1.5 Year 30,000 Mile Review on the Jeep 4xe Wrangler. The Good The Bad & The Ugly.
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
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Good luck to you...liked and subscribed. My wife has had 3 Wrangler Rubicons in a row, and now has a 2024 Willys 4xe, with charging problems here at home apparently not related to the Jeep. Without charging, due to the huge weight, her mpg on gas is worse than on her Rubicons. She loves 'em; we DO have fun in our 1 week of off roading each summer on the beach at OBX, but I confess to being amazed at what a cult car Wranglers are. They simply are less reliable than almost any domestic vehicle, with a boatload of electrical system failures as well as mechanical problems. A complete apples and oranges remark, but I'll stick with Honda ANY day. Jeep knows how to build sturdy, flexible, rough 'n tumble vehicles, but they do NOT know how to build reliable vehicles, after all these years (and I've had Jeep dealer technicians fully agree). There is no excuse for these huge numbers of failures. My opinion is if you're really an off-roader, Wranglers make sense and then some, despite the absurd overpricing (the Willys was 62+k!). My sedate, refined, and reliable 2023 CRV Sport Touring hybrid is loaded, and 23-24k less. If you're buying one just because they look cool, but you don't off road, RECONSIDER. My wife loves her detachable hardtop, so she wouldn't consider a Subaru Outback Wilderness, which is not a rock crawler (but is fine for beaches)...but neither does my wife engage in such tomfoolery. She pays for it, so hubby has no imaginary veto power. Maybe the 22k extra is worth it for the waves on the highway. Sheesh! With a .47CD, you may get 21 electric miles in the urban cycle, but if you're pulling onto the highway with that kind of drag and weight, good luck! :D
Thank you for this video! My husband just bought me a white Willy’s 4xe for Easter.
Congrats on the new Jeep! Be sure to watch the one month review as it goes into much more details of the Jeep. Consider subscribing for lots of Jeep and 4xe specifc content too!
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Great content. We're considering a 4xe and this is good info... Hopefully a 2023/2024 model will not have as many teething issues.
Be sure to watch our other 4xe content. I think the 1 month review is the most informative. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one! Thanks for watching - consider subscribing for more.
Agreed, mine since 4/21’ and no major issues at all, and I don’t baby it at all .. great value.
@@jasonb4988 glad to hear! We're loving it too.
Thanks guys. Appreciate you sharing your experiences. 👍
Thanks for watching! 2.5 year review will post here soon!
The front end creaking was the “cotter pins” not ball joints .. Super easy fix.
The charging system problem indicator was prior to the sudden loss of power notification. As mentioned, waiting for the update was smart. The recalls have been minimal. As mentioned the dealers have access to the technical hotline. So solving an issue is pretty seemless ..The 4Xe is nothing more than excellent .. his wife’s comments are spot on ! Power, mileage, fit and finish, overall value is fantastic .. the lease deal is amazing .. JMO !
Agreed, it's been a great vehicle. Yojc can see our other videos about the recalls and updates.
The clicking noise is loose ball joints, there's actually a TSB on this for many Wranglers and gladiators. It's not the cotter pins making the noise, here is a video explaining the noise and proper fix..
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I’ve owned one since April of 21’ .. Mine was the pins. Having driven many 4X4’s, value for $$ it is fantastic ! I have a High Altitude, love the look. Super happy with it and the free services, I forgot to mention. Enjoy yours ..
Jeep build quality is very good, I had issue with My 2019 Jeep Cherokee Overland 4x4 2.0 liter engine.
Whe I purchased vehicle in 2020 with 8,500 miles I checked carfax I had noticed build date was June 2018 red flags because one of early productions, being new body style and new engine 2.0 liter 4 cylinder engine with intercooled turbo.
After 2 years I got a error code of "Electronic throttle control" I had it towed to CDJR dealership and diagnosed problem was wiring harness that insulation was worn to point that bare wiring was preventing communication from throttle to Electronic throttle control computer jeep would idle, no throttle response.
Covered under Mopar warranty, I talked to technician at dealership I said sounds like build quality issue She said yes, Wiring harness going though metal chassis did not have rubber grommet installed, that why wiring harness failed.
Only issue I have had with the jeep now I have 43,000 miles I get 26.0 mpg combined.
Great vehicle would not hesitate to buy another Jeep, My boss owned 2 Wranglers likes shifting in and out of 4 wheel drive, first SUV I have ever owned.
Great info thanks
Thanks!
April, question for you as I have been considering purchase of the 4xe for some time now. My daily work commute, one way is 20 miles. With the range of the 4xe, would it be more efficient being in hybrid mode for the trip to work and home, or running on electric to work and gas on the return? Is there a way to calculate what mpg I would be getting with a 40 mile total commute?
I have the 2024 4xe Willy’s only complaint is the tires don’t do good on wet roads but don’t know about snow/ice but will find out soon but besides that it’s amazingly great vehicle and we love it period ,..z
Yup after I did the recall update kept getting charge port failure etc, my fix was to turn the amperage on my grizzl e charge box to 24 amps vs the 32 amps it was at originally, so it added a extra 30mins of charge time, so I'm not going to fool with the updates from here on out
Mine ended up being a wire harness from the charge port.
Great rewiew, thank you. I still haven´t gpt mine out on the road yet, because i´m sick, and have no hurry. So noe I am looking at ALL good reports of this legendary, most beautifull, most puposefull, most fun car that ever has been built, in my meaning, so far.
Yesterday I visited my car, got in to it, measured inside, for Having this as my own "little cottage", or for up to 4 peoples, whit a tent and a rack on the roof. with thule for bicykle on the back etc !!!!
I realy love the extra spirit this car gives me, from all back to ( for me ) 1970/ 71 ❤️🇺🇸 !!!
I told my mother, and her " Love of her Life"( EVENTUALY for her, after 77 yares of waiting for THE Prince 🤣), and the got SO happy.
The reason : They / WE got a cottage, that it`s hard to get up to when you´re getting old ( in Body ), they where thinking of fixing the road ( for aronf 100- 200´dollar, but when I said that, if we only cut some trees, it`s easy to get up whith a MY JEEP WRANGLER !!!
She and he ( My mother and "Father"🤣 ), got so realised and happy for this solution, when I said that I coul drive them up Whwn they NEED to visit this BEATIFUL placed Cottage 🌻
Thank U2, for your`s xtra spirit for me and others !!!!
TK🇳🇴
I have the 2024 Sahara 4xe, and after 3 weeks I got the "Service Charging System" error and the dealership is trying to figure out how to fix the issue 😢.
I live in the california desert and my conventional jeep car battery gets pounded. I have to switch every 10 months or so. Does anyone know what the heat will do to these 4xe batteries??
Good honest take. Glad you didn’t take the early bugs as a killer. It’s new tech and Jeep. Some of those bugs go with the territory.
Thanks for watching, as well as your comments. Yes, when we bought it we went into it knowing this was the 1st year etc.
We've been very happy w/ it and have actually just bought a new 2024 4Xe
It’s interesting how I have a 2021 4xe Sahara and we have completely different experiences! Good and bad!
I'd love to hear your experience.. Both the good and bad..
There are some odd differences in the 21 models. My 21 Sahara got the update but the driving mode (hybrid, electric, esave) does not latch. Kind of a bummer, but really not a huge deal at all. On the flip side, I didn't get all the errors that others experienced.
21’ owner as well, nothing but super happy ! HIGHLY RECOMMEND !
Mine has been in form for 4 months now and electric is never available. MY oil life went to 0% after 3 weeks of changing the oil. Ridiculous. Why no recall for this problem. I can never drive in electric mode and I keep getting the oil change message after 1000 km of driving. I am so angry.
I see so many people trade this 21 4xe. It’s American amazing condition
Thank you for the video. Do you know if one could charge the 12 volt battery via solar and if there is a built in dc to dc converter that will charge the battery pack? Or if there is some other way to solar charge the pack? Thanks
I am sure with the proper setup this would be do-able with the right setup. I will say the Large battery is responsible for charging the 12v battery - so your power charging would have to be done from the larger charge port on the Jeep
Youd only get 5 miles on a full sunny day
There is a DC to DC charger, It charges the 12v battery from the 400v EV battery. The battery is ~17Kwh, so its unlikely you'll get a useful charge from any panels you can take with you.
@@Smithdude_ Agreed.
@@alextrainor2552 completely off...maybe if you only used a single panel. With the right setup, you could fully charge this just as fast via solar input as you could via grid input.
I had an 18 JLUR but the stupid clutch recall they could never fix.. I genuinely miss my Jeep, but how they could screw up a clutch with no fix ever is beyond me.. I still think the most reliable version of this is the v6 and automatic transmission. I do though really want a 24 4xe
Wonder what they did to prevent carbon build up? The most reliable direct injection engines have both direct and port FI. Ford learned with their Gen 2 Ecoboost engines they needed the fuel to keep valves clean. Lexus had it at least a decade before that.
There is a mode called Fuel Oil Refresh Mode. Forces the ICE to run under certain conditions.
@@JeepsOnTheRun Ic, but the valves still never see a solvent to clean them since it lacks port injection. I did some reading, looks like some are installing catch cans to try to prevent issues.
@@TobyCostaRica agreed. Time will tell, I have seen catch cans installed as well.
I've read articles that say the 4xe does not work in electric only mode in colder climates. In fact, some 4xe owners are forming a class-action lawsuit against Jeep over the none-performance of some of its hybrid electric vehicles.
Interesting? Mine does fine at 28 degrees so will find out because winter is next month
Be prepared to be disappointed.@@88rushrocks
In the Buffalo cold I get 17 miles of range out of the claimed 21 or 22 whatever it says. I expected the small decrease but other than that its been fine. Ive seen then issues your referring to though and I hope their resolved soon.
Now would you say it was worth the purchase? I’m looking to buy a used 4xe 2021-2022, and my commute in one day because of work and coming back home is a total of 75-80 miles. We have a charger at work that is free which I am stoked for, for when I purchase a plugin hybrid or fully electric vehicle. Even thought the estimated electric range is 21 for the wrangler, I am just worried about the maintenance and gas since I have noticed it only takes premium.
Yes, 100%. we actually traded it in for a 24 4xe after 4k k miles.
You do not have to feed it premium. If you were towing, or driving it hard - I'd suggest it. We never put premium in ours in it's entire 46k miles.
@@JeepsOnTheRun so from time to time yall put regular?! And it’s still running fine up till now?! Like no issues or stuff like that?
No - We never put premium it... ever.
We had a trouble free 46k miles short of a few small recalls or updates. We liked it so much we bought a 2024
@@DonnieDVILL
Although you can opt to put higher octane gas in your vehicle for some enhanced performance, the Jeep Wrangler 4xe does not require premium gas. Opt for 87 regular unleaded fuel to take advantage of the perks of your powerful engine, plus its ability to save money, gas, and time with its hybrid powertrain.
I really want a e-jeep, but it seems I’m stuck with my dated 4Runner.
Stick with the 4 runner, jeeps aren't worth it. They've been having a lot of problems, plus stellantis layed a lot of u.s. workers of for overseas staff.
I want to buy one, but I need a very important question answered. Is it possible to put the vehicle in neutral gear in EV mode (so the gas engine isnt running) and put a 60lb weight on the drivers seat and have the AC or heater on all night without the engine coming on to charge, assuming the battery is fully charged?
The best way to do this would be to leave the vehicle in park, but unplug the door harness (as if you were going to remove a door) this will allow the jeep to not "sleep" It should do what you would intend to do - without having to use a weight or the method you've described.
I’ve seen this post on a couple videos: can you tell me why you’d want to do this
(Or the purpose of it)?
@@AJMichaud1 my guess would be for camping or over landing.
@@AJMichaud1 The only reason I would buy the jeep is to be able access remote nature sites, where there are no hotels and/or it is not convenient to try to find a hotel. PHEVs by Mitsubishi and Toyota in fact come with built in 1500w AC outlets, the Mitsubishi outlander specifically is able to run AC or heating all night without the engine coming on at all to charge up the battery. I'm not sure why many other PHEV makers such as Porsche and even Jeep are actively trying to disable this basic functionality that is built in and easily allowable with most PHEVs. Tesla even has a specific 'camp' mode. While I would prefer a Jeep to an Outlander, if it won't allow the number one purpose for buying the vehicle, obviously I will have to buy an Outlander.
Oh gosh i cant believe i almost choose this for a house away from home built to overland around the world
Why do you think it would have been a bad idea?
Any trouble in the winter with electric?
Nope! Maybe a few less miles in a change
Have the 2024 models fixed these issues?
We just purchased a 2024 - Some of the design things (that I dont consider an issue) are the same. All other issues were even resolved in my 21 after software updates
Where did you get that fleece?
When we had a booth next to Jeep at the Chicago Auto Show, one of their reps helped me out with one :)
This is why I stuck with a gas engine. Electric is cool but it’s still not 100% there yet in terms of convenience.
It definitely has some work - but I think Jeep has done a nice job with it so far. For me this was a good in-between, as I am not ready for full electric.
To say it’s electric is a bit of a stretch. Does it have electrification to help its performance, absolutely, and I can only highly recommend it as I have had mine for two years.
Where can I get a Fleece like that? :)
We were able to snag these from the Camp Jeep team at the chicago auto show. Our club had a display next to them, and we became friendly over the week :)
Does the 2023 have the same issues?
Most all of these issues have been resolved with the latest updates.
Great car to buy and drive and then lemon 😂😂😂
Never any more than a handfull of issues. Far from a lemon 🍋
NO THANKS! I will stick to the V6. The 4xe is too complex for just 25 miles on electric motors. But I understand why others would want the 4xe with the substantial torque and HP.
I definitely understand that it's complex. I lease mine for this reason :)
Of course you can’t blame the stealership they just sell these pieces of crap. The one you have to blame is Stellantis for making these shitty cars
What's there to blame. The vehicles have been great
EVs are crap
Fortunately, this isn't an EV. Most people know nothing about these Jeeps before they make their opinion.
@@JeepsOnTheRun Am glad your happy with it.I’ve test drove Rubicon and Sahara versions of the 4XE.I did like the rubicon drive with the 2.0 engine.
@@JM21999 it's definitely not for everyone, but for us it's a Wrangler with awesome fuel ⛽ economy.