that simple you should have some undisputable evidence. You haven't, have you? Nope, thought not. So like everybody else with no solid evidence, by making a definitive statement you cannot prove is true, all you are is somebody lying about others who you are accusing of lying. Absolute scum.
With your dark history..you should keep very quiet.... Should have been cancelled years ago....😮😮😮
They need kicking out of the premiership and there trophys taken away
You don't even know how to spell the plural of trophy 🤡
Brilliant Doc! Thanks for the upload!
It's fake 🤣
You will not get away with it. When they throw the book at you, a good number of trophy wins will be deleted and awarded elsewhere, Liverpool, Arsenal, Inter etc. I cannot wait.
we WILL get away with 'it' and us city fans will be laughing I'm your face. in fact we are laughing at you already. We earnt our trophies. I'd rather be in our position than yours
Aguerrrooo😂 if found guilty this day will be remembered for city fans the first league title that never was
Why were there 12 solicitors on Citys side at the CAS meeting yet only 6 onthe other side? Surely this was an imbalance right from the start?
The number of solicitors is meaningless if the evidence is sound. The evidence was torn to pieces and proven in some cases to be outright deliberate fabrication.
Lol why because city dont mess about
@@thedean4431 who’s Lol?
UEFA would have been better off turning up with some actual evidence than carting along a few extra lawyers!
@@HRHMANSOUR Incorrect, the evidence produced was not proven to be fabricated, it was just ignored in favour of the word of two of the Man City officials, who, it appears now, were lying. Inexplicably, UEFA decided not to appeal, when they had been advised to do so, because of concerns surrounding conflict of interest of the Chairman of the CAS panel, and a clear imbalance in the make up of the panel. I wish to point out that I am not suggesting any impropriety between UEFA and Man City, despite the head of UEFA being "entertained" at a Man City match, just 2 days before the CAS hearing.
6 months on, the Toffees have lost 10 points as a result of financial FairPlay breaches and it’s still crickets on Citeh’s criminal and fraudulent actions.
Everton admitted they had done something wrong. Obviously it takes a considerable amount of time to investigate over 100 charges, Everton's took 4 years by the way, but obviously nobody on here is interested in a fair and proper investigation because if you were you wouldn't even be questioning it.
That's because Everton are guilty. We know that because they admitted it.
@-A-lm5xb not admitting to something, doesn't mean you're innocent. Citehs time will come.
@@AKA001aww 😅😅😅
@@AKA001why didn't united get a deduction
Whoever said "money wont change our wonderful game". who ever he was He must have taken a bung as well.
They should throw the book at City and ban its owners as unfit
Yep, and vacate their trophies.
The whole club should be re-investigated. I still find it fascinating that no one mentions the fact Pep Guardiola was done as a player for taking performance enhancing drugs (twice) but apparently it never merits a mention. If he found no problem doing this as a player then why would he see this as an issue when a coach???
The bodies of several players who came into his teams looked totally different after just a year training under him. It's interesting.
He was cleared the second time and it was a trace amount which it has been proven could not possibly have made any difference to his performance levels. It was later discovered that changes in the World Anti-Doping Agency's guidelines were made because some athletes naturally generated a certain amount of nandrolone. This is now a well known, well established fact and many other players and other athletes have been caught out by this error, including Jaap Stam and Edgar Davids. But just like most other posters on here you have managed to find something and twist it to suit your agenda rather than tell the full story, which says more about your honestly than it does about Guardiola's.
Very much different from George Best's known actual Class A drug taking, or Rio Ferdinand deliberately missing a drugs test and "disappearing" for a few days.
@@-A-lm5xb I was merely raising the point. The club needs to be investigated anyway. This is just an addendum. Which of the two times he tested positive are you talking about? They were (two weeks apart from each other) on 21 October and on 4 November 2001 the one after a match against Lazio in Rome, or the other one? Interesting also that he hired the same dodgy doctor when manager at Barcelona. Good to know he cleared his name, but continued taking the advice from the doctor with performance enhancing vitamins.
@@willdobson7351 There is no point to raise, I'm not entertaining it in any depth. it's just another slur that you lot are looking for, for no apparent reason other than you're dying to find City guilty because that suits your agenda. That's all this is about. If this had been Kelloggs, or Dulux or somebody breaking some financial trading rules nobody would give a toss. It's just jealousy, nothing more, nothing less.
@@-A-lm5xb you mention 'Ferdinand deliberately missing a drugs test and "disappearing" for a few days', so why don't we talk about Grealish's history of the same? He's never been properly treated for his functional addictions (note the plural), and is a ticking time-bomb as far as a serious relapse or OD goes. According to his health history and his 'absences with injury', he's about due for another incident. So good luck with him in the next couple of seasons🙃
Integrity needs to be withheld , This is disgusting
What happened at Celtic is far far worse. A huge paedophille ring in operation for years with many convicted. The Scottish government ( SNP) has refused to do a full public inquiry into this , simply because it will probably result in the demise of the club , and it is their support who vote for the SNP. This would be the biggest scandal in SPORT , not just football, if an inquiry was done. The Uk government should force an inquiry or many involved will escape justice.
Football died when skysports came along,thats when all the money started to get pumped into the game.will city get stripped of titles No,can you imagine city get relegated then beat every prem side they come up against in cup games the league wouldnt want that so that wont happen,if they get found guilty they will get fine,transfer ban and maybe kicked out of Europe.
They wouldbt be relegated to one division they'd ne relegated to the lowest league the players they have now would leave they couldnt afford to keep thrm
Don't forget it was Alan sugar who was behind the deal for sky to get the rights to the new premier league at the time of the meeting the Everton chairman Philip carter got all the managers together in London to discuss it only liverpool and Manchester United refused to agree to the new league it was originally going to be a deal done between bbc and itv Alan sugar has openly admitted that when they stopped the meeting for a break he walked out of the meeting rang his freind at sky and told him about the deal that was getting done between bbc and itv and he told them offer more money and you will get the rights to the new premier league it was also in his autobiography that was serialised in the daily mirror a few years ago he talks also about his company amstad which is Alan Michael sugar trading if you remember the very first sky dishes had that name on it
Ironic now that Sky Sports says how a European Super League would kill it off 😅
Not quite.. most players will leave the club
It's NOT Skysports fault. They are a broadcaster who spent alot of £££ to win the rights of a very very popular league, who then make that money back and a profit from adverts and charging a subscription. They have nothing to do with the fraud. It's MCFC and CAS/TAS UEFA fault. Blaming Sky is just stupid
The frauds should be stripped of their titles, banned and relegated if guilty. DISGRACE!!!
"Frauds"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂you've got no clue mate
@@tanay_1604 I call them frauds cz already one of the allegations were already proven and were later on found guilty and later on appealed to get their fine reduced. I just don't do that for the clicks.
@@tanay_1604Why do City fans comes to conclusions and say City are not guilty. That main comment guy said if guilty then they should be relegated. Why do you don't want to agree that your club is made because of flow of money from Arab. But by saying this I don't say other clubs don't spend money. They do too and don't win. But Man city is made because of money.
@@tanay_1604complete frauds, the sport’s a joke
@@romanlakes you've got no clue mate
You opened a channel for this specifically? 😂 The treble really hurt people, we are still dreaming.
you wont be dreaming when your found guilty
The seven stages of grief.... 1st denial
@@jennydunn9014 Denial of what? The only people I see in denial on here is you lot. You all laughed in 2008, thought it was all a big joke. Not laughing any more are you?
The football we knew and loved is already dead. This is the era of clubs competing with each other to find ways to spend more and more money and build star studded squads year in year out.
Sounds good too me😂😂.
the competition is not healthy
A pay cap is needed
Its always been the same. Teams at the top of the league spend more than those who aren't.
@@alanbell9171that aspect may be the same, but the sheer amount of money has increased due to the fact that in footballing terms oil nations have unlimited wealth.
If a City can explain how City can all of sudden claim to bring in more revenue income than Real Madrid, and Manchester United, I'll be impressed. That's the thing that makes me believe the allegations are true because there is zero chance City's revenue's are as high as they claim.
its called winning trebles and titles being in the cl every year
@@thedean4431 That’s not enough to surpass United and Madrid in revenue. It’s not like Madrid haven’t been winning titles and CLs regularly. It makes zero sense that City’s revenue would be that insanely high.
'All of a sudden'? In case you haven't been keeping track, we have dominated English football - the most lucrative league in the world - since Agueroooo's golden boot sank the Rags in 2012. That's 11 years, if you can count.
@@stevengarside Yeah but you’re starting point was very low. You don’t surpass United and Real Madrid in just a decade. I don’t believe it personally mate. They’re up to something fishy.
@thedean last season liverpool earned more money than mam city on the pitch due to coming 2nd in the league, champions league final, winning fa cup and carabo cup but man city books still said they generated more revenue than liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Liverpool have fans all over tbe world. Literally! Sell millions kore shirts and had more tv rights.
So you are talking nonsense there
If City don't answer for it, then why should anyone follow FFP?
Don't answer what? The club have already said that they have given the PL a ton of information. You can't give them information that doesn't exist. The PL brought the charges so it's up to the PL to prove their case, not for City to prove otherwise. If you're arrested the police have to prove you are guilty, not the other way around. Or would you rather go back to the dark ages when you are thrown in jail just because somebody says you are guilty? The number of people stating this claim on here is disgusting given that not a single shred of confirmed evidence exists.
'Truth always prevails'.
I've never wished more for this quote to come true.
Oh it will dont worry. Just as with the uefa case they won't prove jack shit. Bit of an uphill struggle to prove 10 years of accounts are false an that independent auditors like deloittes an others were part of a huge conspiracy.....
If only the police could be involved. City will be accused of " buying" tge panel when this fails again
uefa would have to revisit the case
I doubt any group will have the balls to do what should be done. Stripped of their trophies this season and sanctioned from the Premier League?? Nobody would do that. It would take morals and honour.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's exactly how most of us feel. To be honest, the Premier League and UEFA are so corrupt that as a fan you kind of want your team to cheat now, because it's so highly encouraged by the officials of the sport.
It's always been a disgrace to fine clubs who are actively breaching financial rules when they know they have a bottomless pit of cash. (Not just man city this has happened to regularly)
I'd love to see football get highly regulated.. Not anything outside football, just football. The whole thing is a cesspit.
@@martynh4407 🏆🏆🏆
He’s not wrong in this day and age there are no morals and honour only money
😂😂😂🏆🏆🏆😂😂😂
Watching this for the first time, after City sued the EPL, and waiting for that outcome.
Rationally you'd think they were obviously guilty, but I have a feeling they'll win 😂
The biggest scandal in European Football. If City are allowed to continue to cheat then it totally devalues all competitions.
The fact that they are cheating and hiding the fact, totally corrupt.
if Guardiola wants us to believe that he knows nothing and would walk out of the door if they were guilty, why doesn't he tell the board to present their case immediately rather than wait till they can get their stories together. if they have nothing to hide go to court right now.
What's really sad is that true football fans would go and watch their team no matter how much money was in the game. There is no need for this corruption.
I am saying that based on the fact I grew up watching the side my father took me to, because this was our local side. It was, in fact, CAFC, but there were and are plenty of teams below, even their level. The point is, it's about watching the team you love. We all have hopes and dreams, but you like to see the youth that comes through the academy, and it really is irrelevant about money at that point. Facilities might make a difference, but George Best was as poor as most poor players could be. This didn't make or break his ability. Talent isn't created by wealth.
George Best 😂 Great role model.
@severnsea I assume you are just being amusing. I could write a whole long reply if I thought you were being sarcastic or ironic or whatever. You see, the thing is, I was talking about football. If I were looking for role models, I would possibly have looked at my own parents or perhaps used someone famous; Peter Ustinov, for example. The thing is, role models is just a term that is bandied about in the modern era and not something that occurred to me back then. If it had of done, I doubt very much that I would have chosen a football player, unless, of course, I was looking for a role model to learn football from. Which oddly enough takes me back to George Best or Jimmy Greaves. How to be the greatest player or greatest goal scorer? A pity drink controlled both of them, but things were different then.
@@neil364 Or in short, that doesn't suit your argument so you've dismissed it as irrelevant. The fact remains that you named him, you can't simply cherry pick which points you think are laudable and ignore the rest.
@-A-lm5xb can you explain in a proper argument what point you are actually on about?
I was referencing corruption in football in the original argument, and happened to mention the greatest football player these islands have ever produced, as an example of football having f all to do with money, when it came to footballing talent.
For my argument to try and be diminished by George Bests personal life was, and is, a complete irrelevance.
Please explain what you are on about by cherry-picking unless you are just making no point, for no points sake?
@@neil364 Seems to me you re the one making no point for no point's sake. WTF dues George Best got to do with any of this? The guy is right, it's people like him that started to give the game a bad name in the first place. No great surprise given who he played for, but it has little, if anything to do with this discussion. All you said initially was "there is no need for this corruption" but nobody has a clue what you're talking about. The only thing we know about City is they have been charged, no verdict has been made and they were cleared by UEFA of the charges that the PL are basing most of their case on, so what exactly are you talking about?
I love football and I don’t mind that there will always be better teams than my own. But I can’t stand cheating, on the pitch, or it would appear in this case off the pitch. The Premier League need to get on with their investigation and reach a verdict ASAP, in months not years. If Man City won’t cooperate or try to continue to slow the process down then they should be found guilty without further delay.
Liverpool not only failed FFP but they hacked in to our computer system. Isn't that cheating? What about UTD being 700 million in debt, that ok is it?? I swear you lot pick and choose what to be upset about. Not only is there NO EVIDENCE but FFP is only put in place to stunt growth.
Same, i hate man utd much more than i hate man city however i can and did respect utds great teams
That’s not how the law works . N tbh I don’t believe you about the cheating . We all have a price ( granted some cheaper than others ) you’re no different
@@docholiday-lm4vfyou honestly don’t think any prem clubs bend the rules it’s just that city got caught
In fact the PL has completed its investigation, which is why they were able to bring the 115 charges (or is it 116? I can't remember). There is effectively a judicial process ongoing in which City will no doubt 100% fully cooperate with , so we now await the judgement of proven either innocent or guilty for each and every charge, and then finally the sanctions they'll receive for any guilt.
Regardless of what comes down the line, in my view Man City have raped the sport entirely of its integrity, and proved they have no interest to take part in Professional Sport, as that fundamentally means an even playing ground for all competitors.
The net is closing.
@mancitychamps2023 it is quite literally a video
Ah Man City....the Lance Armstrong of Football
Spot on.
Nothing but contempt.
LOL but its not a funny old game
Keep crying...
@@jazchaz1274 as a Toon fan we may buy city and man u as feeder clubs
@@bensouthwell1339f your owners bought united or city they would drop Newcastle in a heartbeat 💓 😅😅😅 your owners wanted to buy united for £3b but glazers wouldn't sell so they bought your mob for £300m , if they had waited 18 months they could of bought united , now it looks like its goina be Qatar 🇶🇦
the biggest scandal in football history is the introduction of ffp. done soley to protect the cartel, and make it impossible for any other club to compete, disgraceful, with corrupt uefa at the heart of it
18 prem clubs voted to bring in ffp. Soton and city voted against. The efl also brought in ffp. 90% of clubs is a vast majority not a cartel.
@@lilbaz8732 Cartel. It was United, Liverpool and Arsenal that pushed for it and everyone else went along with it. They would do wouldn't they, given that they were getting stuffed by City by 4 or 5-nil every week.
@@severnsea i spose they pushed for la liga and serie a to introduce their own versions too?
Take off the tin foil hat mate. There is no conspiracy. City knew the rules and purposefully cheated. They are the lance armstrong of football and should face the same punishment.
@@lilbaz8732 You know absolutely nothing about the case, you've already demonstrated that and you're trying to convince who, me or yourself? Carry on crying, this is envy and bitterness thinly disguised as shock and disgust. If this was a baked beans company or a truck manufacturers or something nobody would give a toss.
It's not City who are hundreds of millions in debt yet still able to spend more than anybody else, and it's not City they should be investigating. There has never been a club in football that is this well run, certainly not in the UK and they're going to be on top for a long time. Get over it.
@@gssf.gr29citeh have been cooking the books since 2009 , which is ironic cos you proberly became aware of their existence at the same time and started supporting them in 2012 when they won their first title 😢😢😢😢😢
Man City - Welcome to the Sunday morning pub team leagues.
Slipped up on their own oil and set light to it.
Hahaha you wish
@MrAndyTu #115 charges, you’ll never sing that” 🏆🏆🏆🩵
As one of the lawyers said about 2 weeks after the CAS decision .... they should have just accepted the 2 year CL ban as this was always going to come back and bite them. They were so obviously guilty but the fraud involved in trying to prove otherwise is shocking.
🏆🏆🏆 You wish sucker! 🏆🏆🏆
Pr...*ck....😂
So the owners are the main sponsors of the club.
That's sports washing
No, they are not.
@@-A-lm5xb yes it is , ADUG (abu dhabi united group) were pouring money into the club a private investment firm covered up in the form of sponsorship money which it wasnt
thats right ABDUG- abu dhabi united group owned by shiekh mansour
Send Man City them back to the championship Division and opportunity to be to the English Division ❤
Why?
115 charges, let just 1 stick
By delaying a conclusion UEFA are just allowing resentment and ridicule to increase. What's worse is that everyone sees it building except them, we all saw it with Chelsea and City but UEFA acted like they had no idea and if they did they wilfully ignored it
This has nothing to do with UEFA, but it is a good indication of exactly how much you know and how clued up you are.
@@severnsea thanks for your contribution
Chelsea haven’t broken any financial rules
They need City in the Champions league this is what I was worried about and the PL doesn't want to damage the premier league so I doubt they will do anything maybe a small fine.
Chelsea have not broken any rules though..
That club needs to be suspended from football for misconduct
Why?
This sport is corrupted to the core. The Premier League MUST take action to save any shred of their being sanctimony & A true spirit of fairplay in this sport.
Guaranteed, the PL will do nothing to Man. City.
Billionaires have completely ruined football.
the hacker deserves a key to the city..no pun intended
Wow, what a wicked lot of people.
Man City dodgey af. As soon as any silverware is voided the rest will be tainted, even more so then it already is. Pep will be gone by then I’d imagine
Based on what? We keep hearing this but I haven't seen a single shred of evidence from anybody.
Disgusting what the sport has become.
Started by Chelski; now Cheaty
@@samayo9746 Chelsea were bad for the game but they at least operated within the rules of the game. City are being accused of breaking the rules when everyone else are complying with them.
@@bookclub5021 facts
Yes! I hope those in Man U that wants their club to be taken over by a human rights abusing nation, Qatar, reconsider. Chelsea went Russian and City Middle Eastern and in both cases fans now are putting their hard earned money into the pockets of no good people. Personally I do not want to see football clubs becoming battlefield for criminals and human rights abusing dictatorships that withhold workers, treated like slaves, passports with no legal rights.
IF Man U are sold to Qatar I will instantly leave the Man U sites I use and never watch a Man U match ever again. I do not watch City nor Chelsea matches for same reasons. NO sport are more important than human rights and people being treated with dignity. I will not contribute one Pound to owners that at the same time have workers dying from dehydration and overwork in the baking sun without any legal rights. I am frankly beyond disgusted.
The current incompetent US capitalists owning Man U now are one thing. Killers are another. No dictatorship football league ever for me! I have followed Man U for over 30 years but it might not last long if sold to the wrong people. NOT IN MY NAME!
Become? It's always been disgusting.
They can’t even sellout the majority of their home games.
The owner only ever attending two City games was an interesting little fact. If the owner can't be bothered, why should anyone else?
This is an absolute embarrassment for our league, European football and a stain on the game. What an absolutely outrageous scandal, this club and their owners should be hit as hard as possible, fines, stripped titles and relegation otherwise this is just going to keep happening. I trully despair what has happened to this sport
Oh do shut up, not one credible shred of evidence, isn't it a good job you're not on jury service
Lmfao a bit dramatic would you not say .
@@ticklemetrout9625no. Its a competitive sport dealing in huge amounts of money. And its citys money that has destroyed the competition. Should be made an example of considering all their lying and deceit
@@syncopaint_minis3016 why as city’s money destroyed the competition. How many times have city broke the transfer record , how many of the most expensive signings in the world do city have ? Could you not say the same about Blackburn , United , Liverpool, Chelsea if we are just naming English clubs . Are you suggesting no other ‘club’ as ever lied
@@ticklemetrout9625 Way to cherrypick, Blackburn won the league when there were no rules in place to prevent clubs from buying trophies. There are rules now to prevent such things, even though no charges have ever been brought against Chelsea and Abramovich, it was obvious to everyone that they were breaching the rules, just as with City.
City and Red Bull. Both sporting cheats and should be stripped of their recent successes.
Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s wrong , you don’t hold the moral high ground
Fines do nothing. Points deduction and relegation are the only way to go
Manchester City should be demoted down the football pyramid that would be a just outcome. An I don’t mean just one demotion maybe league 2 and transfer sanctions if they have breached for 9 years
The PL officially implemented FFP on 2013 . Where did you get 9 years of wrong doing? Don’t cry too much else you will have a nightmare.
Just for them to be back in a matter of only a couple years?
Lets face it city can have the best lawayers in the world this is going to make absolutely no difference. Premier league rules , no laws , no appeals to follow, wirh all the stakeholders pushing for city to recoeve maximum punishment.
Let's hope the premier league is not compromised
And the fans, i mean the ones at the game seem silent. The atmosphere at these games is horrible. Wee song at the start, a clap after a goal and their on the way out before then end. This was really prominent at the CL final. It had no soul.
Try watching Man City then, it's nothing like that at the Etihad. Incidentally you do know that Sky Sports kill microphones in certain laces at certain times in grounds? It's been known for years.
@@severnsea I know the tv kills the singing, but there has to be signing to start with, something you only get at the start during most games and maybe after a goal..Only EPL ground where ive heard proper chanting for most of the 90 mins is crystal palace.
@@hendriekevin4171 I go to the home matches So I know the reality,, but some grounds are really good with acoustics, Anfield for example with extensive tin sheeting used on the roofing which has a huge effect. The Etihad was criticised when it was built for it's acoustics, bearing in mind it wasn't designed to be a football stadium. That's nothing to do with City or their fans. If you really want to hear the difference on TV though try watching on the foreign channels, the sound portrayed in many stadiums is a world away from what you get on Sky and Bt.
Just go to a game you want loud fans , Borussia dortmund is there , it’s not your team yet people seem so fixated on man city and they not having fans , comparing them to other clubs
WHERE PEP IS THERE, THERE IS SCANDAL. BARCELONA PAID REFS IN LA LIGA
Crybaby
😂😂 this is the funniest one yet.
Nice one James.
@@sidbob1215 not funny. Even Jose said that pep should be embarrassed to accept UCL victory of Barcelona with tainted ref decisions. 😂 I take it you are a pessi fan
@@JamesBond-is5du Ooo wonder why he would say that 😂
Wow. Just shown your age. Get to bed. School in the morning
Pandora pep's dodgy as fk_he's been banned twice for doping + 2 of his teams have been charged with corruption_hes even named in the pandora papers
Doesn’t look good for City. Wow I didn’t realise just how corrupt they really are. It’s awful what they’ve done to the beautiful game. I feel shocked
Excellent work
Ikkle city cooking the books
So have yoonited 😂
Yoonited fined 300 thousand euros for cheating
Oh the irony 😂
Oh the irony...
This guy bertie is in his 60's