If the difference in potential output of a M+ run is marginal, then "Fun" factor easily wins for me. Just by reading it without even have tried anything on the Alpha or Beta i feel like Fel-Scarred just sound more fun and is more suited to how i like to play Havoc. Aldrachi Reaver sounds like Shadowlands Sinful Brand all over again which i do not like one bit.
i agree so far Fel-scarred just sounds like the better option for me as well considering how i prefer to play the class and since they are close anyway then its an easy option :) have fun in TWW :)
@@vorios6731 That makes absolutely no sense at all. There is no universal point of a videogame. A videogame is supposed to be experienced in however the player deem it to be worth investing their time. Be it fun performance or just straight out afking. just because u don't like that. it's just how it is
I feel like hero talents were a good oportuny to give more build variety to DH. Fel Scarred could have been a master of fel magic, maybe being in demon form 24/7, and give players the choice of not using momentum/inertia. Aldrachi could have been a master of blades with more variety.
I'm ready for a DH ranged spec. Kinda like that pvp ability where you fly up in demon form and rain fire. Give us some cool stuff where we hover around and shoot stuff while moving kinda like a hunter. IDK.
As someone that had decided to level other char than dh due to the Aldrachi tree be so Good, it may me change my opinion on keep playing this class with this changes. Keep the good work Jedith!
It is an ok stand point for the time being there is most def. tuning once the new season and Raid is released. I don't expect to be topping the meters as Havoc with these changes but I am eager to try and master both specs.
I'm not exactly super excited about these talents. Seems like we'll be forced in to reaver on single target fights and have to choose which parts of the fight we want to be inferior on during fights with adds. Want to be on par with everyone during single target and be outdpsed whenever adds spawn? Reaver. Want to do so little single target dmg that when adds spawn your uncapped aoe does not make any difference especially when everyone's geared and adds melt away in no time? Scared. Seems like a lose/lose in raid. Especially when half the fights nowadays have some form of adds. Not to mention reaver will be impossible to use efficiently in most aoe and even some single target fights due to transitions, timing due to some transitions being based on boss hp, a.k.a. highly depends on your groups performance on each pull, the rng element of lesser soul fragments and similar issues.
Let's just try another class for now. I mean, what reason does blizzard have to change the class when so many people play it? It is extremely popular despite always feeling like it gets the short end of the stick in terms of gameplay. Time to get off this class and send a message. That's how I feel about it for now. I will play frost DK. Maybe unholy DK. Just for a while until DH gets reworked. Gotta love that DH movement.
@@Jedithtv appreciate your work! on 12:30 you did say, that they are reducing our leech, but on beta and live our leech are still the same, is this a hidden nerf or just tooltip issue?
Thanks for the best breakdown I've seen yet. I main VDH for M+, and offspec Havoc for a casual H raid guild. No-mover Aldrachi should be manageable for offspec raid. VDH will of course be FS M+.
If not going to be high single target but burst AoE then HP and armor should be buffed just so if you pull aggro you can survive better. They should redo this change as it looks like whomever designed it originally knew what they were doing. 'Huge uncapped AoE=Aggro so let's buff survivability for that burst'.
Why do people keep saying no movement build is good when every build still plays initiative? If we're still forced into initiative then we're being forced into a movement talent.
If you’re speaking in terms of dragonflight S4, it was predicted we’d use no mover due to trinkets like cataclysmic signet brand and anvil having good interactions with our spammable abilities. What we didn’t anticipate was that bosses in the awakened season would die well before the 5 minute mark needed for those trinkets to ramp up. So in 1-3 min boss fights, it’s better to increase your windows of burst with inertia. The difference in TWW and the reason we’re expecting to run No Mover in raid is because keeping Reavers Mark on the boss with Aldrachi really needs us to stay IN melee range, rather than me moving in and out. Both hero talent trees provide extra functions and mechanics that may help no mover because a more realistic option
Gotta keep in mind this large gap everyone is referring to is single target. That is only a handful of raid bosses. Aldrachi is also oversimming by quite a bit for a few reasons. Main one being that reavers glaive is off the gcd which will more than likely get changed. Putting Reavers glaive on the global equates to like 25 less globals used in a 5 min sim and actually drops it by a lot. Also just due to important player skill is, there’s always a choice. A great player using fel scarred will always perform better than a bad Aldrachi player
I think they do care, but I personally don't vibe with the class anymore either. I'll still be checking the jedith videos and of course I will return one day, but I'm not excited about where the class has gone since release.
From day 1 DH was kind of the forgotten child. They added it, it was dope for a while in Legion. Then nothing exciting happened for DH. The reworks never felt substantial. All this time since Legion and we're still playing a very similar style. Class just always gets the bland changes.
Kinda sad to see Havoc in this state (not balance but gameplay). Probably an unpopular opinion, but I feel like the spec design has been pretty shit for multiple expansions now. And I'm not talking about mover vs no mover, I'm talking about the lack of vision and how all the talents are just all over the place design wise.
What is the point of this video if your just stealing and Re-reading the WoW head info ?? pros and cons and stuff your not really showing how wow head info is incorrect nor adding additional pro or con to a select builds type. why dont you make video of your own content vs steal wow heads hard work and reading it in your video thats of no valid additional points. dont be a loser content maker basically
@@Jedithtv that’s fair, it’s probably just not a video for me because I already read it and I don’t really want to skip through looking for your thoughts. Didn’t mean to come off abrasive.
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Fel scarred should have just had an entirely new demon form during meta.
@@fatalsmite5833 dawg spitting 🙌🏾
we are long overdue having some meta barber shop things to edit tbh!
If the difference in potential output of a M+ run is marginal, then "Fun" factor easily wins for me.
Just by reading it without even have tried anything on the Alpha or Beta i feel like Fel-Scarred just sound more fun and is more suited to how i like to play Havoc.
Aldrachi Reaver sounds like Shadowlands Sinful Brand all over again which i do not like one bit.
i agree so far Fel-scarred just sounds like the better option for me as well considering how i prefer to play the class and since they are close anyway then its an easy option :) have fun in TWW :)
@@runejensen3321 Yeah
i feel you...lets hope for the best lol
If you don't enjoy a playstyle and still play it for performance you are totally missing the point of video games and need to rethink your priorities
@@vorios6731 That makes absolutely no sense at all.
There is no universal point of a videogame.
A videogame is supposed to be experienced in however the player deem it to be worth investing their time.
Be it fun performance or just straight out afking.
just because u don't like that. it's just how it is
I feel like hero talents were a good oportuny to give more build variety to DH.
Fel Scarred could have been a master of fel magic, maybe being in demon form 24/7, and give players the choice of not using momentum/inertia.
Aldrachi could have been a master of blades with more variety.
Oh oh and with customization of our demon form! That would be so awesome 😢😢
I'm ready for a DH ranged spec. Kinda like that pvp ability where you fly up in demon form and rain fire. Give us some cool stuff where we hover around and shoot stuff while moving kinda like a hunter. IDK.
"I know Demon Hunters want to be the king of everything" bro why you gotta call me out like that 😭🤣
As someone that had decided to level other char than dh due to the Aldrachi tree be so Good, it may me change my opinion on keep playing this class with this changes. Keep the good work Jedith!
It is an ok stand point for the time being there is most def. tuning once the new season and Raid is released. I don't expect to be topping the meters as Havoc with these changes but I am eager to try and master both specs.
I'm not exactly super excited about these talents. Seems like we'll be forced in to reaver on single target fights and have to choose which parts of the fight we want to be inferior on during fights with adds. Want to be on par with everyone during single target and be outdpsed whenever adds spawn? Reaver. Want to do so little single target dmg that when adds spawn your uncapped aoe does not make any difference especially when everyone's geared and adds melt away in no time? Scared.
Seems like a lose/lose in raid. Especially when half the fights nowadays have some form of adds.
Not to mention reaver will be impossible to use efficiently in most aoe and even some single target fights due to transitions, timing due to some transitions being based on boss hp, a.k.a. highly depends on your groups performance on each pull, the rng element of lesser soul fragments and similar issues.
Let's just try another class for now. I mean, what reason does blizzard have to change the class when so many people play it? It is extremely popular despite always feeling like it gets the short end of the stick in terms of gameplay. Time to get off this class and send a message. That's how I feel about it for now. I will play frost DK. Maybe unholy DK. Just for a while until DH gets reworked. Gotta love that DH movement.
"hey raid leader, hold on while i change this around, every pull". sheesh.
I mean, most classes have different builds per situation. Single target, cleave, aoe.
That’s the whole point of options
@@Jedithtv appreciate your work! on 12:30 you did say, that they are reducing our leech, but on beta and live our leech are still the same, is this a hidden nerf or just tooltip issue?
Thanks for the best breakdown I've seen yet. I main VDH for M+, and offspec Havoc for a casual H raid guild. No-mover Aldrachi should be manageable for offspec raid. VDH will of course be FS M+.
so fel scarred is more for mythic and drac is pvp?
I expect the hero talent visuals to get reworked for 11.05 or 11.1
PRAYGE 🙏
If not going to be high single target but burst AoE then HP and armor should be buffed just so if you pull aggro you can survive better. They should redo this change as it looks like whomever designed it originally knew what they were doing. 'Huge uncapped AoE=Aggro so let's buff survivability for that burst'.
Good stuff! I love how in depth you go, makes me excited to play fel scarred in TWW!
I'll be playing Aldrachi.. like using Throw Glaive.
Chuck them glaives homie
Burning blade got nerfed from 60% to 35% and still Annhilation isn’t embedded into it. Fel Scarred is 10% behind AR.
10% will not be enough for ppl to play the clearly very boring spec
Why do people keep saying no movement build is good when every build still plays initiative? If we're still forced into initiative then we're being forced into a movement talent.
If you’re speaking in terms of dragonflight S4, it was predicted we’d use no mover due to trinkets like cataclysmic signet brand and anvil having good interactions with our spammable abilities. What we didn’t anticipate was that bosses in the awakened season would die well before the 5 minute mark needed for those trinkets to ramp up.
So in 1-3 min boss fights, it’s better to increase your windows of burst with inertia.
The difference in TWW and the reason we’re expecting to run No Mover in raid is because keeping Reavers Mark on the boss with Aldrachi really needs us to stay IN melee range, rather than me moving in and out. Both hero talent trees provide extra functions and mechanics that may help no mover because a more realistic option
Aldrachi for raid/single target is a must?
I just wanna feel like Illidan 8(
We need an in depth vid like this for all specs :-)
he mains a DH
If fel scarred is so behind on ST is it really a choice for m+? Probably not to be fair.
Gotta keep in mind this large gap everyone is referring to is single target. That is only a handful of raid bosses.
Aldrachi is also oversimming by quite a bit for a few reasons. Main one being that reavers glaive is off the gcd which will more than likely get changed. Putting Reavers glaive on the global equates to like 25 less globals used in a 5 min sim and actually drops it by a lot.
Also just due to important player skill is, there’s always a choice. A great player using fel scarred will always perform better than a bad Aldrachi player
Reaver sounds kinda sick. I don’t really understand the controversy.
Blizzard don't care about DH, I'm switching class this expac
Bye bye you’ll be back next patch
I think they do care, but I personally don't vibe with the class anymore either. I'll still be checking the jedith videos and of course I will return one day, but I'm not excited about where the class has gone since release.
Well, after playing only my DH since Legion, it's time to turn the page. Everything looks so lame with nothing new. I'm a bit sad about what they did
From day 1 DH was kind of the forgotten child. They added it, it was dope for a while in Legion. Then nothing exciting happened for DH. The reworks never felt substantial. All this time since Legion and we're still playing a very similar style. Class just always gets the bland changes.
Which one will you be playing jedith?
Real gamers play both!
Wouldnt real gamers play a better class….? LOL
@@avp726 real gamers play a class they love and don’t just follow the meta. I bet you’re gonna play arcane mage now aren’t ya?
Kinda sad to see Havoc in this state (not balance but gameplay). Probably an unpopular opinion, but I feel like the spec design has been pretty shit for multiple expansions now. And I'm not talking about mover vs no mover, I'm talking about the lack of vision and how all the talents are just all over the place design wise.
Fairly happy with how everything turned out. I do wish Fel-Scarred had the extra defensive talents where you would need them most in M+. Oh well.
Such a missed opportunity to give BOTH hero talent specs some fresh new visuals. Disappointing 😞
fel-scarred it is!
Have fun!
I think Aldrachi gameplay sounds way more interesting. I’ve never liked shattered souls at all, but I still see myself playing it over felscarred.
31:50 I don't know bro, if you hate movement just go play war what can we say
Funny enough warrior USED to incorporate movement by needing to leap out and charge back in to generate rage
What is the point of this video if your just stealing and Re-reading the WoW head info ?? pros and cons and stuff your not really showing how wow head info is incorrect nor adding additional pro or con to a select builds type. why dont you make video of your own content vs steal wow heads hard work and reading it in your video thats of no valid additional points. dont be a loser content maker basically
Hey man, why don’t you make your own videos? Follow your own advice
no offense brother but Im more concerned about your opinions and interpretation of this stuff than the recitation of the article.
Then you should actually watch the video and hear what I have to say about it
@@Jedithtv that’s fair, it’s probably just not a video for me because I already read it and I don’t really want to skip through looking for your thoughts. Didn’t mean to come off abrasive.
@@Zoho-Wow I read the first couple paragraphs but do a lot of explaining and go on tangents after. Just takes a min or two of patience
@Jedithtv I actually like the combination. I feel like I am getting 2 for 1, both opinions, kind of like hanging out in Havoc discord. :)