A Detailed Look: Fox Engine

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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    Designed for the next Metal Gear Solid game but mainly used for Football simulations. Why did Kojima even want the Fox Engine?
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  • @sknfer
    @sknfer 2 роки тому +142

    feel sad for the engine , it worked perfectly on potato hardware

    • @bebopcola4643
      @bebopcola4643 2 роки тому +40

      mgs5 was one of the few open world games Ive played with no microstuttering on my pc.

  • @safetyfirst464
    @safetyfirst464 2 роки тому +72

    Playing MGSV TPP in 2022 on PC and you can really appreciate the Fox Engine and see just how much potential it had. It is almost criminal that this engine only got used for one MGS game and a few soccer games then was shelved after the Kojima and Konami split... never to be used again.
    This engine would was pretty much made for MGS and would of been amazing now with about a decade since it launched. It really is a shame.

    • @vipoff3309
      @vipoff3309 Рік тому +3

      The Zombie game never existed ok

    • @chigstardan7285
      @chigstardan7285 Рік тому +2

      The soccer game is now terrible since it uses unreal and is free to play.

  • @realistic_football_videogame
    @realistic_football_videogame 7 місяців тому +2

    This was the best engine for PES. With this engine, PES was the most realistic football game, even more realistic than eFootball, which is made in Unreal Engine.

  • @Hy6KO
    @Hy6KO 7 місяців тому +1

    omg why not make mgo on fox engine with workshop?

  • @bitwise4996
    @bitwise4996 11 місяців тому +16

    They really should release this tech as free and opensource. People could really use it to make games.

  • @sungjin008
    @sungjin008 Рік тому +18

    If Konami hadn't done something stupid, the Fox Engine might have become a rival to RE Engine.
    I would never call Fox Engine a Konami engine, Metal Gear a Konami game.

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  Рік тому +7

      They should really be using it for the Snake Eater remake but won't be cos they already killed it.

  • @ilikepigeons6101
    @ilikepigeons6101 2 роки тому +27

    Indeed such a shame this powerful time saving engine was wasted away. Aside from mgsv and pt it's sad seeing the engine used for shit games

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  2 роки тому +13

      I ended up getting Survive on the cheap just so I got to play in the engine some more.

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 2 роки тому +4

      @@metalgearstudy lol

    • @bigfoot4034
      @bigfoot4034 2 роки тому +6

      #RaidKonami

  • @nizarmohammad2399
    @nizarmohammad2399 11 місяців тому +18

    Another thing is that the phantom pain had two open worlds, and ran at 1080p and 60 fps on the ps4 and Xbox one, and was also only around a 30-40 gb file size.

    • @gr-8166
      @gr-8166 9 місяців тому +3

      Just about 30gb size my download size for VTPP was 25Gb while GZs is 3…

  • @xXYannuschXx
    @xXYannuschXx 10 місяців тому +10

    I remember when the first leaks about the fox engine were talked about and I was just blown away how good it looked; this was WAY before UE5 was a thing and before UE4 had reached its maturity. Its a shame that Konami were such idiots and killed it off, they could have easily rivaled other engines on the market.

    • @brianbarajas2948
      @brianbarajas2948 10 місяців тому

      I bet that was Kojima's request for the split, makes mgsv a one of a kind

  • @zesork5627
    @zesork5627 Рік тому +48

    Such a tragedy. I truly believe this was the best engine ever developed. Godly lighting and performance. Snake's back muscles clenching as he crawls in the hospital hall was insane.

  • @trucctrucc245
    @trucctrucc245 2 роки тому +11

    Metal Gear Solid 5 The Phantom Pain was really the only full AAA game that was developed on this engine.
    Bummer they can't release it for the public.
    Like, imagine making an engine for years for it to be used privately and any good games made on the engine are either incomplete or outright cancelled, or used for just shit games. Literally a bruh moment 😢

  • @ThaboW11
    @ThaboW11 3 місяці тому +1

    Great engine that was, i build mods for PES16, fox engine's always been, awesome.

  • @justinw7323
    @justinw7323 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm still impressed for 2015 game graphics. On 4k tvs it looks still amazing to this day.

  • @zeallexandre
    @zeallexandre Рік тому +2

    Metal Gear GZ/PP
    P.T.
    Sad. I wish Kojima's studio bought the rights to Metal Gear, or even Sony, it would be much better than in Konami's hands.

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  Рік тому +2

      Guess we'll see with the Master Collection and Delta.

  • @thepaintercat
    @thepaintercat 7 місяців тому +2

    this could do wonders for vr games

  • @revolverswitch
    @revolverswitch 2 роки тому +4

    scrapped as in every trace deleted right? They won't even release it out in the open as abandon ware.

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  2 роки тому +5

      I mean there probably is a copy on their internal servers but they aren't using it anymore. So it's scrapped in that sense, the public won't see it again.

    • @blacklite911
      @blacklite911 Рік тому

      @@metalgearstudyunless we get a white hat mole in there to release it lol. Probably never gonna happen though

    • @StopBlurryGames
      @StopBlurryGames 8 місяців тому

      @@blacklite911 We need Lapsus.

  • @SoliderBoy
    @SoliderBoy 2 роки тому +9

    Rockstar RAGE engine and konami Fox engine are the most impressive engines imo
    i hate universal game engines (unity, unreal engine)
    its probably not even that they bad by the self but they make devs so lazy

    • @mathiasprudhomme6495
      @mathiasprudhomme6495 Місяць тому

      I know you probably dont program yourself, but please, calling a developper lazy when this profession is the most tiring, crunched, low payed job in video games is insane. Talk about execs all you want but do not call me lazy.

    • @SoliderBoy
      @SoliderBoy Місяць тому

      ​@@mathiasprudhomme6495
      if it would be so low payed ungrateful job you would rather work physicaly

  • @zeallexandre
    @zeallexandre Рік тому +4

    Imagine a Metal Gear in the Decima engine

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  Рік тому

      I mean not totally impossible if Konami asks Guerrila really nicely. Would look stunning though.

    • @uberbyte7467
      @uberbyte7467 6 місяців тому +1

      Kojima just announced a new metalgear-esque game he's working on for PS5 that's a spiritual successor to metal gear, and it's gonna be running on the decima engine

    • @gavinferguson2938
      @gavinferguson2938 2 місяці тому

      ​@uberbyte7467 Not to mention that Death Stranding featured animations and a graphics style that mimics those seen in MGSV. To me, Decima is being molded into the spirtual successor of the Fox engine because im sure, if Kojima had his way, he would still be using the Fox engine to this day. The fox engine was a beast, it output incredible visuals with stunning detail without ever dropping a single fps nor even a hint of preformance issues. Not to mention it still manages to run at a silky 60fps on even some of the oldest hardware today. Hell, they even got it running at 60fps 1080p on a PS4 and managed to achieve 30fps on PS3 which used its own infamous P-Cell shading. The PS3 was naturally difficult to port games to due to its unconventional design which was partly the reason why cross-platform wasnt really a thing back in those days, same for why the PS4 didnt have backwards compatability. And yet, despite all those limitations the Fox engine managed it all ontop of a plethora of complex systems and original mechanics. Its a fucking tradgedy that it never got supported beyond MGSV and PT because if it did, it might have grown into a competitor of UE5 and RE engine. Even today, the game runs beautifully at 4K maxed out settings without so much as a hitch and it remains one of the best looking and feeling games ive ever played. Such a shame MGS5 was incomplete, but what remains is still an incredible game in its own right.

  • @StopBlurryGames
    @StopBlurryGames 8 місяців тому +1

    We need Lapsus to leak the glorious source code of this engine.

  • @MrZega000
    @MrZega000 Місяць тому

    criminally underused engine

  • @skinscalp222
    @skinscalp222 7 місяців тому +1

    Your voice reminds me of that guy who worked at Destructoid.

    • @metalgearstudy
      @metalgearstudy  7 місяців тому

      I'm hoping that's a good thing. I have no idea what he sounds like.

  • @Dasistrite
    @Dasistrite 3 місяці тому

    Wasn't it first seen in the now cancelled METAL GEAR SOLID: RISING "Lightning Bolt Action" ?
    God damn was i hyped for that game..

  • @ZMA_831
    @ZMA_831 5 місяців тому

    great insight, man! thanks!

  • @johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408
    @johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408 2 роки тому +2

    👏👍🖖

  • @Abdullahjimmy
    @Abdullahjimmy 2 роки тому +3

    thank you, this gave me closure