The Rise & Fall of the Western Athletic Conference

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • The Western Athletic Conference was home to some of College Football’s greatest small school stories in the modern era. We saw BYU in 1984 win the National Championship with a 13-0 finish, Hawai’i make it all the way to the Sugar Bowl in 2007 following an undefeated regular season, and the rise of Boise State whose dominance spanned for years. From upsetting Oklahoma to the Kellen Moore led Broncos, these teams were among the best of the small schools in the entire country. And who could forget College Football’s best stadium in Idaho’s Kibbie Dome. You likely picked a school from the WAC in your NCAA Dynasties because all of these schools had potential and were just fun programs. For a while, this Conference was one that housed good College athletic programs, and was arguably the best outside of the Power 5. However, a series of moves changed the tide of the Conference all together, and by the 2014 season, it had ceased to play Football altogether. While they plan to bring the sport back amongst new members, this was a Conference that accomplished a lot with a little, and soon vanished. So, what happened to the Western Athletic Conference? In today’s video, we will be looking into their rise to prominence, the fall that led to them stopping football period, and the outlook for the future. This, is the Fall of the Western Athletic Conference

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  • @JKJ002
    @JKJ002  Рік тому +68

    With a recent wave of realignment within College Sports, I wanted to bring a video talking about how one Conference in specific was negatively impacted by realignment, the Western Athletic Conference. How do you feel about realignment within College Sports in 2023?
    Also, *Promo Code: "Jason0662" for $20 off your first purchase with Seatgeek*

    • @Comradeslush
      @Comradeslush Рік тому +2

      As a Ohio state big 10 I’m excited to see some new schools in the rotation and some better competition!

    • @Comradeslush
      @Comradeslush Рік тому +1

      Your video got recommended to me because I kept looking up stuff about the realignment!

    • @Iam123-i5j
      @Iam123-i5j Рік тому +4

      I think college football is eating itself

    • @PrincessSoci
      @PrincessSoci Рік тому +1

      i really think conferences should be geographic based
      at the end of the day these are still schools
      these kids arent getting paid for their effort, most of them are just doing it for fun and because they're somewhat decent at it
      too many realignments is all just about money and it shouldnt be like that imo

    • @caidendaniel24
      @caidendaniel24 Рік тому

      Because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9 ❤

  • @B3FMandCProductions
    @B3FMandCProductions Рік тому +267

    It's amazing to think that the WAC once had teams like Arizona, Arizona State, and BYU and was essentially a power conference is now reduced to falling to FCS and merging with an East Coast league to bring football back. Still, I remember watching teams like Boise State and Hawai'i tear it up when I was a kid and the Kibbie Dome will always remain legendary

    • @austinunderwood
      @austinunderwood Рік тому +3

      I've heard at least one of those FCS teams is pretty good

    • @Sam-ps8zz
      @Sam-ps8zz Рік тому +7

      A good bit of the wac teams are power 5 and even outside of those there's teams like Boise and San Diego which have a shot at making it in the next wave or so of realignment

    • @caidendaniel24
      @caidendaniel24 Рік тому +1

      Because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9❤

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 Рік тому +4

      In a lot of ways, the classic WAC was college football's first "mid-major" conference. A good number of night games, and being underserved by the Byzantine NCAA TV rules kept the WAC largely a mystery. But once exposed, folks nationwide fell for the WAC's freewheeling style of football that ASU introduced, but BYU turned into an art form-the other conference schools had to open up to keep up

    • @ZackFrisbee
      @ZackFrisbee Рік тому +6

      Didn't help that the Mountain West became a factory cranking out teams like TCU and Utah and elevating them.

  • @zxmoore1
    @zxmoore1 Рік тому +159

    David Carr at Fresno, Colin Kaepernick at Nevada, Colt Brennan at Hawaii, Kellen Moore at Boise St, Ladanian Tomlinson at TCU. It was a fun time in the WAC and once BYU slowed down, it opened the doors for a lot of different teams with good talent to take over and give the conference a boost. Their late games were always a part of my weekend football viewing. Great time!!

    • @rws91942
      @rws91942 Рік тому +12

      also Marshall Faulk at SDSU

    • @ReggieNoble1089
      @ReggieNoble1089 Рік тому +10

      Devonte Adams played at Fresno St. too. Demarcus Lawerence from BSU, Fred Warner LB for the 49ers played for BYU.

    • @caidendaniel24
      @caidendaniel24 Рік тому +3

      Because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9 ❤

    • @tlhamp0
      @tlhamp0 Рік тому +2

      @@caidendaniel24 dude this isn't Sunday and we are talking football not religion

  • @Ramen_Hibachi
    @Ramen_Hibachi Рік тому +313

    Big East next please

    • @EU_Red_Fox
      @EU_Red_Fox Рік тому +19

      That’ll be the rise and rise. Getting rid of football has been good for the conference. It has risen to national championships and consistent top 25 for half the sides annually. An asshat AD of iirc Pittsburgh decided to blow it all up. There was a blood bath of college basketball with some football, but it’s been just as strong in baseball. Very happy as a BE alum.

    • @KB8Killa
      @KB8Killa Рік тому +5

      Big east was tough

    • @kennethmayner
      @kennethmayner Рік тому

      Good one. Death of the Big East and the creation of the American.

    • @TRUTHaintHATING
      @TRUTHaintHATING Рік тому +1

      Exactly

    • @1234Peacekeeper
      @1234Peacekeeper Рік тому +8

      ESPN did a 30 on 30 on that

  • @cheehee808_
    @cheehee808_ Рік тому +32

    As a born and raised Hawaii fan and alum, it’s crazy how we used to be able to fill 50,000 at aloha stadium, every game there was lit 🔥. I was a senior in HS that year we beat Boise and went to the sugar bowl, was such an amazing run. Even before colt Brennan, we had Timmy Chang in the late 90s too. Sad that my alma matter is pretty much a D2 school now, local kids nowadays don’t even know anything about the glory days lol

    • @HIdefend808
      @HIdefend808 Рік тому +1

      We shall rise again #GoBows

    • @Deckotaocho
      @Deckotaocho Рік тому +5

      Brah, when Hawaii beat Boise state in Aloha stadium. *chef kiss*

    • @RockHudrock
      @RockHudrock Рік тому +2

      The Rainbows 🌈 were a phenomenal team in those days. OSU 🦫 (my team) would often play Hawaii non-conference and I think in an Aloha Bowl here and there. A lot of Hawaiian players were recruited to OSU too. Ezra Tualo for example. 🫶🏼

    • @edgaryzen4925
      @edgaryzen4925 11 місяців тому +2

      Get out!! Hawaii is a D1 school still, are you sure?!! 🤯

    • @collin9324
      @collin9324 9 місяців тому +1

      As a BSU fan … we had an off day that game

  • @alexbarcelo5094
    @alexbarcelo5094 Рік тому +29

    I grew up in SEC country but the WAC growing up did have some great games to watch.

  • @vancemic
    @vancemic Рік тому +34

    In 1985, Air Force finished 12-1, beat Texas in a bowl and finished in the Top 10 and beat Norte Dame 4 straight years in a row. The WAC had games on ESPN on late Saturday nights and they were known for the high scoring offensive games (the Wacky WAC).

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 Рік тому +4

      Yup the last true shootout league. Defense was optional. A ton of fun to watch. Always the wildest games on Saturday.

    • @jamesfields2916
      @jamesfields2916 Рік тому +1

      Air Force was good. Went 10-2 in 83 and beat my Ole Miss Rebels in the Independence Bowl.

    • @jamesfields2916
      @jamesfields2916 Рік тому +2

      Dee Dowis was an incredible option qb for Air Force. Unfortunately he was killed in an auto accident not far from my home in Buford,Ga.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Рік тому +2

      1975 Arizona State WAC Champs finished #2 in the country.....1996 BYU finished #5

    • @jamesfields2916
      @jamesfields2916 Рік тому

      They finished #5.

  • @jaggerdebusk14
    @jaggerdebusk14 Рік тому +28

    Arizona State dominated this conference when they were in it (the Frank Kush era). They are the reason the Fiesta Bowl was created, so they would get an automatic bowl bid as the WAC championship. They were also the only undefeated team in 1975 and finished 2nd in the college football rankings.

    • @pinchevulpes
      @pinchevulpes Рік тому +1

      Go devils

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 Рік тому +1

      The tie-in with the OG WAC only lasted from 74-77. The REASON the Fiesta was created was that ASU/WAC alums were ticked that there was very little room in the bowl pecking order (in 71, a top-ten ASU could only get a Peach Bowl bid, while in 68-Wyoming won the WAC, but didn't get a bowl bid)

    • @jaggerdebusk14
      @jaggerdebusk14 Рік тому

      @troyturner173 ASU won the WAC in 69 and didn't get a bowl either. ASU played in the Peach Bowl in 1970, not 1971. The tie-in started in 1971 when the first Fiesta Bowl was played. ASU made 5 as a WAC member, BYU and Wyoming made the other two.

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 Рік тому

      @@jaggerdebusk14 The Fiesta began in 72 (Missouri-ASU) You're correct that ASU played 5 as a WAC member, but the tie-in wasn't official until 74 (a condition of CBS picking up the Fiesta's first national TV broadcast)

    • @jaggerdebusk14
      @jaggerdebusk14 Рік тому +1

      @troyturner173 No. The first Fiesta Bowl was 1971. ASU vs Florida St. ASU won 45-38.

  • @danieljohnson5775
    @danieljohnson5775 Рік тому +9

    The fall of the wac was sad. Its the conference i watched the most growing up. When they expanded and split into divisions i was excited for what could be. Not only did it have a great rivalry in BYU vs Utah but Colorado st new mexico and air force brought there A game evey week. It was a fun conference to watch

  • @Eloso3135
    @Eloso3135 Рік тому +4

    UTEP fan here. Used to love being in the Sun Bowl screaming and yelling when we played Fresno State, or Boise State. Miss those WAC days.

    • @Eloso3135
      @Eloso3135 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PanteraAzul622 oh yeah!

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 Рік тому +25

    My dad had Colorado State football season tickets from the 60s to his passing in 1998. So I got to see a lot of games in Ft Collins through the 80s and 90s. My brother & I kept going to games for a few years afterwards. CSU was abysmal in the 80s and although I was maybe 11, I do remember that 1984 BYU team coming to town and just beating the snot out of CSU. In the 90s, CSU became a lot better so games were much more fun. But the WAC expansion felt like too much at the time and once they started discussing the dissolution of long time rivalries, it did seem like tradition was being squandered. CSU needs to play Wyoming and Air Force every year. Period. The MWC was a fun conference to watch from its inception and preserved the rivalries for awhile. I moved away from Colorado in early 2006 and kinda fell away from watching college football, so it's kinda crazy to hear how the WAC changed so much.

    • @aBrewster29
      @aBrewster29 Рік тому +2

      I loved going to those CSU-BYU games with Lubick growing up.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Рік тому +3

      @@aBrewster29 At least when Lubick was coaching, they had a chance against BYU! Those games in the 80s were massacres. I may still be traumatized.

    • @matthewtrauger3683
      @matthewtrauger3683 8 місяців тому

      Come on now. CSU would get crushed by an average high school team. And always would have. CSU and Wyoming are glorified community College teams.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 8 місяців тому

      @@matthewtrauger3683 There have certainly been years where that feels true.

  • @charlesallison6932
    @charlesallison6932 Рік тому +3

    Thursday night WAC games were a must after I got home from reffing JV games.

  • @hamburgermatty
    @hamburgermatty Рік тому +8

    As a Hawai’i fan, Mahalo for making the effort to properly pronounce my home state. I truly appreciate it along with the history lesson of the WAC 🤙🏻 I will always be grateful to the WAC for the many core UH memories I enjoyed growing up. Go Bows and Play Up!

    • @spankynater4242
      @spankynater4242 Рік тому

      The proper pronunciation is with a W, not a V.

    • @user-ub8uc8gq7r
      @user-ub8uc8gq7r Рік тому

      Nigga you’re Chinese. Foh saying “aloha” Ching Chong boy. You went to Taiwanese university

    • @galaxykidM5
      @galaxykidM5 2 місяці тому

      @@spankynater4242in English sure but in ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi no

  • @dcbfan1231
    @dcbfan1231 Рік тому +65

    UTEP Miners fan here. Hated to see the WAC fall when ceased to play football. This conference was great back in the day.

    • @dandanziger4596
      @dandanziger4596 Рік тому +3

      Same. Do you see any other conferences taking UTEP because Conference USA is going downhill

    • @raoularmagnac2037
      @raoularmagnac2037 Рік тому +7

      I'm a UTEP Miner fan also - from El Paso, in fact. I was always hoping that we would seek out membership in the Mountain West Confetence. And then we'd be reunited with some of our old rivals in both BASKETBALL as well as football. That would be WONDERFUL! 🏀🏈🏀

    • @WVUer21
      @WVUer21 Рік тому +3

      Steelers fan here. Sorry about Sean Kugler's head coaching tenure.

    • @markschlingloff5155
      @markschlingloff5155 Рік тому +1

      Fresno State Fan here Bulldogs were always taking a bite out of the Miners.
      Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere!!!!
      Go Dogs!

    • @bradjames891
      @bradjames891 Рік тому +3

      I was a missionary in El Paso. I love all of the El Pasoans :)

  • @jamesfields2916
    @jamesfields2916 Рік тому +2

    I grew up an ASU fan in the 70s and even living in Southern California we would not know the ASU score from Saturday until Monday morning!

  • @joshuawalton6447
    @joshuawalton6447 Рік тому +6

    I am a diehard fan of a WAC school (student at Utah Valley University) and loved this video. I think you should do a video on the current state of the WAC. We are a very good basketball conference and my UVU Wolverines had a memorable season. We beat two pac-12 schools (Oregon and Colorado) and two big 12 schools (BYU and Cincinnati). I really enjoy the WAC and embrace being a fan of a “mid-major” conference. It’s a good time to be a college sports fan. Go Wolverines!

  • @RB725GamingHD
    @RB725GamingHD Рік тому +4

    La Tech fan here, great video. My fav season was 2012, we really had momentum to go to the orange bowl for awhile. But we lost 59-57 to Texas A&M and then eventually to Utah State

  • @michaeltyler163
    @michaeltyler163 Рік тому +27

    You forgot to mention that Air Force won the WAC and was #10 in the country in 1998 with a 12-1 record. I believe that was the last yea before the split with the Mountain West Teams.

    • @porterwake3898
      @porterwake3898 Рік тому +3

      Right?? Or Air Force in 1985 could have been national champions if they had just beaten BYU in conference.

    • @ReisterJP
      @ReisterJP Рік тому

      Didn't UTEP beat BYU in 1985 UTEP's only win that year.

  • @ginomoreno5117
    @ginomoreno5117 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm a Texas A&M Aggie so I'm SEC. However, I'm a fan of college football in general. I used to LOVE Saturdays watching Game Day and starting on the east coast, watching big games ALL day and I used to tell people, "I don't go to bed until Hawaii is finsihed playing! I miss the WAC and I was very proud of the product they put on the field. They brought FUN to football.

  • @andrewwicke8031
    @andrewwicke8031 Рік тому +11

    Great video! Really enjoyed it, anytime I play the old NCAA games I like to pick the WAC teams.

    • @arcticphoenix2789
      @arcticphoenix2789 Рік тому +1

      I played as Hawaii in NCAA 10 and UTSA in NCAA 13. I won the Natty with both schools.

  • @sammyrhoads265
    @sammyrhoads265 Рік тому +7

    I’d love to see this with the OG super conference of the 1920s SoCon

    • @kyleb5169
      @kyleb5169 Рік тому

      No kidding! They birthed both the SEC and ACC!!

  • @haroldrayfield3971
    @haroldrayfield3971 Рік тому +2

    Great mini-documentary. Well done.

  • @markschlingloff5155
    @markschlingloff5155 Рік тому +1

    Hell yeah, The WAC was home for the Fresno State Bulldogs.
    The Greatest game I seen The Dogs win, The Freedom Bowl against USC.
    Cool upload.
    Thanks for the video.
    Go Dogs!

  • @adriansmith5279
    @adriansmith5279 Рік тому +4

    Shoutout to JKJ on this video. Your right about the WAC not being the first but probably not the last league that folded. Because a lot of us are looking at the PAC 12 all together!

    • @kyleb5169
      @kyleb5169 Рік тому

      Southwest Conference folded as well and had some pretty good teams but a lot of corruption and of course SMU and the death penalty in 1984. It had Texas, SMU, Baylor, Texas Tech, Arkansas, etc...

  • @Lfg117
    @Lfg117 2 місяці тому

    Early 70s fb vid u showed was AzSt, in 2nd-half, decisively outplaying UNC, enroute to a 48-26 win in 1970 Peach Bowl. Game was
    played in record-cold (for that date in Atlanta history) on a night featuring freezing rain & snow falling during the game. Thank u for an accurate summary of 1970s Western Athletic Conference history. 🔥

  • @sohamsorathia74
    @sohamsorathia74 Рік тому +7

    Great video, I was always curious as to how so many 'david' type teams were in the WAC and then open up NCAA 13 to find the conference hanging by a thread

  • @ricardotrevino2775
    @ricardotrevino2775 Рік тому +2

    UTEP fan here. The WAC was known for high scoring games. If there were streaming services like ESPN+ back in the day this conference would have survived.

  • @ZakAttak38
    @ZakAttak38 Рік тому +1

    I was a UTEP fan during their final years in the WAC. I will never forget how dominant Boise State was every year when they played and utterly crush UTEP in the process.

  • @TalledagaCS
    @TalledagaCS Рік тому +4

    Great video, I loved watching it as a Fresno State fan. I always hated Boise State, and even hearing about their dominance back then, it still for some reason pisses me off even though I was 8 lmao

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Рік тому +1

      The reality is BSU has needed to be in a P5 conference. They are arguably one of the most dominating programs in the history of the game. Even before they joined Division 1.
      Boise State has national titles in every single other level of the sport, and set career win records in at level of the sport.
      In 97 years they have had a grand total of 3 losing seasons..... ever....and are the only Division 1 team to not have a losing season in the 21st century.
      Im not even a BSU fan, but god dam that is unbeatable levels of success.
      Its crazy to think that for how amazing Petersen was at Boise State, by career record he ranks 4th all time..... Their best coach ever went 151-18-1.... I dont think thats even beatable, especially not in todays game.

  • @idahocougarfan9511
    @idahocougarfan9511 Рік тому +3

    BYU has come a long way and is now going to be a Big 12 member

  • @bennadler6374
    @bennadler6374 Рік тому +2

    Glad I've just found your channel! Hope to see more great content soon!

  • @justice85151
    @justice85151 Рік тому +5

    You have to do a MAC conference one now. The MAC conference has had some of the greatest mid major teams of all time. Some of the greatest coaches of all time played have coached in the conference . Some in the likes of John Harbaugh, Nick Sabin, Sean McVey and many more.

    • @michaelsamuel9841
      @michaelsamuel9841 Рік тому +3

      Randy moss Jason Taylor

    • @ryanrzjr
      @ryanrzjr Рік тому +2

      One problem would be the MAC is alive & well. They may not be thriving, but they could be like CUSA, who’s basically dead.

    • @willl604
      @willl604 Рік тому +1

      MAC is doing fine tho, there's little danger of them leaving, and they're one of the healthiest conferences in G5. Plus ESPN brought back MACtion

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 Рік тому +6

    Lots of late Saturday nights in the wild wac from BYU to Marshall Faulk, Tomlinson, June Jones' Hawaii teams to Boise State and Pat Hill's anytime anywhere Fresno squads. It stinks that they suffer from conference realignment.
    Hopefully Conference USA video will be up. Another conference with a lot of volatility.

  • @ChristineCAlb1
    @ChristineCAlb1 Рік тому

    U of New Mexico fan/alumna here. It was always a challenge when our basketball teams went up against BYU. Also I remember going to some football games against Hawaii, and was always amazed at the number of U of H fans that showed up.

  • @BD-1-And-Only
    @BD-1-And-Only Рік тому +12

    As a BYU fan, it’s insane that they went from unranked in the preseason to national champion. I’m also a TCU fan and I almost saw it happen again with them.

    • @straddlecakes
      @straddlecakes Рік тому +1

      Right, BYU "won" the national championship against a depleted and injured 6-6 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl. They didn't have to face off against Florida or Washington, both much better teams with only one loss each. One of those teams would have absolutely blasted them. They only beat 2 teams with 7 wins. What a sham "championship."

    • @kennethreedy5258
      @kennethreedy5258 Рік тому

      Amen to that. Absolute clownery.

    • @kennethreedy5258
      @kennethreedy5258 Рік тому

      65-7 is hardly "almost"

    • @BD-1-And-Only
      @BD-1-And-Only Рік тому

      @@kennethreedy5258 I’m not talking about the national championship I’m talking about the season as a whole

    • @BD-1-And-Only
      @BD-1-And-Only Рік тому

      @@straddlecakes Bitter grapes

  • @spankynater4242
    @spankynater4242 Рік тому +2

    I am still mourning the loss of the Southwest Conference.

  • @dantheman6441
    @dantheman6441 Рік тому +2

    first video I've seen of yours, really loved it! would enjoy more conference breakdowns. subbed!

  • @giancarlotorres3520
    @giancarlotorres3520 Рік тому +1

    Living In Boise since 2007. It is wild the fandom here. When we moved, they played the Fiesta Bowl on loop at wal mart for years and years. It’ll be interesting to see what they do now with all these realignments.

    • @Nobody-kg8md
      @Nobody-kg8md Рік тому +1

      Sadly Boise State is on the outside looking in- football is their only coveted asset by the P5, their academics are completely lacking, which is what conferences regard as a dealbreaker.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Рік тому

      @@Nobody-kg8md But yet they will turn around and act like the conferences are put together based on actual skill in the sport....

  • @RebelReindeer
    @RebelReindeer Рік тому +1

    The WAC was fun, but sometimes tormenting as a Fresno State fan. We would beat big schools like Wisconsin and #10 at-the-time Oregon State in 2001, then end up falling to Boise State every season. Weird thing is once we joined the Mountain West we started beating Boise and have won several conference championships since joining.
    Aside from football, the best moment for me was our baseball team winning the 2008 College World Series as a member of the WAC.

  • @badebw
    @badebw Рік тому +1

    Great work

  • @Erik_C_
    @Erik_C_ Рік тому +9

    Appreciate you putting this together! I wish you could’ve provided some more detail on the drama that ensued between the Mountain West and the WAC, especially in 2010. BYU at the time was looking to leave the mountain west for the WAC. Utah’s athletic director caught wind of the plan and alerted the Mountain West commissioner about BYU’s plan to join the WAC along with San Diego State, UNLV and Gonzaga. The Mountain West responded by adding Fresno and Nevada from the WAC which basically killed BYU’s hopes of rejoining a revitalized WAC.

    • @That1PlaceBehindTheBush
      @That1PlaceBehindTheBush Рік тому +4

      Interesting. This adds a lot of perspective as to why BYU doesn’t want Utah in the Big 12

  • @BryantWilliams-d3j
    @BryantWilliams-d3j Місяць тому

    Lot of great football players came from this overlooked, underappreciated conference...

  • @jordans4827
    @jordans4827 Рік тому +1

    I liked saying "WAC" when talking football. The new version of "UAC" doesnt have the same ring. BRING BACK WAC!!! Thank you for your video.

  • @shanestanton8
    @shanestanton8 Рік тому +6

    10:10, they ran a hook and lateral to convert a 4th and 18 and get the td to force overtime with 5-10 seconds left in regulation. To get the win in overtime, they ran a Statue of Liberty play

  • @kaielkins6375
    @kaielkins6375 11 місяців тому

    oh to have been alive for the 80’s and 90’s byu. being an ‘02 kid has made me lose a lot of hope for the program. hoping the Big 12 era will be good for us

  • @CreightonRabs
    @CreightonRabs Рік тому +2

    I'd be interested in seeing your take on the rise and fall of the Big East as a football conference. Because there seem to be so many similarities between the WAC and Big East.

  • @stevestewart4187
    @stevestewart4187 Рік тому +3

    The good ole days. Man I fear for the future of CFB 😢

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter Рік тому +1

      You and me both. Too many people want to focus on the money and forget about the people. They seem to forget that these athletes are STUDENTS. And I cannot emphasize that enough. While yes, a lot of the top level athletes may be skirting by academically, most of the second string players and lower on the depth chart have to worry about their education because they likely have no shot at the NFL.
      College football isn't the NFL. It is SCHOOL sports and must be treated as such.

  • @James_A_Bailey87
    @James_A_Bailey87 Рік тому +1

    I remember there being a lot of talk about Montana joining back in 2009-2010 timeframe.

  • @JordanO317
    @JordanO317 Місяць тому

    It’s crazy how the landscape of football changes so drastically in such little time. I never knew BYU was a football powerhouse… I caught the end of Boise’s reign… now both schools are significantly average and are in larger conferences. I will say BYU does put out some pros

  • @lukeontheplains
    @lukeontheplains Рік тому +1

    Great stuff!

  • @hdoghillyer8932
    @hdoghillyer8932 Рік тому +6

    I went to every single game Colin Kaepernick played during his senior season with Nevada. It was such a magical time and it showed that the WAC was a under appreciated conference.
    The Mountain West has nothing on the old WAC.

    • @spankynater4242
      @spankynater4242 Рік тому +1

      I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences.

    • @RyanPatton
      @RyanPatton Рік тому

      As a Louisiana Tech fan, I still can't wipe my memory of watching Kaepernick break a few tackles and fake going out-of-bounds to convert a 20+ yard TD on 4th-and-9 and take a commanding lead in the 4th quarter back in 2010 I think it was. That guy was really frustrating to watch (on the other team) but really, really impressive.

    • @gregpayton6935
      @gregpayton6935 Рік тому

      Before he turned into a social justice warrior and turned on his white parents. Sad he turned into a sorry piece of 💩.

  • @ColeAdams
    @ColeAdams Рік тому

    Stellar video man this provided me so much nostalgia

    • @JKJ002
      @JKJ002  Рік тому

      Thank you Cole! Glad to see you back uploading

  • @dfoleyusa
    @dfoleyusa Рік тому

    I was at Utah during peak WAC - it was a perfect scrappy underdog mega conference. Way ahead of it’s time but without the prestige, contract $’s and geography doomed to failure. Still the memories are fond.

  • @MrRiddler6
    @MrRiddler6 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised there was barely a mention of Fresno State. any of the conferences wins over BCS schools came from them. sure, they never got as Boise did, but they were up there as the top 2-3 schools in the conference's history.

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 Рік тому

      In 2001 Fresno State won at Wisconsin. Won at Colorado (the Big 12 champs) beat Oregon State who was in the top 5 the previous year. The Bulldogs were on their way to a major bowl until Boise State upset them in Fresno. That's when Boise State became famous

    • @MrRiddler6
      @MrRiddler6 Рік тому

      @mongoslade277 see. My point exactly. They did an awful lot for the conference. But you wouldn't know that from this video. Hawaii got mentioned more and they only had one good season. Where they went unbeaten in the regular season before getting destroyed my Georgia in the Sugar Bowl

  • @HiddenHistoryYT
    @HiddenHistoryYT Рік тому +1

    Nice, never knew about this

  • @kennethmayner
    @kennethmayner Рік тому +4

    Do the craziness of Conference USA or the rise of The American.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. 2 місяці тому

    Grew up in 90s-00s in/around Knoxville, TN. Big time SEC country. Grew up an FSU fan funnily enough, as I like a mostly consistent winner. Cough UT. Anywho lol. I still followed UT and the SEC of course. But also had family in New Mexico. So I also followed what happened in the WAC and with UNM. The WAC definitely had some talent going for them for a few years. I liked many of the rivalries of the WAC.

  • @baugh3162
    @baugh3162 Рік тому +1

    @10:28 The Hook and Lateral was to score the TD...The Statue of Liberty was the 2 pointer that won them the game

  • @GrubWarp
    @GrubWarp Рік тому

    WAC football on Versus was legendary 😅

  • @olivianatwick7603
    @olivianatwick7603 Рік тому

    Your video on the rise and fall of the wac conference is by no means complete. Back in the 60s University of Wyoming was one of the dominant teams in the wac and had risen in 1968 to the number three ranking in college football. Wyoming then participated in the Sugar Bowl in 1969. That was back when Arizona and Arizona State byu-utah CSU and other former wac teams were still together.

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer4799 Рік тому +2

    overexpansion from 8 teams to 16 teams killed off the wac.

  • @johnshoemaker234
    @johnshoemaker234 Рік тому

    This was as a very good video about the WAC history

  • @johnhebert3855
    @johnhebert3855 Рік тому +2

    I love the teams in the old WAC, perpetual underdogs in the Rocky Mountain region. You would usually see them late, as the last game on Saturday evenings. We lived in Utah from 1983 to 1985, at the pinnacle of WAC play. 1984 was the last great year in College Football. Never again will we see a team come out of nowhere to win a National Championship, only one of 4 or 5 top programs will from now on. No fun.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Рік тому +1

      Boise State nearly did it in 2010 despite the league making it impossible for them to make it. But a 36-0 record with multiple wins over the team in 2nd plus 4 Top 25 wins that season including another win over a different P5 conference champ was going to force the selection as much as the P5 was screaming to not let them in.
      If only they didnt choke and miss three FGs.
      If Brotzman didnt miss (heck if Brotzman didnt miss 3 FGs Boise State would have gone 53-0), its very likely that college football would be an incredibly different sport today, as I simply do not see Auburn beating that Boise State team even with Cam Newton. Auburn simply did not have the defense, and even if you say BSU's #2 ranked defense was overrated, their #2 ranked offense certainly wasnt....

  • @skidawg22
    @skidawg22 Рік тому

    My alma mater is UMKC, which was one of the non-football schools that joined the WAC. Our only basketball postseason experience came as a WAC school. We eventually returned to the Summit League, which makes more sense geographically. Coincidentally, another brief recent member of the WAC was Lamar University - my parents' alma mater.

  • @_Itsuki1
    @_Itsuki1 Місяць тому

    1 Year Anniversary Of This Video! ❤

  • @ajrichards1190
    @ajrichards1190 Рік тому +2

    I think the formation of the Mountain West Conference destroyed the WAC slowly.

  • @toomanyhobbies8351
    @toomanyhobbies8351 Рік тому +1

    The WAC was great!

  • @drhouse6165
    @drhouse6165 Рік тому

    The Hook n Ladder was the play Boise used to score a late td. The 2 point conversion was a statue of liberty in OT

  • @_kingdan
    @_kingdan Рік тому

    That’s crazy I play at Tulsa and I never knew we played against these schools

  • @ralphwilliams2396
    @ralphwilliams2396 Рік тому

    Thanks for always wondered what happened

  • @nm0042
    @nm0042 Рік тому

    This will be its 3rd season back but first with an being fully united with ASUN. The last two seasons they had the WAC-ASUN challenge which was similar. It’s to give them an auto bid to the playoffs as each conference alone doesn’t have enough teams for that.

  • @Gl6619
    @Gl6619 Рік тому +1

    I went to Utah in ‘84…when BYU won the title…I only stayed two quarters…our out of conference games that season was Tennessee and Wash St…I played a couple of downs against New Mexico…I almost sacked Buddy Funk but I bounce off him…dude was only 30lbs lighter than me…kinda embarrassing….I walked away from football two years later after playing at Glendale (CA)….i was never into football like I was baseball..but I sucked at batting…

  • @dbryan1688
    @dbryan1688 Рік тому +1

    Rice won the College World Series for the WAC, too.

  • @Lfg117
    @Lfg117 2 місяці тому

    ASU's 48-26 '70 PeachBowl win vs UNC was>winning '71 FiestaBowl. '77 ASU shared* WAC fb title w BYU.

  • @scottwhiting3716
    @scottwhiting3716 Рік тому +1

    Once again zona ASU BYU and Utah is in the same conference
    TTU TCU Baylor and Houston is in the same conference
    Colorado KU Kansas state and the cyclones is All in the same conference
    Fascinating

  • @zjshredz2774
    @zjshredz2774 Рік тому

    i remember going to UH games in the early 2010’s shit was awesome

  • @texasrangers4
    @texasrangers4 Рік тому

    great video

  • @porterwake3898
    @porterwake3898 Рік тому

    Wow no love at all for some of the incredible Air Force teams. Namely 85 and 98.

  • @Christian-fn6yu
    @Christian-fn6yu Рік тому

    Great stuff my good sir

  • @thedorman3419
    @thedorman3419 Рік тому

    I love your videos!!!

  • @BiggyLittles
    @BiggyLittles Рік тому

    LT was a beast

  • @ryangabbert3646
    @ryangabbert3646 Рік тому

    Amazing video.

  • @Law0086
    @Law0086 Рік тому +1

    A small part of me is glad you didn't include any of Fresno's accolades in this video.

  • @Ayala-99
    @Ayala-99 2 місяці тому

    BYU ❤

  • @TheSenzuBeanPlug
    @TheSenzuBeanPlug Рік тому +1

    Can you do the rise of the Sun Belt

  • @JohnDry-d7z
    @JohnDry-d7z Місяць тому

    Looks like there is about to be a Power 3 with 20 schools. B10, SEC, and the B12.

  • @christopherfoote4643
    @christopherfoote4643 Рік тому

    Western Athletic Conference is actually still around. It might have been reclassified as an FCS conference I think it still lives. Western Athletic Conference. It's still around

  • @25dramamomma
    @25dramamomma Рік тому

    could you do a video on the rise, fall, and hopeful resurgence of Southern Miss football?

  • @cemsity
    @cemsity Рік тому +1

    Welp you might want to do the PAC-10/12 now

  • @elosogonzalez8739
    @elosogonzalez8739 Рік тому

    I can certainly understand not mentioning the UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO, but NOT ONE MENTION OF ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER PLAY THE GAME OF FOOTBALL. BRIAN URLACHER, The man was absolutely BADASS!!! He played Offense, Defense, he kicked extra points, he three touchdowns. THE GUY WAS ALL WORLD!!! Years with the Chicago Bears and a future spot in Canton, Ohio. At the Pro football Hall of Fame. I can understand not a single mention of the LOBOS, But to overlook Urlachers accomplishments is a travesty!

  • @Madmun357
    @Madmun357 Рік тому

    WAC basketball in the 80s was GREAT.

    • @gregpayton6935
      @gregpayton6935 Рік тому

      Seeing Tim Hardaway in the 91 WAC tourney was awesome.

  • @ericthomas917
    @ericthomas917 Рік тому

    You had conferences called the WAC, the MAC, and the MEAC

  • @TheMan750
    @TheMan750 Рік тому

    Most people love change, and complain when it doesn’t happen, and when it does happen, same people complain, to be honest, if we want the best teams to play each other every week, this is one of the only options.

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter Рік тому

      No. We need to stop seeing it from a "best teams playing each other perspective" and look at it from not only a logistics perspective, but an academic one too. How quickly we are forgetting that these are STUDENTS! We may see the top players as borderline NFL stars, but most aren't and most will get normal jobs like the rest of us. As such, they need an EDUCATION first and foremost.

  • @mringram
    @mringram Рік тому

    Informative

  • @GeoAce777
    @GeoAce777 Рік тому

    Colorado State was #14 in '00 🐏 I want to see Wyoming reappear in the AP 25 at some point 🤠

  • @wyocowboynblue9011
    @wyocowboynblue9011 Рік тому

    The first WAC team to play a new years bowl was Wyoming in the 966 (Jan. 1, 1967) Sugar Bowl. Lost to LSU 20 to 13.

  • @justinmccurry9633
    @justinmccurry9633 Рік тому +1

    So please tell me that I’m not the only one who saw the guy at 1:50 bottom row third from the right

  • @justinsuggs1258
    @justinsuggs1258 Рік тому

    Yes please do the BIG EAST!

  • @thomassteele9649
    @thomassteele9649 Рік тому

    I used to hold season tickets to WAC games on the west coast. Every other game, I'd bring a sign supporting my favorite athlete, but one day, they started banning me from bringing signs. I thought this was ridiculous...or WHACK, if you'd pardon the pun.
    It was from that day forward I set forth on my quest for vengeance, to destroy the WAC once and for all. I'm proud to sit back and enjoy the fruits of my labor.

  • @AHomelessShoe
    @AHomelessShoe Рік тому +2

    The power 5 conferences are showing that college sports now only care about the money.