Idk @@DuViPo , sounds like exactly what a man needs out of therapy A little bit of venting his emotions out physically, with the added relief of success from having to work for it through some trial and error
It's a shame Jack did not notice that you could choose to play as young Kratos once you finish the Valhalla story. Would have liked to see his reaction to that.
SEAN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR YOU !! there actually is MORE story in the game that’s actually kinda important if you keep playing ,, the story doesn’t stop there just bc he overcomes his past , it continues because now that kratos has done what he has to do in his valhalla mimir now needs to do the same in his , i highly recommend making another part for that as there’s also another ending afterwards and finally PRESS R3 IN THE APPEARANCE MENU YOU CRIMINAL
"Another weapon? That's cheating!" Says the man with 3 main weapons, busts out magic swords constantly, and carries around the head of the smartest man alive like an I Phone that can't call people
I love how Jack is always like, “Are we gonna go back to Greece? Are we gonna get more Greek stuff?” Then when he gets more Greek stuff (the appearance and armor) he doesn’t even use it.
He means going back to the crater filled with dead bodies that Kratos caused to implode because there's no Gods to keep it stable anymore (possibly full of Romans now because he left a bunch of God power there)
The entire series was Kratos learning to accept who his son was and who he was going to be. But we never saw Kratos accept who he was and what he is going to do. And this extra story here brought a tear to my eye. Our boy has finally grown into the god he was meant to be. :')
If there's anything I'm happy about in this DLC, it's us getting to actually see Tyr, and not Odin's bastardized version of him. Especially with him talking to Kratos as an equal, both being Gods of War. An incredible decision
Yeah, but it's not the same. Here we were able to interact with him and see some of his abilities and knowledge as the former God of War. We saw him at the end of last game's campaign, but it was an optional encounter that many people missed and where we weren't able to fully appreciate his character (other than finding him doing yoga)
@@xcor3103 Fair I suppose. I look at it as two sides of a coin. Peace and unity is as important to Tyr's character as being a world-trotting warrior. Personally I think encountering him around the realms was just as meaningful, in its own way.
@@MedSurg420 I meant that we get to see more of him than just those encounters around the realms in the postgame. Both are extremely important, but Tyr takes a much more active role in the story here, as opposed to being a missable character in the base game
Christopher Judge's performance in this was PHENOMENAL. it's difficult to portray the kind of internal conflict Kratos has, and Judge did it FLAWLESSLY.
That pause and facial expression the moment he sits on the throne, the realisation flowing through him of how far he's come, is nothing short of incredible
Thank you!! I was looking for this comment and couldn’t find anyone else praising Judge’s performance- his characterization of Kratos throughout the series has been amazing, but he took it to another level in this DLC- man did *not* have to go so hard with the throne monologue lmaoo
just for those who might not know, the notebook is written by Kratos for Atreus, therefore the way he refers to the reader like he is addressing them personally
Tyr's weird sword from a "far-off-land" appears to be a macuahuitl, an Aztec weapon that was essentially a club/sword with obsidian blades embedded along the edges. They were metal AF and deserve more widespread recognition.
I think it's gonna send Kratos around Europe like they tried to do with JoJo So depending on where the Aztec culture was most prevalent he MIGHT be going there But I think he's going to Ireland next if anyone picks the IP up again Where do YOU think he's gonna go
Ah, I guessed it was either aztec or mayan. I'd fucking love for them to go to some native american mythology. I feel like those don't get enough love, even though they're SO fucking cool!
@@AxiEisa Originally, God of War 2018 was supposed to be in Egypt if I recall correctly. They might circle back around to that idea next section of GoW and we can see some Egyptian Deity slaughter, lol. I say next section because they’ll possibly make another Norse game, idk
@@guts60 given the DLC of Kratos trying to work through his problems. How would they orchestrate that it could be a situation of the Egyptian gods don’t want Kratos in Egypt but it feels like they’re trying to work in Kratos settling in Norse mythology. it could be Aetraces quest next that would be cool, but I don’t know how many fans would return for that
I absolutely love this take on Valhalla, it's accurate to mythology in that it's an endless training ground for fallen warriors to master themselves (normally training for Ragnarök) But I love the idea that along with the physical training it focuses on mastery of the self and the final battlefield being the mind. It's just a beautiful way of incorporating therapy into God of War that's perfect for Kratos, it's almost a concentrated solution of the journey Kratos has been on since 2018.
Odin made Tyr such a pushover when he was impersonating him. But this man's a monster. Complete mastery over weaponry from multiple pantheons. I can see now why he's the Norse God of War.
Seeing Tyr with the macuahuitl had me so hyped. If the games continue (maybe with the idea of Kratos having to go around as the new god of war preventing various pantheons’ end of the world events) I’d love to see him in the Aztec pantheon with that weapon and interacting with/seeing Quetzalcoatl, I think I’d lose my mind from the hype. Same with Egypt and him fighting Apophis
@@ChaosKing210Only requirement is said lands have gods of war so they can at least keep the title of the games consistent, whether or not Kratos is the main character or not.
Him vibing with Huitzilopochtli would be amazing, I bet he has a whole lotta trauma too, being literally born into a war between himself and all his brethren would definitely mess one up.
I think the idea of free dlc being roguelikes is pretty genius. The genre relying on redoing stuff makes it easy to create a long narrative with minimal assets.
@@GeekyDolphin46short? Maybe if you stop playing on easy mode then it will take you longer. I played on Show Me Mastery and it took me a whole week to fully complete it. Playing for like 4-7 h a day. When all the enemies have more health and hit harder to the point where it’s a one shot once you reach the upper realms… it does take considerably longer as you have to grind more and more. And the story elements were fine. Don’t forget it was a FREE dlc; you didn’t need to download and play it. For a free additional side content update, it was a good length.
I think it’s beautiful that this story had the bravery to acknowledge the story of the older games, the older kratos, and their themes. And at the meta level telling the people who took the older games for granted “hey those games had depth too” which i have been feeling for months now so it’s gratifying to see it said here
One thing I hope everyone will notice is how Kratos walks out of Valhalla's gates. His axe on his shoulder. It is a call back to the shrine Faye drew over that Kratos found at the ending of the main story. He is revered and redeemed. He is the God of Hope.
I think that's what we call duality. Kratos is the god of war mainly, but that's such a broad concept, it can mean anything associated with war, both negative, and good. Just goes to show his role isn't just black and white, despite what Ares may have been
@ericlamb4501 I truly believe Kratos' story is meant as a sign that he is retiring as God of War. I believe Kratos' story will involve him retiring as God of War, and becoming exclusively a God of Peace/Hope.
that little stumble he does at 2:29:27 as he sat down, that made me tear up, here we see a man, a man who lost everything, a man who lost himself, but even then, climbed up the mountain again, not any other mountain, but the same mountain that put him down to its feet, as he sat he might have thought "do i deserve this?" which just makes me feel so damn proud of how far he had come, this character is very well written. one of a kind.
It’s a shame you don’t know how to use the spear. It’s incredibly strong. Arguably the best and definitely my favorite. Not only the best ranged weapon, but powerful up close to. It has the best stagger so you’re constantly interrupting enemy attacks. Making sure you use the melee attacks that impale spears allows you to repeatedly attack, attack, detonate, repeat and your enemies will constantly be reeling backwards. Then the siphon gives you so much status versatility and allows you to resist the status you siphoned.
I hated the spear too. Then I discovered elemental siphon and a whole world opened up to me. I love that damn thing. Also the boon that gives you a random elemental damage when you throw a spear in this mode is so beyond broken. Its how I beat tyr for the final time on the higher difficulties.
The spear has some of the most broken builds in the DLC too 😭 range attack buff + triangle attack buff + random element siphon after throwing spears + detonator’s might = melting enemies even on higher difficulties
Helios’ roast about Kratos having ash on his skin after burning himself is pretty f’d up. He didn’t meant Kratos’ own burnt skin, he meant the ashes of his wife and daughter. Like damn, Helios in this dlc makes Heimdal seem like a nice guy
@@fireking0531which is kinda weird, I get missing the rage and all but not liking the emotion is kinda funny since I believe these games are way more popular than the old ones were
@@cinemasurge1851the old games had Kratos show a lot of emotion too but the gameplay and main plot points showed more of the rage that was standing out more. The old ones are still just as good as the new ones but the new ones cater towards a newer generation of gamers and a more familiar approach to games. Old games were a lot more button mash than what we get now
Seán: "Its hard to lay yourself bare, to see yourself for who you really are instead of who you think you are.". Some brutal honesty and something people should do more often. Self reflection is the only way to grow out of your stuck self. Great video again about gaming and some advice. Thank you Seán.
Seán has mentioned previously that just because he doesn’t comment on every single little detail, that doesn’t mean he didn’t notice it. Just wanted to throw that out there.
The Spear in Valhalla is SOOOO underrated. Its abilities are insane. One ability gives you a random Elemental power to the next spear after you throw one, another gives you a storm of elemental around you when holding triangle while having siphoned some power. You can MOW DOWN enemies with spear builds in this. Then theres getting rid of your runic cooldown by mashing triangle with the blades. God this mode is awesome
I love how the ending of this depicts Kratos’s future as being unburdened by the chains of his past; both metaphorically and literally seeing as how his arms are free when he re-takes the throne
I love how Tyr selected his weapons based on different pantheons 1.The Greek Hoplite Spear and Shield 2.The Aztec Macahuitl 3.The Egyptian Khopesh 4.The Japanese O-dachi and it mirrors Kratos' weapons with symbolism 1.Draupnir and Faye's Shield (his present identity) 2.Blade of Olympus (his godhood) 3.The Chaos Blades (His past as God of War) 4. The Leviathan Axe ( his Future as God of Hope)
Ok, the first tidbit was just a nice set of fun facts, but comparing with the symbolism is a bit of a stretch. The Aztec big club is somehow similar to the blade of Olympus and symbolically representative of godhood? What are you on about?
@@SomeGuy-mt4hq I think the similarity with the Macuahuitl is because of the sheer size of the fuppin' thing, and it's the last weapon similarity to make between - The dual blades (BoC and khopeshes) - The ice-powered weapon (the Nodachi) - And the Spear and Shield (Spear and Shield) As for the Blade of Olympus, that one was used by Kratos in 2 (as a trick by Zeus) to absorb his godly powers as the God of War. It was wielded properly by Zeus, too, one of the biggest points of grievance for Kratos amongst all Greek gods. It's a pretty significant weapon for him due to the events in GOW 2 and 3. So i don't think the OP meant that the macuahuitl is directly representative of a similar journey for Týr-- the closest thing to sacrifice he's doing with it is running his blade along the teeth. Just that the macuahuitl is the most direct analogue for the Blade of Olympus within Kratos' arsenal.
I love that Tyr uses different weapons from other cultures. The first one was a macuahuitl from old Aztecs, and the second one was two Khopesh's from Egypt, and the last one, of course, is a Katana from Japan. It was super cool to me to see that
Aren't those the 3 lands we saw in the teasers, when people thought we'd be tracking Tyr down in the next 3 games? Nice callback to where Tyr travelled to
Well he did say he traveled a lot. I can imagine Tyr is actually a very well rounded god of war and being in general, just how Kratos now has a Norse axe, his old Greek blades, and the hybrid spear taking on the aspects of both cultures in how it looks and how it was made, as well as him learning through Valhalla that he needs to accept both people he is, the violent monster in his past he wants to leave behind and the father he's become
Can we talk about how cute it is that Kratos is mad at Mimir for saying he wouldn't be enough for Sigrun and rejecting her because of it? He's so supportive of the relationship his mad at the fact Mimir ruined it 😂😂
As for not being able to give her what she needs... to be perhaps needlessly crude about it, he's got lips and a tongue, and he's _notoriously_ good with them.
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that the way kratos is holding the axe after walking out of valhalla is for sure the mural that Angerboda painted. giant visions continuity is great.
@@lockekappa500 it’s done with Angrboda’s art style and pigments, Faye only used the golden paint and destroyed the original mural made of stone. Presumably Angrboda had that vision after kratos started going down the path of not wanting to kill thor.
@@zakstormcrow5912 Didn't Angrboda JUST find these though? Or has she been hiding them for so long. Seems odd that Angrboda would either A) Find these awhile ago and keep them from both Kratos and Atreus or B) JUST found them and had time to paint over his in a short period. So I dunno.
@@lockekappa500 I would argue that it’s a thing if she had the vision before Ragnarök but knew that if they saw it that it could change the outcome (because kratos always defies prophecy) so she kept it secret until he was already on the path to free the real Tyr and go to Valhalla since after Ragnarök that is fully unavoidable Edit: also she didn’t say she just found it she just said she had something to show them
@@zakstormcrow5912 Yeah, I actually forgot what she said, but regardless both options seem off considering the outcome. Like I said, if she hadn't told them, why would she keep Atreus' mothers panel away from him all this time? And how could Angrboda have found it in Midgard if she'd never left Ironwood until just now?
Honestly, the relationship they've built up between Kratos and Mimir over this DLC and both the games is amazing. Hearing Mimir reassure Kratos that he's better than his past is such a heartwarming thing, but Kratos saying "If anyone else disparaged you as you disparage yourself, I would wish to strike them with an axe" was one of my favorite moments out of the whole DLC.
I think he learned a lot from Atreus, he may trust his hands but I don’t think he trusts his words, that’s why with Atreus he only speaks briefly and about lessons he has learned with his hands, he doesn’t believe what he thinks matters, because his life has been in the hands of generals, than A God, and then the fates. While his journeys before may have allowed him to overcome fate, it only opened his circle wide enough for Fey to fit in. Atreus took leaps of faith in trusting people and opening a discourse with them that opened up possibilities of what life means for him. It’s a truly beautiful story of a man with a troubled past overcoming a world he can only really exist physically in, never mentally.
The fact that one of the few times you get to see honest to god fear on kratos' face was when mimir appeared in the cage before the burning. It would have been a similar reaction had Atreus appeared there instead. They are family.
helios saying “no one wants to hear that from you” is dope because kratos doesn’t want to be a monster, much less a god’s monster. god this writing is so good
I took it as meta commentary on people who say "the new Kratos is boring/soft, he should be more like the old games." Helios, being the manifestation of Kratos' worst beliefs about himself, is reinforcing that idea that Kratos cannot change and people don't want to hear Kratos being apologetic, for example. They kinda do this at the end too with the "You are more than that" line being a bit of commentary on people who say "OG Kratos had no character depth"; they refute both viewpoints quite well, I think.
And apparently God (the Abrahamaic one.) also exists in the GOW franchise, and in one of the games there was an Easter egg which showed some painting or drawing of the three wise men. That could mean Jesus is also in this, just imagine Kratos meeting Jesus lol
I like how Tyr said "It looks like you have better voices in your head." Nice little reference to him and Atreus promising to listen for each others voices when they're unsure. This game is so good. I'm sad they weren't allowed to make two games, it would've been so much nicer and given us more time with the characters. The game felt quite cramped story wise. Maybe Freyr would've had more impact too.
It would have benefitted from stretching it out, having a build up of Atreus potentially joining the Norse gods and having Kratos have to save him from a life of servitude I think would of been the better option. But most of the side characters fell flat for me other than Heimdall. That whole sequence was amazing.
Regardless of what they decide to do with the series, I NEED to see Forsetti, son of Heimdall, come back and be an absolute mega Kratos hater on the side of the bad guys. I think he'd be a real wild card of a villain, reminding of his mistakes in the Norse realm like how Apollo did here for the Greek realm.
@@AUG_Glowdepends on the mythos you read. Their natures change from roman and greece as well as their domains. Jupiter/zeus is believed to be more authoritarian and in control compared to zeus whom abuses power Athena/minerva was tamed and docile being removed from the seat as a goddess of war and looked at with a female reverence being arts and crafts. She was replaced by bellona a pure goddess of war in the romans eyes. Hades/Pluto whilst being the god of the underwold also is the god of gems and riches. Etc etc the only one that doesn’t really change is apollo who somehow keeps his name the same. Ares/mars being the biggest change as Mars isnt some guy who loves endless carnage but he is the god strategy and war. Known to ensure the safety and revered very importantly in the roman legions. Hera/juno also is more than just the queen of olympus but another strategic planner and guide with omens.
@@alanbrown901 You also have Apollo, you have Diana (instead of Artemis) (Why were they not there in game, i dunno), You have Bellona as the goddess of war. Bacchus (instead of Dionysus again not in GoW universe.... Why tho?)
Mythology/language trivia: 14:32 The valkyrie Sigrun put a curse on Dagr for killing Helgi (Sigrun's lover). Dagr did so to avenge the brothers Helgi killed when he invaded Granmar's kingdom, slaying anyone who opposed his relationship with Sigrun (because Sigrun's father had promised her to the son of king Granmar). 17:17 Aegir ("Ocean") and Ran ("Robber") are two giants (jötnar) who personify the sea, and have nine daughters who personify waves. They dwell in a hall located in the deepest depths of the ocean, known as Aegirheim (Ran's domain is shared with her husband Aegir). 28:29 "Miklimunnr" means "big, loud mouth" in Old Norse (ín some sagas, it refers to a monster or mythical creature with a large mouth). 31:57 "Pass muster" means "be accepted as adequate or satisfactory; be good enough". It came from military usage, where "muster" means "an assembly of military personnel for inspection". During muster, soldiers and their equipment were evaluated to see if they were fit for combat, so passing muster meant they met the required standards for service. 40:08 "Dreyra" means "to bleed" in Icelandic. 41:52 "Heimta" means "to get, fetch, bring home, bring back" in Icelandic (Týr said it right before summoning his weapon). 58:05 "Eldingar drepa" means "lightining strike(s)" in Old Norse (it's what Modi says right before summoning a lightning bolt). 1:13:21 "Oluf" is a Danish form of "Olaf", from the Old Norse "Óláfr", meaning "ancestor's remnant". "Nautson" means "son of Naut". 1:31:22 Those curved blades are Egyptian sickle-shaped swords called khopesh. 1:33:27 "Myrkr" means "dark, murky" in Old Norse. 1:40:56, 2:18:36, 2:24:32 In Greek mythology, Pandora ("all gifts") was the first mortal woman, upon whom the gods bestowed their gifts (including beauty, charm, and curiosity). She was created to punish humanity after Prometheus stole the gift of fire from the gods. Zeus gave presented Pandora with a sealed jar (a pithos, often mistakenly called "Pandora's box"), which she open due to her curiosity, and thus released all of the evils inside it on humanity. The only thing that still remained inside was hope, since the lid was closed before it could escape ("hope" here is an open-ended aspect of the myth, since it's not even clear if it's a good or bad thing). 1:42:30 In Greek mythology, Minos was one of three judges of the dead (along with Rhadamanthus and Aeacus), giving the third and final vote. In life, Minos was a king of Crete and the proprietor of the labyrinth, which was designed by Daedalus to imprison the Minotaur (a half-man, half-bull creature born from Minos's wife's infidelity with a bull sent by Poseidon). 1:46:25 Draupnir was the self-replicating gold ring owned by Odin, and forged by the dwarven brothers Brokkr and Sindri. 1:54:02 "Þrymja Svipan" means "thunder swing/sweep" in Old Norse (referring to Magni's sword attack). 2:17:00 "Um-huxan" means "reflection" in Old Norse (Týr says it right before making a copy of himself).
I never played the old GOW games as I was too young but I followed the story and seeing him see his young self and confronting his young self ment so much to me and seeing his redemption come full circle ment the work to see and seeing everyone experience that journey means the world to me. And I never felt related to him but understood him and as I've lived my life I've ment people like him in my own way and use krato's journey helped me guide people means more than me than people can ever understand me for
39:46 that weapon is a “MacuahuitI” it was used by mesoamerican societies like the Aztecs, Toltecs, and Mayans, it’s sides are fitted with sharpened obsidian rocks to help it cut. The weapon was also used by the Mayan god of war Buluc Chabtan, which explains why tyr is using it in the fight.
@@dawsonhughjohnmcqueen1801actually yea wait that just gave me an idea; what if Atreus is exploring new lands and ends up near the Aztecs and their “friends”, but the whole area is riddled with chaos/war/potential invasions via a different pantheon that views the Aztecs as inferior/undeserving. Atreus arrives at a rather pivotal moment and gets captured. Since it’s the Aztecs, they might learn who/what Atreus is and might try to sacrifice him so that peace comes back to their lands. Then in comes kratos-
@@frostytheiceberg1127 Wonder which sun and/or war and/or jaguar god he got that from. Cause there is a common archetype in the various gods of mesoamerican pantheons but each civilization had their own version sort of
3:26 "Well, if i had to guess-probably to make you feel like the piece of shit you are!" Had me laughing my ass off holy shit! Love the Helios Actor! Really brings out the character!
This DLC is great and I love the layers it has to it. It feels not only Kratos accepting and loving his past self but an acknowledgment to the fans from the developers as well who have been around for so long. These new games sometimes felt they were ashamed of the old ones but this is a love letter to those games basically saying "we loved those games, and we've always loved Kratos. But we're just different now." As a longtime fan I feel vindicated for this new era for GOW. Can't wait to see what comes next
These newer god of war hands are some of the most beautifully written peices of media I've seen, they both get the adrenaline running and bring a tear to my eye. Maybe I'm just old now 😅
This is not about forgiveness. Tyr himself says it’s about accepting the past and moving on to become better. Most of the things kratos did are unforgivable imo which is why he’s been hard on himself these two games, but now he has come to finally move on from those
I have watched your play throughs of GOW 2018, Ragnarock, and this. I will gladly watch you play the next God of War game, when ever it releases. Thank you for making these play throughs, they’ve always been amazing to watch.
I can't believe Tyr tricked Kratos into going to therapy. The ending deadass made me super emotional because of the “You are more than that.” I just really needed to hear that. Thank you, Kratos. Christopher Judge's performance in this was amazing. Like, this really brings up the bar of what a DLC is and should be.
@@pancakes8670 exactly! I just hope this doesn’t turn into a “Santa Monica fixed the past games” when there is so much deep character progression if you don’t just turn your brain off during the cutscenes.
I think a lot of people write it off cause the old games didn't focus enough on that complexity. A LOT of time was spent on viewing the violence and depravity he committed during his path through Greece using a glorifying lens, or glorifying gaze. And honestly, Kratos was apparently powerful enough that nothing could have stopped him long enough to make him question himself - at least not until it very abruptly started happening halfway through game three of what was, at the time, three games - when Pandora was introduced (though this only talking mainline games not 3DS games, etc). In 1 and 2 especially, pain that happened to Kratos was seemingly framed as a way to enable more violence and depravity. Those old games made it very easy for anyone who didn't care to find Kratos' complexities to ignore them, and for anyone who didn't like the games to miss them. Anyone who liked and cared about the game would see them. I guess I'm saying I don't necessarily blame people for missing it and for mistaking Kratos for an unfeeling ragemonkey.
those swords Tyr was using are called Khopesh's (Co-Pesh) its seen as typically an egyptian sword despite a few neighboring countries using it too but egypt used it more frequently which is why they're seen as its primary users so its a reference to the old concept story of Kratos going to egypt from what could've been what we got for god of war 2018 that got featured in a comic prior to that, it could still be what the next god of war game is tho
I do find it hilarious that while Kratos and Mimir are going through this intense therapy loop of life and death, they're casually discussing Mimir's love life, with Kratos expressing disappointment with how his 'brother' fumbled the bag due to self-doubt.
I just finished watching all of the God of War playthroughs by Sean for the first time, all the way through up until here. And wow. I want to tell him how much it meant to me to watch him play all of them and to react and encourage Kratos' growth as a fan of the old games, which i never played. I am not a huge fan of playing this type of combat but loved to watch Sean do it and experience the stories alongside him. it's incredible to see a beloved, bearded man grow into a person who I can trust to always be striving for better. Sean just keeps improving with time, thank you for being a good man, sir.
Seeing Post-Boy Kratos next to Kill Everyone Kratos made me really see just how faded the red streaks on his skin have become. Hadn't noticed just how much less red they are now, and I like that symbolism.
Same saying goes for Kratos' ashed skin too, it looks more faded compared to Younger Kratos; So if the devs ever make another GOW game and he's with his natural skin color, I would cry nonstop 😭💙
I was thinking that in 4 "does he renew the cultural and very important markings on himself?" Clearly not, which is a little sad because it means our B O Y is fading away as well
Its not just to symbolise how far he has come but also how long it has taken him because it is a tattoo and tattoos take long to fade for regular people so for a deity it mustve taken very long
It would be interesting to see the Roman pantheon sort-of fill the niche of the empty Greek pantheon, being sort of the same but different could be explained by their essence trying to reform in the void left over.
I love Kratos’ development in Ragnarok. The fact he is interested and even giving advice and compliments to Mimir is so nice and such a turn around for what he was back in the old games and they did it so well too
I would love to see atreus find our about calliope, he still doesnt know. So imagine a next game, kratos does the whole 'go to other cultures to help them with their issues' but we play as atreaus going to find him for xyz reason. Kratos is in egypt, so atreaus has to treck through the ruins of Greece and see first hand what kratos has done, what his story is. We know that kratos has told him stories, but i have a sneaking suspicion they held out on how much atreaus knows for a reason.. idk ive really come to love this series
When first heard the, “You are more than that.” line I genuinely felt like that was the devs screaming at our faces, “HEY DIPSHIT’S! KRATOS IS MORE THAN JUST A GOD KILLING PSYCHOPATH! HE’S ALWAYS HAD MORE TO HIS CHARACTER!” as a sort of response to all the people who complained that Kratos didn’t go all GOW 3 on the Norse pantheon.
@@tomevans2499yeah people complained that Kratos was getting depth in 2018. They would state that this was character assassination and wasn’t our kratos. Which is dumb
@@spoiledsalad1851 oh, okay, yeah. The character assassination angle I can see. If only they would have had a bit more patience and actually watched the game before deciding on that take...
I can't believe Tyr tricked Kratos into going to therapy
If anyone could've tricked him into it, I'm glad it happened to be Tyr. Guidance God of War to another God of War really held a lot of weight
Well atleast it wasnt marriage therapy
'Tis the only way to convince certain people.
Believe me i'd know...
Truly a horrible action by the norse god of war...
@@kahuugaming5935the one having marriage therapy is Mimir LMAO
They didn't just give us free dlc, they gave Kratos free therapy.
SoCiaLIsts!!!!
I don't know if I'd consider fighting yourself through a horde of monsters while dying over and over again "free".
Honestly that sounds like really nice therapy@@DuViPo
Kratos free therapy was sick😂😂😂
Idk @@DuViPo , sounds like exactly what a man needs out of therapy
A little bit of venting his emotions out physically, with the added relief of success from having to work for it through some trial and error
It's a shame Jack did not notice that you could choose to play as young Kratos once you finish the Valhalla story. Would have liked to see his reaction to that.
You can? Not just the armour set?
@klenstdp1737 if you press L3 in the touchpad menu you can actually play with the young kratos character model
I thought it was a mod
@@ceejabbz thanks
To be fair, dad Kratos is way better.
The ending deadass made me super emotional because of the “You are more than that.” I just really needed to hear that.
Thank you, Kratos.
Yeah.. me too, I didnt know I needed Kratos of all people to tell me I am more than others tell me I am. Thank you, God of War
@@sameeahmad6592 why are you being a prick? The person did nothing to you
I can say it really broke past an emotional barrier... But God of War is good for that. It truly hits deeper than any other game.
@@mowbrizzle922 Fr man I don’t know any other game that can make someone feel emotional not from a character’s death but instead a character’s growth.
I honestly thought i was alone. We are more than that guys. And knowing that you all feel the same. It really makes me feel connected
SEAN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR YOU !! there actually is MORE story in the game that’s actually kinda important if you keep playing ,, the story doesn’t stop there just bc he overcomes his past , it continues because now that kratos has done what he has to do in his valhalla mimir now needs to do the same in his , i highly recommend making another part for that as there’s also another ending afterwards and finally PRESS R3 IN THE APPEARANCE MENU YOU CRIMINAL
He completely skipped over the classic appearance and I could just cry...
@jacksepticeye 💀
Please see this Sean
Could we possibly see a memory of Callope?!😮
@jacksepticeye
Kratos going to Týrapy is just so hilarious I can't😂
Holy shit, how have more people not caught on to that joke?!
An extraordinary bit of wordplay, thank you!
Okie that was a gud joke.
@@DaMemeSausage that was a guð joke you mean?
God of joking
@@thegamingsaiyan637 what does that make you...
A god of Comedy...
"Another weapon? That's cheating!"
Says the man with 3 main weapons, busts out magic swords constantly, and carries around the head of the smartest man alive like an I Phone that can't call people
Brooooo frrr frrrr😂😂😂😂😂
And let's not forget this is his older self, his younger self carried way more than just his blades 😂
If you connect him to Bifrost
(WiFi calling)
I love how Jack is always like, “Are we gonna go back to Greece? Are we gonna get more Greek stuff?” Then when he gets more Greek stuff (the appearance and armor) he doesn’t even use it.
He said he doesn't care for cosmetics. He's just in it for the environment, enemies, and Helios
@@SolarBrain4128 the people who make his videos worth the time it takes to make them care
@@SolarBrain4128 that... Doesnt change the fact he got what he asked for and didn't use it
@@SolarBrain4128I think the issue was moreso that he just didn't know what it was. I dont think it specified that it was "Greek stuff" or anything
He means going back to the crater filled with dead bodies that Kratos caused to implode because there's no Gods to keep it stable anymore
(possibly full of Romans now because he left a bunch of God power there)
I just love the fact that Kratos is writing to Atreus in his journal
AaAAAAA THAT MAKES THE WAY HE WROTE ABOUT HELIOS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE
Kratos has some of the most insane Dad lore out there
It's not dad lore, it's dad Myth.
He is, indeed, The Dad
God of Dad
god of boy
@@xptaco2298
Dad of boy
😂😂😂😂😂
The entire series was Kratos learning to accept who his son was and who he was going to be. But we never saw Kratos accept who he was and what he is going to do. And this extra story here brought a tear to my eye. Our boy has finally grown into the god he was meant to be. :')
The god of Hope
Omg same
Brought a Tyr to my eye too
@@Design909.definitely
He can finally become the god Angrboda saw him becoming.
I love that Tyr pretty much exclusively compliments people. Even went as far as to compliment Kratos' beard
Right?? He gives Kratos a compliment about his beard MID-FIGHT and that threw me completely off guard
@@adityavimal4145I feel like that's why he did it. Catch Kratos off guard.
Where was the part, cause for the life of me I can't find it
@@xXShy-ShyXx I believe it was the last time jack fought tyr
If there's anything I'm happy about in this DLC, it's us getting to actually see Tyr, and not Odin's bastardized version of him. Especially with him talking to Kratos as an equal, both being Gods of War. An incredible decision
You can see the real Tyr in the original game too?
Yeah, but it's not the same. Here we were able to interact with him and see some of his abilities and knowledge as the former God of War.
We saw him at the end of last game's campaign, but it was an optional encounter that many people missed and where we weren't able to fully appreciate his character (other than finding him doing yoga)
@@xcor3103 Fair I suppose. I look at it as two sides of a coin. Peace and unity is as important to Tyr's character as being a world-trotting warrior. Personally I think encountering him around the realms was just as meaningful, in its own way.
@@MedSurg420 I meant that we get to see more of him than just those encounters around the realms in the postgame. Both are extremely important, but Tyr takes a much more active role in the story here, as opposed to being a missable character in the base game
I completely forgot Odin was acting as Tyr and this was the real Tyr, the difference in behavior is so cool now that I have noticed it!
Christopher Judge's performance in this was PHENOMENAL. it's difficult to portray the kind of internal conflict Kratos has, and Judge did it FLAWLESSLY.
That pause and facial expression the moment he sits on the throne, the realisation flowing through him of how far he's come, is nothing short of incredible
I have a strong feeling that Christopher Judge has gone through similar internal conflict in his life and probably drew on that
Thank you!! I was looking for this comment and couldn’t find anyone else praising Judge’s performance- his characterization of Kratos throughout the series has been amazing, but he took it to another level in this DLC- man did *not* have to go so hard with the throne monologue lmaoo
indeed
second game award for voice acting incoming
just for those who might not know, the notebook is written by Kratos for Atreus, therefore the way he refers to the reader like he is addressing them personally
bro why am i getting so many likes? this was mentioned in the video in a part i hadn't seen till after posting this
Comparatively?
You have no likes
For a comment about LORE?
You're rich
Simmin innit
(you see how you have no extra money from UA-cam likes?)
Tyr complementing Kratos' beard mid fight is the funniest thing Iv'e seen in a while
Tyr's weird sword from a "far-off-land" appears to be a macuahuitl, an Aztec weapon that was essentially a club/sword with obsidian blades embedded along the edges. They were metal AF and deserve more widespread recognition.
I think it's gonna send Kratos around Europe like they tried to do with JoJo
So depending on where the Aztec culture was most prevalent he MIGHT be going there
But I think he's going to Ireland next if anyone picks the IP up again
Where do YOU think he's gonna go
Ah, I guessed it was either aztec or mayan. I'd fucking love for them to go to some native american mythology. I feel like those don't get enough love, even though they're SO fucking cool!
@@AxiEisa Originally, God of War 2018 was supposed to be in Egypt if I recall correctly. They might circle back around to that idea next section of GoW and we can see some Egyptian Deity slaughter, lol.
I say next section because they’ll possibly make another Norse game, idk
@@guts60 given the DLC of Kratos trying to work through his problems. How would they orchestrate that it could be a situation of the Egyptian gods don’t want Kratos in Egypt but it feels like they’re trying to work in Kratos settling in Norse mythology. it could be Aetraces quest next that would be cool, but I don’t know how many fans would return for that
Sure is, cool for them to connect a blood sacrifice attack to it
I love how this whole DLC is basically a therapy session for Kratos
I mean given the crap he has been through....it was overdue.
@@tehchief thats a killer movie title
he did say battle clears his mind
@@tehchiefcould make a banger game out of that title
And it's free
I absolutely love this take on Valhalla, it's accurate to mythology in that it's an endless training ground for fallen warriors to master themselves (normally training for Ragnarök)
But I love the idea that along with the physical training it focuses on mastery of the self and the final battlefield being the mind. It's just a beautiful way of incorporating therapy into God of War that's perfect for Kratos, it's almost a concentrated solution of the journey Kratos has been on since 2018.
Not me tearing up at Kratos’ monologue at the end 😂 Christopher Judge is incredible
Odin made Tyr such a pushover when he was impersonating him. But this man's a monster. Complete mastery over weaponry from multiple pantheons. I can see now why he's the Norse God of War.
Seeing Tyr with the macuahuitl had me so hyped. If the games continue (maybe with the idea of Kratos having to go around as the new god of war preventing various pantheons’ end of the world events) I’d love to see him in the Aztec pantheon with that weapon and interacting with/seeing Quetzalcoatl, I think I’d lose my mind from the hype. Same with Egypt and him fighting Apophis
@@ChaosKing210Only requirement is said lands have gods of war so they can at least keep the title of the games consistent, whether or not Kratos is the main character or not.
Him vibing with Huitzilopochtli would be amazing, I bet he has a whole lotta trauma too, being literally born into a war between himself and all his brethren would definitely mess one up.
Christopher Judge's performance in this was amazing. Like, this really brings up the bar of what a DLC is and should be.
And on top of it all, it's free.
That's pretty insane.
I think the idea of free dlc being roguelikes is pretty genius. The genre relying on redoing stuff makes it easy to create a long narrative with minimal assets.
Not so sure I agree on this one. It's a great dlc but I wasn't expecting it to be so ...short...
@@GeekyDolphin46short? Maybe if you stop playing on easy mode then it will take you longer. I played on Show Me Mastery and it took me a whole week to fully complete it. Playing for like 4-7 h a day. When all the enemies have more health and hit harder to the point where it’s a one shot once you reach the upper realms… it does take considerably longer as you have to grind more and more. And the story elements were fine. Don’t forget it was a FREE dlc; you didn’t need to download and play it. For a free additional side content update, it was a good length.
@@Cazammaf it's a short dlc. This is a wall of text that I'm not reading
I think it’s beautiful that this story had the bravery to acknowledge the story of the older games, the older kratos, and their themes. And at the meta level telling the people who took the older games for granted “hey those games had depth too” which i have been feeling for months now so it’s gratifying to see it said here
Shame that even when the game blatantly tells that to players, they still somehow manage to call old Kratos a shallow, angry brute
@@Edski10It's young Kratos
The one we have here is Old Kratos
@@Zulkak1357 right, I meant "old" as in the old games, my bad
It makes it a thousand times funnier when you imagine Jack as just a guy that follows Kratos and keeps blabbing at him and mimir
Can't believe Sean missed Tyr complimenting Kratos's beard at 2:22:47
He was kind of busy...
Never noticed that either, good catch
I read this comment before it happened and still didn't manage to hear it
Well it IS a fantastic beard!
One thing I hope everyone will notice is how Kratos walks out of Valhalla's gates. His axe on his shoulder. It is a call back to the shrine Faye drew over that Kratos found at the ending of the main story. He is revered and redeemed. He is the God of Hope.
I think that's what we call duality. Kratos is the god of war mainly, but that's such a broad concept, it can mean anything associated with war, both negative, and good. Just goes to show his role isn't just black and white, despite what Ares may have been
@ericlamb4501 I truly believe Kratos' story is meant as a sign that he is retiring as God of War. I believe Kratos' story will involve him retiring as God of War, and becoming exclusively a God of Peace/Hope.
@@ericlamb4501the trophy for finishing the dlc is called "God of Hope" fyi
that little stumble he does at 2:29:27 as he sat down, that made me tear up, here we see a man, a man who lost everything, a man who lost himself, but even then, climbed up the mountain again, not any other mountain, but the same mountain that put him down to its feet, as he sat he might have thought "do i deserve this?" which just makes me feel so damn proud of how far he had come, this character is very well written. one of a kind.
It’s a shame you don’t know how to use the spear. It’s incredibly strong. Arguably the best and definitely my favorite. Not only the best ranged weapon, but powerful up close to. It has the best stagger so you’re constantly interrupting enemy attacks. Making sure you use the melee attacks that impale spears allows you to repeatedly attack, attack, detonate, repeat and your enemies will constantly be reeling backwards. Then the siphon gives you so much status versatility and allows you to resist the status you siphoned.
Well, it's more like he forgot how to use it. It has been months after all
I hated the spear too. Then I discovered elemental siphon and a whole world opened up to me. I love that damn thing. Also the boon that gives you a random elemental damage when you throw a spear in this mode is so beyond broken. Its how I beat tyr for the final time on the higher difficulties.
The spear has some of the most broken builds in the DLC too 😭 range attack buff + triangle attack buff + random element siphon after throwing spears + detonator’s might = melting enemies even on higher difficulties
The spear is my favorite, too. The fact that this was made specifically for him and is a spartan spear makes it even more cool.
@@Holmes1216 hell yeah! So much fun
Valkyrie : prove your mastery of many weapons to Valhalla
Sean : BLADES OF CHAOS WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I myself play consistently with all 3 weapons so it annoys me how he only chooses to use the blades for every single enemy 😂
I wouldn't switch weapons unless I was told to use the axe, blades or spear to cut tethers.
@@Romain-em3zz Not everyone plays the same way lol
@@Romain-em3zz Let the man enjoy his game
To be fair, if you choose carefully, the build that gives the mashing triangle more power for the blades is the best one in the entire dlc
Helios’ roast about Kratos having ash on his skin after burning himself is pretty f’d up. He didn’t meant Kratos’ own burnt skin, he meant the ashes of his wife and daughter. Like damn, Helios in this dlc makes Heimdal seem like a nice guy
Kratos did rip his head off his body so I would call it justified
But kratos also saved him….
@@dragonlord9957well, back then Helios wasn't such a prick, he was a pretty chill dude
@@shreyanshsingh379yeah, honestly i think anyone would act like a prick to the person who decapitated them. 😂
Remember, that's how Kratos thinks how Helios would talk to him. We are not yet sure about Helios himself
Would be amazing if they brought the OG voice actor for THAT scene, having them talk to each other would be nutworthy
He said he didn't like the more emotional direction they took the series in, so I cant imagine he'd wanna join in for straight up therapy lol
@@fireking0531no, that was the creator. The previous voice actor was fired. Pretty rough story
@@fireking0531which is kinda weird, I get missing the rage and all but not liking the emotion is kinda funny since I believe these games are way more popular than the old ones were
@@cinemasurge1851the old games had Kratos show a lot of emotion too but the gameplay and main plot points showed more of the rage that was standing out more. The old ones are still just as good as the new ones but the new ones cater towards a newer generation of gamers and a more familiar approach to games. Old games were a lot more button mash than what we get now
Seán: "Its hard to lay yourself bare, to see yourself for who you really are instead of who you think you are.". Some brutal honesty and something people should do more often. Self reflection is the only way to grow out of your stuck self. Great video again about gaming and some advice. Thank you Seán.
I'm surprised he didn't mention or notice that whenever Tyr pulls out a foreign weapon you hear a musical motif that represents it's homeland
I'm surprised you could hear anything over the screaming of battle.
@@bluelfsuma True.
Seán has mentioned previously that just because he doesn’t comment on every single little detail, that doesn’t mean he didn’t notice it.
Just wanted to throw that out there.
@@bluelfsuma I was already aware of the music before watching the the video
Having an Aztec Macuahuitl was a badass twist that I didn’t see Tyr doing. The blood orbs make sense with the weapon.
The fact he didn’t see that you can change appearance to young Kratos is criminal
Ikr I was so annoyed
frrr he didn't even check it out 😢
Same dude I was kinda pissed
@@yaboyrams9500 no he did use it in this episode did you even watch it whole thing
Same. I was so excited to see Sean go full boy mode
I really like the dynamic of Mimir and Sigrun’s relationship. It’s pretty much no different than the “Would you still love me if I was a worm” bit. 😂
God this hit me “you have always been more than what others saw” that permeates my whole life. Beautiful ending 😔😭
"i dont like cosmetics i like meaningful upgrades" increasing a character's drip stat is the most meaningful upgrade of all
God of war more like God of drip
Drip of war
Found the shallow person
@@j.2977what are you yappin about
@@j.2977calm down
The way Kratos said "well now I'm mad at you" sounded way to wholesome for me, it was like a child telling there parents bluntly that they are mad
It really shows how much he has changed.
Timestamp? It is a 2 hour video.
@@Anathema_009 It's 17:38
The Spear in Valhalla is SOOOO underrated. Its abilities are insane. One ability gives you a random Elemental power to the next spear after you throw one, another gives you a storm of elemental around you when holding triangle while having siphoned some power. You can MOW DOWN enemies with spear builds in this.
Then theres getting rid of your runic cooldown by mashing triangle with the blades. God this mode is awesome
Not to mention multiple boosts you can get for ranged attacks, and helheim letting you boost spear damage outright
I love how the ending of this depicts Kratos’s future as being unburdened by the chains of his past; both metaphorically and literally seeing as how his arms are free when he re-takes the throne
I love how Tyr selected his weapons
based on different pantheons
1.The Greek Hoplite Spear and Shield
2.The Aztec Macahuitl
3.The Egyptian Khopesh
4.The Japanese O-dachi
and it mirrors Kratos' weapons with symbolism
1.Draupnir and Faye's Shield (his present identity)
2.Blade of Olympus (his godhood)
3.The Chaos Blades (His past as God of War)
4. The Leviathan Axe ( his Future as God of Hope)
Interesting and nice attention to detail
The Hollister was a nearly exclusively spartan
Ok, the first tidbit was just a nice set of fun facts, but comparing with the symbolism is a bit of a stretch. The Aztec big club is somehow similar to the blade of Olympus and symbolically representative of godhood? What are you on about?
The spear and shield are Norse not Greek.
@@SomeGuy-mt4hq I think the similarity with the Macuahuitl is because of the sheer size of the fuppin' thing, and it's the last weapon similarity to make between
- The dual blades (BoC and khopeshes)
- The ice-powered weapon (the Nodachi)
- And the Spear and Shield (Spear and Shield)
As for the Blade of Olympus, that one was used by Kratos in 2 (as a trick by Zeus) to absorb his godly powers as the God of War. It was wielded properly by Zeus, too, one of the biggest points of grievance for Kratos amongst all Greek gods. It's a pretty significant weapon for him due to the events in GOW 2 and 3.
So i don't think the OP meant that the macuahuitl is directly representative of a similar journey for Týr-- the closest thing to sacrifice he's doing with it is running his blade along the teeth. Just that the macuahuitl is the most direct analogue for the Blade of Olympus within Kratos' arsenal.
I love that Tyr uses different weapons from other cultures. The first one was a macuahuitl from old Aztecs, and the second one was two Khopesh's from Egypt, and the last one, of course, is a Katana from Japan. It was super cool to me to see that
Aren't those the 3 lands we saw in the teasers, when people thought we'd be tracking Tyr down in the next 3 games? Nice callback to where Tyr travelled to
i think the last one was specifically a nodachi though it looks like a normal katana when its scaled to tyr
TYR IS HERE?!?!? I'M SO EXCITED
@@aistikasmursu9432 a lot of people nowadays just refer to all japanese swords as "katanas" when they dont know the specific one cause of anime
Well he did say he traveled a lot. I can imagine Tyr is actually a very well rounded god of war and being in general, just how Kratos now has a Norse axe, his old Greek blades, and the hybrid spear taking on the aspects of both cultures in how it looks and how it was made, as well as him learning through Valhalla that he needs to accept both people he is, the violent monster in his past he wants to leave behind and the father he's become
I know that Sean probably actually noticed the musical motiffs of different cultures' weapons that Tyr used but I'd love to hear him comment on it.
"And you're a bull so there's only one way you can be milked"💀
Can we talk about how cute it is that Kratos is mad at Mimir for saying he wouldn't be enough for Sigrun and rejecting her because of it? He's so supportive of the relationship his mad at the fact Mimir ruined it 😂😂
As for not being able to give her what she needs... to be perhaps needlessly crude about it, he's got lips and a tongue, and he's _notoriously_ good with them.
@@mithiwithiand he’s the most portable man in the world, literally put a little chair on Her back and they can go on dates in the sky
We're all dumbasses in the face of love I guess X)
@@mithiwithi how do you know that's what she meant to 🤨
Literally one of the best character development of kratos I have ever seen. 😂
KRATOS AND MIMIR BEING GOOD FRIENDS AND TALKING ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS MAKES ME SO HAPPY
Also I don’t know if you noticed but if you go to customize your armor you can press R3 for a really cool surprise after you mastered your therapy
I love that we finally get to see Tyr doing stuff to test Kratos, also how Tyr uses different weapons from different lands
Also, it's like tyr was brushung off rust from years of captivity. Kinad cool really.
Mimir:"I told her no"
Kratos:"NO MY FANFICTION!"
"You are my OTP, Mimir! You have to become canon."
😂😂😂😂😂
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that the way kratos is holding the axe after walking out of valhalla is for sure the mural that Angerboda painted. giant visions continuity is great.
I always assumed Faye did that.
@@lockekappa500 it’s done with Angrboda’s art style and pigments, Faye only used the golden paint and destroyed the original mural made of stone. Presumably Angrboda had that vision after kratos started going down the path of not wanting to kill thor.
@@zakstormcrow5912 Didn't Angrboda JUST find these though? Or has she been hiding them for so long. Seems odd that Angrboda would either A) Find these awhile ago and keep them from both Kratos and Atreus or B) JUST found them and had time to paint over his in a short period. So I dunno.
@@lockekappa500 I would argue that it’s a thing if she had the vision before Ragnarök but knew that if they saw it that it could change the outcome (because kratos always defies prophecy) so she kept it secret until he was already on the path to free the real Tyr and go to Valhalla since after Ragnarök that is fully unavoidable
Edit: also she didn’t say she just found it she just said she had something to show them
@@zakstormcrow5912 Yeah, I actually forgot what she said, but regardless both options seem off considering the outcome. Like I said, if she hadn't told them, why would she keep Atreus' mothers panel away from him all this time? And how could Angrboda have found it in Midgard if she'd never left Ironwood until just now?
I love Helios saying “I guess irony can have you when it earns you” calling back to Kratos’s talk with Atreus
Honestly, the relationship they've built up between Kratos and Mimir over this DLC and both the games is amazing. Hearing Mimir reassure Kratos that he's better than his past is such a heartwarming thing, but Kratos saying "If anyone else disparaged you as you disparage yourself, I would wish to strike them with an axe" was one of my favorite moments out of the whole DLC.
also when he said "Now *I* am mad at you" when Mimir was talking about Sigrun haha
@@coreysweetland7984That was wild to me, in the old games Kratos keep that all to himself and let his hands do the work
he calls him "brother" after the sword side quest in the main game, I love their dynamic and how they grow from 2018 to Ragnarök to Valhalla
I think he learned a lot from Atreus, he may trust his hands but I don’t think he trusts his words, that’s why with Atreus he only speaks briefly and about lessons he has learned with his hands, he doesn’t believe what he thinks matters, because his life has been in the hands of generals, than A God, and then the fates. While his journeys before may have allowed him to overcome fate, it only opened his circle wide enough for Fey to fit in. Atreus took leaps of faith in trusting people and opening a discourse with them that opened up possibilities of what life means for him. It’s a truly beautiful story of a man with a troubled past overcoming a world he can only really exist physically in, never mentally.
I love that kratos actually cares for mimir and takes the time to ask him about his life.
The fact that one of the few times you get to see honest to god fear on kratos' face was when mimir appeared in the cage before the burning. It would have been a similar reaction had Atreus appeared there instead. They are family.
Its honestly awesome to see how far kratos has gone. His character arc is so well done.
2:16:46
Tyr is doing what kratos has been doing (switching weapons)
Kratos saying “Now I am mad at you” to Mimir killed me 😭
helios saying “no one wants to hear that from you” is dope because kratos doesn’t want to be a monster, much less a god’s monster. god this writing is so good
I guess you can say they're gods of writing
I took it as meta commentary on people who say "the new Kratos is boring/soft, he should be more like the old games." Helios, being the manifestation of Kratos' worst beliefs about himself, is reinforcing that idea that Kratos cannot change and people don't want to hear Kratos being apologetic, for example.
They kinda do this at the end too with the "You are more than that" line being a bit of commentary on people who say "OG Kratos had no character depth"; they refute both viewpoints quite well, I think.
2:32:23 See yourself for what you are vs. What you think you are.
-Sean
Thank you for this.
I find it so halarious that jack said the axe is so 2018 when the blades are from nearly a decade ago.
2:22:49
I love how tyr realized how awesome kratos’s beard is and decided to comment on it in the middle of the fight , he’s just a cool dude
2:22:47
At 39:30 my jaw dropped when Tyr pulled out the Macuahuitl from the Aztec. I would love to see some of the gods from the Aztec or Maya pantheon.
He also procured Khopesh- a weapon of the Egyptian royal guard and a symbol of Horus. When will this dlc come???
I thought i was the only one that realized what he meantime
@@incognitoman3656 and also Osiris' scmitars
So it was an Aztec weapon, thanks for the info! Love learning more about mythology
And apparently God (the Abrahamaic one.) also exists in the GOW franchise, and in one of the games there was an Easter egg which showed some painting or drawing of the three wise men. That could mean Jesus is also in this, just imagine Kratos meeting Jesus lol
2:20:35 Now, THATS some samurai flutes “Welcome to the ‘arena’, Kratos” (also, Claymore/Greatsword : Fire, Spear/“Curved swords” : Thunder/lightning, Katana : Ice)
2:38:28 awe man!! I really wanted to see your reaction to classic appearance!
I like how Tyr said "It looks like you have better voices in your head."
Nice little reference to him and Atreus promising to listen for each others voices when they're unsure.
This game is so good. I'm sad they weren't allowed to make two games, it would've been so much nicer and given us more time with the characters. The game felt quite cramped story wise.
Maybe Freyr would've had more impact too.
It would have benefitted from stretching it out, having a build up of Atreus potentially joining the Norse gods and having Kratos have to save him from a life of servitude I think would of been the better option. But most of the side characters fell flat for me other than Heimdall. That whole sequence was amazing.
If only COVID hadn’t happened
I agree, but still crazy that they managed to push out ragnarök in just 4 years and even during covid, still an amazing game!
Regardless of what they decide to do with the series, I NEED to see Forsetti, son of Heimdall, come back and be an absolute mega Kratos hater on the side of the bad guys. I think he'd be a real wild card of a villain, reminding of his mistakes in the Norse realm like how Apollo did here for the Greek realm.
@@itwasidio1736 It's Helios not Apollo
If you keep playing through and get all the dialogue between Mimir, Kratos, and Tyr, you can get a secret ending with Sigrun
What’s that secret ending about?
@@mahadilyas5125 It wouldn't be a secret ending if we would tell you about it right
@@discountdisco2273 lol I mean I don’t really care if I know about it cuz I don’t have the game to play it right now
bait
@@kali_herureizait's real tho
I love how this rougelike dlc is more story than grinding and aggravation. it seems more inviting for ppl who aren't fans of the genre, like me
Not only is this dlc it’s a great way to tell newer players about the older games they might’ve not played
And a hint on where we could go in the future? All of tyrs weapons could be clues on where the next adventure lies
@@blabafush7008They were all from different cultures. They might actually be a sign of where we're *not* going next lol.
It’d be entertaining to see Kratos have a crisis as the Roman pantheon appears and is like “Holy shit they’re all back”
yeah they're literally the same so it would just be repetitive
@@AUG_Glowdepends on the mythos you read. Their natures change from roman and greece as well as their domains. Jupiter/zeus is believed to be more authoritarian and in control compared to zeus whom abuses power
Athena/minerva was tamed and docile being removed from the seat as a goddess of war and looked at with a female reverence being arts and crafts. She was replaced by bellona a pure goddess of war in the romans eyes. Hades/Pluto whilst being the god of the underwold also is the god of gems and riches. Etc etc the only one that doesn’t really change is apollo who somehow keeps his name the same. Ares/mars being the biggest change as Mars isnt some guy who loves endless carnage but he is the god strategy and war. Known to ensure the safety and revered very importantly in the roman legions. Hera/juno also is more than just the queen of olympus but another strategic planner and guide with omens.
@@alanbrown901 that’s very eye-opening, thank you for taking the time to type this out
Old Kratos : * Shows up *
Jupiter/Zeus : "... NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOO--
@@alanbrown901 You also have Apollo, you have Diana (instead of Artemis) (Why were they not there in game, i dunno), You have Bellona as the goddess of war. Bacchus (instead of Dionysus again not in GoW universe.... Why tho?)
"Great beard, by the way" that send me rolling, dear lord
Jack responding with "don't look at me with your beautiful bifrost eyes" also had me rolling
Mythology/language trivia:
14:32 The valkyrie Sigrun put a curse on Dagr for killing Helgi (Sigrun's lover). Dagr did so to avenge the brothers Helgi killed when he invaded Granmar's kingdom, slaying anyone who opposed his relationship with Sigrun (because Sigrun's father had promised her to the son of king Granmar).
17:17 Aegir ("Ocean") and Ran ("Robber") are two giants (jötnar) who personify the sea, and have nine daughters who personify waves. They dwell in a hall located in the deepest depths of the ocean, known as Aegirheim (Ran's domain is shared with her husband Aegir).
28:29 "Miklimunnr" means "big, loud mouth" in Old Norse (ín some sagas, it refers to a monster or mythical creature with a large mouth).
31:57 "Pass muster" means "be accepted as adequate or satisfactory; be good enough". It came from military usage, where "muster" means "an assembly of military personnel for inspection". During muster, soldiers and their equipment were evaluated to see if they were fit for combat, so passing muster meant they met the required standards for service.
40:08 "Dreyra" means "to bleed" in Icelandic.
41:52 "Heimta" means "to get, fetch, bring home, bring back" in Icelandic (Týr said it right before summoning his weapon).
58:05 "Eldingar drepa" means "lightining strike(s)" in Old Norse (it's what Modi says right before summoning a lightning bolt).
1:13:21 "Oluf" is a Danish form of "Olaf", from the Old Norse "Óláfr", meaning "ancestor's remnant". "Nautson" means "son of Naut".
1:31:22 Those curved blades are Egyptian sickle-shaped swords called khopesh.
1:33:27 "Myrkr" means "dark, murky" in Old Norse.
1:40:56, 2:18:36, 2:24:32 In Greek mythology, Pandora ("all gifts") was the first mortal woman, upon whom the gods bestowed their gifts (including beauty, charm, and curiosity). She was created to punish humanity after Prometheus stole the gift of fire from the gods. Zeus gave presented Pandora with a sealed jar (a pithos, often mistakenly called "Pandora's box"), which she open due to her curiosity, and thus released all of the evils inside it on humanity. The only thing that still remained inside was hope, since the lid was closed before it could escape ("hope" here is an open-ended aspect of the myth, since it's not even clear if it's a good or bad thing).
1:42:30 In Greek mythology, Minos was one of three judges of the dead (along with Rhadamanthus and Aeacus), giving the third and final vote. In life, Minos was a king of Crete and the proprietor of the labyrinth, which was designed by Daedalus to imprison the Minotaur (a half-man, half-bull creature born from Minos's wife's infidelity with a bull sent by Poseidon).
1:46:25 Draupnir was the self-replicating gold ring owned by Odin, and forged by the dwarven brothers Brokkr and Sindri.
1:54:02 "Þrymja Svipan" means "thunder swing/sweep" in Old Norse (referring to Magni's sword attack).
2:17:00 "Um-huxan" means "reflection" in Old Norse (Týr says it right before making a copy of himself).
I never played the old GOW games as I was too young but I followed the story and seeing him see his young self and confronting his young self ment so much to me and seeing his redemption come full circle ment the work to see and seeing everyone experience that journey means the world to me. And I never felt related to him but understood him and as I've lived my life I've ment people like him in my own way and use krato's journey helped me guide people means more than me than people can ever understand me for
39:46 that weapon is a “MacuahuitI” it was used by mesoamerican societies like the Aztecs, Toltecs, and Mayans, it’s sides are fitted with sharpened obsidian rocks to help it cut. The weapon was also used by the Mayan god of war Buluc Chabtan, which explains why tyr is using it in the fight.
Maybe that’s where Atreus ends up and kratos has to go save him from the Aztec gods
@@dawsonhughjohnmcqueen1801actually yea wait that just gave me an idea; what if Atreus is exploring new lands and ends up near the Aztecs and their “friends”, but the whole area is riddled with chaos/war/potential invasions via a different pantheon that views the Aztecs as inferior/undeserving. Atreus arrives at a rather pivotal moment and gets captured. Since it’s the Aztecs, they might learn who/what Atreus is and might try to sacrifice him so that peace comes back to their lands. Then in comes kratos-
Not only is it a macuahuitl, it's a two-handed version, which is apparently exceptionally rare to find intact!
And the Olmec
@@frostytheiceberg1127
Wonder which sun and/or war and/or jaguar god he got that from. Cause there is a common archetype in the various gods of mesoamerican pantheons but each civilization had their own version sort of
3:26 "Well, if i had to guess-probably to make you feel like the piece of shit you are!" Had me laughing my ass off holy shit! Love the Helios Actor! Really brings out the character!
Because he's the same guy?
I think?
AND THE WRITTING IS HALF OF IT
I NEED A CUP OF TEA
The guy so voiced breakdown in transformers war for cybertron
Crispin Freeman!
He's also the voice of Winston from Overwatch, if you can believe it
This DLC is great and I love the layers it has to it. It feels not only Kratos accepting and loving his past self but an acknowledgment to the fans from the developers as well who have been around for so long. These new games sometimes felt they were ashamed of the old ones but this is a love letter to those games basically saying "we loved those games, and we've always loved Kratos. But we're just different now." As a longtime fan I feel vindicated for this new era for GOW. Can't wait to see what comes next
A 2+ hour jacksepticeye video?!?
This is going to be good
Jack inspires me.. My parents said if i get 70K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Bros still watching
@@namantherockstarno
basically 3 hours lol
Nerd
An Aztec Macuahuitl, Egyptian Khopesh swords, and a Japanese katana. Týr certainly loved to travel and learn from other places.
its an japanese o-dachi
@@Alastor046so a fancier katana
@@shreyanshsingh379more like a great sword katana
BEAUTIFULLY written story, with some amazing performance of Judge
These newer god of war hands are some of the most beautifully written peices of media I've seen, they both get the adrenaline running and bring a tear to my eye. Maybe I'm just old now 😅
i love the fact you can see kratos forgiving himself visually through how his skin is getting less and less covered in ashes as the games go on
Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed
This is not about forgiveness. Tyr himself says it’s about accepting the past and moving on to become better. Most of the things kratos did are unforgivable imo which is why he’s been hard on himself these two games, but now he has come to finally move on from those
Not what's happening.
"Now *I* am mad at you."
God, the banter between Kratos and Mimir is so awesome.
I have watched your play throughs of GOW 2018, Ragnarock, and this. I will gladly watch you play the next God of War game, when ever it releases. Thank you for making these play throughs, they’ve always been amazing to watch.
I can't believe Tyr tricked Kratos into going to therapy. The ending deadass made me super emotional because of the “You are more than that.” I just really needed to hear that. Thank you, Kratos. Christopher Judge's performance in this was amazing. Like, this really brings up the bar of what a DLC is and should be.
I like that the devs addressed the brain dead notion that Pre-2018 Kratos wasn’t deep. That he was always a complex character with deep trauma.
They are clearly fans of God of War themselves. I think this is good, it shows that they actually love the older games and want to build upon them.
@@pancakes8670 exactly! I just hope this doesn’t turn into a “Santa Monica fixed the past games” when there is so much deep character progression if you don’t just turn your brain off during the cutscenes.
I think a lot of people write it off cause the old games didn't focus enough on that complexity. A LOT of time was spent on viewing the violence and depravity he committed during his path through Greece using a glorifying lens, or glorifying gaze. And honestly, Kratos was apparently powerful enough that nothing could have stopped him long enough to make him question himself - at least not until it very abruptly started happening halfway through game three of what was, at the time, three games - when Pandora was introduced (though this only talking mainline games not 3DS games, etc).
In 1 and 2 especially, pain that happened to Kratos was seemingly framed as a way to enable more violence and depravity. Those old games made it very easy for anyone who didn't care to find Kratos' complexities to ignore them, and for anyone who didn't like the games to miss them. Anyone who liked and cared about the game would see them.
I guess I'm saying I don't necessarily blame people for missing it and for mistaking Kratos for an unfeeling ragemonkey.
@@machiavelli33 that’s fair
16:44 i lost it when Seán just started telling everyone that spoke to shut up 😂
It's a skill, you could say.
those swords Tyr was using are called Khopesh's (Co-Pesh) its seen as typically an egyptian sword despite a few neighboring countries using it too but egypt used it more frequently which is why they're seen as its primary users
so its a reference to the old concept story of Kratos going to egypt from what could've been what we got for god of war 2018 that got featured in a comic prior to that, it could still be what the next god of war game is tho
Honestly I hope it’s an Aztec or Mayan themed game
Almost a 3-hour video, wow... I'm impressed, excited, and nervous about how many days it'll take me to watch it.
I do find it hilarious that while Kratos and Mimir are going through this intense therapy loop of life and death, they're casually discussing Mimir's love life, with Kratos expressing disappointment with how his 'brother' fumbled the bag due to self-doubt.
Kratos while fighting Týr : ... Wait a second. This isn't fighting ! This is therapy !
God Christopher judge put in a voice actor of the year performance right there. A modern day shakespeare monologue!
I just finished watching all of the God of War playthroughs by Sean for the first time, all the way through up until here. And wow. I want to tell him how much it meant to me to watch him play all of them and to react and encourage Kratos' growth as a fan of the old games, which i never played. I am not a huge fan of playing this type of combat but loved to watch Sean do it and experience the stories alongside him. it's incredible to see a beloved, bearded man grow into a person who I can trust to always be striving for better. Sean just keeps improving with time, thank you for being a good man, sir.
Imagine if you had to fist fight your therapist before they actually talked to you.
i dunno i feel like that could be very cathartic and therapeutic
What's funny is that, that's basically therapy in itself. But mentally 😭😭
wait. you guys don't??????
In therapy, my therapist fists me.
Yeah I tried that, my therapist called the police
Seeing Post-Boy Kratos next to Kill Everyone Kratos made me really see just how faded the red streaks on his skin have become. Hadn't noticed just how much less red they are now, and I like that symbolism.
Same saying goes for Kratos' ashed skin too, it looks more faded compared to Younger Kratos; So if the devs ever make another GOW game and he's with his natural skin color, I would cry nonstop 😭💙
I was thinking that in 4
"does he renew the cultural and very important markings on himself?"
Clearly not, which is a little sad because it means our B O Y is fading away as well
Its not just to symbolise how far he has come but also how long it has taken him because it is a tattoo and tattoos take long to fade for regular people so for a deity it mustve taken very long
It would be interesting to see the Roman pantheon sort-of fill the niche of the empty Greek pantheon, being sort of the same but different could be explained by their essence trying to reform in the void left over.
What an absolutely amazing add on to an already stellar story
I love Kratos’ development in Ragnarok. The fact he is interested and even giving advice and compliments to Mimir is so nice and such a turn around for what he was back in the old games and they did it so well too
This DLC was the best therapy session Kratos could have
I would love to see atreus find our about calliope, he still doesnt know. So imagine a next game, kratos does the whole 'go to other cultures to help them with their issues' but we play as atreaus going to find him for xyz reason. Kratos is in egypt, so atreaus has to treck through the ruins of Greece and see first hand what kratos has done, what his story is. We know that kratos has told him stories, but i have a sneaking suspicion they held out on how much atreaus knows for a reason.. idk ive really come to love this series
FOR SEAN... if you go back to the cosmetics there is a classic appearance and classic armor I would've loved to see your reaction to that
Seeing how much Kratos cares for mimir now. We've come a long way from him just being called "head"
Now he just saves that for the mental projection of Helios
When first heard the, “You are more than that.” line I genuinely felt like that was the devs screaming at our faces, “HEY DIPSHIT’S! KRATOS IS MORE THAN JUST A GOD KILLING PSYCHOPATH! HE’S ALWAYS HAD MORE TO HIS CHARACTER!” as a sort of response to all the people who complained that Kratos didn’t go all GOW 3 on the Norse pantheon.
Did anyone really complain about that?
@@tomevans2499 I vaguely remember it.
@@aussiemerican750 man, that's a bummer. I loved that he was repentant.
@@tomevans2499yeah people complained that Kratos was getting depth in 2018. They would state that this was character assassination and wasn’t our kratos. Which is dumb
@@spoiledsalad1851 oh, okay, yeah. The character assassination angle I can see. If only they would have had a bit more patience and actually watched the game before deciding on that take...