As a huge college football fan it is really makes me unhappy what is happening in college football. 🏈 turning college football and basketball into semi-pro sports will eventually be the end of a lot of college sports. They will probably become club sports with no scholarships. Only a very few athletes will befit from the money. A lot of them will move around like nomads from one University to another looking for the best money till their eligibility runs out. A lot will leave with no degrees and back to where they came from.
UCLA is not returning to the Pac-12 or any Western-based conference unless schools like Oregon, USC, etc join them. The Big 10 money is too lucrative to leave.
You are probably right. But, UCLA is paying Cal $10m a year, $20-25m travel, and the fact that they are gonna get shellacked in the B10 will dampen enthusiasm in the donor, sponsor, fan, and academic administration areas. And the sands are shifting under our feet on conferences and such forward.
Jon Wilner ( like George Kliavkoff before him), has a dream of UCLA returning to the PAC. It is not happening. The more likely scenario is sometime in the 2030’s the Big 10 will add Stanford ( with ND), and possibly ASU & Utah to make a strong Western component for football TV and travel ( not to mention academics and research).
@@davidbrown386 I don’t think Wilner cares one way or another about UCLA. And the college landscape is not stable, remotely finished with realignment. And conference implosion. At the end of the day to Wilner point, maybe 40 schools will opt for spending at the out of control level. UCLA may or may not be one of them. It’s too fluid to say anything with any certainty
Jon Wilner: Finger on the pulse of what's going on out west. Also Jon Wilner: Is curious as to whether the leadership at Stanford and Cal is willing to go into the future as if there hasn't been leadership change at the tops of those campuses recently.
I see a future where there are no longer conferences. The B10 and SEC will merge into a confederation of possibly 60 or 70 teams (adding the better teams from the B12 and ACC) and the schools themselves will schedule their own opponents. Rules will be set up to balance things out and the committee will assign teams into a playoff.
The PAC footprint can no longer support a peer Tier 1 conference, otherwise USC+ would not have left for the B1G. The footprint could support a Tier 2, but incompetent and delusional leadership resulted in the PAC failing to survive at that level. Now that reality has set in, a Tier 2 PAC could be created, but that would require the 4Cs to return, but that is likely now cost prohibited.
Nostalgia is nice, but is used as a shield to prevent change and growth. Also, it doesn’t pay the bills. Now, will some niche sports have different leagues (eg beach volleyball), sure. Same as hockey and lacrosse. But overall the future is here. It doesn’t include the Pac. And it’s national.
Not all change is for the better. The powers that be have made $ the ends and not the means,and that is spirituality wrong. College football used to be closer to the high school game, rivalries meant something. Now it's big business. Screw the Super League, I will keep on watching the Fresno State Bulldogs no matter what conference they are in or not in. This new structure just might bankrupt the smaller schools.
There is no path for OSU/WSU to cherry pick the MW due to the financial restrictions involved. If they don't have another option in place by 2026 then they will have to join the MW.
The numbers are actually more favorable than you'd expect from what I've read. The scheduling agreement made it really pricey, but 6 MWC schools (the minimum required to rebuild to an 8 team FBS conference) is $67.5 million with the model they set in place. That's a lot of money, but the settlement they got from the departing 10 members was $65 million alone, so they financially *could* but I'm not totally convinced that's what will happen yet.
As a huge college football fan it is really makes me unhappy what is happening in college football. 🏈 turning college football and basketball into semi-pro sports will eventually be the end of a lot of college sports. They will probably become club sports with no scholarships. Only a very few athletes will befit from the money. A lot of them will move around like nomads from one University to another looking for the best money till their eligibility runs out. A lot will leave with no degrees and back to where they came from.
Ucla will not leave the big ten. That's leaving a ton of money on the table
UCLA is not returning to the Pac-12 or any Western-based conference unless schools like Oregon, USC, etc join them. The Big 10 money is too lucrative to leave.
You are probably right. But, UCLA is paying Cal $10m a year, $20-25m travel, and the fact that they are gonna get shellacked in the B10 will dampen enthusiasm in the donor, sponsor, fan, and academic administration areas. And the sands are shifting under our feet on conferences and such forward.
Jon Wilner ( like George Kliavkoff before him), has a dream of UCLA returning to the PAC. It is not happening. The more likely scenario is sometime in the 2030’s the Big 10 will add Stanford ( with ND), and possibly ASU & Utah to make a strong Western component for football TV and travel ( not to mention academics and research).
@@davidbrown386 I don’t think Wilner cares one way or another about UCLA. And the college landscape is not stable, remotely finished with realignment. And conference implosion. At the end of the day to Wilner point, maybe 40 schools will opt for spending at the out of control level. UCLA may or may not be one of them. It’s too fluid to say anything with any certainty
Jon Wilner: Finger on the pulse of what's going on out west.
Also Jon Wilner: Is curious as to whether the leadership at Stanford and Cal is willing to go into the future as if there hasn't been leadership change at the tops of those campuses recently.
When Jon Wilner speaks, you should listen.
I see a future where there are no longer conferences. The B10 and SEC will merge into a confederation of possibly 60 or 70 teams (adding the better teams from the B12 and ACC) and the schools themselves will schedule their own opponents. Rules will be set up to balance things out and the committee will assign teams into a playoff.
UCLA is not coming back
The PAC footprint can no longer support a peer Tier 1 conference, otherwise USC+ would not have left for the B1G. The footprint could support a Tier 2, but incompetent and delusional leadership resulted in the PAC failing to survive at that level.
Now that reality has set in, a Tier 2 PAC could be created, but that would require the 4Cs to return, but that is likely now cost prohibited.
Nostalgia is nice, but is used as a shield to prevent change and growth. Also, it doesn’t pay the bills. Now, will some niche sports have different leagues (eg beach volleyball), sure. Same as hockey and lacrosse. But overall the future is here. It doesn’t include the Pac. And it’s national.
How much is Petitti paying you
Not all change is for the better. The powers that be have made $ the ends and not the means,and that is spirituality wrong. College football used to be closer to the high school game, rivalries meant something. Now it's big business. Screw the Super League, I will keep on watching the Fresno State Bulldogs no matter what conference they are in or not in. This new structure just might bankrupt the smaller schools.
Won’t include the B12 or ACC either. And the B10 and SEC will jettison schools.
Has Jon moved to Indianapolis yet?
There is no path for OSU/WSU to cherry pick the MW due to the financial restrictions involved. If they don't have another option in place by 2026 then they will have to join the MW.
The numbers are actually more favorable than you'd expect from what I've read. The scheduling agreement made it really pricey, but 6 MWC schools (the minimum required to rebuild to an 8 team FBS conference) is $67.5 million with the model they set in place. That's a lot of money, but the settlement they got from the departing 10 members was $65 million alone, so they financially *could* but I'm not totally convinced that's what will happen yet.
Cal & Stanford will end up in the big12
No they won't. They won't join and the Big 12 doesn't want nor need them.
Are you sure the Big12 wants them?