I just put together a mini-course called 'How To Use CAGED' showing you just how powerful this mindset can be. Check it out here: www.guitaralorange.com/how-to-use-the-caged-system
I agree. So many other teachers use too much personality to sell their system and the instruction gets lost. This was very informative and to the point. Thank you very much.
Kirk Lorange Seriously, it's one of the best lessons i have found for visual learners as well. But not as good as it will be if I draw it out and experiment on my own, as i am sure that you recommend. Blessings. - B.
Kirk Lorange ive been a rookie for 30 years on my guitars but just a thought or a tip when you show the neck on a drawing to show your chords if you lay it out so the neck or head is on the right side of your viewing screen its the same as when your playing the guitar. and a little more simple for a rookie to pick it up, know what i mean to me its confusing for me any way but i understood it better when showed just how i see it when looking down at my guitar. i think left handed but i play right handed im not like Mcartney or Jimmy who can do it up side down and backwards even though they were pros when i first looked at the screen it took longer to click. just a thought let me know if it makes sence to you great lesson thank you
I literally punched up phlegm when I read your post. Once my throat cleared, I continued to laugh with tears in my eyes as I attempted to type this post.
For those of us who are self teaching, this is great. Very simply laid out and well explained. I attempted this some time ago and it didn't click. But since playing a little more and understanding more basic theory I can get my head around this. Also, as is so often the case when you're unable to dedicate a lot of time to practice, you need to revisit past sessions. This will no doubt be one but will be understood, again, very quickly. Top job and thanks!
The clearest, most concise explanation of CAGED I've seen. I wish my beginning guitar teacher knew (and taught) this. What if beginners were shown and practiced with this shortly after starting instruction? More (and better) players today is my guess.
I been practicing movable shapes, basic scales and pentatonic scales for a while now I'm just glad I done that first before coming across your video on the caged system makes it so much easier to understand, well done on your explanation sir
Very helpful. A note to others struggling : if you know the open E chord and how to barre to create an barre F, F#, G etc. chord notice then you know are moving the E chord up and down the neck. This same concept applies to all the basic chord shapes. Move the open A chord up a full step and it is a B chord (and add the full barre). A lot of us just play these two basic chords (open E and A variants) with a barre up and down the board and that's all. And it can cover a lot of music. The same concept applies to the C, G, D chords . These are difficult to play with a barre but the basic chord shape can be moved.. play a D chord triad and move it up two frets it becomes an E chord. The outstanding point for me in this lesson is that the fret pattern of the CAGED chords can be memorized and freely shifted to your desired key -- the relation of the chord shapes is constant regardless of key. I will be practicing the triads up and down as shown
Old video but it’s great. AND……hats off to this guy for showing the fretboard from the perspective of the PLAYER. Makes it much easier to grasp and mirror what is happening. He seems To be the only one on UA-cam to figure that out. Lol.
i remember when I watched this video a year ago or so and I didn't really understand what you where explaining. now UA-cam suggested me it again and I understand now what you're talking about! that shows me not only my progress since then, but provides a way to become better! thanks
Good to hear. For the _real_ lesson, consider ordering my PlaneTalk Package. Guaranteed to change the way you see the fretboard for ever more. www.planetalkguitar.com
Amazing. I've been researching CAGED for a couple of weeks now and this was the best video I've found so far. Fantastic resource, thank you for taking the time to put it together.
I'm glad you like it, Kai, I tried to be as concise as I could. You should read my PlaneTalk Package if you think this is good! www.planetalkguitar.com ;-)
this seem impossible to grasp for me a year ago.. its refreshing to get back to this video and suddenly get it and realising it in a such a crystal clear way. and u really put it that way too
As a player of many years, I think this is excellent! Remember there's a lot of information here so don't be discouraged if you don't get it at first. This is the key to understanding the guitar and will improve your playing no end. Kudos to uploader for explaining this in under 10 mins!
Thank you so much! I was struggling to understand the CAGED system before I saw this video; I understood that you could move different chord shapes up the fretboard to make the same chord, but I didn't quite get how I was supposed to use that to play music. Your demonstration just made it all click for me, thanks a lot!
Been playing about 38 years or so, but I've been working on the CAGED system about a year. I believe now that no one should call themselves a guitar teacher if they can't teach CAGED. It (along with learning all the notes and intervals on the fret board) only enhances your ability to express the true art of making music. I used to think that learning theory would stifle creativity. The opposite of that is true...it unlocks creativity. Thanks Kirk, for sharing!
Idc how good you are, If anyone is watching this and sitting here thinking theres nothing to be gained from studying this system, you're just simply a lost cause. And his improvisation, in my opinion, was absolutely fantastic and inspired me to learn this system. This video taught me how it works, and it's an absolute personal revelation for me. Thankyou very much for this video, Kirk!
This video made me "aaah!" Thank you! It finally makes sense! I learned to play guitar on my own, which means I never really had anyone who explained me any theory and I didn't think it'll be useful... I didn't even know the guitar had notes (yes, it was that bad). Until I graduated school and decided to continue a music composition career and turns out I do need to know all of this and it's extremely useful. Thank you, once again!
Yes, Cami, knowledge is good. I'm glad you like the lesson. If you want the last piece of the puzzle, the key to using this information, you should order my PlaneTalk package. It will save you the fifteen or so years it took me to 'see the light'.
Thank you so much! I've never really understood the CAGED system or how the pentatonic scale fits into everything else but I watched this video and literally gasped when I understood it! You are an absolutely amazing teacher, again thank you so much.
+Kirk Lorange the video was a great explanation, so kudos on a clever way to make it graphically clear. I disagree though about sweeping the Greek names from your brain; the CAGED system is for organizing fingering patterns, not for replacing modes in your thinking, and modes aren't positions, since each one occurs all over the fretboard. Visualizing the CAGED positions while you are playing isn't really "just playing" anyway; you're still thinking about theory, which is fine; there is no sudden departure from thinking to playing, but a gradual process of internalization so that less and less thinking about basics is required, and you can think on other things, like what you want to express with whatever you happen to be playing. Still, I can't imagine a more clear or better explanation of CAGED than you gave here, and the graphics were very nicely done.
+Greg Vinson Thanks for the feedback, Greg. For me, CAGED is a whole lot more than organizing finger patterns. It allows me to see and use all 12 notes, all those Greek names rolled into one. I wouldn't know a Lydian from a Dorian if I stumbled over them.
+Kirk Lorange You might not ever refer to them in words, but you're still using some of them and maybe not aware of their names, but there is a very good reason they've been taught for centuries and aren't going out of style; they are basic, distinctive colors for composing and improvising, multiplying the usefulness of the humble Major scale 7x. I could have phrased my point better; I know CAGED isn't about fingerings (although it can help one find them), but it is a way of conceptually organizing patterns contained within the Major scale, over the entire neck, so that all arpeggios, chords, and scale patterns are clearly visualized in a seamless, organized way. Certainly CAGED is very useful, but not a replacement for the rest of music theory, which modes are an important part of. You can in an irrelevant sense, see them all rolled into one, because they are made up of the notes that you're seeing, and I get that CAGED frees you up, because mental organization does that, but when you said you "see and use all 12 notes, all those Greek names rolled into one", you completely missed what modes actually are. The whole point of learning and using them, is that each has a distinct flavor, just as garlic is different than cumin, and both are different from basil, each of the 7 modes is distinct, and you lose that distinction if you try to play them all at once. I'm sure that if you hear a piece in E minor, you wouldn't call it "E minor and G Major, all rolled into one", simply because they contain the same notes. The tonic has to be E for it to be E minor, and the tonic has to be G for it to be G Major; those are simple 2 of the 7 modes, and the other 5 are just as distinct.
+Greg Vinson I'm with you on all that, Greg, and I do understand the modes and their 'colors'. Again, though, I like to be able to see and use all 12 notes, not just 5, 6 or 7. I do of course wind up playing modes, but that's not what I'm thinking of, tracking or being aware of. They just always held me back and hindered. It's a matter of taste I guess. It's melody that I love and strive for and I -- personally -- don't find melody thinking modes, I find it thinking chords.
awesome video! this made a lot of connections in my brain for me. playing guitar and understanding guitar are two different things and videos like this definitely help me understand much better
THIS IS FRIGGEN GENIUS! I've been playing guitar for 7 years now and never really understood how or why so many of the same shapes kept popping up all throughout the neck. This video has been incredibly informative and helpful. Thank you very much!
Thanks, Sean, it is indeed a big lesson. The last piece of the puzzle -- how to truly use this -- is the subject of my book/DVD/private forum package called 'PlaneTalk'. If you want to save years of piecing it all together, order it. Guaranteed to change the way you think about music and look at the fretboard for ever more. :-) www.planetalkguitar.com
Self taught and have played by ear for twenty years and just finally getting around to trying to understand theory. I find your videos very helpful and informative. My only understanding has been what I've memorized and what sounds good. Thank you for your videos.
This makes so much sense for me. Thank you very much! …I don't know why I was having trouble with this before. Maybe it's the way you speak or how you explain things (even the layout of the video) or both. But Wow! While watching, everything started to click together. Thank you, again!
Just the medicine I needed to better convey the CAGED system. Thoroughly insightful video- I implore anybody to take the time out if you're looking to progress as a player. Thanks for your time in sharing, Kirk.
After decades of teaching myself fingerstyle guitar and Scruggs banjo I came across Plane Talk Guitar. Get it and you'll get it. This demo youtube is good but you need the context. PlaneTalk is a very unique, methodical way of learning the C A G E D system. You will not lose sleep memorizing scales and modes. Three basic triads are used to open up a clear way of "seeing" the fretboard. I am getting on in years and don't have time to try "the next best...." This is it A1!
My opinion for what it's worth.... this vid is almost great. prob is that the G shape is just a variation of the A shape. And you are playing aaaalmost arpeggios but skipping some notes. My take is that you should learn the THREE shapes as there are only 3 major inversions. Learn those as full arps across the shape. That's it. THEN tack on the G as a new one later and arpeggiate it across all the strings 1 thru 6 or 6 thru 1 whatever they're numbered. Don't skip any notes in your arpeggios like this vid showed. Just my take on it. PLUS, another good practice.... play the three inversions ONLY on the last 3 strings. Use one chord (C maj, eg) and play it in the 3 shapes on the last 3 strings. Do this for various notes like D, F. THEN use the D, G and B strings for all three inversions. Then use the A, D and G strings and learn those shapes for all 3 inversions. Everything beyond the maj, min, dim, aug... well, even dim and aug are kind of alternates of the maj or min. Just how I see it.
I don't know. :) I am a rock/pop player. Never played jazz and my chords beyond the basics suck. I can see playing "inside" a chord shape while that chord is going on. Makes sense as you can arpeggiate it some too if you want. So many ways of viewing it!
Holy Cow. I've struggled with the concept for years! Your video presentation finally made it click. I have to stop now after the C and practice before my brain gets cloudy! thanks so much.
This makes good sense, I’m trying to teach myself more theory, I love improvising and there’s times I really want to know what I’m doing so I can get the sound I want. This was brilliant! I can’t wait to try it.
Many thanks for this. Even though I finally understood the CAGED concept a while ago, I wish that I had had your video, because it explains the concept beautifully, and also shows the application and usefulness of the idea, which not all videos do.
Thanks, drutgat. I agree, there are many videos here that completely miss the point of CAGED, even some that say it's 'bad for you'. That's like saying having a map of a city you want to explore is bad for you. Ridiculous! They also say that it's a terrible way of learning scales. Maybe it is, but CAGED is about chords, not scales. Most players see scales as being the only way to understand music. I have not thought 'scale' for over thirty years now, thirty years of being a professional guitar player. Chords are the best way to understand a piece of music. As I have said, in all the countless recording sessions I have taken part in, no one has ever handed me a 'scale chart', it's always a chord chart, an no one has ever told me to play a scale or mode of any kind. If they want a solo, they want MELODY, and melody is in the chords. 👍👍🙂
@@kirklorange Thanks for your reply, Kirk, and I completely agree with you about chords being a great basis in terms of a perspective on how to play music, rather than looking only at scales. That's what George, John and Paul realized, too (and that is why George is my favourite guitarist - it is all about melody). Perhaps you can help me with something related to putting the CAGED ideas into practice - maybe even do a follow up to this video. The one difficulty I have in implementing the CAGED system is that I find myself just playing the chord tones *in the order in which they occur*, not knowing most of the time if I can slide or bend into them or not, and finding it difficult to move around without it sounding like I am playing some kind of scale by rote. Similarly, if I try to picture the pentatonic scales at the same time as the CAGED notes, I find it very difficult to do so (but I think they add some variety). Do you have any advice to help me not just slavishly play the chord tones mechanically/robotically? I would love to be able to play an arpeggio to move up the fingerboard, but that always sounds robotic when I do it.
Hi drutgat. You should know that I put this video together as a sort of teaser for my teaching package PlaneTalk which basically shows you how to use CAGED, how to think about music, how to view the fretboard ... so I won't be doing any follow ups. The best advice I can give you is to take the plunge and order the package. All your questions will be answered. www.planetalkguitar.com ~ You won't regret it. Read the reviews at the bottom of the page here: kirk-lorange-guitar-store-usa.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/the-planetalk-book-and-dvd-package
Been playing since 12 and now 26.....I never realized these were fundamental concepts in guitar playing. Guitar is a forgiving instrument, but in the right hands it can humble even the best of musicians. Thank you for this very informative video.
Thanks for your feedback, Alexander. Yes, this is about as fundamental is it gets when it comes to mastering the guitar. 👍 Keeping track of chord tones applies to all instruments but CAGED is strictly guitar ... in standard tuning.
Good video. I already understand the general premise of this, but never really put it to use. Given that these are major "chord tones" I thought it was pretty cool how bluesy they sounded over that particular backing track. Its worthy to mention that pentatonics (in general) work exactly the same way, in that the scale shapes are always the same but they move around the fret board depending on the key or chord you're in. Thanks for the vid
I'm not just using major chord tones in the improv. If the chord is a 7th, then I add the flat 7 to the 1-3-5; if it's a 9th, I can add the flat 7 and the 9, etc. I can also move through the chromatic to connect things up. In the Blues, the 3 can be approached via the flat 3, so there's all kinds of embellishments I can use. But that CAGED is always there to show me where ALL numbers are.
Great Video! I'm self taught and been playing for 4 years everyday and I put it off until I picked up an interval study book a year ago, described the caged system as you did and helped me visualise the roots of each chord from each key. Now I can name every note on the fretboard and scale degree and has helped improved my playing and fretboard understanding. Guitarist who say its not necessary to know it are wrong because it helps tremendously. Thanks for sharing 🙏
I'm missing a piece to fully understand and use this. I been struggling to get any use out of CAGED for a long time. I'm struggling to visualize it's pattern across all the frets. I can visualize the 5 Pentaonic patterns tho but not this. Do you have any suggestions?
@@Travis_in_Florida I do, Travis: order my PlaneTalk Package or join the online version. That's where I explain exactly how to 'see' this and how to use it.
Thank you so much! This video shows me that I can attack the whole neck without fear! It chages my way to see the guitar! I'm ready to go try to master it :)
Glad it works for you, Jonny. If you get stuck in your quest to master using this, my PlaneTalk package will show you how. It took me many years to see the 'trick' to it all.
My friend just told me today about Caged system. After watching this video I am slightly more confused yet more intrigued by this. So thanks. Good video.
I hear a lot of people say that you should learn CAGED instead of 3NPS or vice versa but honestly why not just learn both, it will just give you a greater command of the fret board.
I'm a self taught musician. With that being said, I have no understanding of how to really explain how I play. You however just nailed it down. Great job. I tend to toss the arpeggios, pentatonics, and diatonics with that roadmap. I find that there is no benefit for me to be able to explain music. Being stubborn is all part of my manly essence. I spent years staring at pentatonic box shapes, diatonics, pentatonics, arpeggios, not understanding a darn thing. However the lightbulb finally came on, when you strip it down and look at it, it's easier to see the foundation. Now that the foundation is in, I can say I'm at that point I always wanted to be at. What's next?
I'm also self taught, Joe, and I pieced it all together over the years. When I started getting calls for session work, I realized I needed to learn the language of numbers. When producers told me to 'end your solo on the 6', or add a '2 to the D chord', I had to know what it all meant. It's all numbers and the numbers relate to the chord in play. Once you understand that, you're on your way. Then, it's a lifetime of exploring the possibilities, hearing the numbers and ... having a whole lot of fun!
Glad it's helped you piece it together, Travis. When you want to apply this to all chords of all flavors, order my PlaneTalk package. That's what it teaches.
And then you need to order my PlaneTalk Package and join us at the private forum to discuss what I call "The Easiest Yet Most Powerful Guitar Lesson You Will Ever Learn". ;-) It's not cheap, but there's a 25% off sale on right now. Use JUNE SALE as coupon code.
I've been playing guitar for 12 years and when he first shows the repeating shape pattern I had to pause and make this comment because my mind got way too blown.
yes it is! I've always vaguely known this intuitively, but seeing it was just like "wooooooah" thank you so much, had an awesome jam session last night, you filled in the missing link for me ^__^
+Kirk Lorange It's a huge AHA. I'm never going to forget this. But you could have mentioned that this applies to the chords with minor thirds as well 😉
I bought a guitar book 3 years ago, and it had a chapter named CAGED system, I read it thousand times but I´ve never understood it. Today 3 years later, I watched this video and fully understood everything. you´re a genius kirk! thank you!!
I'm 53 and just basically starting out. All this stuff helps but I get stuck on where to start and what goes with what. I might be guitarded. I cant afford a teacher so online is my only option. All this helps though. Some day ill geterdun. I'll keep pickin along. Thanks Kirk.
If you're just starting out, don't worry too much about this, but when you're ready to take on the whole fretboard and want to know how it all fits together, this is the template.
Awe man, you have blessed me beyond measure. I’ve been trying learn the fretboard for so long. And you opened my eyes! And your solo brought me to tears with its application. I know how to spell and play the chords on the piano but I was alway miffed by the guitar frets. But no more. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I was on ultimate guitar and read an article on CAGED. To be honest, i had heard of the "system" but never took the time to check it out. I am glad I did as it just formulated something I had just done naturally through trial and error 20 years ago. Thank you for this. T
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! A GUITAR TUTORIAL FOR MUSICIANS!!!!!!!!!!! I've been sick to death FOR YEARS of hearing, "put your fingers here for this chord, here for that...." I want to know as a classical musician (F. Horn primary) WHERE, HOW, and WHY. I need to see where the notes are coming from and in what progression and sequence. This fits that bill EXACTLY!!!!!! You have no idea how relieved I am to find this!!!!!!! Ever indebted to you!!!
Thanks for your enthusiastic feedback, Crfor ... I like all those exclamation marks. Glad you like it. You should read my PlaneTalk package if you think this is cool. ;-)
Good to hear, Broh. I have, of course, watched all the lessons here. Most of the teachers don't seem to really know the true power of this mindset, they're always relating it back to scales. CAGED is all about NOT having to think about scales, just melody. Melody Loves Chord Tones.
+DJ Electro Trance Gressor This is THE lesson to learn if you want to really understand the fretboard, DJ. Everything fits into this template ... everything.
I just put together a mini-course called 'How To Use CAGED' showing you just how powerful this mindset can be. Check it out here: www.guitaralorange.com/how-to-use-the-caged-system
This is THE MOST easiest spot-on explanation of the CAGED system...kudos
+Kenny Ken Thanks, Kenny.
there’s always one person saying that shit on every video ab caged
Really well explained with perfect graphics to fully illustrate the concept.
Thanks!
This is one none bs, non boring, compact, structured and understandable explanation. Thanks Sir.
Thank you, SE, I appreciate the positive feedback.
Your welcome! Will explore your channel further :)
I agree. So many other teachers use too much personality to sell their system and the instruction gets lost. This was very informative and to the point. Thank you very much.
And thank you, Heath, for the positive feedback.
The way the information is laid out makes this one of the very best lssson/tutorials I've seen on any subject, anywhere.
burpo Thanks, Burpo.
Kirk Lorange Seriously, it's one of the best lessons i have found for visual learners as well. But not as good as it will be if I draw it out and experiment on my own, as i am sure that you recommend. Blessings. - B.
Brandon Miller Absolutely, Brandon. Draw it ou,t but most of all, experiment and explore on the guitar.
Kirk Lorange ive been a rookie for 30 years on my guitars but just a thought or a tip when you show the neck on a drawing to show your chords if you lay it out so the neck or head is on the right side of your viewing screen its the same as when your playing the guitar. and a little more simple for a rookie to pick it up, know what i mean to me its confusing for me any way but i understood it better when showed just how i see it when looking down at my guitar. i think left handed but i play right handed im not like Mcartney or Jimmy who can do it up side down and backwards even though they were pros when i first looked at the screen it took longer to click. just a thought let me know if it makes sence to you great lesson thank you
brad starkey IM TOTALY WRONG LEFT HAND THINKING SORRY IM ON DRUGS OR SOMETHING UNDER DR CARE
when a golf commentator teaches you guitar
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I literally punched up phlegm when I read your post. Once my throat cleared, I continued to laugh with tears in my eyes as I attempted to type this post.
For those of us who are self teaching, this is great. Very simply laid out and well explained. I attempted this some time ago and it didn't click. But since playing a little more and understanding more basic theory I can get my head around this. Also, as is so often the case when you're unable to dedicate a lot of time to practice, you need to revisit past sessions. This will no doubt be one but will be understood, again, very quickly. Top job and thanks!
This is the clearest explanation of CAGED I've seen so far. Thanks.
You're most welcome, Pete. Thanks for the comment.
The clearest, most concise explanation of CAGED I've seen. I wish my beginning guitar teacher knew (and taught) this. What if beginners were shown and practiced with this shortly after starting instruction? More (and better) players today is my guess.
Thanks, fly, glad you approve. It is indeed a big lesson. The second biggest. THE biggest is the subject of my PlaneTalk Package.;-)
Wow! It's been like 3 years and this guy still takes the effort to reply to all comments, damn topping my hat for that.
And I reply within hours! Cheers, Chris, thanks for the comment.
Interesting presentation, that simplifies what seems to be some kind of a mysterious method to learn guitar better. Thank you!
I been practicing movable shapes, basic scales and pentatonic scales for a while now I'm just glad I done that first before coming across your video on the caged system makes it so much easier to understand, well done on your explanation sir
I'm glad to hear this helped, Max. 👍
Very helpful. A note to others struggling : if you know the open E chord and how to barre to create an barre F, F#, G etc. chord notice then you know are moving the E chord up and down the neck. This same concept applies to all the basic chord shapes. Move the open A chord up a full step and it is a B chord (and add the full barre). A lot of us just play these two basic chords (open E and A variants) with a barre up and down the board and that's all. And it can cover a lot of music.
The same concept applies to the C, G, D chords . These are difficult to play with a barre but the basic chord shape can be moved.. play a D chord triad and move it up two frets it becomes an E chord.
The outstanding point for me in this lesson is that the fret pattern of the CAGED chords can be memorized and freely shifted to your desired key -- the relation of the chord shapes is constant regardless of key.
I will be practicing the triads up and down as shown
Old video but it’s great. AND……hats off to this guy for showing the fretboard from the perspective of the PLAYER. Makes it much easier to grasp and mirror what is happening. He seems
To be the only one on UA-cam to figure that out. Lol.
Thanks, TDZ ... glad you approve!
i remember when I watched this video a year ago or so and I didn't really understand what you where explaining. now UA-cam suggested me it again and I understand now what you're talking about! that shows me not only my progress since then, but provides a way to become better! thanks
What a difference a year makes!
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I've been hearing bits and pieces about this caged system for almost a year and never had the conviction to learn it until I ran across this
Good to hear. For the _real_ lesson, consider ordering my PlaneTalk Package. Guaranteed to change the way you see the fretboard for ever more. www.planetalkguitar.com
Amazing. I've been researching CAGED for a couple of weeks now and this was the best video I've found so far. Fantastic resource, thank you for taking the time to put it together.
I'm glad you like it, Kai, I tried to be as concise as I could. You should read my PlaneTalk Package if you think this is good! www.planetalkguitar.com ;-)
this seem impossible to grasp for me a year ago.. its refreshing to get back to this video and suddenly get it and realising it in a such a crystal clear way. and u really put it that way too
That's good to hear, Marian, I'm glad you stuck at it. Thanks for the update and the nice feedback. 👍
As a player of many years, I think this is excellent! Remember there's a lot of information here so don't be discouraged if you don't get it at first. This is the key to understanding the guitar and will improve your playing no end. Kudos to uploader for explaining this in under 10 mins!
+sniff rat Thanks sniff rat. There are quite a few other tutorials on CAGED here but none seem to explain its real power. I'm glad you like it.
Thank you so much! I was struggling to understand the CAGED system before I saw this video; I understood that you could move different chord shapes up the fretboard to make the same chord, but I didn't quite get how I was supposed to use that to play music. Your demonstration just made it all click for me, thanks a lot!
You're most welcome and I'm very pleased to read your post.
Greatest explanation of this system I have ever heard. Hats off to you brother, keep doing what you love. Thank you for the tremendous help.
Glad you're enjoying this new look at the fretboard. :-)
30 years I've been wondering about this but not getting it... until now - thanks! it's opened up a new door in my mind!
Good to hear! Order my PlaneTalk Package if you want that door kicked wide open!
Been playing about 38 years or so, but I've been working on the CAGED system about a year. I believe now that no one should call themselves a guitar teacher if they can't teach CAGED. It (along with learning all the notes and intervals on the fret board) only enhances your ability to express the true art of making music. I used to think that learning theory would stifle creativity. The opposite of that is true...it unlocks creativity. Thanks Kirk, for sharing!
You're welcome, Mike.
mike Braxus Lol I Play Guitar But Don't Even Know what the string letters are
From all the videos I have watched on UA-cam pertaining to the CAGED system , this one is at the top of the list
Thanks so much for that feedback, Steve. 👍
Idc how good you are, If anyone is watching this and sitting here thinking theres nothing to be gained from studying this system, you're just simply a lost cause. And his improvisation, in my opinion, was absolutely fantastic and inspired me to learn this system. This video taught me how it works, and it's an absolute personal revelation for me. Thankyou very much for this video, Kirk!
Thanks, Dylan.
Never seen anyone explain this simply for a non-guitarist. Very well executed.
+SRNF Thanks for the feedback, SRNF.
+Kirk Lorange No problem. Music instructors often explain things more difficultly then they need too.
+SRNF I agree. Why they would do that is anyone's guess.
This video made me "aaah!" Thank you! It finally makes sense! I learned to play guitar on my own, which means I never really had anyone who explained me any theory and I didn't think it'll be useful... I didn't even know the guitar had notes (yes, it was that bad). Until I graduated school and decided to continue a music composition career and turns out I do need to know all of this and it's extremely useful. Thank you, once again!
Yes, Cami, knowledge is good. I'm glad you like the lesson. If you want the last piece of the puzzle, the key to using this information, you should order my PlaneTalk package. It will save you the fifteen or so years it took me to 'see the light'.
Hands down one of the greatest online tutorials I have ever seen.
Thanks so much, Ryan.
Thank you so much! I've never really understood the CAGED system or how the pentatonic scale fits into everything else but I watched this video and literally gasped when I understood it! You are an absolutely amazing teacher, again thank you so much.
Thanks, PPP, glad you enjoyed it. You should check out my PlaneTalk book/dvd/slide rule/forum package for a real revelation. www.planetalkguitar.com
Mind blown. It all makes sense now especially looking at 2:53 you can see it all plotted out. Thank you!
After playing for 35+ years, I finally see the chords shapes across the entire fretboad now. Thank you for the simple diagrams.
Thanks for telling me that, Bradley. Now you're really going to start having fun.
Funnily enough I feel un-CAGED after watching this vid. Much respect for the solo too I might add.
+George B This will set you free, George. You'll be able to sweep those Greek names from your brain and just _play_. Thanks for the feedback.
+Kirk Lorange the video was a great explanation, so kudos on a clever way to make it graphically clear.
I disagree though about sweeping the Greek names from your brain; the CAGED system is for organizing fingering patterns, not for replacing modes in your thinking, and modes aren't positions, since each one occurs all over the fretboard.
Visualizing the CAGED positions while you are playing isn't really "just playing" anyway; you're still thinking about theory, which is fine; there is no sudden departure from thinking to playing, but a gradual process of internalization so that less and less thinking about basics is required, and you can think on other things, like what you want to express with whatever you happen to be playing.
Still, I can't imagine a more clear or better explanation of CAGED than you gave here, and the graphics were very nicely done.
+Greg Vinson Thanks for the feedback, Greg. For me, CAGED is a whole lot more than organizing finger patterns. It allows me to see and use all 12 notes, all those Greek names rolled into one. I wouldn't know a Lydian from a Dorian if I stumbled over them.
+Kirk Lorange You might not ever refer to them in words, but you're still using some of them and maybe not aware of their names, but there is a very good reason they've been taught for centuries and aren't going out of style; they are basic, distinctive colors for composing and improvising, multiplying the usefulness of the humble Major scale 7x.
I could have phrased my point better; I know CAGED isn't about fingerings (although it can help one find them), but it is a way of conceptually organizing patterns contained within the Major scale, over the entire neck, so that all arpeggios, chords, and scale patterns are clearly visualized in a seamless, organized way. Certainly CAGED is very useful, but not a replacement for the rest of music theory, which modes are an important part of.
You can in an irrelevant sense, see them all rolled into one, because they are made up of the notes that you're seeing, and I get that CAGED frees you up, because mental organization does that, but when you said you "see and use all 12 notes, all those Greek names rolled into one", you completely missed what modes actually are. The whole point of learning and using them, is that each has a distinct flavor, just as garlic is different than cumin, and both are different from basil, each of the 7 modes is distinct, and you lose that distinction if you try to play them all at once.
I'm sure that if you hear a piece in E minor, you wouldn't call it "E minor and G Major, all rolled into one", simply because they contain the same notes. The tonic has to be E for it to be E minor, and the tonic has to be G for it to be G Major; those are simple 2 of the 7 modes, and the other 5 are just as distinct.
+Greg Vinson I'm with you on all that, Greg, and I do understand the modes and their 'colors'. Again, though, I like to be able to see and use all 12 notes, not just 5, 6 or 7. I do of course wind up playing modes, but that's not what I'm thinking of, tracking or being aware of. They just always held me back and hindered. It's a matter of taste I guess. It's melody that I love and strive for and I -- personally -- don't find melody thinking modes, I find it thinking chords.
awesome video! this made a lot of connections in my brain for me. playing guitar and understanding guitar are two different things and videos like this definitely help me understand much better
Good to hear, Jack. You should see what's in my PlaneTalk Package ... the last piece of the puzzle, I call it, and so do all who have bought it.
will do! thanks for the help:)
THIS IS FRIGGEN GENIUS! I've been playing guitar for 7 years now and never really understood how or why so many of the same shapes kept popping up all throughout the neck. This video has been incredibly informative and helpful. Thank you very much!
Thanks, Sean, it is indeed a big lesson. The last piece of the puzzle -- how to truly use this -- is the subject of my book/DVD/private forum package called 'PlaneTalk'. If you want to save years of piecing it all together, order it. Guaranteed to change the way you think about music and look at the fretboard for ever more. :-) www.planetalkguitar.com
One of the better explanations of CAGED I've heard!
Thanks, Charvel. I agree, there are certainly some awful ones out there!
@@kirklorange 👍
Best vid I've seen on the CAGED system
Thanks so much, Robbie. I agree ;-)
Self taught and have played by ear for twenty years and just finally getting around to trying to understand theory. I find your videos very helpful and informative. My only understanding has been what I've memorized and what sounds good. Thank you for your videos.
You're very welcome, Chris. Glad they're helping you unravel the mysteries of music and the guitar.
I love having Liam Neeson teach me guitar. \m/
Sam Lambert I had to pay him big bucks to do the voice over ...
Still a great tutorial! But I can’t unhear it now lol
ikr the only bad thing about it is that if you dont learn his lessons hes gonna find you and break your legs xD
He's teaching you a particular set of skills.
@@towlie337 Taken to his CAGED system
Really nice diagram of the various moveable note shapes on the fretboard. Makes it very easy to see as a novice guitar player.
Glad you like it! Thanks for commenting.
Best succinct CAGED summary I've seen. This is fantastic.
Thanks, James, glad you like it.
What a brilliantly simple and effective way to explain this.
Thanks, mason. You should check out my PlaneTalk Package ;-) www.planetalkguitar.com
This really opens my mind to thinking of the CAGED as a circle instead of a straight line, nice explanation.
Thanks for the feedback!
Kirk you have a black belt in guitar ;) You are one of a select few teachers I follow on YT. Thanks so much for your all your vids!
And thank you, Greg, for your nice feedback. Much appreciated.
Great visual demonstrations and editing. All guitar tutorials should be like this.
Thanks so much, Samuel. 👍
uploaded 3 years ago, yet you still reply comments in a heart beat
Yep ... :-) Sometimes two or three heartbeats.
This video is the best explanation of the CAGED system in existence. Thanks Kirk for all your great work, and all of your help. sincerely, tweed
Thanks, Tweed.
This makes so much sense for me. Thank you very much! …I don't know why I was having trouble with this before. Maybe it's the way you speak or how you explain things (even the layout of the video) or both. But Wow! While watching, everything started to click together. Thank you, again!
You're very welcome. I'm glad to have helped with the clicking.
You have the CAGED System down perfectly AND you can play the guitar upside down....impressive.
🙂👍
So far you've got the simplest form, nicely paced caged system on the tubes. Thanks!
Thanks for that. That's what I set out to all those years ago.
Probably the clearest explanation for the caged system
Probably? Definitely. 😉 Most of the teachers here don't seem to know what it's about, they call it a 'method'. It's just a map.
@@kirklorange 🤣👍
Best explanation and demo for a novice ever. My thanks.
Thanks, g.
Just the medicine I needed to better convey the CAGED system. Thoroughly insightful video- I implore anybody to take the time out if you're looking to progress as a player. Thanks for your time in sharing, Kirk.
Glad it works for you, Jay, thanks for the feedback.
Great video, really just lays it all out crystal clear. No waffling around
Thanks so much, Glenn.
The best explanation I saw. Very well done.
Thanks, Bob. 👍😎
I have watched a dozen CAGED videos. Your graphics really made it make a whole lot more sense. Thanks!
Glad to hear that, Derek, I did put a lot of time into trying to make all very clear.
After decades of teaching myself fingerstyle guitar and Scruggs banjo I came across Plane Talk Guitar. Get it and you'll get it. This demo youtube is good but you need the context. PlaneTalk is a very unique, methodical way of learning the C A G E D system. You will not lose sleep memorizing scales and modes. Three basic triads are used to open up a clear way of "seeing" the fretboard. I am getting on in years and don't have time to try "the next best...." This is it A1!
+TheBanjopilot Hi uncle, sold in Spanish?
+TheBanjopilot Your right I don't have the context and don't understand it?
+Ruben M Hi, Ruben. I do in fact have a Spanish translation of this. Drop me a line: planetalk at gmail dot com and I'll give you more information.
My opinion for what it's worth.... this vid is almost great. prob is that the G shape is just a variation of the A shape. And you are playing aaaalmost arpeggios but skipping some notes. My take is that you should learn the THREE shapes as there are only 3 major inversions. Learn those as full arps across the shape. That's it. THEN tack on the G as a new one later and arpeggiate it across all the strings 1 thru 6 or 6 thru 1 whatever they're numbered. Don't skip any notes in your arpeggios like this vid showed. Just my take on it. PLUS, another good practice.... play the three inversions ONLY on the last 3 strings. Use one chord (C maj, eg) and play it in the 3 shapes on the last 3 strings. Do this for various notes like D, F. THEN use the D, G and B strings for all three inversions. Then use the A, D and G strings and learn those shapes for all 3 inversions. Everything beyond the maj, min, dim, aug... well, even dim and aug are kind of alternates of the maj or min. Just how I see it.
You see it well, TS.
I don't know. :) I am a rock/pop player. Never played jazz and my chords beyond the basics suck. I can see playing "inside" a chord shape while that chord is going on. Makes sense as you can arpeggiate it some too if you want. So many ways of viewing it!
man I am so high right now I dont know what is going on
Holy Cow. I've struggled with the concept for years! Your video presentation finally made it click. I have to stop now after the C and practice before my brain gets cloudy! thanks so much.
Glad it worked for you, SV. You should order my PlaneTalk package for the *_really_* big lesson.
I already knew all of this... except I have never heard this mnemonic device. This makes it MUCH easier to improvise!
Good to hear. Thanks for the feedback.
This makes good sense, I’m trying to teach myself more theory, I love improvising and there’s times I really want to know what I’m doing so I can get the sound I want. This was brilliant! I can’t wait to try it.
That's great to hear, techx. Glad you like it.
This is the most helpful video I've found for understanding the CAGED system! Thank you for this.
You're most welcome 👍
Many thanks for this. Even though I finally understood the CAGED concept a while ago, I wish that I had had your video, because it explains the concept beautifully, and also shows the application and usefulness of the idea, which not all videos do.
Thanks, drutgat. I agree, there are many videos here that completely miss the point of CAGED, even some that say it's 'bad for you'. That's like saying having a map of a city you want to explore is bad for you. Ridiculous! They also say that it's a terrible way of learning scales. Maybe it is, but CAGED is about chords, not scales. Most players see scales as being the only way to understand music. I have not thought 'scale' for over thirty years now, thirty years of being a professional guitar player. Chords are the best way to understand a piece of music. As I have said, in all the countless recording sessions I have taken part in, no one has ever handed me a 'scale chart', it's always a chord chart, an no one has ever told me to play a scale or mode of any kind. If they want a solo, they want MELODY, and melody is in the chords. 👍👍🙂
@@kirklorange Thanks for your reply, Kirk, and I completely agree with you about chords being a great basis in terms of a perspective on how to play music, rather than looking only at scales. That's what George, John and Paul realized, too (and that is why George is my favourite guitarist - it is all about melody).
Perhaps you can help me with something related to putting the CAGED ideas into practice - maybe even do a follow up to this video. The one difficulty I have in implementing the CAGED system is that I find myself just playing the chord tones *in the order in which they occur*, not knowing most of the time if I can slide or bend into them or not, and finding it difficult to move around without it sounding like I am playing some kind of scale by rote.
Similarly, if I try to picture the pentatonic scales at the same time as the CAGED notes, I find it very difficult to do so (but I think they add some variety).
Do you have any advice to help me not just slavishly play the chord tones mechanically/robotically? I would love to be able to play an arpeggio to move up the fingerboard, but that always sounds robotic when I do it.
Hi drutgat. You should know that I put this video together as a sort of teaser for my teaching package PlaneTalk which basically shows you how to use CAGED, how to think about music, how to view the fretboard ... so I won't be doing any follow ups. The best advice I can give you is to take the plunge and order the package. All your questions will be answered. www.planetalkguitar.com ~ You won't regret it.
Read the reviews at the bottom of the page here: kirk-lorange-guitar-store-usa.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/the-planetalk-book-and-dvd-package
that easy to read book was the breakthrough for me....I recommend it to EVERYONE, the easiest theory lesson I've ever had, then or since.
Again ... thanks, BEAR.
Been playing since 12 and now 26.....I never realized these were fundamental concepts in guitar playing. Guitar is a forgiving instrument, but in the right hands it can humble even the best of musicians. Thank you for this very informative video.
Thanks for your feedback, Alexander. Yes, this is about as fundamental is it gets when it comes to mastering the guitar. 👍 Keeping track of chord tones applies to all instruments but CAGED is strictly guitar ... in standard tuning.
Gandalf voice explaining guitar? Great
+Alcarlera You're the second person to say that ... I don't even know who that is!
+Kirk Lorange Gandalf! From the Lord of the rings! Played by the actor Ian McKellen
+Alcarlera Aha ... now I know who you mean. Really?
+Kirk Lorange yes! It reminded me of his voice :)
+IamFriendZone No, I wasn't. I never saw Lord of the Rings. That kind of stuff leaves me cold, I'm afraid.
Good video. I already understand the general premise of this, but never really put it to use.
Given that these are major "chord tones" I thought it was pretty cool how bluesy they sounded over that particular backing track.
Its worthy to mention that pentatonics (in general) work exactly the same way, in that the scale shapes are always the same but they move around the fret board depending on the key or chord you're in.
Thanks for the vid
I'm not just using major chord tones in the improv. If the chord is a 7th, then I add the flat 7 to the 1-3-5; if it's a 9th, I can add the flat 7 and the 9, etc. I can also move through the chromatic to connect things up. In the Blues, the 3 can be approached via the flat 3, so there's all kinds of embellishments I can use. But that CAGED is always there to show me where ALL numbers are.
Kirk Lorange
Goes to show what I know :> Maybe I should look into getting the course. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
IPushHard You won't regret it ... I call it 'The easiest yet most powerful guitar lesson you will ever learn'.
so do the modes useing the intervals table
Excellent use of animation the moving guitar body along the neck is so clear.
Thanks, mate. Glad you approve. 👍
This is such a useful concept. Thank you for sharing!
Exellent teaching, calm, concice and understandable.
Shared!
Glad you enjoyed it, Håvard.
Very good graphics. Clearly explained. Good work!
Thanks so much, Walker.
Great Video! I'm self taught and been playing for 4 years everyday and I put it off until I picked up an interval study book a year ago, described the caged system as you did and helped me visualise the roots of each chord from each key. Now I can name every note on the fretboard and scale degree and has helped improved my playing and fretboard understanding. Guitarist who say its not necessary to know it are wrong because it helps tremendously. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Indeed.
I'm missing a piece to fully understand and use this. I been struggling to get any use out of CAGED for a long time. I'm struggling to visualize it's pattern across all the frets. I can visualize the 5 Pentaonic patterns tho but not this. Do you have any suggestions?
@@Travis_in_Florida I do, Travis: order my PlaneTalk Package or join the online version. That's where I explain exactly how to 'see' this and how to use it.
Change the way you view music.... Forever more...
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Thank you so much! This video shows me that I can attack the whole neck without fear! It chages my way to see the guitar! I'm ready to go try to master it :)
Glad it works for you, Jonny. If you get stuck in your quest to master using this, my PlaneTalk package will show you how. It took me many years to see the 'trick' to it all.
My friend just told me today about Caged system. After watching this video I am slightly more confused yet more intrigued by this. So thanks. Good video.
Thanks, Michael. It's a big lesson.
Gush!!!! I needed this like five years ago!
:-) ... never too late.
AHHHH!!! Its a way to basically see the scales!
Easily the best explanation on this matter that I've come across! So I thank you from the bottom of my heart, Sir!
Thanks, mate, glad you like it.
I hear a lot of people say that you should learn CAGED instead of 3NPS or vice versa but honestly why not just learn both, it will just give you a greater command of the fret board.
Yeah, the people arguing about that don't generally seem to understand the depth and usefulness of CAGED. A + B is usually better, that A or B.
fantastic friendly explanation, thank you
Thanks!
Omg, I see this so clearly. THANK YOU. I’m a pianist and have always been perplexed by the layout of the fretboard; until now 💜
I'm a self taught musician. With that being said, I have no understanding of how to really explain how I play. You however just nailed it down. Great job. I tend to toss the arpeggios, pentatonics, and diatonics with that roadmap. I find that there is no benefit for me to be able to explain music. Being stubborn is all part of my manly essence. I spent years staring at pentatonic box shapes, diatonics, pentatonics, arpeggios, not understanding a darn thing. However the lightbulb finally came on, when you strip it down and look at it, it's easier to see the foundation. Now that the foundation is in, I can say I'm at that point I always wanted to be at. What's next?
I'm also self taught, Joe, and I pieced it all together over the years. When I started getting calls for session work, I realized I needed to learn the language of numbers. When producers told me to 'end your solo on the 6', or add a '2 to the D chord', I had to know what it all meant. It's all numbers and the numbers relate to the chord in play. Once you understand that, you're on your way. Then, it's a lifetime of exploring the possibilities, hearing the numbers and ... having a whole lot of fun!
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Indeed.
Great vid man, very well spoken.
Thanks, mate, glad it works for you.
Guitar theory classes definitely didn't explain it like this. Thanks for making it make sense and not in a mess of words.
Glad it's helped you piece it together, Travis. When you want to apply this to all chords of all flavors, order my PlaneTalk package. That's what it teaches.
Brilliant so well explained
Thanks so much, Gary. :-)
am going to keep watching this until it sinks in ha ha ha thanks for doing the vid.
And then you need to order my PlaneTalk Package and join us at the private forum to discuss what I call "The Easiest Yet Most Powerful Guitar Lesson You Will Ever Learn". ;-) It's not cheap, but there's a 25% off sale on right now. Use JUNE SALE as coupon code.
I've been playing guitar for 12 years and when he first shows the repeating shape pattern I had to pause and make this comment because my mind got way too blown.
+Goonwood It's a big AHA moment, isn't it?
yes it is! I've always vaguely known this intuitively, but seeing it was just like "wooooooah" thank you so much, had an awesome jam session last night, you filled in the missing link for me ^__^
+Kirk Lorange your jam at the end is super clean too, nice playing man
+Goonwood Thanks, mate. Glad you had fun jamming.
+Kirk Lorange
It's a huge AHA. I'm never going to forget this. But you could have mentioned that this applies to the chords with minor thirds as well 😉
I bought a guitar book 3 years ago, and it had a chapter named CAGED system, I read it thousand times but I´ve never understood it.
Today 3 years later, I watched this video and fully understood everything.
you´re a genius kirk! thank you!!
Thanks, facu. You should see what PlaneTalk teaches!
I wish I'd started classical guitar w this kind of training. I might've actually learned to play it.
Yes, me too!
I'm 53 and just basically starting out. All this stuff helps but I get stuck on where to start and what goes with what. I might be guitarded. I cant afford a teacher so online is my only option. All this helps though. Some day ill geterdun. I'll keep pickin along. Thanks Kirk.
If you're just starting out, don't worry too much about this, but when you're ready to take on the whole fretboard and want to know how it all fits together, this is the template.
"Guitarded". I liked your comment just because of that haha nice
Is it okay if begin with this and understand how the sounds and different chords are formed? or should I just study the chords out of head?
I'm making some progress. Thanks Guys.
Awe man, you have blessed me beyond measure. I’ve been trying learn the fretboard for so long. And you opened my eyes! And your solo brought me to tears with its application. I know how to spell and play the chords on the piano but I was alway miffed by the guitar frets. But no more. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm very happy to hear that, G. Thanks so much for the nice feedback.
Thank you! Makes much more sense to me now and I've been searching for a while👍✌
Oh &yes of course I subscribed! 😊
You're most welcome. My PlaneTalk Package reveals the way to actually use this. Nudge nudge, wink wink. ;-)
This has helped me so much. Thanks mate.
You're welcome, duff. Thanks for the feedback. (If you think this is helpful, you should find what PlaneTalk is all about. :-) www.planetalkguitar.com
I was on ultimate guitar and read an article on CAGED. To be honest, i had heard of the "system" but never took the time to check it out. I am glad I did as it just formulated something I had just done naturally through trial and error 20 years ago. Thank you for this.
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You're most welcome, Antonio.
I really want to memorize where all the notes are on the fret board by 2019!
Wow, this is best video about the caged system I have ever seen!
btw: it's the only one too
Thanks, Peter.
That last part was probably the best, most listenable playing I've ever heard on a YT lesson. Tasty!
Thanks so much, Ben. I don't get too many comments on that bit of playing and I appreciate it when I do. The playing is what it's about, in the end.
I think youve finally made it click for me thank you very much for the great explaination.
I'm glad to hear that, Ryan. Thanks for the comment.
This guys voice is so nice and relaxing. He sounds like the narrator in an old Christmas movie
Rudolph with your chords so bright, won’t you play guitar tonight?
Oh boy
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! A GUITAR TUTORIAL FOR MUSICIANS!!!!!!!!!!! I've been sick to death FOR YEARS of hearing, "put your fingers here for this chord, here for that...." I want to know as a classical musician (F. Horn primary) WHERE, HOW, and WHY. I need to see where the notes are coming from and in what progression and sequence. This fits that bill EXACTLY!!!!!! You have no idea how relieved I am to find this!!!!!!! Ever indebted to you!!!
Thanks for your enthusiastic feedback, Crfor ... I like all those exclamation marks. Glad you like it. You should read my PlaneTalk package if you think this is cool. ;-)
Yes Kirk, VERY IMPRESSED!! Will be ordering your PlaneTalk package. THANKS SO MUCH!!!
You are awesome, Kirk!!!
holy shit out of all videos this is the only one that i understand thank you for this
Good to hear, Broh. I have, of course, watched all the lessons here. Most of the teachers don't seem to really know the true power of this mindset, they're always relating it back to scales. CAGED is all about NOT having to think about scales, just melody. Melody Loves Chord Tones.
Pretty cool video. I never used caged system. I need to find time to learn this. It may be a good tool in the tool box.
+DJ Electro Trance Gressor This is THE lesson to learn if you want to really understand the fretboard, DJ. Everything fits into this template ... everything.
That has to be one of, if not THE, best explanations of the CAGED system I have heard. Thank you.
+Jeremy Jones Thanks, Jeremy.