I actually bought the 10-18 for real estate photography and had to return it. It consistently made a magenta ghosting effect at windows, chandeliers and any bright spot in the photo. I bought a used 10-22 and was much happier. No ghosting on the old 10-22.
This video helped me out greatly several years back when I first started shooting with canon glass. One thing I have since learned is that 10-18 has some seriously crazy lens flares when shooting towards a light fixture such as a chandelier, etc. I shoot real estate so this happens often. I also have the tokina 11-16 and it produces 0 lens flares when shot in the same situation as the 10-18. I just bought the 10-22 to try out now and hoping it is like the tokina with less flares because I really like that 1mm extra width from the canon. Tokina definitely has more chromatic aberrations (easy enough to fix in post). Figured I would add my 2-cents to anyone curious on how these do for real estate.
@@luisungredda9029 yes, it is 100% usable. I used the 10-18 professionally for years and it is easy enough to edit out the lens flares. They typically show up around unshaded light sources like chandeliers. I still have one of my shooters using the 10-18 daily for property shoots. I personally use the 10-22 now if on a crop canon and my 15mm Loawa if on my full frame sony. It just saves me a bit of time not editing out the flares but again its not every picture, just when pointed at an open light source. Hope that helps,
@@nishanketbaniya9476 really depends on what kind of work you are planning to do with it. I shoot real estate so a full manual lens works well for me. Loawa does a 15mm full manual (focus and aperture) lens for canon full frame. Reason I like loawa is because they have a zero distortion and f2.0 is great for low light interior video. Look up on B&H Photos website "Venus Laowa 15mm f/2 FE Zero-D Lens for Canon EOS." That is my go-to for real estate. Lens is on the pricy side for full manual for the zero distortion and high quality image saves me a lot of time from post process editing. If you need auto focus, probably go with one of canons 16mm full frame options. They have several like a 16-35, but I am very happy with my laowa. If you need a more budget friendly full frame lens, Rokinon has several. Their 14mm puts out a decent image but you will have distortion that you have to correct in post processing. I have used all of these at one point. Best of luck!
Just realized PhotoRec Tv has a video comp for the Laowa lens as well. His videos are super helpful seeing comparisons like these. ua-cam.com/video/JlRf7jIMy8E/v-deo.html
I own the 10 - 22 for about a year and I think if I had to choose once again, I would still buy the 10 - 22. USM is more trustworthy than STM with my 7D, more light than 10 - 18 and, don't forget, that 22 mm on crop sensor is about 35 on FF - which is wide standard and works pretty good in repo.
Canon 10-18mm is miles better than other lenses in this comparison. It gives equal sharpness BUT is much better at chromatic aberation than Tokina, much quieter and smoother in video capturing, has IS, and can focus very close. Slower f-stop doesn't mean anything, as it has aforementioned IS, and with it it actually becomes more capable of taking handheld sharper pictures in low light than any other lens here. It is slower maybe 1-2 stops, but it is compensating this with 4 stops capable IS ! Today's DSLR mostly have excellent ISO performances, so that doesn't matter too. And is cheapest lens here..all in all great lens for money.
I have the Canon 10-18, and the Tokina 11-16. Tokina for low light stuff and in doors, as I don't find the Canon isn't much use after dark. Having said that, the Tokina flares terribly in night street photography, the Canon is better if the scene is a non moving one. The Canon is brilliant in the daytime, and is ultra quiet and ultra light if you need to carry it around all day, like I do. However, the Tokina is also brilliant in the day, and produces lovely starpoints/starburst when you stop it down. The main drawback is the Tokina weighs a ton in comparison to the Canon, and doesn't focus nowhere as close to the subject if you need that. For video, use the Canon; for photography use the Tokina. If you use the Canon for photography, make sure you have light or a flash.
Most of what I shoot is video indoors in basement so I require the STM and larger aperture. I have video lighting but not sufficient for even my 18-55 at F3.5 without pushing the ISO. It's too bad Canon doesn't have an F2.8 at higher price point. It will cost me a couple hundred just to get sufficient lighting for F4.5. I'd rather that money go into a more robust lens.
I really appreciated your video. It's about one mounth i'm thinking to buy one of this three objectives, and today i've bought the canon 10 - 18. I'm waiting from Amazon. And than i saw your video. Happy to see i've done the right choise.
I love night time photography. The Tokina really is the only choice. Philip Bloom has recommend it at 16mm for a FF camera. Ive tried it on a 5DMII and found it to be crazy wide but usable (smidgen of vinette). However I bought the Canon 10-18mm for daytime shooting, and which now I will try for silky smooth water falls. I like to shoot inside Cathedrals when I travel and found the 10-18mm was very weak in these darker sanctuaries (ISO cranked adds grain, and the shadows were unacceptable). Thanx for your review.
It seems I always seek out these comparisons after the fact, but it's nice to see I chose the right lens! I had ordered the 10-18mm on a $299.00(Canadian) boxing day deal, but then was considering a used Tokina at the same price. The Tokina owner is out of town, so I couldn't pull the trigger; glad I didn't. Thanks for a great comparison review of exactly the three lenses I was considering, your effort and expertise are greatly appreciated. 🙏
I was torn between the Canon 10 - 18 and the Tokina 11 - 16 but this video helped me clear my ideas! I was really looking for a review like this with the photo and video comparison (with also the sound, as I was thinking about using the lens also for shooting some videos). Thank you much! You gained a subscriber! ☺️
I have a 7D with a couple of L lenses, 70-200f2.8L non is, 17-40 f4L,(my general walk around zoom lens), and was looking for a wide angle crop lens for my Canon. I found great information and specs with your video on these 3 lenses that I'm currently considering. I think I might have a winner with the 10-18 Canon. I definitely needed this range to be completely covered. Thanks for this great informative video.
I came from the Tamron 10-24mm which always had distortion on the edges(old model not new), but i worked with what I had then. Just two months ago I got the 77D, what was my first choice for UWA lens? the Canon 10-18mm stm, trust me all the reviews are NOT wrong about this lens its painfully sharp right across the lens. I would have got the Tokina for low light work, but I really don't need 2.8 in a bright sunny part of the World that I live in. Toby is right, unless your doing star trails and night time landscape the Canon will trounce the Tokina every time. Thanks for a great comparison Toby, love your reviews, always balance and sensible conclusions built on hard facts and your experience.
Tokina has a significant amount of ghosting and flarring when pointed yowards light sources, whereas the canon copes with those issues much more elegantly
Great video even after ten years. I love the 10 - 18. I bought a metal mount replacement part for the plastic mount. I got it on Amazon and the install was easy.
I'm looking for a wide angle to have a better reach at shooting fireworks shows. I'm not sure if I should pick the Tokina, on of the Canons or even the Sigma 10-20mm. What would you recommend ? I don't like the fact that the 10-18mm Canon is full plastic.
Thanks a lot for the detailed review. I was confused between 10-188mm and 10-22mm since the former has a plastic mount. This review helped me a lot. Going for the 10-18mm.
Thank you for making this review. I have been making tons of notes have had the hardest darn time figuring out which features are worth giving up on a wide angle lens and which I will be using more. Your straight to the point, non boasting personality also make you enjoyable to watch. So many people start off talking for so long that I have to fast forward to get to the actual info. Thanks again, I will check ya out on Facebook!
Good morning there, would like your honest opinion bro. sigma 10-20, tamron 10-24, tokina 11-16 and the tokina 12-24.. between the four 3rd party lenses.. which suits me most? i am doing weddings, outdoors/landscaping and a lil bit of video. am using a nikon d7100. thanks :)
I would like to ask for your opinion. I'm going to buy canon 60D but I'm not sure about the lenses. I have a dilemma: canon 50mm 1.8 + 10-18mm 4.5-5.6 OR sigma 17-50 2.8?
In my view the 10-18 has too many issues with flaring and ghosting of light sources, be it windows or light bulbs. I have owned the 10-18 for 2 years and recently purchased the 10-22 and the ghosting has completely disappeared from my interior real estate photography meaning i spend much less time in post fixing the ghosting,, the extra $300 for the 10-22 over the 10-18 is worth it for the time savings in post production.
If I do have a bad lens, I'm not the only one, the online research I have done seems to indicate that it is a fairly common issue, especially within the real estate photography sector.
ep I tested the 10-18 from canon and tested with sigma 10-20 and tokina 11-16... 10-18 has problems with light bulb flares sun and in some cases ghosting ... but I will buy it anyway is a cheep lens and very sharp, I like the macro shoots to:)) I shoot landscape so it will wor for me, but if anyone work with direct light I don't recommended
Agree. Unfortunately I haven't tried the other lenses and I'm itching to resolve this. The flare is in about 50% of my interior real estate shots. Outside it's not as much a problem with the lens hood, but I'm not as happy with my 10-18mm as all these reviewers seem to be but it's when comparing to the other limited choices for a crop.
I just purchased the Tokina 11 - 20mm from Amazon. The Focus Mechanism is not working. I am about to return it... I really NEED the f/2.8 because most of my photos and video work is in dark night clubs. I will go purchase the Canon 10 - 18mm instead. I seem to have problems with NON CANON lenses. I also have the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. It focuses too slow for what I do. I rented the Tokina 11 - 16 from Adorama to test to see if I would like it before I purchased the Tokina and I loved it. Now my lens arrives in the mail and it's not working.... UGGGGGG!!!! So I will STICK TO CANON LENSES!!!! Thank you for your ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL AND HELPFUL REVIEWS. They are much needed and appreciated.
Excellent review that helped me so much with making up my mind about which wide angle lens to buy. Every second of the video really well used. And you did it with no cuts :) Thank you.
Hi Toby, I have 70d + 18-135mm lens. I like to shoot landscape a lot and start consider to buy a wide angle lens. Do you still recommend I buy 10-18mm? What's pros that 10-18mm over 18-135mm besides the wider angle? Is image quality better? sharper? Appreciate you thoughts in advance
thank for the review. I've bought the 10-18mm because of all the glowing reviews everywhere. I have a 17-40mm but I wanted an even wider lens and this seems to be the best one (for cropped sensors)
Nice breakdown on the lenses, so excited I just bought my 10-18mm lens online about to get it this week. Thank you man. I ant wait to do my vlogs with it.
Hi Toby,I looked at your review on the Sigma 17-70. Thank you for that. I'm now thinking of buying one. Here where i live i can buy a refurbished one for 400 US or the older version for around 300 US. Is the newer version much better than the last should i save myself a hundred US and go with the older model? What would you do?
I have used the Canon 10-22 for a few years now and it is great! However, I suffer from G.A.S. (gear acquisition syndrome) and may just have to pick up that 10-18 for video with that STM quietness! Thanks for your reviews with video AND pics.
Hi, for a real estate video, wich one is better brother? thanks for the answer, i think tokina is the best option because the interior of the houses.. isnt it?
Honestly all three would do well. Inside a house where it is dark the faster aperture could help but really you want good depth of field inside always so you should be on a tripod.
can you help on a huge doubt ? wich one to buy, canon 10/22mm - canon 10/18mm or sigma 8/16mm i saw some sample videos of sigma and shes really sharp and rectilinea...do you think is worth to paying for the almost 800 dollares on sigma ?! thanks...
Yes, it is perfect for that. Ususally you have plenty of light for these shots for at f4.5 and you would use f5.6 or f8 for the best sharpness and DOF anyways. The focus is fast and silent, the angle of view is perfect.
Greatly appreciate this video. I will be purchasing the Canon 10-18mm after much debate and watching this video. Definitely cleared it up for me, and allowed me the ability to make a sound choice. Great work, you have a new subscriber from here on out! - James, DJMP
I have a Canon EOS 5D Mark111 with EF 24-105 mm lens. I have recently taken up photography as a hobby and am looking for a good Wide-Angle lens for my camera. I would like to know which one to buy as I know nothing about lenses.
For the money the 10-18 gives you great versatility. For the quality and low light performance the 14mm would be my second choice. Manual focus only though.
Thank you! this is the best video on youtube displaying the auto focus noise! a lot of other reviewers either skip this issue or don't compare the sounds! I'll be getting the 10-18 for the silence :)
I have a question. I have a sony A3000 mirrorless and a adaptor for canon efs. Will this work manually well on my camera ?? I don't really care about the auto focus
Thank you for the good review. I just bought USED Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX lens for my Canon 70D and found that auto focus does not focusing correct especially at the short distance and need to be corrected with manual focus but my other lenses are fine. Would like to have your opinion, please, do you think is something wrong with the lens or ...? Thank you.
Hi i have canon 650d and im looking for a wide angle lens for landscapes shooting, im not gonna shoot any stars. i saw there is a Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM lens but im not sure which lend is better for me - the one above or the tokina 11-16 thanx for ur help. Shay.
I am planning to buy a wide angle lens ,but I don't know which one of these I should go with. Canon 10-18mm or the Tokina 11-16mm or the sigma 10-20mm I also want a lens between this range 10 to this range 50 which is not possible in one lens. I have the canon 28-135 and I am thinking of selling it and buying the tamron 16-300 what do you recommend me?
I am using a canon 18-135 IS STM ...and i can it's a very silent a razor sharp new technology lens ..the 10-18 will surely do good job ..thanks for the video
The 10-22 f3.5-4.5 USM is the classic alrounder; good range, and good aperture. The 10-18 f4.5-5.6 IS STM is a good entry level UWA that is small, lightweight, cheap and the STM is great for videos, but limited zoom range and limited low light. The Tokina 11-16 f2.8 is great for wide aperture, but very limited range.
Great, very illustrative content, thanks! Two years after this video, would you still recommend the 10-18mm as an add on to an APS-C setup or as a travel lens?
Thank you so much for your answer, after watching this video and the full review I am convinced and I'm heading to the photo store to purchase one. Thanks again an keep doing videos!
Here in the UK, the Sigma/C 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 DG HSM II is cheaper to rent than the Tokina 11-16. Have you come across the Sigma ? Your opinion please.
Very nice video Toby. I'm deciding if i should get the Tokina or the canon 10-18 though i like the tokina more than the canon. I have the 18-135mm stm so i dont really need another stm. I love the f2.8 good for shooting night sky/scene and the only thing the downside it doesn't have IS.. but does it matter if i shoot for landscape outdoors aswell? Help would be appreciate.
I don't really take many indoor photos. Looking for more of a Landscape lens and trying to get into night/star photography. I already have a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8. Which of the 10-18 or the 11-16 would you recommend? Or would you maybe recommend a prime lens (ie 20mmf2.8)?
Came across your video today. Love the comparisons. U explained all very well and at an understandable pace. I will buy that 10-18mm lens for my Canon EOS 800D. It will suit my Real Estate well.
if I already have 10-18mm, would the 11-16mm F/2.8 Tokina be worth the upgrade cost? Sometimes I can't setup a light and vlog in lower light conditions. Since I record at 24fps, I run 1/50, but with the 10-18mm, that means the widest aperture I can run is F/4.5 which makes me have to use 400ISO or 800ISO. I'd like to be able to use 200ISO at least.
Hi Toby, I hadn't heard of your channel before today. Whilst looking at sample images from members of a forum, I came across a link to this comparison. Was very useful, thank you. I shall be subscribing!
What about the Sigma 10-20? I want an ultra wide to start with landscapes and I've seen the Sigma 10-20, Canon 10-18 and the Tokina you mentioned. The fact is: I red a lot of nice reviews about the Canon 10-18(as you said no reasons to consider the 10-22) but it's way cheaper and "plasticky" so I wonder: if I have the budget would the Sigma/Tokina be better or the Canon price is just fooling me for no reason? What do you think of the Sigma?
If I want to try some nature wide angle photography and have a small budget would it be better to start with the canon 10-18 or the 24 prime in your opinion?
Jeanette Kalchik You have the 18-55 or 18-135 now? how often do you wish you could go wider than 18? If often get the 10-18 otherwise get the 24mm prime. (which prime are we talking about? ua-cam.com/video/nzUujWJmz_Y/v-deo.html)
Hello there, will my EOS 70D can use this??? And how can I determine a lenses that compatible with my EOS 70D Another question, Does other brand of lenses is compatible with my CANON EOS 70D in a random way?:) I am really having a hard time to chose a lenses. But one thing I need is a wide angle lenses for landscape :)
Randall. There are two things you need to know. You have a canon crop sensor camera. 1.6 crop factor. So: canon camera=Ef Mount. Canon crop sensor camera=Ef-S Mount. A Ef lens is compatible with a crop sensor camera. But a Ef-s lens is NOT compatible with a full frame camera.
Then according to you the best lens is the canon 10-18? I have that lens and I wanted to buy new tokina 11 20 mm 2.8 Now I changed idea. I remain with my old cheap 10-18. Thanks
Between the canon 10-22 and the 10-80 which one would you recommend? I'm not a professional photographer but I'm a big fan of the super wide angle lens.
Thanks for your really useful video, of all the reviews on the 10-18mm lens, I found this to be the most informative. A wide angle lens is something I have been sitting on the fence on for a while, mainly justifying the cost. Helps that the 10-18mm is the same filter size (67mm) as 18-135mm, saving lots on extra filters! Could I just ask, how does the 10-18mm perform on long exposures, I know you said no starry skies, but what about dawn and dusk shots? PS. Sorry but I don't shop from B&H, mostly due to the customs charges that I'd be dealing with. Believe Amazon UK also give commissions? Not sure about DigitalRev or Onestopdigital?
I assumed that the new Canon would be a "cheaper" lens than the Tokina because of the brand premium bit. But looking at that chormatic aberration from the Tokina... it just put off buying it! I fount it second hand for 165 euros, vs 225 for the Canon brand new. I think I'll save up for the Canon.
Very good review. Had to hit the subscribe. I just got the Sigma 17-50mm but I am missing that wide angle so this review was very helpful. Keep 'em coming.
Hi, I am a nikon user so do not have the option to go with canon 10-18mm (i wish i could have a canon camera especially for wide angle lens), anyways...please could you advise whether i can go ahead with the (Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX II AF 11 - 16 mm f/2.8). I want a wide angle lens which will last for atleast a decade with me and i can use it for any landscape shoot. Please comment, thanks :)
Hi, thanks for great review! I am looking for wide angle lens to shoot for mainly night photography. I currently have 30mm f/1.4 sigma. which does great photos in the dark but obviously it doesnt zoom and many times its frustrating because things like buildings and night sky don't fit. so I am leaning toward tokina 11-16. it seems to me for the price it is the best choice. what do you think?
So this review was very helpful. I am starting out in real estate photography and I am still divided between the Canon 10-18 and the Tokina 11-16 because of the aperture. Shouldn't I opt for the Tokina to let in the maximum light for shooting indoors? What would be the best purchase for me? Thanks!
Hi Marisa, The Tokina is a safer choice here because of that larger maximum aperture but for many of your indoor shots you will likely be on a tripod and can do longer exposures AND you don't always want to shoot at just f/2.8 with the Tokina, the wider aperture makes your depth of field a little shallower and images not as sharp. Happy to chat more, follow me on facebook.com/Digital.Photo.Recommendations
Hi, I have a question. I know that Rokinon FE14M-C 14mm F2.8 wasn't mentioned in this video, but I just couldn't find any comparisons between it and Canon 10-18mm. In case you tested both, can I ask, which one of them would you recommend for video recording more? They are both at pretty similar price point right now and I am not sure which one to choose. Thank you very much for your time. :)
hi there, many thanks for the video, its very helpfull for many questions about this class lensess. i want to ask you about tokina 11-16 f:2.8 because i have the canon 10-18 mm lens for my apsc camera and i really didnt like its video sharpness. i am using tamron24-70 mm on my full frame dslr camera, tamron's wide angle sharpness and contrass is very well for for my video works. but on my second camera -7dmark ii apsc- the 10-18 is a disapointment for me. Maybe i am talking between very different lens classes but i want to ask you is tokina can solve my problem? or what do you suggest for me?
I have had my 70D since they first came out last year, ...also had my 10-22mm since before that. Got my Sigma 18-35mm 6mos ago and since then, I really haven't used my 10-22mm anymore. Hard to go back after having f1.8 and haven't found any real reason for the extra 8mm of width. The one time I did use it though, it was for a wedding reception indoors, but was going back and forth needing that f1.8 over the 10mm. Had I had the 10-18 STM IS, it still wouldn't have been useful since everyone was moving around. So really, it's up to what you're using it for if you need that 10mm.
I have been looking for a wide angel lens for more than a year. I have a Canon 7D camera and still only have the 18-55mm kit lens. I would like to buy an EF lens due to eventual camera upgrade. What lens would you recommend in the EF wide angel range?
I will have some thoughts to share about this in my write up coming later this week but I still go Canon 10-18 unless you REALLY want 8mm. Downsides of sigma - no filters and it is pricey.
Those first two photos you showed (the mountain range/fence and the flowers) were those images straight from the camera or was there touching up in lightroom?
Great video! What would you recommend as being the most cost effective Camera and Lens for a vlogger, a lot of moving objects at times, and still videos too? Ideally, I want a Canon 70D with the 10-18 lens but is there a cheaper one that can get the job done?
Just got a used 10-22mm at KEH excellent rate at $117.00 for my R7. it is a bargain lens. It is super fast and images are clear. I did look at those kit lens RF for the R7 but build quality is not compared to the old EF-S lens.
Hey Toby, I have question. Does your 70D body make light rattling sound if you shake it ? it sound like there is something loose inside. I also noticed some rattling sound coming from inside the lens (canon EFS 10-22) and that zoom and focus rings have slight back and forth wiggle to it along with front of the lens hood( where it says "canon zoom lens...") very lightly wiggle side to side. I just bought this kit and not sure if I should be concern?
I actually bought the 10-18 for real estate photography and had to return it. It consistently made a magenta ghosting effect at windows, chandeliers and any bright spot in the photo. I bought a used 10-22 and was much happier. No ghosting on the old 10-22.
This video helped me out greatly several years back when I first started shooting with canon glass. One thing I have since learned is that 10-18 has some seriously crazy lens flares when shooting towards a light fixture such as a chandelier, etc. I shoot real estate so this happens often. I also have the tokina 11-16 and it produces 0 lens flares when shot in the same situation as the 10-18. I just bought the 10-22 to try out now and hoping it is like the tokina with less flares because I really like that 1mm extra width from the canon. Tokina definitely has more chromatic aberrations (easy enough to fix in post). Figured I would add my 2-cents to anyone curious on how these do for real estate.
Is the 10-18 still usable? Or is there a way to mitigate the lense flares?
@@luisungredda9029 yes, it is 100% usable. I used the 10-18 professionally for years and it is easy enough to edit out the lens flares. They typically show up around unshaded light sources like chandeliers. I still have one of my shooters using the 10-18 daily for property shoots. I personally use the 10-22 now if on a crop canon and my 15mm Loawa if on my full frame sony. It just saves me a bit of time not editing out the flares but again its not every picture, just when pointed at an open light source. Hope that helps,
@@ThePhotoForce thanks my man
@@nishanketbaniya9476 really depends on what kind of work you are planning to do with it. I shoot real estate so a full manual lens works well for me. Loawa does a 15mm full manual (focus and aperture) lens for canon full frame. Reason I like loawa is because they have a zero distortion and f2.0 is great for low light interior video. Look up on B&H Photos website "Venus Laowa 15mm f/2 FE Zero-D Lens for Canon EOS." That is my go-to for real estate. Lens is on the pricy side for full manual for the zero distortion and high quality image saves me a lot of time from post process editing. If you need auto focus, probably go with one of canons 16mm full frame options. They have several like a 16-35, but I am very happy with my laowa. If you need a more budget friendly full frame lens, Rokinon has several. Their 14mm puts out a decent image but you will have distortion that you have to correct in post processing. I have used all of these at one point. Best of luck!
Just realized PhotoRec Tv has a video comp for the Laowa lens as well. His videos are super helpful seeing comparisons like these. ua-cam.com/video/JlRf7jIMy8E/v-deo.html
Best comparison video between 10-18 & 11-16
I've been looking at reviews for the 10-18mm lens and this review is the best because you show how close you can get compared to the others. Thanks!
I own the 10 - 22 for about a year and I think if I had to choose once again, I would still buy the 10 - 22. USM is more trustworthy than STM with my 7D, more light than 10 - 18 and, don't forget, that 22 mm on crop sensor is about 35 on FF - which is wide standard and works pretty good in repo.
Great video! I’m using the 10-18mm for my real estate videos. Love the ultra wide angle capabilities it offers. Thanks!
Which on would you recommend for filming shortfilms and landscape fotography? 10 - 18 because of the IS or the 11 - 16 because of the f 2.8?
Canon 10-18mm is miles better than other lenses in this comparison. It gives equal sharpness BUT is much better at chromatic aberation than Tokina, much quieter and smoother in video capturing, has IS, and can focus very close. Slower f-stop doesn't mean anything, as it has aforementioned IS, and with it it actually becomes more capable of taking handheld sharper pictures in low light than any other lens here. It is slower maybe 1-2 stops, but it is compensating this with 4 stops capable IS ! Today's DSLR mostly have excellent ISO performances, so that doesn't matter too. And is cheapest lens here..all in all great lens for money.
The aperture will matter for video though.
Yeah the high aperture is my fear for indoor video even with controlled lighting. I’m so used to 1.8 or 2.8 that 4.5 is scaring me off the 18-10
@@TheBrokenMeeple No need to be. I can handheld a 1 second photo with it! It's actually better in low light than the others due to stabilisation.
I have the Canon 10-18, and the Tokina 11-16. Tokina for low light stuff and in doors, as I don't find the Canon isn't much use after dark. Having said that, the Tokina flares terribly in night street photography, the Canon is better if the scene is a non moving one.
The Canon is brilliant in the daytime, and is ultra quiet and ultra light if you need to carry it around all day, like I do. However, the Tokina is also brilliant in the day, and produces lovely starpoints/starburst when you stop it down. The main drawback is the Tokina weighs a ton in comparison to the Canon, and doesn't focus nowhere as close to the subject if you need that.
For video, use the Canon; for photography use the Tokina. If you use the Canon for photography, make sure you have light or a flash.
jetblakink Agree. I am a vlogger. I use canon 10-18mm for daylight and the Tokina 11-16 for low light conditions.
Coach Bay How is the 11-16 for daily vlogging.
I've had the Tokina for several years and I don't go anywhere without it. Great lens and love the f2.8 feature of it.
@Lathrop Logistics not so much . It definitely makes some sound but not that terrible.
I love the 10-22mm look. I guess when it all comes down to it, it's what appeals to you and defines your own style.
I just bought a 10-18 Canon and a Canon 70D so Im very happy with this video :D
+Jakub Duroska Nice!
Jakub Duroska how is the combination?
Max Dostert Its great. Highly recommend
Thank you so much!:)
Most of what I shoot is video indoors in basement so I require the STM and larger aperture. I have video lighting but not sufficient for even my 18-55 at F3.5 without pushing the ISO. It's too bad Canon doesn't have an F2.8 at higher price point. It will cost me a couple hundred just to get sufficient lighting for F4.5. I'd rather that money go into a more robust lens.
I really appreciated your video. It's about one mounth i'm thinking to buy one of this three objectives, and today i've bought the canon 10 - 18. I'm waiting from Amazon. And than i saw your video. Happy to see i've done the right choise.
I love night time photography. The Tokina really is the only choice. Philip Bloom has recommend it at 16mm for a FF camera. Ive tried it on a 5DMII and found it to be crazy wide but usable (smidgen of vinette). However I bought the Canon 10-18mm for daytime shooting, and which now I will try for silky smooth water falls. I like to shoot inside Cathedrals when I travel and found the 10-18mm was very weak in these darker sanctuaries (ISO cranked adds grain, and the shadows were unacceptable). Thanx for your review.
It seems I always seek out these comparisons after the fact, but it's nice to see I chose the right lens! I had ordered the 10-18mm on a $299.00(Canadian) boxing day deal, but then was considering a used Tokina at the same price. The Tokina owner is out of town, so I couldn't pull the trigger; glad I didn't. Thanks for a great comparison review of exactly the three lenses I was considering, your effort and expertise are greatly appreciated. 🙏
I was torn between the Canon 10 - 18 and the Tokina 11 - 16 but this video helped me clear my ideas! I was really looking for a review like this with the photo and video comparison (with also the sound, as I was thinking about using the lens also for shooting some videos). Thank you much! You gained a subscriber! ☺️
@100adventurer - Which lens did you go with? How has it been?
I have a 7D with a couple of L lenses, 70-200f2.8L non is, 17-40 f4L,(my general walk around zoom lens), and was looking for a wide angle crop lens for my Canon. I found great information and specs with your video on these 3 lenses that I'm currently considering. I think I might have a winner with the 10-18 Canon. I definitely needed this range to be completely covered. Thanks for this great informative video.
As always, you're reviews are spot on and so helpful!
I came from the Tamron 10-24mm which always had distortion on the edges(old model not new), but i worked with what I had then. Just two months ago I got the 77D, what was my first choice for UWA lens? the Canon 10-18mm stm, trust me all the reviews are NOT wrong about this lens its painfully sharp right across the lens.
I would have got the Tokina for low light work, but I really don't need 2.8 in a bright sunny part of the World that I live in.
Toby is right, unless your doing star trails and night time landscape the Canon will trounce the Tokina every time.
Thanks for a great comparison Toby, love your reviews, always balance and sensible conclusions built on hard facts and your experience.
Tokina has a significant amount of ghosting and flarring when pointed yowards light sources, whereas the canon copes with those issues much more elegantly
Great video even after ten years. I love the 10 - 18. I bought a metal mount replacement part for the plastic mount. I got it on Amazon and the install was easy.
I'm looking for a wide angle to have a better reach at shooting fireworks shows. I'm not sure if I should pick the Tokina, on of the Canons or even the Sigma 10-20mm. What would you recommend ? I don't like the fact that the 10-18mm Canon is full plastic.
Thanks a lot for the detailed review. I was confused between 10-188mm and 10-22mm since the former has a plastic mount. This review helped me a lot. Going for the 10-18mm.
Thank you for making this review. I have been making tons of notes have had the hardest darn time figuring out which features are worth giving up on a wide angle lens and which I will be using more. Your straight to the point, non boasting personality also make you enjoyable to watch. So many people start off talking for so long that I have to fast forward to get to the actual info. Thanks again, I will check ya out on Facebook!
Good morning there, would like your honest opinion bro. sigma 10-20, tamron 10-24, tokina 11-16 and the tokina 12-24.. between the four 3rd party lenses.. which suits me most? i am doing weddings, outdoors/landscaping and a lil bit of video. am using a nikon d7100. thanks :)
I'm an absolute noob with these lenses and this video was great.
I would like to ask for your opinion. I'm going to buy canon 60D but I'm not sure about the lenses. I have a dilemma: canon 50mm 1.8 + 10-18mm 4.5-5.6 OR sigma 17-50 2.8?
In my view the 10-18 has too many issues with flaring and ghosting of light sources, be it windows or light bulbs. I have owned the 10-18 for 2 years and recently purchased the 10-22 and the ghosting has completely disappeared from my interior real estate photography meaning i spend much less time in post fixing the ghosting,, the extra $300 for the 10-22 over the 10-18 is worth it for the time savings in post production.
Interesting. I wonder if you had a bad copy.
If I do have a bad lens, I'm not the only one, the online research I have done seems to indicate that it is a fairly common issue, especially within the real estate photography sector.
ep I tested the 10-18 from canon and tested with sigma 10-20 and tokina 11-16... 10-18 has problems with light bulb flares sun and in some cases ghosting ... but I will buy it anyway is a cheep lens and very sharp, I like the macro shoots to:)) I shoot landscape so it will wor for me, but if anyone work with direct light I don't recommended
Agree. Unfortunately I haven't tried the other lenses and I'm itching to resolve this. The flare is in about 50% of my interior real estate shots. Outside it's not as much a problem with the lens hood, but I'm not as happy with my 10-18mm as all these reviewers seem to be but it's when comparing to the other limited choices for a crop.
I just purchased the Tokina 11 - 20mm from Amazon. The Focus Mechanism is not working. I am about to return it... I really NEED the f/2.8 because most of my photos and video work is in dark night clubs. I will go purchase the Canon 10 - 18mm instead. I seem to have problems with NON CANON lenses. I also have the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. It focuses too slow for what I do. I rented the Tokina 11 - 16 from Adorama to test to see if I would like it before I purchased the Tokina and I loved it. Now my lens arrives in the mail and it's not working.... UGGGGGG!!!! So I will STICK TO CANON LENSES!!!!
Thank you for your ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL AND HELPFUL REVIEWS. They are much needed and appreciated.
Excellent review that helped me so much with making up my mind about which wide angle lens to buy. Every second of the video really well used. And you did it with no cuts :) Thank you.
Hi Toby, I have 70d + 18-135mm lens. I like to shoot landscape a lot and start consider to buy a wide angle lens. Do you still recommend I buy 10-18mm? What's pros that 10-18mm over 18-135mm besides the wider angle? Is image quality better? sharper? Appreciate you thoughts in advance
Sir can we use canon apsc lenses with fujifilm cameras ?
thank for the review. I've bought the 10-18mm because of all the glowing reviews everywhere. I have a 17-40mm but I wanted an even wider lens and this seems to be the best one (for cropped sensors)
Thanks for this informative comparison. Quick question, would you still recommend the Canon 10-18mm over the new Tokina 11-20 Atx-i?
Nice breakdown on the lenses, so excited I just bought my 10-18mm lens online about to get it this week. Thank you man. I ant wait to do my vlogs with it.
hey Toby,.. i have a question, i need a wide angle lens,.. which of these two you recommend for me???
Canon 10-18 stm. or Sigma 10-18 3.5 ???
Canon!
Hi Toby,I looked at your review on the Sigma 17-70. Thank you for that. I'm now thinking of buying one. Here where i live i can buy a refurbished one for 400 US or the older version for around 300 US. Is the newer version much better than the last should i save myself a hundred US and go with the older model? What would you do?
I have used the Canon 10-22 for a few years now and it is great! However, I suffer from G.A.S. (gear acquisition syndrome) and may just have to pick up that 10-18 for video with that STM quietness! Thanks for your reviews with video AND pics.
What camera and lens did you use to shoot yourself on this vid? It looks excellent!
Hi! I’ve been thinking about buying the 10-18mm but I just wanted to know first if it’s any good for portraits??
Hi, for a real estate video, wich one is better brother? thanks for the answer, i think tokina is the best option because the interior of the houses.. isnt it?
Honestly all three would do well. Inside a house where it is dark the faster aperture could help but really you want good depth of field inside always so you should be on a tripod.
PhotoRec TV I’ve a ronin s and canon 10-18 but I’m unsatisfied with it and I’m looking to buy the Tokina 11-16 :/
can you help on a huge doubt ?
wich one to buy, canon 10/22mm - canon 10/18mm or sigma 8/16mm
i saw some sample videos of sigma and shes really sharp and rectilinea...do you think is worth to paying for the almost 800 dollares on sigma ?!
thanks...
Great video. Would you recommend 10-18 for landscape?
Yes, it is perfect for that. Ususally you have plenty of light for these shots for at f4.5 and you would use f5.6 or f8 for the best sharpness and DOF anyways. The focus is fast and silent, the angle of view is perfect.
Greatly appreciate this video. I will be purchasing the Canon 10-18mm after much debate and watching this video. Definitely cleared it up for me, and allowed me the ability to make a sound choice. Great work, you have a new subscriber from here on out! - James, DJMP
I have a Canon EOS 5D Mark111 with EF 24-105 mm lens. I have recently taken up photography as a hobby and am looking for a good Wide-Angle lens for my camera. I would like to know which one to buy as I know nothing about lenses.
trying to decide between the 10-18, roki 14mm and roki 8mm for filming skateboarding and just general use. any thoughts?
For the money the 10-18 gives you great versatility. For the quality and low light performance the 14mm would be my second choice. Manual focus only though.
Thank you! this is the best video on youtube displaying the auto focus noise! a lot of other reviewers either skip this issue or don't compare the sounds! I'll be getting the 10-18 for the silence :)
You bet!
I have a question. I have a sony A3000 mirrorless and a adaptor for canon efs. Will this work manually well on my camera ?? I don't really care about the auto focus
Thank you for the good review. I just bought USED Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX lens for my Canon 70D and found that auto focus does not focusing correct especially at the short distance and need to be corrected with manual focus but my other lenses are fine. Would like to have your opinion, please, do you think is something wrong with the lens or ...? Thank you.
Hi i have canon 650d and im looking for a wide angle lens for landscapes shooting, im not gonna shoot any stars.
i saw there is a Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM lens but im not sure which lend is better for me - the one above or the tokina 11-16
thanx for ur help.
Shay.
I am planning to buy a wide angle lens ,but I don't know which one of these I should go with. Canon 10-18mm or the Tokina 11-16mm or the sigma 10-20mm
I also want a lens between this range 10 to this range 50 which is not possible in one lens.
I have the canon 28-135 and I am thinking of selling it and buying the tamron 16-300
what do you recommend me?
I am using a canon 18-135 IS STM ...and i can it's a very silent a razor sharp new technology lens ..the 10-18 will surely do good job ..thanks for the video
Great review you are a pro! Question:
What set up did you use to film this review?
The 10-22 f3.5-4.5 USM is the classic alrounder; good range, and good aperture.
The 10-18 f4.5-5.6 IS STM is a good entry level UWA that is small, lightweight, cheap and the STM is great for videos, but limited zoom range and limited low light.
The Tokina 11-16 f2.8 is great for wide aperture, but very limited range.
Thank you for this review! I've been trying to figure what wide lens to get :)
Great, very illustrative content, thanks!
Two years after this video, would you still recommend the 10-18mm as an add on to an APS-C setup or as a travel lens?
+César Martínez it's still an excellent lens yes
Thank you so much for your answer, after watching this video and the full review I am convinced and I'm heading to the photo store to purchase one. Thanks again an keep doing videos!
Here in the UK, the Sigma/C 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 DG HSM II is cheaper to rent than the Tokina 11-16. Have you come across the Sigma ? Your opinion please.
Nice review!! I'm trying to find a f/1.4 or f/1.8 wide angle lense for my canon 760D, which one would you recommend me?? Thanks :)
Very nice video Toby.
I'm deciding if i should get the Tokina or the canon 10-18 though i like the tokina more than the canon. I have the 18-135mm stm so i dont really need another stm. I love the f2.8 good for shooting night sky/scene and the only thing the downside it doesn't have IS.. but does it matter if i shoot for landscape outdoors aswell?
Help would be appreciate.
I don't really take many indoor photos. Looking for more of a Landscape lens and trying to get into night/star photography. I already have a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8. Which of the 10-18 or the 11-16 would you recommend? Or would you maybe recommend a prime lens (ie 20mmf2.8)?
I'll be getting the Tokina... way better low light performance which has me sold.
Good info, Thanks! Which would you recommend for a Canon 7D user like me...
Terrific review,Toby. You answered exactly what I was wondering and wanted to know...
Hello , wich one i should use for landscape photography ? ( best photo quality ) ?
I have a canon 600D ( APS-C )
Attallah Hichem Did you watch the review? I found the Canon 10-18 to be sharpest.
thank you :)
CameraRec Toby
incredible¡¡ i thought the tokina were sharpest than the canon.
Thank you for your review. You helped me make a definitive decision on purchasing the 10-18
thanks for this demo comparison
the 10-18 is still an impressive little gem of a lens
Came across your video today. Love the comparisons. U explained all very well and at an understandable pace. I will buy that 10-18mm lens for my Canon EOS 800D. It will suit my Real Estate well.
if I already have 10-18mm, would the 11-16mm F/2.8 Tokina be worth the upgrade cost?
Sometimes I can't setup a light and vlog in lower light conditions. Since I record at 24fps, I run 1/50, but with the 10-18mm, that means the widest aperture I can run is F/4.5 which makes me have to use 400ISO or 800ISO. I'd like to be able to use 200ISO at least.
Yes - the 11-16 would be really helpful in those situations.
Hi Toby, I hadn't heard of your channel before today. Whilst looking at sample images from members of a forum, I came across a link to this comparison. Was very useful, thank you. I shall be subscribing!
Gareth Fallon Wonderful. Where did you hear about me? Thanks!
What about the Sigma 10-20? I want an ultra wide to start with landscapes and I've seen the Sigma 10-20, Canon 10-18 and the Tokina you mentioned.
The fact is: I red a lot of nice reviews about the Canon 10-18(as you said no reasons to consider the 10-22) but it's way cheaper and "plasticky" so I wonder: if I have the budget would the Sigma/Tokina be better or the Canon price is just fooling me for no reason? What do you think of the Sigma?
If I want to try some nature wide angle photography and have a small budget would it be better to start with the canon 10-18 or the 24 prime in your opinion?
Jeanette Kalchik You have the 18-55 or 18-135 now? how often do you wish you could go wider than 18? If often get the 10-18 otherwise get the 24mm prime. (which prime are we talking about? ua-cam.com/video/nzUujWJmz_Y/v-deo.html)
I thought the Canon 10-18 was optimized for crop sensor cameras? Do you still have to multiply?
yes you still have to multiply .... 10-18 stands for 16-29 in FF terms
Hello there, will my EOS 70D can use this???
And how can I determine a lenses that compatible with my EOS 70D
Another question, Does other brand of lenses is compatible with my CANON EOS 70D in a random way?:)
I am really having a hard time to chose a lenses.
But one thing I need is a wide angle lenses for landscape :)
Randall. There are two things you need to know. You have a canon crop sensor camera. 1.6 crop factor. So: canon camera=Ef Mount. Canon crop sensor camera=Ef-S Mount. A Ef lens is compatible with a crop sensor camera. But a Ef-s lens is NOT compatible with a full frame camera.
Much help, Thank you man Francisco Hestnes
Then according to you the best lens is the canon 10-18?
I have that lens and I wanted to buy new tokina 11 20 mm 2.8
Now I changed idea. I remain with my old cheap 10-18.
Thanks
Are they good for real estate
Hello, after watching your video, I'm still hesitating between the Canon 10-18 VS the Sigma 10-20 F/3.5. Did you try the second one?
Between the canon 10-22 and the 10-80 which one would you recommend? I'm not a professional photographer but I'm a big fan of the super wide angle lens.
10-18 for general photography
Thanks for your really useful video, of all the reviews on the 10-18mm lens, I found this to be the most informative. A wide angle lens is something I have been sitting on the fence on for a while, mainly justifying the cost. Helps that the 10-18mm is the same filter size (67mm) as 18-135mm, saving lots on extra filters! Could I just ask, how does the 10-18mm perform on long exposures, I know you said no starry skies, but what about dawn and dusk shots?
PS. Sorry but I don't shop from B&H, mostly due to the customs charges that I'd be dealing with. Believe Amazon UK also give commissions? Not sure about DigitalRev or Onestopdigital?
Excellent lens especially given the low price point. I have used it for video and photography and never noticed the noise of it's focusing system.
I just bought the Tokina 11-16 for my 7D I saw it was for Sony is there a mount I can get to fit the 7D? Thank you for your response.
i want an affordable wide angle lens, I own a Canon apsc sensor dslr, please suggest me - should I go for Canon 10-18mm or Samyang 14mm ???
I assumed that the new Canon would be a "cheaper" lens than the Tokina because of the brand premium bit. But looking at that chormatic aberration from the Tokina... it just put off buying it!
I fount it second hand for 165 euros, vs 225 for the Canon brand new.
I think I'll save up for the Canon.
Very good review. Had to hit the subscribe. I just got the Sigma 17-50mm but I am missing that wide angle so this review was very helpful. Keep 'em coming.
What would be a better choice for the BMPC 4K for real estate videos. The Tokina or the Canon 10-18?
which one is the best to get
Hi, I am a nikon user so do not have the option to go with canon 10-18mm (i wish i could have a canon camera especially for wide angle lens), anyways...please could you advise whether i can go ahead with the (Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX II AF 11 - 16 mm f/2.8). I want a wide angle lens which will last for atleast a decade with me and i can use it for any landscape shoot. Please comment, thanks :)
Hi, thanks for great review! I am looking for wide angle lens to shoot for mainly night photography. I currently have 30mm f/1.4 sigma. which does great photos in the dark but obviously it doesnt zoom and many times its frustrating because things like buildings and night sky don't fit. so I am leaning toward tokina 11-16. it seems to me for the price it is the best choice. what do you think?
So this review was very helpful. I am starting out in real estate photography and I am still divided between the Canon 10-18 and the Tokina 11-16 because of the aperture. Shouldn't I opt for the Tokina to let in the maximum light for shooting indoors? What would be the best purchase for me? Thanks!
Hi Marisa, The Tokina is a safer choice here because of that larger maximum aperture but for many of your indoor shots you will likely be on a tripod and can do longer exposures AND you don't always want to shoot at just f/2.8 with the Tokina, the wider aperture makes your depth of field a little shallower and images not as sharp. Happy to chat more, follow me on facebook.com/Digital.Photo.Recommendations
Hi, I have a question. I know that Rokinon FE14M-C 14mm F2.8 wasn't mentioned in this video, but I just couldn't find any comparisons between it and Canon 10-18mm. In case you tested both, can I ask, which one of them would you recommend for video recording more? They are both at pretty similar price point right now and I am not sure which one to choose. Thank you very much for your time. :)
hi there, many thanks for the video, its very helpfull for many questions about this class lensess. i want to ask you about tokina 11-16 f:2.8 because i have the canon 10-18 mm lens for my apsc camera and i really didnt like its video sharpness. i am using tamron24-70 mm on my full frame dslr camera, tamron's wide angle sharpness and contrass is very well for for my video works. but on my second camera -7dmark ii apsc- the 10-18 is a disapointment for me. Maybe i am talking between very different lens classes but i want to ask you is tokina can solve my problem? or what do you suggest for me?
Toby, I would like to know, if you already have the sigma 18-35 is it worth getting the 10-18? Thanks
How often do you wish you could go wider?
I have had my 70D since they first came out last year, ...also had my 10-22mm since before that. Got my Sigma 18-35mm 6mos ago and since then, I really haven't used my 10-22mm anymore. Hard to go back after having f1.8 and haven't found any real reason for the extra 8mm of width. The one time I did use it though, it was for a wedding reception indoors, but was going back and forth needing that f1.8 over the 10mm. Had I had the 10-18 STM IS, it still wouldn't have been useful since everyone was moving around. So really, it's up to what you're using it for if you need that 10mm.
I have been looking for a wide angel lens for more than a year. I have a Canon 7D camera and still only have the 18-55mm kit lens. I would like to buy an EF lens due to eventual camera upgrade. What lens would you recommend in the EF wide angel range?
16-35 F/4 Much more expensive but excellent quality and full frame compatible.
Thank you very much :)
10:06 hand held - WOW!
I would like your view on the Sigma 8-16mm lens plus the 10-18mm in comparison. What would you recommend?
I will have some thoughts to share about this in my write up coming later this week but I still go Canon 10-18 unless you REALLY want 8mm. Downsides of sigma - no filters and it is pricey.
Those first two photos you showed (the mountain range/fence and the flowers) were those images straight from the camera or was there touching up in lightroom?
Great video! What would you recommend as being the most cost effective Camera and Lens for a vlogger, a lot of moving objects at times, and still videos too? Ideally, I want a Canon 70D with the 10-18 lens but is there a cheaper one that can get the job done?
JB talks don’t get the 70d imo because it doesn’t do 60fps
The sl2 is great
Which one of these lenses is better in terms of image quality like chromatic aberration , distortion and so on ..
john al-otaibi They all suffer from distortion but I found the Canon 10-18 to be the best overall quality.
Would you recommend the 10-18 for landscapes as well?
Jose Gutierrez Yes. . . but hang on a few days I have a new video coming out that talks about wide angle lenses and landscapes.
PhotoRec Toby Subscribed! Can't wait.
Thank you for this. I do have a question. If I wanna shoot landscape and do a bit of lowlight video would you recommend I just get the tokina?
low light - get the Tokina
PhotoRec TV can I get a Tokina for landscape (day and night) and videos?
Just got a used 10-22mm at KEH excellent rate at $117.00 for my R7. it is a bargain lens. It is super fast and images are clear. I did look at those kit lens RF for the R7 but build quality is not compared to the old EF-S lens.
Hey Toby,
I have question.
Does your 70D body make light rattling sound if you shake it ? it sound like there is something loose inside.
I also noticed some rattling sound coming from inside the lens (canon EFS 10-22) and that zoom and focus rings have slight back and forth wiggle to it along with front of the lens hood( where it says "canon zoom lens...") very lightly wiggle side to side. I just bought this kit and not sure if I should be concern?