For those who are asking questions, the story goes as follows (as far as I know): early/mid 90's, Fripp wanted to put together a new line-up for KC, consisting of himself of course, Jerry Marotta on drums, Nick Beggs on bass/stick and Sylvian on vocals/guitar. They all did decline for different reasons (for instance, Beggs was in the middle of a divorce). That's when Fripp called a student of his, Trey Gunn, to be part of the double trio, and then recruited Pat Mastelotto too. About this Sylvian & Fripp project, Marotta was the drummer in studio, but Sylvian wasn't a big fan of his, so they hired Mastelotto for the tour, which led him to KC. Prior to this they toured as a trio with no drummer, just Sylvian, Fripp and Gunn. I think the KC 4tet with Marotta and Beggs would have been stellar, had it happened. Just my opinion.
I've heard different things about Marotta. That he and Sylvian didn't get along in the studio, and that he would have done the tour but had a prior commitment. Who knows what is true. I know Marotta was a huge Sylvian fan at one time, and said in an interview that Brilliant Trees was one of his favorite albums. Working with an inflexible control freak in the studio may have soured him on Sylvian though.
WOW! Never has Sylvian impressed me more than here! What a presence in music! What a discrete and still immense passion! What a combination to go with Fripp! Freakin' awesome!
I love how Fripp has his own sense of time. Its like it floats and ebbs behind and forwards at its own pace. Its it's own kind of animal that just "does."
Notice Pat Mastelotto on drums, and Trey Gunn on touch bass- little wonder they joined Fripp in the reincarnation of King Crimson in 1994. In fact, he wanted Sylvian to front them!
@@Bricameron - sorry - I think Belew was the wise choice at the time and looking back as well. Still, would have been interesting to say the least if Silvian took up the role.
@@TJ-be4ju I expect that much ego in one room would have exploded but I agree, it would have been really cool to hear. We got this, though, which was really fun and fresh at the time.
Who is the second guitarist? Here in Nashville, I got to see a lot of Crimson and various projeKcts when Adrian Belew was in the band. They rehearsed at Adrian's studio, and often played around town.
If you have not heard it, "Damage" (the album of the tour shown in this footage) is really, really great. It makes the studio cuts from "The First Day" sound almost like rehearsals. And the sound quality is amazingly punchy and vibrant, too.
The whole album was pretty much improvised on tour if i remember correctly. Before releasing The First Day Fripp, Sylvian and Gunn toured around and wrote the pieces while touring i think.
@@DonHaka I was under the impression that The First Day album (with Jerry Marotta on drums instead of Pat) was written and recorded before the touring but my memory is hazy.
@@DarkeningSkies1 it was, DS and Fripp toured in 1991 as a three piece with the Chapman player, during that tour they improvosed a lot of the instrumentals during rehearsals and such. Im pretty sure that this is true but i might be wrong.
I was also at the Nottingham gig, I think it was on a Saturday night. We drove up from London and also had second row seats at the Albert Hall. Fantastic album
This is like a Crim ProjecKt fronted by Sylvian. Love the album from back in the day. Great that it's here to see again and again I wonder wonder wonder wonder what it would sound like if they added Belew ☺
saw this tour in nottingham and it was an awesome show..the way these two artists blended on this material is quite surreal...think the live recordings edge the studio album for "feel"...also some sylvain stuff reworked on this tour
i really enjoy the comments for this type of music, very knowledgable and friendly, i guess its the art-house brotherhood mindset ;-). Somehow, after being into Japan, guitar music etc etc, i had never listened to Fripp before today! wow...
Now i see why king crimson sounds the way it sounds now. There is a lot of crimson kinda patterns going on here, thats the sound fripp got from working with Pat and Trey on this band. I was thinking that Robert didnt do stuff like this before with Adrian, back on the 80s, so this is the answer to my question about the 90`s and 2000`s king Crimson`s Sound. Thank you for posting this!.
This is incredible! I have enjoyed the Sylvian & Fripp album for years but never realized that video footage was available. I am a great King Crimson fan. However, I think I enjoy the Sylvian/Fripp grouping better than the Adrian Belew version of King Crimson. Is this footage available on DVD? Thanks for posting this!
This is infakt King Crimson together with David Sylvian, or the other way round! It deserves a houndred billion clics! Hey world, can't you feel it? I can!
FYI this is Pat Mastelotto on drums. I know that Fripp was going to have Marotta and Sylvian in his new King Crimson in the early nineties, but then they did this, and KC happened a little later.
Take the 2000-2004 King Crimson line-up, replace Adrian Belew by David Sylvian and there it is! So Pat Mastoletto on drums, Robert Fripp on guitar, Trey Gunn on stick, David Sylvian on vox and synths. And they added Michael Brook on «infinite guitar»...
@@rickhindman5334 Your correct, Trey does play a Warr guitar, but in this video he's playing a 12 string Chapman Stick. There's very clear shots of it at 6.10 and 6.46.
Is the bass coming from the stick in this video? If so it seemed out of sync in some places. Be interested to know bout that. Great track. Big admirer of d Sylvian's album Brilliant Trees too.
@boibad12 the double trio was very demanding to listen to-although i loved thrak and vroom at the time, id say it was ultimately a doomed experiment, but kudos to them for trying
Fripp can sweep, he sweeps in Fracture for example, he doesn't do this eny more just because there is no need for sweeping if you play in NST (it's much easier to get tak wide intervalic sound and play arpeggios).
haha! nonplussed, i like it! yeah its weird, me being a guitarist, he kinda......slippied through the net..... He is a funny character, i find myself nonplussed ;-)
So, you mean to say that the vocals that were recorded on the Rain Tree Crow recording... the scratch vocals.... that they were recorded over? It'd be interesting to actually hear those scratch vocals so as to hear what Karn means.
@boibad12 i don't know much about the rhythm/drumming stuff - i know mastelotto is more of a rock drummer...all these progressive guys, like bruford etc, seem to either go back to rock or move to jazz exclusively...
11 years later... ^^' David Sylvian - voice, keyboards, rhythm guitar Robert Fripp - lead guitar Michael Brook - Infinite Guitar (which he invented) Trey Gunn - stick bass Pat Mastelotto - drums
For those who are asking questions, the story goes as follows (as far as I know): early/mid 90's, Fripp wanted to put together a new line-up for KC, consisting of himself of course, Jerry Marotta on drums, Nick Beggs on bass/stick and Sylvian on vocals/guitar. They all did decline for different reasons (for instance, Beggs was in the middle of a divorce). That's when Fripp called a student of his, Trey Gunn, to be part of the double trio, and then recruited Pat Mastelotto too. About this Sylvian & Fripp project, Marotta was the drummer in studio, but Sylvian wasn't a big fan of his, so they hired Mastelotto for the tour, which led him to KC. Prior to this they toured as a trio with no drummer, just Sylvian, Fripp and Gunn.
I think the KC 4tet with Marotta and Beggs would have been stellar, had it happened. Just my opinion.
MAYBE , BUT MASTELOTTO Y GUNN ARE AWESOME
I LOVE ELEKTRIK / LTIA 4 / LEVEL FIVE THE PROJEKCTS
TCOL ................
I've heard different things about Marotta. That he and Sylvian didn't get along in the studio, and that he would have done the tour but had a prior commitment. Who knows what is true. I know Marotta was a huge Sylvian fan at one time, and said in an interview that Brilliant Trees was one of his favorite albums. Working with an inflexible control freak in the studio may have soured him on Sylvian though.
WOW! Never has Sylvian impressed me more than here!
What a presence in music! What a discrete and still immense passion! What a combination to go with Fripp!
Freakin' awesome!
I love how Fripp has his own sense of time. Its like it floats and ebbs behind and forwards at its own pace. Its it's own kind of animal that just "does."
One of the best concerts ever! Gods...
just wanna say-that is the perfect rhythm section! what a groove
Absolutely! For once Fripp is not the star of the track........And his contribution IS awesome. But........like you said
Notice Pat Mastelotto on drums, and Trey Gunn on touch bass- little wonder they joined Fripp in the reincarnation of King Crimson in 1994. In fact, he wanted Sylvian to front them!
DarkeningSkies1 I never knew that. He should have done it.
@@Bricameron - sorry - I think Belew was the wise choice at the time and looking back as well. Still, would have been interesting to say the least if Silvian took up the role.
@@TJ-be4ju I expect that much ego in one room would have exploded but I agree, it would have been really cool to hear. We got this, though, which was really fun and fresh at the time.
Who is the second guitarist? Here in Nashville, I got to see a lot of Crimson and various projeKcts when Adrian Belew was in the band. They rehearsed at Adrian's studio, and often played around town.
@@smitbow1 Michael Brook is the second guitarist.
If you have not heard it, "Damage" (the album of the tour shown in this footage) is really, really great. It makes the studio cuts from "The First Day" sound almost like rehearsals. And the sound quality is amazingly punchy and vibrant, too.
Agreed, DarkeningSkies... Damage was a miracle, I loved the First Day, but after Damage came out it was the only thing I listened to...
The whole album was pretty much improvised on tour if i remember correctly. Before releasing The First Day Fripp, Sylvian and Gunn toured around and wrote the pieces while touring i think.
@@DonHaka I was under the impression that The First Day album (with Jerry Marotta on drums instead of Pat) was written and recorded before the touring but my memory is hazy.
@@DarkeningSkies1 it was, DS and Fripp toured in 1991 as a three piece with the Chapman player, during that tour they improvosed a lot of the instrumentals during rehearsals and such. Im pretty sure that this is true but i might be wrong.
one of the best songs ever ... just perfect
so glad i am not a musician and can FULLY ENJOY THIS AWESOMENESS, hahahaha!!!
Wait, am a musician and I enjoy this as well. Those are called musos not musicians ; )
I was also at the Nottingham gig, I think it was on a Saturday night. We drove up from London and also had second row seats at the Albert Hall. Fantastic album
Fripp is Miles Davis & John Coltrane of guitar. No contest
no,he is the fripp of guitar
That would be Allan Holdsworth
ok, but you forgot Sylvian; if Fripp is Mlles Davis I think Sylvian could be Chet Baker at least
@I Am The Walrus Thinking may help!
This is just totally fucking COOOOL!!!! ;)
tu można po lewitować....;-}
...oczywiście znam i uwielbiam...szczególne w drodze.... ;-}
Brilliant combination!
This is like a Crim ProjecKt fronted by Sylvian. Love the album from back in the day. Great that it's here to see again and again
I wonder wonder wonder wonder what it would sound like if they added Belew ☺
the best's solo i've ever heard from Fripp.
YEAH AND THE MOST ELEGANT
Una delle più meravigliose cose fatte in musica quest'assolo
saw this tour in nottingham and it was an awesome show..the way these two artists blended on this material is quite surreal...think the live recordings edge the studio album for "feel"...also some sylvain stuff reworked on this tour
i really enjoy the comments for this type of music, very knowledgable and friendly, i guess its the art-house brotherhood mindset ;-). Somehow, after being into Japan, guitar music etc etc, i had never listened to Fripp before today! wow...
"Life is a cattle farm coyotes and the mules" Fripp and Sylvian know and understand the esoteric world very well.
outstanding. fantastic post, thanks so much
la genialidad volcada a la musica
fripp sos un genio!!
Over the top performance
This is perfect.Thanks for posting .
Now i see why king crimson sounds the way it sounds now. There is a lot of crimson kinda patterns going on here, thats the sound fripp got from working with Pat and Trey on this band. I was thinking that Robert didnt do stuff like this before with Adrian, back on the 80s, so this is the answer to my question about the 90`s and 2000`s king Crimson`s Sound. Thank you for posting this!.
wow amazing version
! One of my list
Divine amalgamation...
This is incredible!
I have enjoyed the Sylvian & Fripp album for years but never realized that video footage was available.
I am a great King Crimson fan.
However, I think I enjoy the Sylvian/Fripp grouping better than the Adrian Belew version of King Crimson.
Is this footage available on DVD?
Thanks for posting this!
This is infakt King Crimson together with David Sylvian, or the other way round! It deserves a houndred billion clics! Hey world, can't you feel it? I can!
Très bien 🌸😊💕
FYI this is Pat Mastelotto on drums. I know that Fripp was going to have Marotta and Sylvian in his new King Crimson in the early nineties, but then they did this, and KC happened a little later.
Take the 2000-2004 King Crimson line-up, replace Adrian Belew by David Sylvian and there it is! So Pat Mastoletto on drums, Robert Fripp on guitar, Trey Gunn on stick, David Sylvian on vox and synths. And they added Michael Brook on «infinite guitar»...
Trey Gunn Is palying the Chapman Stick (for those who wondered what that instrument is).
Actually he's playing a Warr Guitar - a touch guitar that actually has more strings than a Chapman Stick.
@@rickhindman5334 Your correct, Trey does play a Warr guitar, but in this video he's playing a 12 string Chapman Stick. There's very clear shots of it at 6.10 and 6.46.
Never heard Fripp? You have a lot of catching up to do, my friend. Have fun!!!!
Is the bass coming from the stick in this video? If so it seemed out of sync in some places. Be interested to know bout that. Great track. Big admirer of d Sylvian's album Brilliant Trees too.
extrait du phénoménal album "the first day" A écouter religieusement pour les amateurs de good rock'n roll !!
En réalité c'est extrait de l'album _Damage_ qui retrace justement la tournée de _The First Day_ ! :)
@boibad12 the double trio was very demanding to listen to-although i loved thrak and vroom at the time, id say it was ultimately a doomed experiment, but kudos to them for trying
Fripp can sweep, he sweeps in Fracture for example, he doesn't do this eny more just because there is no need for sweeping if you play in NST (it's much easier to get tak wide intervalic sound and play arpeggios).
esta cancion QUEMA...
Demasiada informacion...
KC + Sylvian
haha! nonplussed, i like it!
yeah its weird, me being a guitarist, he kinda......slippied through the net..... He is a funny character, i find myself nonplussed ;-)
So, you mean to say that the vocals that were recorded on the Rain Tree Crow recording... the scratch vocals.... that they were recorded over?
It'd be interesting to actually hear those scratch vocals so as to hear what Karn means.
Old cats putting this generation to shame.
@boibad12
i don't know much about the rhythm/drumming stuff - i know mastelotto is more of a rock drummer...all these progressive guys, like bruford etc, seem to either go back to rock or move to jazz exclusively...
try it on 1.5 speed
tengo una duda, aparece un sonido en la viola de fripp que es idéntico al del frippertronic, puede que lo esté usando?
asi es
Poor You :(
Stop the bullshit everyone and enjoy the music
He certainly would of been a good fit for King crimson
who's idea was it to put that annoying video effect in every time they show Fripp?
I don't know but whoever okayed that should should be drawn and quartered, maybe even staked to an anthill as well.
Fripp's lol
Por favor, alguien me dice la formacion completa de este concierto???
11 years later... ^^'
David Sylvian - voice, keyboards, rhythm guitar
Robert Fripp - lead guitar
Michael Brook - Infinite Guitar (which he invented)
Trey Gunn - stick bass
Pat Mastelotto - drums
@boibad12
how so?
Los susurros que aparecen todo el rato en 6:44, que dicen? No logro escuchar bien jaja
f i r e p o w......
Clearly, he doesn't use the sweep piking.
Their art is very indicative of the esoteric world, which most of you will never know or understand.
You sound even more pompous and pretentious than Sylvian.
lol @ "New Standard Tuning" - you mean the standard tuning for violins, violas etc for 500 years? great marketing....
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