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I do like the idea that Henry and Ellie's fates are so tied together that the ONE time Henry tries to leave behind and ignore Ellie, he is heavily punished and is left with the most ambiguous ending
Sven Svenson (the Toppat Leader in all of the GSPI endings) says that there are multiple divisions in the Toppat Clan, and Henry only met the Airship Division, so Ellie could have met one of the other divisions before going to The Wall.
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 What if the Punk Biker Gang used to be members of the Toppat Clan, but got betrayed by the leaders of all the Toppat Divisions just like Henry did in the "The Betrayed" ending?
I'd say that sums it up! Stick a wig on Henry. Swap the Diamond for the Emerald. And replace the Airship/Toppats with ____/Punks, and you have her backstory!
I find that unlikely due to 1) A member of the CCC is imprisoned at The Wall 2) The Wall appears to be Russian, and the CCC appears to be either American or independent of any country. Edit: UA-cam put this under the wrong comment.
@@wta1518 In number 1, you're talking about the CCC guy seen cowering by a rock during the prison riot in FtC, right? According to his bio card, he's actually the Wall's CCC liaison whose goal is to get the Wall priority during chaos incidents.
The Ellie Rose Collection: Breaching the Vault Circumvent the Containment Crashing the Casino Accessing the Submarine Fleeing the Complex Completing the Mission
I am not sure how AtS would work. Since ItA and FtC are the most important and the endings you got all comes back with CtM. While AtS would be unimportant. What if she became the leader? That would be completely unimportant because she would meet Henry and leave all of her bonds with her organization. That would just be a case of bad story-telling because an important part of the story is just completly ignored.
Puffballs actually talked about how their was a scrapped side story for Ellie in the collection in which you would play as her in the top hat clan to see how she ended up in the wall. It was scrapped due to the fact it would mean the game would take another year and it was hard to incorporate into completing the mission.
@@cutedogsweetsugar It was in Puffballs’ developer commentary videos. You can find it on his channel where he plays through he entire series while talking about the development process. It’s hours long so no clue there exact time he mentions it.
@DanThunder I'm not completely dismissing the idea that they may in fact be unrelated, but what if they were just born in different places? People often have relatives who live in different countries, and Jacob could've immigrated.
Ellie Rose my favorite character after Henry. Why PuffballsUnited just won't tell us about her past and after the events ! Her story is very interesting!
Wolf wolf woof I love Henry and Ellie the same still I do not know which one to love More PS I love how Eli is more daring than Henry because if you read the bio of Ellry? It says it has the braveness of Eli and the luck of Henry yeeeee
Imagine if in Ellie's hypothetical version of Stealing the Diamond there's some inconsequential background character with Stickmin as their last name, who we can't find a way to tie back to Henry...
Jacob rose having colored hair makes me think that they are related rather than just having the same last name, plus in EtP they did everything they could to remove ties to Ellie so I don't think it was a oversight
@@zacoyunda2001 I see that you've encountered Puff's devcom Twitch Stream aswell (honestly, alot of the confirmed facts are so... absurd, with my favorites such as Charles & Dave's surnames were originally fanon (a fanfic and wiki-edit respectively) and Puff decided to roll with it and make it canon, Ellie was supposed to be a Toppat that helped overthrow Suave with Reg and Right, and Rupert's canonicaly thinning-which has made 30% of the fanbase go on a short yet entertaining twitter civil war).
While I believe Puffballs when he says there will never be a spin-off. It is still notable that this isn’t exactly the first time he’s said this, The Henry stickman series has already had a few “last” games in the past
Maybe puff’s last game before he retire is going to be a actual final of henry stickmin to pay respect to the game that made him popular since he was already popular way before among us
I have a theory: Ellie was a recruit from the biker gang, Ellie Stole The Emerald alone without help and took it to the gang, but the Tophat Clan saw her stealing the emerald and followed her, so after that Ellie was accused of making the Clan follow her So the gang kicked her out and after that the whole gang went to The Wall including Ellie PS: Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian
I like your comment, The Weird Person Man :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)
Henry: the ability, no brains Ellie: no ability, the brains Charles: the helicopter, no good great plans Ability=can do it Brains=smart Helicopter=greatest plan
Charles is more of a concrete character in the series, part of the Government which is an established faction we can join, just like Reginald is in the Toppat Clan which is a different established faction to possibly join. No characters in the separate established factions are shown to possess the abilities Henry and Ellie have.
For an Ellie spinoff that isn't backstory, I typically picture a version of her in the Special BROvert Ops path. Henry never betrayed her and ends up in his best possible place that doesn't involve working with her, so it basically frees up possibilities for what she'd be up to.
Something I really like about Ellie is that they didn't try and force anything romantic between her and Henry. It subverted my expectations, as I assumed that they would end up with some sort of interaction(s) that would indicate them as becoming closer than friends. While I do really enjoy romantic subplots at times in games and media, I'm almost glad that they didn't try and force anything between them last minute. This is why I love this series so much.
It's still implied that Henry has feelings for Ellie. When you choose the super speed option in Fleeing the Complex, he attempts to pick up Ellie in a romantic bridal carry position.
Considering that Jacob Rose talks with Ted McAdams, someone who is important in Henry's first step in his story, it could be possible that Jacob is involved somehow in the first step in Ellie's story. (This might also mean something for Kurt Dietrich considering he talks with Dave Panpa but I don't know if that would really matter)
you mentioned one time that ellie was able to use the force, and I love that little idea, that people have abilities from random pop-culture media, such as Henry being an Earthbender, and being able to metal bend. It makes me wonder what powers exist in this universe.
I could understand PuffBallsUnited. Sometimes the greatest Stories are best untold. And as a creator he probably lost interest, or hit the creative wall. Plus he probably, thinks it's better to have a fans build up Ellie Rose's story arch, then creating a whole new game explaining how Ellie ended up in the Complex to begin with.
Here's an interesting thought, in fleeing the complex, when you choose the knee in convict allies, henry could leave without ellie and flee the complex all by his self, but the fail screen still comes up suggesting that the connection could be closer than we thought
10:14 I have a theory on the Tunisian Diamond being stolen by the Toppats: they DID stole it, they mayor (that we later discover he's with the Toppats) made a fake story in which he (or someone else) managed to retrive back the Diamond, while in reality he just used for... i dunno... votes? But then Henry stole it and that explain why he's not entitled "Mayor" in CtM bios.
No no no, It is later revealed that he is a TOPPAT. The news didn't know that Henry stole it, self-explanatory if you do, Unseen Burglar. Just Plain Epic, the Museum was destroyed and no one alive who actually KNEW Henry stole it so they could inform so. And for Intruder on a Scooter, well, since Henry fell ppl thought Henry died so there was no use Actually informing this news.
@@DroneDashRBLX_inf i said something completely diffrent: I'm saying that Alice (the news reporter) is right, so... WHEN did the Toppats stole the diamond? Before STD.
Well henry stole the diamond and then Henry becomes a toppat so I guess that’s why it says that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the toppats stole the diamond xnsusxxxx$ fd f a
15:13 gotta agree on this one, their music themes are so hecking similar! the only difference is that ellie's theme is more of a ""female style" while henry's is more of a "boy's style" and i absolutely love it!
My headxanon using this as a jumping off point, Jacob Rose (her brother in my eyes) dared Ellie to steal something from another museum to prove that museum security was terrible after Henry stole the diamond from his museum.
Now you've got me thinking. There is another character, one who can seemingly pull impossible things out of thin air one, and is capable of preforming a combination attack with Henry. The one, the only, the Right Hand Man. "But all his stuff is just because he's a cyborg!" I hear you protest. I will let the Right Hand Man himself answer this one: "You fool! Did you really think my Spirit was a result of my augmentations?" Yes, you could say most of the stuff he pulled when he was a cyborg were tied to his augmentations, but the same could be said for Henry when _he_ was turned into a cyborg, couldn't it?
He also manages to pull a verity of items out of nowhere when you fight him in ItA. They’re admittedly still mostly things he would likely be in possession of, but if still doesn’t explain how he suddenly gets a minigun or summons a mirror. You could argue that it’s Henry’s choices that influence the abilities of those around him, such as how both the fusion dance and earthbend lead to him fighting someone with similar skills, but at the same time those characters still have explanations of their abilities in their bios, which RHM doesn’t. It’s also interesting that while Henry fights several opponents in the style of other games, (Mr Macbeth with Undertale, Night guards Tim and Joe with Pokemon, the Advanced Wars/Fire Emblem section of FtC etc.), these characters always use the weapons that they were seen to have before hand, whereas RHM doesn’t
No, it's pretty clear he's done with it, he want to do other things than keeping on the same universe all his career and it's clear that Completing the Mission is meant to be the true end of the series. People should accept this rather than clinging on false hopes of "maybe he'll change his mind".
Ima guess he is tired of these characters, but maybe he could incorporate these characters into a FPS or make a DLC for among us to change among us characters into a selection of stickmin characters
@@beanlets You can pretty much already do that with all the cosmetics, I don't think it's worth it to re-do a sprite sheet with every crewmate's action with stick figures. Also the good thing about the Among Us crewmates is that their colors is clearly visible which wouldn't be the case with stick figures so it wouldn't work to replace the Among Us characters by stick figures.
@@boyopoyo3146 he says that in the video that in the toppat civil war path, when Henry abandons her in the wall, she not only breaks out by herself, but also infiltrates the toppat airship without Henry’s help, suggesting that she has a similar set of skills and abilities as Henry
Here's the someone Theory Ellie did NOT flees the complex. Maybe she was released to find Henry, who escaped from complex. I don't know if anyone else wrote this theory. If there is, I haven't seen him. But 6:30 disproves that theory
I really do love Ellie and I'm so happy to see a detailed theory about what Ellie's past might be like and it was super enjoyable to see you point out how similar she is to Henry and how perfect of a match they are for each other Also a collection of Ellie doing a similar quest to Henry and having her own gang to infiltrate I'm excited for Crashing the Casino.
I would love to hear a remix that combines Ellie's theme and Press Start. Maybe that could be the new "Ellry faction" theme that we see a few times in completing the mission. Also the only backstory I wanna know is where the wall came from.
perhaps Jacob Rose is like Dave Panpa, having a minor role in almost every scenario Ellie appears in. This is pretty unlikely though. A more plausible theory is that there's someone out there with the last name Stickmin that isn't Henry, who appears at some point in Ellie's life and never again.
As a Henry Stickmin fan, I actually have my own backstory: So, Ellie had a family, but something was torn apart with her parents, and her dad was a criminal, while her mom was just a housewife. She found out that Ellie’s dad was a criminal, she divorced him, and at this time, she were probably in her teens or mid-adults. So, Ellie found out, and then she started to have irregular opinions about him, whether or not he was good or not, then she started to go to college, then she dropped out to live with her mom after her dad moved out of the house, but after an argument with her mom she decided to be a criminal, then thats where her story is parallel to Henry’s now. Then, after the Infiltration of the Airship, the 4th episode which will be Ellie’s, is now sent to the Wall and that’s how she met up with Henry. This might be not an exact opinion, but I talked about her and her family and how she turned into a criminal. Edit: Jacob is not related to Ellie as of 1/8/20 in one of PuffBall’s live stream’s, so I’m editing the comment
Her synchronicity with Henry is really what opens up the character to me. I have never seen this level of sync in my entire life, considering that they've only met for 2 games, Henry's caveat which is not speaking much, and yet they pull off fusions, combos, and other sh¡t. Some people keep saying that she's just female henry but I digress: She is her own character that simply works so well with Henry.
6:13 hold up, look at that bio. The warden of the wall says to Henry there has not been an incident at the wall in fifty years... so how did that happen?
The only path we see him is triple threat, which follows convict allies, meaning he escapee during the same outbreak that Henry and ellie escaped on, it's literally mentioned in the end of the bio
That's kinda strange indeed :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)
It also worth noting that when you load up the save when you going to rob the emrald, you landed on the plank and got shot by Ellie meaning that somehow, Ellie has to do something with the emrald at some point.
Okay so let me explain further. While Jacob is not a perfect copy of Charles, he is the one who initially turned Ellie into the Government and accompanied her on her mission to deal with the German Punk Gang.
I feel like Jacob's role in Ellie's story is the same as the guy he was talking to from Henry's. Once again it can be considered a 'where 2 paths meet' situation so maybe it applies to more than just Henry and Ellie.
Henry Breaks into Bank 1 hour later Ellie breaks into bank 1 hour later Henry escapes jail 1 minute later Ellie escapes jail 1 year later Henry Steals Diamond 💎 (The museum got new diamond) Ellie steals diamond 💎 1 year later Henry Infiltrates a airship 1 moment later Ellie does the same thing Both ending up in Complex Henry and Ellie work together to escape (What’s next?)
A small detail I really like is that in Infiltrating the Airship Henry can metalbend and in Fleeing the Complex he can earthbend, and in a similar fashion Ellie uses the force in both Fleeing the Complex and Completing the Mission
I agree with the whole Ellie has the same life path as Henry. I think while Henry has insane luck, Ellie then has insane fierceness. Parallel lives but differing abilities.
I'd like to imagine, that while Henry was stealing the diamond, and was in the same area as Jacob Rose, Ellie was stealing her own thing, while in the same area as a female with the last name Stickmin, just to have things match in their lives even more.
By my guess for this Jacob Rose. He would Ellie's brother. Like Ellie is the black sheep [a criminal girl that relies only on herself than her own family and goes on her criminal spree] and Jacob is the nice cheering guy [cares for his family deeply, respects the laws and justice with pretty much how he got the work as a security guard]. I think Jacob doesn't talk about Eliie because they might consider him as an accomplice. But he still thinks of his sister, his OLD sister he used to love.
13:45 actually I think the reason Henry’s plan worked is because they both understand Henry the best where as Henry understands both of them and vice versa but Charles and Ellie are friends, can work well together, but in the end work nowhere near as well as they do with Henry, they trust him so they would follow his plan best
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my Ellie's Story headcanon: I'll call her equavelent to BTB a small heist or something, a little crime that gets her put in a small prison. She escapes the prison like Henry does. Then comes Attacking the Museum. Ellie is told by her cousin Jacob Rose to attack an enemy museum, with the Emerald in it. Basically she steals the Emerald and bankrupts the museum. Let's assume that Ellie lives in Germany. The German biker gang mentioned in the video steals Ellie's emerald. Ellie then has to either infiltrate or join them to get her emerald back. Before The Wall The bikers are found out by the government and they either rat out Ellie or betray her. Because of this, only one gang member is captured because of their help. Ellie and the gang member are transferred to The Wall (in whatever country Henry lives in) and Ellie is marked as highly dangerous and lucky so she is put in a cell with Henry.
I would say that Charles is chill because after The rapidly promoted executive ending Charles didnt got mad but ellie got mad because he betrayed her so The most chill character and loyal in Henry stickmin is Charles
I don’t know, I’m trying to have a theory about what is Jacob Rose’s significance. Maybe, meanwhile Ellie stole the emerald, Henry stole the diamond and Jacob knew that his sister (or his cousin) was a thief, and was on the museum, waiting for her so he could stop her, but he didn’t knew what she was going to steal. He assumed she’ll steal the diamond but she didn’t. Henry did. (I’ll add more to this theory soon)
Ideas for "sequels" for CTM Instead of another full game we could have shorter ones based on endings we got in CTM (not all of them obviously) like the length of a single ending in std i think that'd probably be the best of both worlds for both fans that prefer one ending and it creates easily digestible content
I still remember playing the first flash game of puffballs of "blowing up bank" where i first time saw the options and had a lot of fun. Never in a million years i thought there will be a full on dedicated series and an actual last game that wraps up everything that has led up to that point. Also, i still remember replaying "fleeing the complex" and every single other game puffballs had, like a madman. Until i got bored and was busy with life and forgot all about them. But hey, they released the game and slapped me in the face with nostalgia and here i am after a full "completing the mission" henry stickmin collection game, and i am proud they actually stuck with it and even improved it.
I believe Jacob Rose might be a family member, like a brother perhaps. Probably not too important for her story, but I believe him to be her brother that went quite a different route then Ellie did.
Thanks for all the love on these Stickmin videos (both references and theories!)
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You kinda sound like Swanky box
no cap
Btw “eypizanos” is probably “Hey, Pizanos!” From the Super Mario Bros Super Show.
I know how Jacob is related to Ellie:
Jacob is Ellie’s Brother
By the way have you seen Jacob rose he’s a night guard for stealing the diamond he’ s somehow related to Ellie
I don’t think she stole the Emerald I think she stole a gold
Hypothetically if there ever was a "The Ellie Rose collection", The Force should be Ellie's version of the recurring Teleporter option!
Agreed. Love your videos btw
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I do like the idea that Henry and Ellie's fates are so tied together that the ONE time Henry tries to leave behind and ignore Ellie, he is heavily punished and is left with the most ambiguous ending
Even the game is unsure.
Mission complete?
I mean, it isn’t the one time he tries to leave Ellie behind considering the other 3 ghost inmate endings
When they said: **Ellie will remember that.** They really did meant it.
But reggie and rhm also die in that ending
I found the proof on henry stickmin wiki
What do you mean one time? That is the only ending related to Ghost inmate that Ellie gets revenge
There is also another big diference between Henry and Ellie: Ellie wil never uunderstand The Greatest Plan
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Henry has charles
That is so true
*in the distance* This is the greatest plaaaaaaan!
Puff: no more henry-realeted things.
the new among us map: Bonjour
@Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More!
Shh, don't ruin the joke.
hey what are we talking about?
it would be cool if they added the airship from infltrating the airship to among us
@Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More! How oblivious can you get
@Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More! maybe it is a joke. Idk
Sven Svenson (the Toppat Leader in all of the GSPI endings) says that there are multiple divisions in the Toppat Clan, and Henry only met the Airship Division, so Ellie could have met one of the other divisions before going to The Wall.
That's right! Dang I totally forgot about that. That'd be a cool tie in!
Who knows, maybe the biker gang is a division that went rogue and became their own gang?
@@2leftthumbs the Punk gang might either be a rival of the Toppats or be an offshoot
@@loogi4062 I like this theory.
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 What if the Punk Biker Gang used to be members of the Toppat Clan, but got betrayed by the leaders of all the Toppat Divisions just like Henry did in the "The Betrayed" ending?
So in a nutshell, Ellie not only is/was a criminal like Henry, but may have been in same situations, with same resources, and luck Henry had.
I'd say that sums it up!
Stick a wig on Henry. Swap the Diamond for the Emerald. And replace the Airship/Toppats with ____/Punks, and you have her backstory!
I find that unlikely due to
1) A member of the CCC is imprisoned at The Wall
2) The Wall appears to be Russian, and the CCC appears to be either American or independent of any country.
Edit: UA-cam put this under the wrong comment.
yep
@@wta1518 In number 1, you're talking about the CCC guy seen cowering by a rock during the prison riot in FtC, right? According to his bio card, he's actually the Wall's CCC liaison whose goal is to get the Wall priority during chaos incidents.
@@wta1518 sorry but i think it’s for Canada hehe
The Ellie Rose Collection:
Breaching the Vault
Circumvent the Containment
Crashing the Casino
Accessing the Submarine
Fleeing the Complex
Completing the Mission
Good setup.
A bunch of German Punk Toppat equivalents living in submarine...
My god... just think of all the random background conversations to analyse
@@gamedifficulty_4230 *Hitler screaming intensifies*
Nice work. I like.
I am not sure how AtS would work. Since ItA and FtC are the most important and the endings you got all comes back with CtM. While AtS would be unimportant. What if she became the leader? That would be completely unimportant because she would meet Henry and leave all of her bonds with her organization. That would just be a case of bad story-telling because an important part of the story is just completly ignored.
I think that the wall is CCC's prison, they keep anomalys there like henry, he remember the multiverse. Ellie can use force. Freddie from FNAF etc
That have sense
Honestly, makes sense. It is the only game Gary Mann appears, and it is implied Frosty the Snowman is also locked up.
This makes the most sense, up here. ( 👀👆)
There was a CCC guy out in the cold
Its like the scp foundation except worse at containing things
Puffballs and the other part of InnerSloth: Yeah, of course we did that, haven't we Dave?
yeah yeah i mean if i didnt i woulld lose my job
Dave: and I dont wanna lose my job heh
Dave:*Laughing nervously
But who's Dave?
@@Stick-Toons-508Are ya new to Henry Stickmin?
Puffballs actually talked about how their was a scrapped side story for Ellie in the collection in which you would play as her in the top hat clan to see how she ended up in the wall. It was scrapped due to the fact it would mean the game would take another year and it was hard to incorporate into completing the mission.
Would’ve been cool if they made it a separate game
Was this in video or a tweet? I'm wanting to find this.
@@cutedogsweetsugar It was in Puffballs’ developer commentary videos. You can find it on his channel where he plays through he entire series while talking about the development process. It’s hours long so no clue there exact time he mentions it.
So peck it fan made with be cannon?????
Would've been nice if he released the script or anything similar
Game lore:
Actual game: haha stickman get hurt
Creepypastas:haha you don’t wanna play stickman and you get nightmares haha
@@Ediellee1 O_O
@@Ediellee1 are there actually Stickmin creepypastas or is that a reference to Sonic .EXE or something?
@@nindyfarrel1322 Idk leme check
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So, since Jacob Rose is in Steeling the Diamond, there might be another Stickmin in Ellie's story at some point.
Henry's sister?
@@danieltannoodles Who knows. Maybe a cousin.
@DanThunder you can get an accent if you live in a country for enough time
@DanThunder I'm not completely dismissing the idea that they may in fact be unrelated, but what if they were just born in different places? People often have relatives who live in different countries, and Jacob could've immigrated.
A yes tom stickmin
Ellie Rose my favorite character after Henry.
Why PuffballsUnited just won't tell us about her past and after the events
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Her story is very interesting!
Charles Calvin: am I a joke to you
Wolf wolf woof I love Henry and Ellie the same still I do not know which one to love More PS I love how Eli is more daring than Henry because if you read the bio of Ellry? It says it has the braveness of Eli and the luck of Henry yeeeee
I think the puffballs is never gonna explain her backstory. Because it’ll never be quite as good
Because they don't give a shit about her lmao.
Sang Kim yes
Imagine if in Ellie's hypothetical version of Stealing the Diamond there's some inconsequential background character with Stickmin as their last name, who we can't find a way to tie back to Henry...
Alice Stickmin!
Just like Jacob Rose
A Ellie backstory extra would make a great dlc
Puffballs said he’s not making DLC
It really would! I would totally play it
The only persons who can make this are the fans.
Jacob rose having colored hair makes me think that they are related rather than just having the same last name, plus in EtP they did everything they could to remove ties to Ellie so I don't think it was a oversight
This is the most liked comment I've ever had
@@jump-mansclone214 Matpat: ITS JUST A THEORY A GAM-
Puffballs: No its the actual thing
@@jump-mansclone214 to be fair matpat can really be -1000 iq sometimes
This thread aged like milk
@@zacoyunda2001 I see that you've encountered Puff's devcom Twitch Stream aswell (honestly, alot of the confirmed facts are so... absurd, with my favorites such as Charles & Dave's surnames were originally fanon (a fanfic and wiki-edit respectively) and Puff decided to roll with it and make it canon, Ellie was supposed to be a Toppat that helped overthrow Suave with Reg and Right, and Rupert's canonicaly thinning-which has made 30% of the fanbase go on a short yet entertaining twitter civil war).
While I believe Puffballs when he says there will never be a spin-off. It is still notable that this isn’t exactly the first time he’s said this, The Henry stickman series has already had a few “last” games in the past
True, but the previous "last" games were never on the same scale as the collection.
Masahiro Sakurai situation
Maybe puff’s last game before he retire is going to be a actual final of henry stickmin to pay respect to the game that made him popular since he was already popular way before among us
@@Couch_Banana and?
@@charlescalvin1963 That's literally what the Henry Stickmin Collection is.
I have a theory: Ellie was a recruit from the biker gang, Ellie Stole The Emerald alone without help and took it to the gang, but the Tophat Clan saw her stealing the emerald and followed her, so after that Ellie was accused of making the Clan follow her So the gang kicked her out and after that the whole gang went to The Wall including Ellie
PS: Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian
Nah man your english is fine mate, cool theory
@@renstrout thanks.
Punkhauser's bio in FtC can disprove this theory: He's part of a german biker gang, he's the only member to have been caught.
@@shadedcycle You're right
Boa teoria amigo
Puffballs: uhh. Y-Yeah! *scribble* we- we definitely thought- *scribble* of that!
I like your comment, The Weird Person Man :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)
Henry: the ability, no brains
Ellie: no ability, the brains
Charles: the helicopter, no good great plans
Ability=can do it
Brains=smart
Helicopter=greatest plan
Ye
Wow i smart
Ellie has some abilities, including The Force and Diversion, which was learned from Henry.
@@ARandomSpace And henry and ellie learned plan because of me
when the
Near the end he basically just says “Charles is worse then the other two lol” nice video I always wonder her backstory
Lmao, maybe that is the reason why the VH ending exists, to point out Charles? Idk... still is the fan favorite
Charles is more of a concrete character in the series, part of the Government which is an established faction we can join, just like Reginald is in the Toppat Clan which is a different established faction to possibly join. No characters in the separate established factions are shown to possess the abilities Henry and Ellie have.
@@DisneyfanBeckers I agree
Analyzing his theory, the reason he says that is because Charles is the worst character in the collection
@@pugsriel true but somehow, he is fan favorite
Ellie game: cutscene where henry escapes without her
Then Ellie needs to use tools to escape
For an Ellie spinoff that isn't backstory, I typically picture a version of her in the Special BROvert Ops path. Henry never betrayed her and ends up in his best possible place that doesn't involve working with her, so it basically frees up possibilities for what she'd be up to.
Something I really like about Ellie is that they didn't try and force anything romantic between her and Henry. It subverted my expectations, as I assumed that they would end up with some sort of interaction(s) that would indicate them as becoming closer than friends. While I do really enjoy romantic subplots at times in games and media, I'm almost glad that they didn't try and force anything between them last minute. This is why I love this series so much.
It's a series?! And where can you watch it?
@@poppyplaytimevspibby2ukI think they mean is game series
@@gabut4982 ok, thanks you
It's still implied that Henry has feelings for Ellie. When you choose the super speed option in Fleeing the Complex, he attempts to pick up Ellie in a romantic bridal carry position.
Henry: The Stupid Lead
Ellie: The Love Interest
Charles: **T h e G r e a t e s t P l a n**
except there's not the slightest indication that Ellie is the LI for either of them
Ellie: friend
Charles: *PLAN*
I am the 69th liker *NICE*
@@cindyzhaoyingzi8719 Who asked you to reply?
@@cindyzhaoyingzi8719 Who asked you to reply to my reply to your reply to my comment?
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good Ellie's theme is.
Considering that Jacob Rose talks with Ted McAdams, someone who is important in Henry's first step in his story, it could be possible that Jacob is involved somehow in the first step in Ellie's story. (This might also mean something for Kurt Dietrich considering he talks with Dave Panpa but I don't know if that would really matter)
In fact Kurt's German name could somehow link to Punkhauser's German biker gang
Hey, I love your videos on the Toppat leitmotif, among others. Keep up the great work!
How is Jacob Rose important?
@@alofii6106 They’re siblings because they share the same last name (?)
@@yukimizuki1963 or husband, cause people can change last names when marrying others
you mentioned one time that ellie was able to use the force, and I love that little idea, that people have abilities from random pop-culture media, such as Henry being an Earthbender, and being able to metal bend. It makes me wonder what powers exist in this universe.
I could understand PuffBallsUnited.
Sometimes the greatest Stories are best untold. And as a creator he probably lost interest, or hit the creative wall. Plus he probably, thinks it's better to have a fans build up Ellie Rose's story arch, then creating a whole new game explaining how Ellie ended up in the Complex to begin with.
Here's an interesting thought, in fleeing the complex, when you choose the knee in convict allies, henry could leave without ellie and flee the complex all by his self, but the fail screen still comes up suggesting that the connection could be closer than we thought
interesting.
THE KNEE
10:14 I have a theory on the Tunisian Diamond being stolen by the Toppats: they DID stole it, they mayor (that we later discover he's with the Toppats) made a fake story in which he (or someone else) managed to retrive back the Diamond, while in reality he just used for... i dunno... votes? But then Henry stole it and that explain why he's not entitled "Mayor" in CtM bios.
No no no, It is later revealed that he is a TOPPAT. The news didn't know that Henry stole it, self-explanatory if you do, Unseen Burglar. Just Plain Epic, the Museum was destroyed and no one alive who actually KNEW Henry stole it so they could inform so. And for Intruder on a Scooter, well, since Henry fell ppl thought Henry died so there was no use Actually informing this news.
@@DroneDashRBLX_inf i said something completely diffrent: I'm saying that Alice (the news reporter) is right, so... WHEN did the Toppats stole the diamond? Before STD.
Well henry stole the diamond and then Henry becomes a toppat so I guess that’s why it says that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the toppats stole the diamond xnsusxxxx$ fd f a
@@cadefilms4072 no, because in the baron jewels ending, he wasn't a toppat, so no
@@cadefilms4072 you can continue the sentence, it's fine
This is so cool, I've been wondering her story!
Well this video made me change my view on Ellie better then before. I never thought they were similar.
This just makes me want a full Ellie Rose adventures game just like Henry. That would be absolutely incredible and I’d play that for hours.
15:13 gotta agree on this one, their music themes are so hecking similar! the only difference is that ellie's theme is more of a ""female style" while henry's is more of a "boy's style" and i absolutely love it!
Thank you for all of the Stickmin videos :D
They always bright my day
Glad to hear that! It's my pleasure :)
I had a lot of fun with this one!
Wow, you too!
To summarize: Ellie is a female Henry.
To summarize, Charles is the greatest Henry with a headset.
Plot Twist: Every stick figure is Henry but from another dimension.
@@prestondave9944 but in some endings Henry is the leader of the toppats(specifically Toppat King and Toppat 4 Life)
what?
yeah why not
what if Henry and Ellie are long-lost siblings
Ellie is the smart one and Henry is the one who succeeds just by dumb luck
That would be a good au
@SquidwardPlays there's a lot
@SquidwardPlays well lets just say there is more Henry x Charles then there is Henry x Ellie
@SquidwardPlays if you wanna be truly scared
nearly the entire fandom is yaoi stuff
No
Now i get the Ellry "have the fierceness of Ellie and the luck of Henry"
My headxanon using this as a jumping off point, Jacob Rose (her brother in my eyes) dared Ellie to steal something from another museum to prove that museum security was terrible after Henry stole the diamond from his museum.
welll.... thats interesting!
ellie after her brother dared her to do that: hold my stop sign
Now you've got me thinking. There is another character, one who can seemingly pull impossible things out of thin air one, and is capable of preforming a combination attack with Henry. The one, the only, the Right Hand Man.
"But all his stuff is just because he's a cyborg!" I hear you protest. I will let the Right Hand Man himself answer this one:
"You fool! Did you really think my Spirit was a result of my augmentations?"
Yes, you could say most of the stuff he pulled when he was a cyborg were tied to his augmentations, but the same could be said for Henry when _he_ was turned into a cyborg, couldn't it?
He also manages to pull a verity of items out of nowhere when you fight him in ItA. They’re admittedly still mostly things he would likely be in possession of, but if still doesn’t explain how he suddenly gets a minigun or summons a mirror.
You could argue that it’s Henry’s choices that influence the abilities of those around him, such as how both the fusion dance and earthbend lead to him fighting someone with similar skills, but at the same time those characters still have explanations of their abilities in their bios, which RHM doesn’t.
It’s also interesting that while Henry fights several opponents in the style of other games, (Mr Macbeth with Undertale, Night guards Tim and Joe with Pokemon, the Advanced Wars/Fire Emblem section of FtC etc.), these characters always use the weapons that they were seen to have before hand, whereas RHM doesn’t
Puffballs might be lying and secretly working on one
It would be nice
No, it's pretty clear he's done with it, he want to do other things than keeping on the same universe all his career and it's clear that Completing the Mission is meant to be the true end of the series. People should accept this rather than clinging on false hopes of "maybe he'll change his mind".
Ima guess he is tired of these characters, but maybe he could incorporate these characters into a FPS or make a DLC for among us to change among us characters into a selection of stickmin characters
@@beanlets You can pretty much already do that with all the cosmetics, I don't think it's worth it to re-do a sprite sheet with every crewmate's action with stick figures. Also the good thing about the Among Us crewmates is that their colors is clearly visible which wouldn't be the case with stick figures so it wouldn't work to replace the Among Us characters by stick figures.
TLDR: Ellie Rose is basically a female version of Henry, period
Edit: Huh, I did not expect to start a debate, thanks for the likes too
Actually,yeah, I can agree with that
Well not really because Ellie doesn’t have the powers Henry has, she talks way more often, and she can’t get out of prison on her own
@@boyopoyo3146 and thats the differences
@@boyopoyo3146 Toppat civil war route?
@@boyopoyo3146 he says that in the video that in the toppat civil war path, when Henry abandons her in the wall, she not only breaks out by herself, but also infiltrates the toppat airship without Henry’s help, suggesting that she has a similar set of skills and abilities as Henry
"There will be no more henry or Henry like games"
**Laughs in among us**
imagine they make a DLC called: Henry Stickmin Collection: The Ellie's Rose
Here's the someone Theory
Ellie did NOT flees the complex.
Maybe she was released to find Henry, who escaped from complex.
I don't know if anyone else wrote this theory.
If there is, I haven't seen him.
But 6:30 disproves that theory
I really do love Ellie and I'm so happy to see a detailed theory about what Ellie's past might be like and it was super enjoyable to see you point out how similar she is to Henry and how perfect of a match they are for each other
Also a collection of Ellie doing a similar quest to Henry and having her own gang to infiltrate I'm excited for Crashing the Casino.
I would love to hear a remix that combines Ellie's theme and Press Start. Maybe that could be the new "Ellry faction" theme that we see a few times in completing the mission.
Also the only backstory I wanna know is where the wall came from.
Let's just ignore the fact of PuffBallsUnited having a Dong as his pfp
I love monkeys
E X P A N D D O N G
LMAOO
“I Don’t Think Ellie Was Part Of Any German Biker Gang.”
-PuffballsUnited
So that Solidifies my theory of ellie possibly taking on the mafia
perhaps Jacob Rose is like Dave Panpa, having a minor role in almost every scenario Ellie appears in. This is pretty unlikely though.
A more plausible theory is that there's someone out there with the last name Stickmin that isn't Henry, who appears at some point in Ellie's life and never again.
How abot Henry Stikman (the one people keeped confusing with our Henry)
Henry and Ellie are like the goofiest, craziest Bonnie and Clyde out there, and Charles is there just to steer them at other criminals
As a Henry Stickmin fan, I actually have my own backstory: So, Ellie had a family, but something was torn apart with her parents, and her dad was a criminal, while her mom was just a housewife. She found out that Ellie’s dad was a criminal, she divorced him, and at this time, she were probably in her teens or mid-adults. So, Ellie found out, and then she started to have irregular opinions about him, whether or not he was good or not, then she started to go to college, then she dropped out to live with her mom after her dad moved out of the house, but after an argument with her mom she decided to be a criminal, then thats where her story is parallel to Henry’s now. Then, after the Infiltration of the Airship, the 4th episode which will be Ellie’s, is now sent to the Wall and that’s how she met up with Henry.
This might be not an exact opinion, but I talked about her and her family and how she turned into a criminal.
Edit: Jacob is not related to Ellie as of 1/8/20 in one of PuffBall’s live stream’s, so I’m editing the comment
cool
i n f l a t i o n the airship
This makes sense
Thats actually really cool!
Her synchronicity with Henry is really what opens up the character to me. I have never seen this level of sync in my entire life, considering that they've only met for 2 games, Henry's caveat which is not speaking much, and yet they pull off fusions, combos, and other sh¡t. Some people keep saying that she's just female henry but I digress: She is her own character that simply works so well with Henry.
6:13 hold up, look at that bio. The warden of the wall says to Henry there has not been an incident at the wall in fifty years... so how did that happen?
The only path we see him is triple threat, which follows convict allies, meaning he escapee during the same outbreak that Henry and ellie escaped on, it's literally mentioned in the end of the bio
This is one of theories that can actually be real
“So we got Jacob Rose and....
_hmmm...”_
Ellie and Jacob are SIBLINGS
@@MikeZeOfficialM8 did i say they weren’t?
That's kinda strange indeed :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)
Wow..... now, I love Ellie even more!
It also worth noting that when you load up the save when you going to rob the emrald, you landed on the plank and got shot by Ellie meaning that somehow, Ellie has to do something with the emrald at some point.
It says a german biker gang right? Maybe thats why ellie has good skills with motorcycles.
Oohh man!! I'm so bummed that I didn't think of that as a possible connection!!
I personally think that Jacob would function as Ellie's "charles"
Jacob: (Driving a tank straight to Ellie) HERE I COME TO SAFE THE DAY!
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 The most considerable idea
Doubt it.
Okay so let me explain further. While Jacob is not a perfect copy of Charles, he is the one who initially turned Ellie into the Government and accompanied her on her mission to deal with the German Punk Gang.
Ellie’s story I.E crashing the casino,leaving the clink,swiping the emerald and hitting the hideout
15:44
There is another tune called “Press Start”
However, it is nothing to do with the Henry stickmin collection
tbh press start would remind me of geometry dash subzero and henry stickmin
@@renthewizard dantdm old intro
I feel like Jacob's role in Ellie's story is the same as the guy he was talking to from Henry's. Once again it can be considered a 'where 2 paths meet' situation so maybe it applies to more than just Henry and Ellie.
Actually jacob rose has a lot of connections he says: "And they just streaight up arrested *her*" I think its ellie who was arrested
Henry Breaks into Bank
1 hour later
Ellie breaks into bank
1 hour later Henry escapes jail
1 minute later Ellie escapes jail
1 year later
Henry Steals Diamond 💎
(The museum got new diamond)
Ellie steals diamond 💎
1 year later
Henry Infiltrates a airship
1 moment later
Ellie does the same thing
Both ending up in Complex
Henry and Ellie work together to escape
(What’s next?)
Possible theory based on pure speculation: Ellie is the doppelganger of henry in another dimension
A small detail I really like is that in Infiltrating the Airship Henry can metalbend and in Fleeing the Complex he can earthbend, and in a similar fashion Ellie uses the force in both Fleeing the Complex and Completing the Mission
I agree with the whole Ellie has the same life path as Henry. I think while Henry has insane luck, Ellie then has insane fierceness. Parallel lives but differing abilities.
So Ellie is perfect for Henry, it just Henry has to know or believe.
Redheaded outlaw played in the background
I'd like to imagine, that while Henry was stealing the diamond, and was in the same area as Jacob Rose, Ellie was stealing her own thing, while in the same area as a female with the last name Stickmin, just to have things match in their lives even more.
By my guess for this Jacob Rose. He would Ellie's brother. Like Ellie is the black sheep [a criminal girl that relies only on herself than her own family and goes on her criminal spree] and Jacob is the nice cheering guy [cares for his family deeply, respects the laws and justice with pretty much how he got the work as a security guard]. I think Jacob doesn't talk about Eliie because they might consider him as an accomplice. But he still thinks of his sister, his OLD sister he used to love.
13:45 actually I think the reason Henry’s plan worked is because they both understand Henry the best where as Henry understands both of them and vice versa but Charles and Ellie are friends, can work well together, but in the end work nowhere near as well as they do with Henry, they trust him so they would follow his plan best
I kind of feel like designing a fan game based on this
But I am terrible at it
I wanted that too, but I don't even know how to program a game.
Welcome to another episode of: "How Fast Can You Click On A 2 Left Thumbs Video As Soon As It Is Uploaded?"
What was the result!?
@@2leftthumbs less than half a second.
@@powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986 *Pathetic*
@@2leftthumbs I did 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
@@lightning7705 SAIWUQHIUFH i clicked before the video came out, in -9 seconds.
Theory: How did Wilheim survive the bone melt?
It's simple!
He just
@@polaknasieci1331 he just got put in fridge
@@polaknasieci1331 it’s simple
He didnt
It was a temporary debuff?
@@andressennn7893 wha-?
my Ellie's Story headcanon:
I'll call her equavelent to BTB a small heist or something, a little crime that gets her put in a small prison.
She escapes the prison like Henry does.
Then comes Attacking the Museum. Ellie is told by her cousin Jacob Rose to attack an enemy museum, with the Emerald in it. Basically she steals the Emerald and bankrupts the museum.
Let's assume that Ellie lives in Germany. The German biker gang mentioned in the video steals Ellie's emerald. Ellie then has to either infiltrate or join them to get her emerald back.
Before The Wall
The bikers are found out by the government and they either rat out Ellie or betray her. Because of this, only one gang member is captured because of their help. Ellie and the gang member are transferred to The Wall (in whatever country Henry lives in) and Ellie is marked as highly dangerous and lucky so she is put in a cell with Henry.
I was actually thinking about making a fangame where Henry goes back to the museum of Stealing The Diamond to get everything that remained
Enough about Ellie’s backstory
*We need Charles’s backstory*
I need an explanation for scene were the toppats get abducted with a tractor beam
Agree
@@TheRealSuperKirby where is that scene from?
he's just a dumbass with a helicopter
@@humanpearson7122 valiant hero intro
This makes SO much sense! Ellie had to fight the Punks instead of the Toppats and went after the Emerald!
Explaining the Backstory
Yes because that’s what’s in the vidoesssxnsms jjx
I would say that Charles is chill because after The rapidly promoted executive ending Charles didnt got mad but ellie got mad because he betrayed her so The most chill character and loyal in Henry stickmin is Charles
he never noticed how much attacking the tower has grown from just a simple fan game...
My Headcannon for Ellie Rose is that she was a Criminal who did Something Something really bad and ended up in the Wall.
I don’t know, I’m trying to have a theory about what is Jacob Rose’s significance. Maybe, meanwhile Ellie stole the emerald, Henry stole the diamond and Jacob knew that his sister (or his cousin) was a thief, and was on the museum, waiting for her so he could stop her, but he didn’t knew what she was going to steal. He assumed she’ll steal the diamond but she didn’t. Henry did. (I’ll add more to this theory soon)
Would like to know more about it!
Puff said in a stream that Jacob and ellie aren't related
Ideas for "sequels" for CTM
Instead of another full game we could have shorter ones based on endings we got in CTM (not all of them obviously) like the length of a single ending in std i think that'd probably be the best of both worlds for both fans that prefer one ending and it creates easily digestible content
Puffball cormed that CTM Is the final game of the serie
I still remember playing the first flash game of puffballs of "blowing up bank" where i first time saw the options and had a lot of fun. Never in a million years i thought there will be a full on dedicated series and an actual last game that wraps up everything that has led up to that point.
Also, i still remember replaying "fleeing the complex" and every single other game puffballs had, like a madman. Until i got bored and was busy with life and forgot all about them.
But hey, they released the game and slapped me in the face with nostalgia and here i am after a full "completing the mission" henry stickmin collection game, and i am proud they actually stuck with it and even improved it.
Speaking of the force, maybe we could have a Jedi battle between Henry and Ellie.
Theory: Ellie needed a partner so she purposely let herself get caught by the wall in order to find a partner
Unlikely
Unlikely
Unlikely
*Impossible.*
*Impossible.*
I'm making a mod like this, but the emerald is the Ruby. And the scooter is red or pink. Idk yet. Edit: thanks for the likes i never get likes :(
Can you put a link for the mod?
YEAH
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 I replied yeah on this
Concept seems nice, but we need more information
Next Vid: Why we ship the two
Hey, if there's a fandom, of course there's gonna be ships.
(P.s I'm not a shipper, I don't bash anyone who does it too)
Hey, maybe Ellie’s “contacts” are the German biker gang because she either Took down or became the Toppat(leader)
I bet it's cool for the developer/developers to see so many people really thinking about and theorizing their game.
i search up crashing the casino
search results: A TEEN CRASHED INTO A CASINO AND DIED
"In the Valiant Hero path, Charles..."
SHUT. SHUT IT. I SAID SHUT IT.
Nah i don’t cry anymore I’ve seen it way too many times that it’s just- you get used to it you know?
@@isatrujillo469 Yeah.
@EnderJesse WOAWOAWOA
spoilers but xd
*It's alright, ur not the one who got sick of it*
I believe Jacob Rose might be a family member, like a brother perhaps. Probably not too important for her story, but I believe him to be her brother that went quite a different route then Ellie did.
henry: i will go without ell-
henry: *becomes tophat*
ellie: I REMEBERED THAT
Rest in peace to Crashing the Casino. However we're still getting Attacking the Tower, so at least it isn't a total loss.
And it's looking good