I can imagine Holosun employees sitting in a big room with a giant projector screen all huddled around, nervously holding an arm around the person next to them as they watch Aaron's reviews
I skipped to the end and heard "Big Pass" and Said "FCK!!! SERIOUSLY?! ITS NO GOOD?!" Then watched it again and realized what he meant. Pass/fail. Not I'm gonna pass. Haha. Faith restored.
They are killing all other Red Dot manufacturers. What is a very affordable for is also very durable and various optic variations. Why would anyone what anything more expensive and typically not very durable and features are limited......
@@J3o3 maybe all the military contracts and Leo contracts? Either way I've seen rmr's go bad battery connectors break or sealing plates fail. Shit happens
Hard to ignore what they're doing, and Aaron should be getting fat checks from them because his tests have opened the door for the serious shooting crowd to take them serious. And that is a huge market. I've got an RMR on my Shadow Systems 19 and my G45 is milled for an RMR. It's most likely getting a Holosun 507c.
Agree wholeheartedly. Good dots are expensive and if your guns aren't already milled, there's even more expense to make them ready (besides milling, good sights and potentially needing to source quality screws, as well as the ammo to learn and practice a new sighting system). I'm not spending that money unless it makes Aaron's approved list.
@@gunsandcommissions yep, getting a slide milled and acquiring a dot is the equivalent cost of an entirely new pistol in most cases so it’s definitely a decision you want to be sure about.
Really agree that it's nice these are starting to get "mundane". I had to rewind when he mentioned that he's almost up to 15,000 rounds with his 509T. It's stuff like that which really solidify to me that these are reliable optics - no one else demonstrates that on UA-cam, and it really helps the consumers in my mind when there is this sort of research being done.
Aaron, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate the consistent dedication to the absolute best pistol red dot reviews out there. I for one will absolutely be moving over to Patreon with you next year.
At 0:57 there is a wonderful close up of you shooting multiple targets. If you ever wanted a training tool of “follow your eyes to the next target,” this is it. You clearly can see your eyes transitioning to the next target with movement of the gun and shots following shortly thereafter. I’ll be using it for show and tell today. Thanks Aaron.
I don’t know why I have never clicked on Sage Dynamics videos. I always see them when looking at reviews, training, etc. This is the first one I’ve watched, awesome video. This has to be one of the best red dot reviews I have ever watched. If this same format extends across all of their reviewed equipment, I’m in. They have a new subscriber and fan, keep up the great work!!!
Aron says he's not the end all standard in pistol optics testing.....but we are all here because we think differently about that! Great review again Aron! 👍
@@ronnguyen8287 never seen that. Granted I have a decent astigmatism. It’s not bad enough for it to affect my shooting except in darkness but it’s still noticeable soooo my reticle dare all distorted by default for me hahah
I've been trying to get one of these since I saw them previewed at Shot last year... on several wait lists but still can't get one. I'm glad it met your tests and standards!!
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 the only thing they really have to say is "bUt MuH cHiNa bAd". And they type that out on a phone made in a sweat shop. When their hypocrisy isn't blindly apparent to them then I believe they invalidate their own "point". Also, it's the same people that claim to run nothing but aimpoint or trijicon. 2 companies that couldn't care less about them or what they want and that would stop selling to civilians at any moment for a govt contract. Hate is one thing if you're speaking facts about actual quality or whatnot. But it means absolutely nothing of its based on anything other that quality really. Trijicon still won't even add a top load battery to the rmr. Something that's 100% obviously doable because the sro has a top load. Trijicon doesn't care about what you want as a consumer. Aimpoint made a shitty acro the first try, and now it seems like they're using the consumer as beta testers for the p2 because they will not fully release them. They're being released in very small numbers every month or so. And i just saw a post the other day on reddit with a p2 that was fogging from the inside. Aimpoint doesn't give a damn about the civilian consumer market. Just like trijicon, their bread and butter is govt contracts. And that's not going to change. I'm worried sig is about to turn into the samething as a company. Only really worried about getting and fulfilling govt contracts.
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 Because for so many, their gear is a religion. It's elitism. That's why I like Aaron so much. He has a scientific approach and when the data showed that the holosuns are pretty tough, he wasn't afraid to adapt to the new tech. He's not married to an RMR, Aimpoint and ACOG as if they are the only options out there.. I love that.
Well, I will definitely miss your UA-cam content. One of my favorite UA-cam channels, with a ton of absolutely invaluable information. Sorry to see you go sir. Wishing you all the best over on Patreon though.
Great review, thank you Aaron. It's a pity Trijicon can't keep up with a similar R&D pattern to keep up with market developments like Holosun is just simply cruising through and bringing to market. Nevertheless, we are likely to stick with the Holosun SCS and hope to host you in the new year, if possible, when we're ready to field those units.
Great review. Holosun is the only option for the new S&W 5.7 and it looks like they picked the right sight. Love that it sits low and I don’t have to spend $100 on suppressor sights.
I just got the Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical that’s direct milled for this footprint optic. I’m anxiously checking everyday to see when they’re finally available. I’ve always wanted to use the ring only reticle on a shotgun lol
I like my eps. First one I got had a small crack on the left bottom corner of the back glass. Not right on the corner but a little offset. I didn’t notice it until I mounted it on my pistol. Also one of the screws was stripped so I had to use one I had. It was a bummer but I’ve only had good luck with Holosun and this was a very early one. Biggest problem was getting it replaced due to availability. Got my new one and everything worked great as all my other Holosun products have. Every company gets lemons every once in a while and I would assume Holosun produces a lot of optics. My new one functions as good as my other optics and wouldn’t let my first one turn me off of the eps. I like the size while getting an enclosed optic. Basically the same size as my 507, but lower and enclosed. Only thing to be aware of is finding the right one can be a bit confusing. Mostly due to the website that has it listed. Make sure you get the one you want (eps or eps carry).
People can hate on Holosun all they want but they're becoming THE choice for handgun red dots. They listen and innovate and do what they can to get something we want, the little things like including several screw sets sets them apart for sure.
I have 4 different Holosun optics and they’ve all been great! I take appreciate the amount of features they pack into them and then price them so there is basically an option for anyone!
Understand you’re not a professional UA-camr, but appreciate your videos. Equipment is very expensive and good to see items I might buy well tested so that I can make informed purchases.
Speaking as an ACRO guy, I think a Glock milled for one of these with the rear iron in front of the optic would be fantastic carrying appendix. That drop off would help break up the silhouette. The rear edge of my ACROs always catch on my shirts
Honestly, I think we can all agree that the fastest guns available are open race guns, and dots on those sit at an height everyone would consider unacceptable on a slide ride dot. It’s just a matter of shooting style as you said. Great work by the way, thanks for the service you provide to everyone in the market for a dot.
I think that the desire for lower mounts, or co-witness w/o suppressor height sights, is so the folks who know irons can -- in their minds -- skip the RDS learning curve. They still have to learn to stop looking for the front sight post. They don't realize they aren't making it any easier, no matter what their "theory" might suggest. When all you do is index your eyes to the target and present the pistol with the dot in the way, it doesn't matter at what (reasonable) height the optic window sits. Funny how at the same time everyone wants to LARP with NV etc and raise their optics on their rifles, they are screaming to lower them on the pistol. So much rookiedom.
@@seanoneil277 completely agree. The only reasonable argument to lower the optic is to co-witness standard-height irons, as higher front sights often mess up holster compatibility.
This is exciting for me because you can mill an m&p 2.0 for the K footprint and use the standard iron sight and dovetail instead of having to mill a Glock dovetail for the rear and get a mismatched set of sights.
Thanks Aaron! Long time sub, first time commenter... Great info, awesome as always. I've purchased 3 dots based off of your tests. Wondering if you have looked into testing the Bul Armory MS series?
Glad a company made something like this. I have a Canik Mete and it requires a micro footprint. I want a dot but don't want a micro on a full sized pistol. The eps is the way I will go.
Best value on UA-cam is Aaron. I love that there is a gun channel that doesn’t shove down your throat to like and subscribe. I only trust my barber…And Sage Dynamics.
6:39 An optic that sits low in the gun is only better (regarding handguns). Sure, you may not ever felt you "needed" it but it does more than just allow co-witness with standard height sights. It also gives you a slighter bigger window (for same height), also gives you less height for the same window (less snag and better for CCW, less printing, etc...). It actually is a huge Pro despite the simple change.
It's virtually insignificant. You're splitting hairs over preference. If you take away the bias and just go off of objective advantage, it's not really changing anything. The best thing about it is that your irons already work as a co-witness and you don't have to get new one's. That to me is not a small thing, and make's the "lower mounting" very appealing and a nice bonus. But I already have a 509T mounted direct on a dedicated optic rail; and I actually prefer it even more, because of the clamp style mounting, just like a 1913 rail.. I never did jump on board the 'micro" pistol ban wagon.. but this thing (and/or EPS Carry), is really making me want to go ahead and grab one. Most likely a p365
For me, it's a big game of muscle memory.... When the optic is mounted lower, the dot comes up exactly where your irons would when u present your pistol on target. Whether using an optic or not, I can draw the same way same everything... And whether I'm using irons or an optic, it's shows it's self in my sight line every time. That's why I like lower mounted optics
I think the “want it lower, want it lower“ thing isn’t because of presentation/comfort, sitting lower does let you use your oem/or not as high irons and cowitness. I also think a lot of that comes from the use of plates vs paying for a custom cut/milled slide. It seems you don’t care about back up/cowitness irons, but many, like myself do. And call me a whatever, but wont carry a rig, runnin a dot with out usable irons. To each their own. Also, and it’s is a thing, but a lower optic just “looks” better. When the v1 acro dropped, the only thing everyone even talked about was how bulky, dorky, and cumbersome it looked. That said, what a rad time to be into any mrd. The small issues or complaints of a while back are getting addressed, quality and durability are way way up vs yesteryears offerings, price is down, choice is up, battery life is up, nothing but positives all around and it benefits everyone. Great work Aaron. And happy learning/growing all.
I spent the first 16 minutes of the video wondering what the adapter plate/system was. In case you're somewhere earlier in the video and wondering the same thing: it's an Agency Arms "AOS" plate (although I don't yet see an option for the Holosun 'k' footprint on their site), specifically for their AOS slide cut. Side note: Aaron, if you're reading this, I realize beggars can't be choosers but some constructive criticism I have would be to add a quick overview in the beginning of these types of videos of the gun used to test the product and a disclosure of your relationship with the manufacturer of the product tested/reviewed. Of course, none of this feedback is discounting the value of the content you produce and share--thank you, sir!
The best part about the EPS and EPS carry are that they use the same footprint. For guys deep in other footprints it may be hard to accept, but this could be THE awaited chosen standard footprint. The one to rule them all.
Now August, 2023, 9 months after this review, I'm thinking about buying an EPS Carry. Before I do, it would be good to know if Holosun will be coming out with a newer model within the next year or two. Would hate to buy now, only to learn that a new version is coming out soon.
Just bought the eps mrs in green. Can't wait to mount it on my CZ-P10C. I was wondering if you'd ever review a Cyelee pistol red dot? I figured I'd ask since there's a lot of people reviewing and recommending them. Thanks.
Still waiting for my green MRS version to arrive direct from Holosun. It's been on backorder since July... I have all black Ameriglo Defoor GT-504 sights for backup
Off topic, but I'd like to know which mag extensions you're using and which ones would you recommend? Maybe another video with some drop testing of the different popular mag extensions 🤔?
Probably singing to the preacher, but Swampfox has neat "problem solver" screw kit. Reasonably priced and IIRC shipping was free or ACTUAL first class (like a dollar or something...??). Just throwing it out there for those that don't know. Worth it to pick one up and have them on hand 🤙
Love your videos however, I do believe you prefer a lower optic on the gun. Reference you Agency AOS plate video where you praised how low the optic sat compared to the GLOCK MOS plate. Also your Staccato P video where your only criticism was how high the plate made the optic sat. I know opinion change and that could be the case here. I prefer lower optics so I don’t have to worry about mechanical off set at closer distances.
My favorite part of this video is 14:34 seeing the concrete blocks being broken and busted in the middle where he is dropping optics on them. My not so favorite part is at 17:03!
This is how an enclosed optic should look in 2024 and going foward, Also that's it's so low and you don't need hi iron sights is the way And lastly it's awesome how holosun is slide matching the optics to the cuts on the gun it's going on and trying to colour match is a really nice move.
I have an EPS on an MOS G34. You CAN still see the irons. It’s a functional view if you really need it, however, there are other “my optic went down” methods that don’t require irons.
@@silverforever15 like I said, it’s a “functional” view. Not like with the SCS where you see the whole sight. It’s the top half but you could use them.
Holosun markets this as having Aspherical Glass like the Romeo 2. Does the EPS have as little distortion as the Romeo 2? How’s the distortion compared to the 509T?
With all the features of the EPS, from the side battery compartment to the solar failsafe, what would you say is "better", RMR or EPS???? One is $150-200 more, has far less features, need to remove to change battery, has a tiny lens, but is proven and reliable; while the other is modern, exciting, functional, and packed with features for 1/4 less in price. I could really use your opinion(s)!!! Thank you
I’m apprehensive on getting one. I already have a 507c v2 that I have beat the living hell out of. But I HATE open emitters now. I don’t know how I trust an adapter plate for an rmr cut…
What do you think about the difference in overall size of the EPS vs. the 509T? Is the bigger 509T more distracting while shooting? On a MOS Glock 17, does the EPS window really sit lower than the 509T, taking the adapter plates into account? The 509T seems to have a better mounting system (more robust) with the Holosun Glock MOS adapter plate. For the EPS the adapter plate from Holosun seems to have only shallow holes to screw on the sight. There is a MOS plate for the EPS/507k footprint from C&H that uses special nuts for better connection, but this plate is very difficult to get in Europe.
It is lower than 509T because the deck height is already lower. Not really distracting on the 509T because you have a big window, also if you are target focus that would not bother you at all. I have a 509T on my Glock for about two years, zero issues. Mounting wise, now that RADIAN offers the Guardian mount, you can get that in terms of a better mounting solution, adds more protection too.
I have this optic. I got it to piggyback on a lpvo. For night vision. I don’t have night vision yet. But the version I got is 6 moa. Is 6 moa too big for using with night vision
I can imagine Holosun employees sitting in a big room with a giant projector screen all huddled around, nervously holding an arm around the person next to them as they watch Aaron's reviews
Like a NASA launch
They all have their ties around their heads
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha. Love this post.s
I skipped to the end and heard "Big Pass" and Said "FCK!!! SERIOUSLY?! ITS NO GOOD?!"
Then watched it again and realized what he meant. Pass/fail. Not I'm gonna pass. Haha. Faith restored.
The fact that they basically took a 509T and packed it into an existing footprint is just genius. They continue to pull ahead
They are killing all other Red Dot manufacturers. What is a very affordable for is also very durable and various optic variations. Why would anyone what anything more expensive and typically not very durable and features are limited......
@@J3o3 maybe all the military contracts and Leo contracts? Either way I've seen rmr's go bad battery connectors break or sealing plates fail. Shit happens
@@J3o3 I've seen an Trijicon RMR and DeltaPoint fail... don't mean they ain't good optics bud 🙄
Hard to ignore what they're doing, and Aaron should be getting fat checks from them because his tests have opened the door for the serious shooting crowd to take them serious. And that is a huge market.
I've got an RMR on my Shadow Systems 19 and my G45 is milled for an RMR. It's most likely getting a Holosun 507c.
Do you by chance know if the EPS will fit Safariland 7 series holsters for the 509t?
So glad you decided to make videos on the EPS and EPS carry. I and many others won’t even consider a pistol dot without your blessing. Thanks Aaron 😁
Agree wholeheartedly. Good dots are expensive and if your guns aren't already milled, there's even more expense to make them ready (besides milling, good sights and potentially needing to source quality screws, as well as the ammo to learn and practice a new sighting system).
I'm not spending that money unless it makes Aaron's approved list.
@@gunsandcommissions yep, getting a slide milled and acquiring a dot is the equivalent cost of an entirely new pistol in most cases so it’s definitely a decision you want to be sure about.
His review(s) are why I got a 509.
@@DanE-ew1yt Same, but 407.
@@DanE-ew1yt me too. 509T X2 and ACRO P2
I love that these reviews are becoming more "boring". The optics are working. Wonderful. Keep them coming. Appreciated!
Sounds like poems to my ears.
Really agree that it's nice these are starting to get "mundane". I had to rewind when he mentioned that he's almost up to 15,000 rounds with his 509T. It's stuff like that which really solidify to me that these are reliable optics - no one else demonstrates that on UA-cam, and it really helps the consumers in my mind when there is this sort of research being done.
As I am reading this he’s saying the word boring 😂
Aaron, hands-down awesome reviews / information transmission every time. Love your vids. Thank you!
Aaron, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate the consistent dedication to the absolute best pistol red dot reviews out there. I for one will absolutely be moving over to Patreon with you next year.
Excellent video as usual Aaron. Thank you for taking the time to keep us informed.
Thank you, as always. Such a massive value to the community. Helped bring dots to everyone, and also show us what works and what doesn't.
Thank you for your review on both of these Aaron! Not much out there on the EPS models right now but you got them
At 0:57 there is a wonderful close up of you shooting multiple targets. If you ever wanted a training tool of “follow your eyes to the next target,” this is it. You clearly can see your eyes transitioning to the next target with movement of the gun and shots following shortly thereafter. I’ll be using it for show and tell today. Thanks Aaron.
I don’t know why I have never clicked on Sage Dynamics videos. I always see them when looking at reviews, training, etc. This is the first one I’ve watched, awesome video. This has to be one of the best red dot reviews I have ever watched. If this same format extends across all of their reviewed equipment, I’m in. They have a new subscriber and fan, keep up the great work!!!
You have SO MANY videos to go through. Aaron Cowan is truly one of the greatest firearm instructors ever to live.
@DT Tiller: same-same here!
As far as features go. This seems to be the best optic on the market. Hopefully it continues to hold up
Aron says he's not the end all standard in pistol optics testing.....but we are all here because we think differently about that!
Great review again Aron! 👍
Because of your test, I bought one of these EPS-MRS. Installed it on my S&W M&P Compact. Wow, what an improvement for my old eyes. Thank you.
Great, thorough review, and helpful opinions. Great optic to consider for sure.
Your recoil management is amazing and your videos are great I'm so glad I found your channel
I hate him for his recoil control- but I’m just jealous ha
@@Flashhood1425 Will have to join his Patreon at the end of the year to still get them. I'm in!
So many rounds to build skills
I absolutely love the EPS for my PDP compact for EDC. Great glass, great clarity, great size, great form and function.
Is your reticle distorted? I'm about to get one but I've read reviews saying their reticle is distorted (mrs version)
@@ronnguyen8287 never seen that. Granted I have a decent astigmatism. It’s not bad enough for it to affect my shooting except in darkness but it’s still noticeable soooo my reticle dare all distorted by default for me hahah
Great overview as always. LOVE the field of view focuses at 7:33. Love this.
I've been trying to get one of these since I saw them previewed at Shot last year... on several wait lists but still can't get one. I'm glad it met your tests and standards!!
Please do a 10k round update for the EPS!
Holosun has made a mark in the industry
And they get so much hate I just don't understand
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 that's cause people need something to complain about lol
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 the only thing they really have to say is "bUt MuH cHiNa bAd". And they type that out on a phone made in a sweat shop. When their hypocrisy isn't blindly apparent to them then I believe they invalidate their own "point".
Also, it's the same people that claim to run nothing but aimpoint or trijicon. 2 companies that couldn't care less about them or what they want and that would stop selling to civilians at any moment for a govt contract.
Hate is one thing if you're speaking facts about actual quality or whatnot. But it means absolutely nothing of its based on anything other that quality really.
Trijicon still won't even add a top load battery to the rmr. Something that's 100% obviously doable because the sro has a top load. Trijicon doesn't care about what you want as a consumer.
Aimpoint made a shitty acro the first try, and now it seems like they're using the consumer as beta testers for the p2 because they will not fully release them. They're being released in very small numbers every month or so. And i just saw a post the other day on reddit with a p2 that was fogging from the inside. Aimpoint doesn't give a damn about the civilian consumer market. Just like trijicon, their bread and butter is govt contracts. And that's not going to change. I'm worried sig is about to turn into the samething as a company. Only really worried about getting and fulfilling govt contracts.
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 Because for so many, their gear is a religion. It's elitism. That's why I like Aaron so much. He has a scientific approach and when the data showed that the holosuns are pretty tough, he wasn't afraid to adapt to the new tech. He's not married to an RMR, Aimpoint and ACOG as if they are the only options out there.. I love that.
My Holosun optics have been awesome
Well, I will definitely miss your UA-cam content. One of my favorite UA-cam channels, with a ton of absolutely invaluable information. Sorry to see you go sir. Wishing you all the best over on Patreon though.
Great review, thank you Aaron. It's a pity Trijicon can't keep up with a similar R&D pattern to keep up with market developments like Holosun is just simply cruising through and bringing to market. Nevertheless, we are likely to stick with the Holosun SCS and hope to host you in the new year, if possible, when we're ready to field those units.
Child slave labor has its benefits 😂
Great review. Holosun is the only option for the new S&W 5.7 and it looks like they picked the right sight. Love that it sits low and I don’t have to spend $100 on suppressor sights.
I just got the Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical that’s direct milled for this footprint optic. I’m anxiously checking everyday to see when they’re finally available. I’ve always wanted to use the ring only reticle on a shotgun lol
Thanks for investing the time to produce this video. You always cover the topics exceptionally well.
I like my eps. First one I got had a small crack on the left bottom corner of the back glass. Not right on the corner but a little offset. I didn’t notice it until I mounted it on my pistol. Also one of the screws was stripped so I had to use one I had. It was a bummer but I’ve only had good luck with Holosun and this was a very early one. Biggest problem was getting it replaced due to availability. Got my new one and everything worked great as all my other Holosun products have. Every company gets lemons every once in a while and I would assume Holosun produces a lot of optics. My new one functions as good as my other optics and wouldn’t let my first one turn me off of the eps. I like the size while getting an enclosed optic. Basically the same size as my 507, but lower and enclosed. Only thing to be aware of is finding the right one can be a bit confusing. Mostly due to the website that has it listed. Make sure you get the one you want (eps or eps carry).
Thanks for the video man ,I was going to buy the 507k now I'm going to wait on this one ,thanks man we appreciate you
9:47 Catching that distant lightning in the night vision was pretty cool.
People can hate on Holosun all they want but they're becoming THE choice for handgun red dots. They listen and innovate and do what they can to get something we want, the little things like including several screw sets sets them apart for sure.
I have 4 different Holosun optics and they’ve all been great! I take appreciate the amount of features they pack into them and then price them so there is basically an option for anyone!
Understand you’re not a professional UA-camr, but appreciate your videos. Equipment is very expensive and good to see items I might buy well tested so that I can make informed purchases.
Thank-you! I have one on back order but wanted to see what I was getting
That gun is sprung so well! It returns so flat with that setup!
Radian comp will do that.
Love watching your videos!! Keep it up 🔥
Speaking as an ACRO guy, I think a Glock milled for one of these with the rear iron in front of the optic would be fantastic carrying appendix. That drop off would help break up the silhouette. The rear edge of my ACROs always catch on my shirts
Honestly, I think we can all agree that the fastest guns available are open race guns, and dots on those sit at an height everyone would consider unacceptable on a slide ride dot. It’s just a matter of shooting style as you said. Great work by the way, thanks for the service you provide to everyone in the market for a dot.
I think that the desire for lower mounts, or co-witness w/o suppressor height sights, is so the folks who know irons can -- in their minds -- skip the RDS learning curve. They still have to learn to stop looking for the front sight post. They don't realize they aren't making it any easier, no matter what their "theory" might suggest.
When all you do is index your eyes to the target and present the pistol with the dot in the way, it doesn't matter at what (reasonable) height the optic window sits. Funny how at the same time everyone wants to LARP with NV etc and raise their optics on their rifles, they are screaming to lower them on the pistol. So much rookiedom.
@@seanoneil277 completely agree. The only reasonable argument to lower the optic is to co-witness standard-height irons, as higher front sights often mess up holster compatibility.
This is exciting for me because you can mill an m&p 2.0 for the K footprint and use the standard iron sight and dovetail instead of having to mill a Glock dovetail for the rear and get a mismatched set of sights.
Great review, thanks! This looks like a great option.
You sir set the standard. Cheers from the Philippines
Thanks man you are the OG recoil boss!
Thanks Aaron! Long time sub, first time commenter... Great info, awesome as always. I've purchased 3 dots based off of your tests. Wondering if you have looked into testing the Bul Armory MS series?
Glad a company made something like this. I have a Canik Mete and it requires a micro footprint. I want a dot but don't want a micro on a full sized pistol. The eps is the way I will go.
Thank you man. Really appreciate your videos
Another exceptional installment. “Recoil is stupid.” Fully agree. Grateful.
Great info... thank you... ordered mine...
These get released right when I get off work each week. It's like a little youtube, "hey, let's start this weekend right" nudge
Best value on UA-cam is Aaron. I love that there is a gun channel that doesn’t shove down your throat to like and subscribe. I only trust my barber…And Sage Dynamics.
Thank you for the review. cec holo continues to impress.
6:39 An optic that sits low in the gun is only better (regarding handguns). Sure, you may not ever felt you "needed" it but it does more than just allow co-witness with standard height sights. It also gives you a slighter bigger window (for same height), also gives you less height for the same window (less snag and better for CCW, less printing, etc...). It actually is a huge Pro despite the simple change.
It's virtually insignificant. You're splitting hairs over preference. If you take away the bias and just go off of objective advantage, it's not really changing anything. The best thing about it is that your irons already work as a co-witness and you don't have to get new one's. That to me is not a small thing, and make's the "lower mounting" very appealing and a nice bonus. But I already have a 509T mounted direct on a dedicated optic rail; and I actually prefer it even more, because of the clamp style mounting, just like a 1913 rail.. I never did jump on board the 'micro" pistol ban wagon.. but this thing (and/or EPS Carry), is really making me want to go ahead and grab one. Most likely a p365
For me, it's a big game of muscle memory.... When the optic is mounted lower, the dot comes up exactly where your irons would when u present your pistol on target.
Whether using an optic or not, I can draw the same way same everything... And whether I'm using irons or an optic, it's shows it's self in my sight line every time.
That's why I like lower mounted optics
Your chose of slide color matches my G34 color. Nice choice.
As always. Thank you for the content.
I think the “want it lower, want it lower“ thing isn’t because of presentation/comfort, sitting lower does let you use your oem/or not as high irons and cowitness. I also think a lot of that comes from the use of plates vs paying for a custom cut/milled slide. It seems you don’t care about back up/cowitness irons, but many, like myself do. And call me a whatever, but wont carry a rig, runnin a dot with out usable irons. To each their own. Also, and it’s is a thing, but a lower optic just “looks” better. When the v1 acro dropped, the only thing everyone even talked about was how bulky, dorky, and cumbersome it looked. That said, what a rad time to be into any mrd. The small issues or complaints of a while back are getting addressed, quality and durability are way way up vs yesteryears offerings, price is down, choice is up, battery life is up, nothing but positives all around and it benefits everyone. Great work Aaron. And happy learning/growing all.
thanks for the review as always!!!!!
I just got mine. It’s awesome.
for me, it either the EPS or the 509 that i am gonna mount to my pistols. given what you said about the footprint, i might go with the EPS
You caught a lighning stike with the nods. nice.
I spent the first 16 minutes of the video wondering what the adapter plate/system was. In case you're somewhere earlier in the video and wondering the same thing: it's an Agency Arms "AOS" plate (although I don't yet see an option for the Holosun 'k' footprint on their site), specifically for their AOS slide cut.
Side note: Aaron, if you're reading this, I realize beggars can't be choosers but some constructive criticism I have would be to add a quick overview in the beginning of these types of videos of the gun used to test the product and a disclosure of your relationship with the manufacturer of the product tested/reviewed. Of course, none of this feedback is discounting the value of the content you produce and share--thank you, sir!
This guy has openly announced his affiliation with agency. They actually have a sage pistol for him…
@@NiqHowie To clarify: the company I was referring to in this case is Holosun (not Agency)
The best part about the EPS and EPS carry are that they use the same footprint. For guys deep in other footprints it may be hard to accept, but this could be THE awaited chosen standard footprint. The one to rule them all.
And here I thought my Canik METE was going to require a 507k or EPS Carry... It's encouraging to know I can put a slightly bigger window optic on now.
Now August, 2023, 9 months after this review, I'm thinking about buying an EPS Carry. Before I do, it would be good to know if Holosun will be coming out with a newer model within the next year or two. Would hate to buy now, only to learn that a new version is coming out soon.
Just bought the eps mrs in green. Can't wait to mount it on my CZ-P10C.
I was wondering if you'd ever review a Cyelee pistol red dot? I figured I'd ask since there's a lot of people reviewing and recommending them. Thanks.
Still waiting for my green MRS version to arrive direct from Holosun. It's been on backorder since July...
I have all black Ameriglo Defoor GT-504 sights for backup
Off topic, but I'd like to know which mag extensions you're using and which ones would you recommend? Maybe another video with some drop testing of the different popular mag extensions 🤔?
Probably singing to the preacher, but Swampfox has neat "problem solver" screw kit. Reasonably priced and IIRC shipping was free or ACTUAL first class (like a dollar or something...??). Just throwing it out there for those that don't know. Worth it to pick one up and have them on hand 🤙
Just got one thanks to your review. Can’t wait to pick it up. Thanks. New subscriber here 👍🏽👍🏽
‘I’m not the definitive authority on red dots”… Yes Sir, you are! 😎
Always a great video!
Great video as always !!
Oh how I wish Holosun would get around to making a gold reticle in a pistol optic. My clorblind eyes LOVE the gold on my rifle optic.
Holosun just continues to impress.
Great video comparing between the two Aimpoint Acro P2 vs Holosun EPS MRS price not a concern which optic would you choose?
Nice video and informative. I bought a Tavor X95 5.56. My question to you is, what kind of optic do you recommend for the Tavor X95. Thanks.
The angry/frustrated reload at 7:28… I felt that lol
I have never heard you talk about dot color. I would love to hear your take on green vs red.
Love your videos however, I do believe you prefer a lower optic on the gun. Reference you Agency AOS plate video where you praised how low the optic sat compared to the GLOCK MOS plate.
Also your Staccato P video where your only criticism was how high the plate made the optic sat.
I know opinion change and that could be the case here. I prefer lower optics so I don’t have to worry about mechanical off set at closer distances.
Great video as always. New camera or lens? Something seems different.
My favorite part of this video is 14:34 seeing the concrete blocks being broken and busted in the middle where he is dropping optics on them. My not so favorite part is at 17:03!
AS USUAL...detailed and pertinent evaluation and analysis! Bravo Aaron!! Thank you for providing this non biased review to the public forum. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Oh yeah, I need that carry version.
Best reviews on the internet. Bar none.
There are usually a few guys on ebay who will package 4 screws for what you need. EPS is still fairly new, so they may not have kits yet.
Just got my EPS yesterday for my glock 19. What back up iron sights are recommended for a lower 1/3 co-witness (direct mount w/ optic cut, no plates)
This is how an enclosed optic should look in 2024 and going foward,
Also that's it's so low and you don't need hi iron sights is the way
And lastly it's awesome how holosun is slide matching the optics to the cuts on the gun it's going on and trying to colour match is a really nice move.
no comments on the lightning through night vision off in the distance kinda sick looking
Do you drop test with a full mag? Or, would the extra weight be inconsequential?
I want one of those on an arisaka offset mount.
I have an EPS on an MOS G34. You CAN still see the irons. It’s a functional view if you really need it, however, there are other “my optic went down” methods that don’t require irons.
Which plate did you use?
I have a g45 mos and also would like to know what plate you used to still use the stock iron sights
CHPWS for the plate.
@@mooseroberts4963 thank you
@@silverforever15 like I said, it’s a “functional” view. Not like with the SCS where you see the whole sight. It’s the top half but you could use them.
I think these footprints are going to be good for direct mill on 2011s without plates.
Ill wait for the acss version of this. Perfect
I heard the helo in the background at the end of the video and was really hoping for some aerial footage.
You're the best, thank you!
E, you are one hell of a shot! How did you train yourself to not blink?
Holosun markets this as having Aspherical Glass like the Romeo 2.
Does the EPS have as little distortion as the Romeo 2? How’s the distortion compared to the 509T?
With all the features of the EPS, from the side battery compartment to the solar failsafe, what would you say is "better", RMR or EPS???? One is $150-200 more, has far less features, need to remove to change battery, has a tiny lens, but is proven and reliable; while the other is modern, exciting, functional, and packed with features for 1/4 less in price. I could really use your opinion(s)!!! Thank you
Aaron what is the clear eye pro your wearing and can you get them in prescription lenses?
Are you in the process or do you plan on reviewing the Eotech EFLX?
Damn straight ‼️ Why we watch 💪
I’m apprehensive on getting one. I already have a 507c v2 that I have beat the living hell out of. But I HATE open emitters now. I don’t know how I trust an adapter plate for an rmr cut…
What do you think about the difference in overall size of the EPS vs. the 509T? Is the bigger 509T more distracting while shooting?
On a MOS Glock 17, does the EPS window really sit lower than the 509T, taking the adapter plates into account?
The 509T seems to have a better mounting system (more robust) with the Holosun Glock MOS adapter plate. For the EPS the adapter plate from Holosun seems to have only shallow holes to screw on the sight. There is a MOS plate for the EPS/507k footprint from C&H that uses special nuts for better connection, but this plate is very difficult to get in Europe.
It is lower than 509T because the deck height is already lower. Not really distracting on the 509T because you have a big window, also if you are target focus that would not bother you at all. I have a 509T on my Glock for about two years, zero issues. Mounting wise, now that RADIAN offers the Guardian mount, you can get that in terms of a better mounting solution, adds more protection too.
I have this optic. I got it to piggyback on a lpvo. For night vision. I don’t have night vision yet. But the version I got is 6 moa. Is 6 moa too big for using with night vision