No, Pat didn't play in the original Fripp/Sylvian lineup and if I recall right he just happened to pass the audition for the double trio audition when they were looking for a second drummer. When Pat played his audition he thought Fripp wasn't interested when he walked away, but in reality Fripp wanted to get a closer look of how Pat played and watched him from the behind. It was a real surprise for Pat to be a member, and he really is a fitting one!
Someone post lyrics in comments please although i love that its just loaded with people talking about how amazing king crimson is and what they like and why they like it and if you just stay ambivalent and scroll eventually you notice almost the whole timeline of the band being discussed over one song with david sylvian.
Of all Fripp did after 1974, I still think this collaboration is the most successful. Pity Sylvian didn't join Crimson instead of Belew, rock groups seem to disperse on talent nowadays. Not that Belew is untalented, but not quite in the league of Sylvian when it comes to melody, songwriting, lyrics and vocals. A good guitarist is already in Crimson.
thanks, i saw Robert and David 14 years ago here in italy, Teatro Romolo Valli Reggio Emilia, but i don't remember if the drummer was Pat in that stuff. i think it was the same period of this concert
Sylvian/ Fripp The First Day . Damage These two great Artist just Fit. Like Fripp/ Eno The First Day is a Masterpiece. Gone to Earth as well. This Tour was one of Sylvian Best. David Sylvian guitar Keyboards Voice Robert Fripp guitar Soundscapes Micheal Brook infinite guitar Trey Gunn Stick Pat Mastlotto Drums
Why would Bruford be there? This wasn't King Crimson. Pat was recruited for the Sylvian/Fripp tour, then was asked to stay on for the King Crimson "Double Trio", and was still there after Bruford left again.
In those days there was no King Crimson, so this band was truly welcomed, I was hoping Sylvian would accept a place in the new Crimson, but I don't think he really liked working with Fripp.,on an interview I read on Future Music, he said that the works with Fripp where not among his favorite records.
Hah, this is practically King Crimson' s lineup with a different frontman. But Sylvian was asked to be in KC and declinded, wasn' t that so? Would be interesting to hear how much different the band would probably have sounded if they were at it under the KC name and aesthetic.
pat and Trey were working with fripp- sylvian project and thats why they ended up playing in King crimson Right?, because Robert like the way they work.
@kc01002 I think it's a Stick, the Warr Guitar has a body and if I'm not wrong, Trey Gunn usually plays it horizontally... besides the lowest pitched strings are in the center of the fingerboard, which is characteristical of the Cahpman Stick... anyway, the video doesn't really help to distinguish which instrument is =P
damn fuckin Fripp can play anything. He can shredd, rock ,blues, reggae,etc., etc, The guy's a fuckin'genius. Has anybody seen his interviews from 1980. The B&W one where he looks like Clark kent w/out the glasses. He's too smart to be in rock bands i luv him for that. I like how he plays guitar he never stands. He sits he looks pensive like he's calculating math problems.Does he know howto party or what? He never loses count/beat. i could learn alot from him.
I agree with your disagreement, Crimson in the 70's were untouchable, and I don't think anyone would be directing Fripp, I think it's pretty safe to say if anything Fripp had control over his own parts to a large extent.
Beautiful song. Love the rythm, but at 4:27 he goes off a bit... my mechanical ear doesn't miss a beat. eheh Some music back then. Anything like this now?
Seriously, you got to wonder what these two flame-grilled cerebro-groovers are on about - madder than a pair of boxes full of frogs, the both of them...
Fripp/KC videos often used this dated visual style back in the 80s/90s; I remember one of the concert videos of KC circa TOAPP had the similar shaky camera
a Chapman stick...eh? I've never heard of one before much less seen one. So what is it a bass or rhythm instrument? It kind of reminds me of the Japanese instrument called "Koto"...but the Koto is played in a horizontal position. Great video...btw
its both,you fret with both hands to create the note no strumming needed,so you can get wacky highs and rumbling bottom...few guys on here doing demo type stuff...
Kindof reminds of Bowie in a way...not bad. I much prefer that really progressive playing outside the box Robert Fripp personally speaking. Thanks for posting.
That's not strange at all ...it's got the same staccato way of singing that David Byrne allways uses. And allmost the same guitar riffs, though Robert Fripp really is the master!
Sylvian would of made perfect sense as KC front guy. He can sing and play as needed. He is heir to the throne because of his UK backround. Adran B's seemed to be an americanized version of KC. I believe it was to be called discipline .couldn' t resist the product label ole frippy. Dave S would have interpreted In TCOTCK very well.
in reality king crimson mk 6? sylvian shoulda let the label be put on and kept this going. it certaintly raised eyebrows. funny how the kc got back right afta this deal.who knows why davy didn't bite on the line. hubris, ego, boredom, will never know.
This could have been King Crimson in an alternate reality... Only reason it didn't happen, was because Adrian Belew got re-elected as guitarist/singer of KC.
The 252nd rating was the five stars I had given here. comment on song: "we us the steps to climb to God," ., typos work well here also. comment on production=> too much separation in final product ., final commen: OMG the monkey made it to the back of my shoulder ., again LOL overall great stuff with blissified textures of Fripp
I saw this concert in Italy in 1993.
Stunning experience.
the best live concert i have ever seen in my life and i even did the catering for it.. :-)
I remember that, the canapés were killer! 🐸
@@lex3729 climb the table, climb the table, gods canapes
I wish they had done more together. Fripp gives Sylvian's songs a real darkness.
They "Gone to Earth" together.. Great album
i'd say it's the other way around. fripp has menacing tone choices but sylvian is the really dark one.
Sylvian is a really underrated instrumentalist. He knows what he wants out of his instruments.
I went to this concert. With very loud drum sounds and vibrations
My heart was on the verge of stopping
This is amazing, and a likely combination too! I love Japan, and Sylvian's voice, goes well with Fripp's style.
"the first day" is a MASTERPIECE !
sylvian with king crimson is like heaven, fripp and sylvian, both gods
I remember this fabulous cocert in Paris !
They stand in front of me ,like Gods
It's still the best from two people
No, Pat didn't play in the original Fripp/Sylvian lineup and if I recall right he just happened to pass the audition for the double trio audition when they were looking for a second drummer. When Pat played his audition he thought Fripp wasn't interested when he walked away, but in reality Fripp wanted to get a closer look of how Pat played and watched him from the behind. It was a real surprise for Pat to be a member, and he really is a fitting one!
Someone post lyrics in comments please although i love that its just loaded with people talking about how amazing king crimson is and what they like and why they like it and if you just stay ambivalent and scroll eventually you notice almost the whole timeline of the band being discussed over one song with david sylvian.
Brilliant song...love it...album is great too!
What could be better than this?
Everything else we prefer ;)
One,or maybe two words: Superb! Love the guitar, here...and David is cool as ever! :-)
What a drummer.
Of all Fripp did after 1974, I still think this collaboration is the most successful. Pity Sylvian didn't join Crimson instead of Belew, rock groups seem to disperse on talent nowadays. Not that Belew is untalented, but not quite in the league of Sylvian when it comes to melody, songwriting, lyrics and vocals. A good guitarist is already in Crimson.
Yes, if King Crimson was a video game, Sylvian would be like the secret character you can unlock with a cheat code
My current ear worm. Beware. I never took drugs, this goes instantly into my veins. Head to Toe.
wicked tune..wicked voice...love it!
I saw this tour, it was brilliant. I think Michael Brook was also in the band, although I didn't know it at the time.
trly fantastic performance, thank you for posting
thanks, i saw Robert and David 14 years ago here in italy, Teatro Romolo Valli Reggio Emilia, but i don't remember if the drummer was Pat in that stuff. i think it was the same period of this concert
Sylvian/ Fripp
The First Day .
Damage
These two great Artist just Fit.
Like Fripp/ Eno
The First Day is a Masterpiece.
Gone to Earth as well.
This Tour was one of Sylvian Best.
David Sylvian guitar Keyboards Voice
Robert Fripp guitar Soundscapes
Micheal Brook infinite guitar
Trey Gunn Stick
Pat Mastlotto Drums
damn, I am digging David's guitar stylings in this.
Kapitalna piosenka...:) Stonowany David...dynamiczny (choć siedzący) Robert..:)
Kind thanks
the best I ever heard befour
~ YEAH ~
Wow what an amazing performance! Is there a dvd available of the whole concert? Greetz from Holland
Why would Bruford be there? This wasn't King Crimson. Pat was recruited for the Sylvian/Fripp tour, then was asked to stay on for the King Crimson "Double Trio", and was still there after Bruford left again.
1st day - great one
GREAT SONG
why can't you buy commercial DVDs of these concerts? Why does it have to be so friggin' difficult?
David's voice sounds like some instrument...i dont know the name , but it is my fav instrument!!
Wow !
For some reason I put this album together with The Stranglers Feline album for the ultimate European experience.
great!!...
this is the beyond...
nice little gem
In those days there was no King Crimson, so this band was truly welcomed,
I was hoping Sylvian would accept a place in the new Crimson, but I don't think he really liked working with Fripp.,on an interview I read on Future Music, he said that the works with Fripp where not among his favorite records.
Lovely where free-associating at the keyboard can land you. Thanks!
Yes this is THE GOOD STUFF -ain't no doubt....no fake UKZ shit here! Vocals are so important along with brilliant musicianship....FRIPP IS MY HERO!
Hah, this is practically King Crimson' s lineup with a different frontman. But Sylvian was asked to be in KC and declinded, wasn' t that so?
Would be interesting to hear how much different the band would probably have sounded if they were at it under the KC name and aesthetic.
pat and Trey were working with fripp- sylvian project and thats why they ended up playing in King crimson Right?, because Robert like the way they work.
хорошо, молодцы! :)
uwielbiam...;-}
leuke verrassende combinatie artiesten
@kc01002 I think it's a Stick, the Warr Guitar has a body and if I'm not wrong, Trey Gunn usually plays it horizontally... besides the lowest pitched strings are in the center of the fingerboard, which is characteristical of the Cahpman Stick... anyway, the video doesn't really help to distinguish which instrument is =P
damn fuckin Fripp can play anything. He can shredd, rock ,blues, reggae,etc., etc, The guy's a fuckin'genius. Has anybody seen his interviews from 1980. The B&W one where he looks like Clark kent w/out the glasses. He's too smart to be in rock bands i luv him for that. I like how he plays guitar he never stands. He sits he looks pensive like he's calculating math problems.Does he know howto party or what? He never loses count/beat. i could learn alot from him.
Is that Pat playing drums? Where's Bruford?
is that pat mastellotto on drums?
Yes!
Trey Gunn on Chapman Stick!!
I agree with your disagreement, Crimson in the 70's were untouchable, and I don't think anyone would be directing Fripp, I think it's pretty safe to say if anything Fripp had control over his own parts to a large extent.
Beautiful song.
Love the rythm, but at 4:27 he goes off a bit... my mechanical ear doesn't miss a beat.
eheh
Some music back then. Anything like this now?
You missed a bit @ 3:39.... ;)
Seriously, you got to wonder what these two flame-grilled cerebro-groovers are on about - madder than a pair of boxes full of frogs, the both of them...
speak English
OMG...
What is Sylvian playing - I can not see (thank the camera man)!?!
Fripp/KC videos often used this dated visual style back in the 80s/90s; I remember one of the concert videos of KC circa TOAPP had the similar shaky camera
Interesting music. Used to love Japan which led me here. Hate the jumping around video though brings in a headache!
a Chapman stick...eh? I've never heard of one before much less seen one. So what is it a bass or rhythm instrument?
It kind of reminds me of the Japanese instrument called "Koto"...but the Koto is played in a horizontal position.
Great video...btw
that the pointer sisters drum beat, by the way
Cool
Trey Gunn on the stick, Pat Mastelotto on drums. That's half the contemporary iteration of KC.
Climb the ladder.
SHITTING CRICKEY this is the GOOOOD SHIT!!
What on heart is that instrument? The one that your man play? looks like a sitar... Could it be an electric sitar? am i gone too far?
its both,you fret with both hands to create the note no strumming needed,so you can get wacky highs and rumbling bottom...few guys on here doing demo type stuff...
@kc01002 Its a chapman stick. He also plays warr though.
@tomk773 well i think you you will find Sylvian is as well my friend ,,,
Man, how does one go about getting King Crimson to join one's band?
Sorry i didn't specify.
The drummer does.
Kindof reminds of Bowie in a way...not bad. I much prefer that really progressive playing outside the box Robert Fripp personally speaking. Thanks for posting.
Chingón
Sylvian's playing a Steinberger.
Strangely enough, this song actually kind of reminds me of the Talking Heads.
That's not strange at all ...it's got the same staccato way of singing that David Byrne allways uses. And allmost the same guitar riffs, though Robert Fripp really is the master!
Well, Robert Fripp actually played on some Talking Heads recordings.
@@belin-teamdjokovic1628 as did Belew.
Can any1 tell me what song by fripp/sylvian
has the Hendrix "foxy lady" fiff in it.
Brightness Falls.
Who chose to they cameraman with badly of Parkinson?
What's the SF at the back for? i think it's for science-fiction :)
SylvianFripp!
Jan garbarek
@Bass5el absolutly
I disagree. Tony is a fine songwriter as well. It's nice to see a bass player who is just more than a sideman.
@donaldnewmanmedone
You can actually see Michale there at 0:37, far right.
First you'll have to track them down, there are dozens of 'em.
@sitwosaints no doubt
I think that was intended
Sylvian would of made perfect sense as KC front guy. He can sing and play as needed. He is heir to the throne because of his UK backround. Adran B's seemed to be an americanized version of KC. I believe it was to be called discipline .couldn' t resist the product label ole frippy. Dave S would have interpreted In TCOTCK very well.
in reality king crimson mk 6? sylvian shoulda let the label be put on and kept this going. it certaintly raised eyebrows. funny how the kc got back right afta this deal.who knows why davy didn't bite on the line. hubris, ego, boredom, will never know.
very 90s
Alternative King Crimson
This could have been King Crimson in an alternate reality... Only reason it didn't happen, was because Adrian Belew got re-elected as guitarist/singer of KC.
Yes, you could, couldn't you?
I think Trey Gunn prefers a 10-string Warr Guitar. Sticks are held a bit more upright, I think.
Shoot the camera man, can't we?
I double the curse on the film maker for shaky bullsh
You're so cute.
lol some of the s/f stuff is faintly menacing
Not sure though...
The 252nd rating was the five stars I had given here.
comment on song: "we us the steps to climb to God," ., typos work well here also.
comment on production=> too much separation in final product .,
final commen: OMG the monkey made it to the back of my shoulder ., again LOL
overall great stuff with blissified textures of Fripp
chapman stick