I just saw this video 1-4-24. Probably the best explanation and demonstrated videos I've seen on this subject. And it was short and to the point. Thanks. 👍
Setting throw ball the day before sold me on this method...I was trying to figure out how to set my rope 30 minutes to an hour before sun up. Thanks dude.
Small suggestion. When I SRT, I tie a running bowline around the rope and leave enough extra rope on the running end so that when you pull the girth hitch up, there's enough rope coming off the bowline to retrieve the rope. For us guys that are forgetful, it's one less thing to remember. Great video!!!
Don't understand what is different than what he did other than the tying method. is it a second rope? I use 75' and put an alpine butterfly 25 feet or so and pull that up. so I can go as high as 25 feet. This method requires 3x rope length the maximum height you can go. I used to tie a 25' long paracord on to retrieve but I found it took too long to recoil it. If I didn't it got knotted up. The bulk and weight of the extra 25' of 9mm sterling was worth it, and really not bulky or heavy at all.
Petzl left hand ascender Sterling 9mm HTP rope - 50 feet Arborist throw line and throw bag Mad rock safeguard or lifeguard or petzl grigri Petzl foot tape one step aider
@@teamcrooks6913 I think the grigri releases the smoothest. But its bigger and louder. The madrock stuff works well with practice and is silent and small
Just found this video. Fixing to get into saddle hunting and this seems like a quite, cleaner and better way to climb as apposed to tree gaffs or climbing sticks /bolts. Will definitely be giving this a try! Awesome video!
Thank you sir!! I’m definitely switching to a saddle w/ SRT from now on. Lightweight and stealthy. I was a little hesitant at first, Initially gonna use screw in steps but I’d rather avoid that. Keep pumping those vidgas. Subscribed🤙
One of the best I've seen on this subject, SRT with one line! Thank you!!! Tip for you: if you have not tried to hunt with the "Mini" from Hickory Creek Archery, you should give it a go. And no I do not work for Jerry the owner but his bow is unparalleled IMHO. Best your way!
Same here, I'd just add that it's a good practice to tie in to the rope below your ascenders periodically, at the very least once you reach desired height, just to back up the ascender. Though I guess you could argue the grigri is doing that. The typical bridge on a tree saddle makes me queasy too. Should be an equalized figure eight or similar in that thing in case one end of the bridge fails. Otherwise it's like those AAC Accidents in North America reports where one side of a rappel anchor fails with rope looped behind chains rather than through. 😬
I used a mad rock lifeguard for my belay device, a petzl left hand ascender, sterling htp rope, an aerohunter kestrel saddle, and I cant remember the brand of foot loop that is attached to the hand ascender but any of them will do.
Been saddle hunting for over 30 years but have used screw in tree steps or climbing sucks. Thanks for the info, I'm switching to SRT because it's alot safer and I'm 66 years old.
I looked at this method for public land hunting. You can use a pulley instead of biner to help with the pulling. Also, you can use a foot aider to counter the pull as well. I used a bag throw and it sucks. Doing it in the dark forget it, I would never trust the throw went in the v. Then you make more noise throwing the damn bag up. The easiest way is to use a climber/sticks for the tree for first hunt of season, then drop a cheap thin paracord from V to ground, climb down and tie off a circle (two ends of string at bottom of tree going through the v. ) Next hunt, bring the climbing rope and tie to the end of string and pull it up and through back to ground for grinch hitch at top v. Then, when hunt is over, climb down pull end of string still attach to gh loop to bing down climbing rope to unlock knot and then then pull other end of climbing rope. Tie string back up for next hunt. I will just leave my climbing rope attached to the tree for the season as well.
I'm thinking about doing this climbing method but then use a hang on stand. Right now I have 4 XOP sticks and they're heavy, noisy and generally a pain in the ass.
you could have installed the retrieval line and biner before ascending. it wouldn't be in the way to much and if you need to descend and retrieve before reaching the top you can do that.
Erik Rimes The retrieval line and biner aren’t necessary at all. Put the hitch loop in the middle of the main rope instead of at the end. When you descend you have two ropes hanging. Pull the one you weren’t on. Down comes the hitch. 👍
@@ridermak4111 Yes, but that means you have to carry a rope twice as long. The point of a retrieval line is that it can be much lighter than the rope rated to support your weight. A retrieval line can weigh almost nothing so you can nearly cut the weight of your climbing rope in half.
Great video man. I'm going saddle hunting for the first time this year and I have some sticks, but this and the DRT are starting to look like an easier faster method!
Good work, you've used a Rad system// I use to clip a short lanyard directly to the hand ascender to have a redundancy ( specialty in big trees) Great video, I liked it. 🙋
My buddy is an arborist, he came over and showed me this system,I figured on public land trying to get up 20 ft. I might get there at dark and I would turn light and I might still be trying to get the throw line over a certain limb lol. You need to do a full set up and take down video so we can see setting up your platform and switching bridges ect....
No to do it properly you need to pick out a stationary limb no limbs under it as close to the tree as possible 6in diameter is a good rule of thumb do a weight bounce check after you tie in look up srt canopy anchors on you tube for a more in depth explanation
Great job and all your videos, I'm wondering if it would be easier if I had a rope ladder connected to the rope around the limb to my safety harness and then climb the rope ladder to pull me up I could connect a second carabiner from my safety harness to a ladder step to stop and rest. I've never tried it but I'm wondering if it would work. You're essentially doing the same thing with your climbing method
Great video! I have been using this system but with 2 prusiks and want to upgrade to the ascender plus madrock. I hear the safeguard is best for this application coz it sets onto the rope by itself. Please comment about this, and thanks.
You are absolutely correct. The safeguard is the non-spring version of the lifeguard. and auto-locks the climbing line when weight is put on it. Read about the differences on madrock.com. Hunt safely, my Friends!
anybody on the fence about this, its as easy as it looks and its seriously fun, just got my stuff and set it up and was climbing almost as good as him in no time at all
I was way out of practice when I made this video so it was almost like climbing for the first time. With practice you can be much smoother than I was here
Nice set-up I have a thought after your climbing line is up if you put an alpine butterfly knot on the rope with a lock gate you can eliminate the paracord . , Thumbs up,
it's true. but paracord is cheaper and lighter than climbing line and if you are at the limit of your rope for climb height it's not a bad option. you can also just tie the throw line on to the rope for retrieval as long as it is a high strength line. i don't know how high you guys go up but i rec climb and go over 70 feet regularly which is over 140 doubled over. if i was to carry 150 foot vs 100 foot of climbing rope that's a big weight difference in my pack. trade offs
I think this would be a great way for me to hang 3-4 stands for the early season. Get up there, hang them and then rappel down quickly leaving no sticks on the tree. Would also prevent thievery. Great video!
L.S. Pair that with Leaving a throw line (tied in a loop, with a small loop for attaching main rope.) in the tree and you’ve got a great system. Just show up. Tie into the throw line loop and haul your rope silently into place. I love this meathod!!! Great video too!
I don’t worry about being comfortable during the climb because it’s just a minute. I worry about being comfortable once I’m setup to hunt. But try to stay as upright as possible instead of leaning back while you climb
Nice Jamie. If you ever try a HAAS system, you'll get rid of the hand ascender. Much easier on the body and several times faster to ascend. Check it out and you'll never go back.
I've been climbing like this for years now and I love it. The problem is in the mornings if you don't have installed a paracord the day before. I use a telescopic shaft about 12 feet long to move the girth hitch up, then climb and put the tether on, lose the line and move it up to where you want it then climb. It's a little bit more work but it works in the dark with a head lamp. Happy hunting :) I also have a pair of japanese spurs that's very fast but they're not legal everywhere.
@@michaelz3522 Hi. I live in Sweden so I buy my stuff over here but I think you can find almost everything on eBay or amazon. Look for climbing gear at for example www.wesspur.com.
@@michaelz3522 I use a Grigri 2, I don't know what brand he has but it works similar. And there's camp druid www.camp.it/prodotti3.aspx?CAT=37&CDV=12&ART=~1691 www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Belay-devices-and-descenders/GRIGRI-2
I'm sorry, I'm not nearly active enough on UA-cam. I need to check the comments more. I used a mad rock lifeguard for my belay device, a petzl left hand ascender, sterling htp rope, an aerohunter kestrel saddle, and I cant remember the brand of foot loop that is attached to the hand ascender but any of them will do.
Picard 80 use a “static” rope that is rated for climbing. The other type of rope is “dynamic” and is stretchy (used in rock climbing). Check out Knot and Rope Supply’s website, they have an awesome rope called “Deep Woods”. It’s camo and is rated for over 6,000 pounds. I use it for my tether and lineman’s belt also.
I have the Madrock Safeguard (that I use when climbing using the one-stick method). Will my Madrock Safeguard work just as well for this SRT application as the Madrock Lifeguard that you show in this video?
I'm just starting to research saddle hunting, and this is my first time seeing SRT. What am I missing here? Why would anybody use climbing sticks when this much faster, lighter and more compact option is available? Someone help me out pls. Thanks in advance.
@@overwatchoutdoors910 just ordered my tethrd mantis, have decided if I'm going SRT or single stick method. Going to try both out in the yard and see what suits me best. If you can do a short video on the hitch that would be great! Thanks in advance.
What brand and style of caribiner are you using? Especially the one at the top of your hand ascender? I tried to use the wild country that came with my mantis saddle and it doesn’t seem to lay properly. It kinda gets hung up.
About how much rope do you need for this? Just a few feet longer than the hunting height your wanting to achieve? If you already have a tree pre set, about how long does it take you to get up and hunting between 18-20'? Thanks!
@@overwatchoutdoors910 on time Jamie I would figure in a preset it would take you about 8 min. to ascend the tree 20 ft. What do ya think. Is that a fair estimate. thanks again good video
True, but the mechanics are different and your scent is all the way up the line. The limb will have to hold twice your weight if you tie off at ground level. Jamie's paracord trick works. An alpine butterfly with enough tail to reach from ground level works like his girth hitch. Or, you could tie a piece of paracord to your figure eight on one end of your line, as long as your line, then you won't forget to clip it on! (Oops!). More'n one way to skin this cat. Hunt safely, my Friends!
About 200 for this setup minus rope and throw bag on Amazon. Mad Rock lifeguard and it had three frequent bought together. Belay device, foot sling and ascender
I am hope to use a rope climbing method when I get my saddle. I’ve been watching a ton of different videos and different methods. This one looks fairly easy. I also am looking at one call JRB climbing method have you looked at that one at all on the tub? If so what do you think of it?
I seen both your videos. The repel and climb. I notice you repelled 2 different ways. Do you just repel with the mad rock as shown In the climbing video or do you use the method in your other video. Thanks
I have tried this exact setup while using a Madrock Safeguard. How do you descend smoothly with the belay device? I can never do this smoothly and have to switch to an ATC w/ autoblock to descend. Any tips would be appreciated.
It is a fusion non locking oval carabiner. I like a slim non locking carabiner for that part of the system. It's easier to get through that little hole in the hand ascender.
Thx for sharing this- I’m new to saddle hunting and wondering if a ropeman ascender would work as well or be as solid as the grigri or mad rock lifeguard ? Would you please tell us what kind of saddle and the whole set up you are using Appreciate the help brother
It's an aero hunter kestrel saddle. You cant descend with a ropeman so the grigri or lifeguard is important. But you could use a ropeman to climb up and rappel device to get down.
Please list out the equipment used This is BADASS! I’ve been using wild edge stepps which I love but sometimes wish I had an extra 3 steps And the bag chokes me out I could store my SRT rope in the bag with my ascender and gri-gri Still have 18 days of hunting season it’s going to be hard to not try this before the end of January 😂
greg brightman You forgot the part about the alpine butterfly being tied in the middle of the rope instead of the end. When you descend you have two ropes hanging. Pull the one you weren’t on. 👍
I switch over to my normal tether or tree strap. The lifeguard or grigri can uncam when you take weight off of it so a friction knot on a tether is much safer
If you were to use an Alpine Butterfly instead of the girth hitch it would eliminate the need for your Lara cord and extra carabiner. Also, once less piece of rope blowing in the wind and/or getting in the way while lining up for a shot.
I'm totally new to SRT and climbing rope but trying to get a list of everything to make the switch....and understand it. How do you use an Alpine Butterfly to avoid the extra paracord/carabiner? Do you have double the amount of rope for the height so the Alpine is in the middle of the rope, leaving enough rope to pull the non-climbing side?
A lot saffer and easier method for setting your line is to make an alpine butterfky (midline knot) feed your tail end threw the AB and use the end of your rope to pull it down once your on the ground also a girth hitch takes away about 50% of your rope strength the AB is a lot stronger too only take away around 30% of rope strength and try putting a little pulley on your hand assender makes the mechanic advantage even smoother not saying anything is wrong with your method just some advise to make it even better
What is the red device in your right hand? Is it a PETZL - Verso, Ultralight Belay/Rappel Device or a Wild Country RopeMan MK2 Forged Ascender? Will one of these work?
Could it be an Outdoors Climbing Safety Rope Automatic Locking Device - Grasping Rope Device - Ascender Equipment Rock Climbing Protector ? found on amazon.
I dont know what that is but when it comes to climbing equipment I try to buy the best name brand stuff I can afford. You're trusting your life to this gear.
Great start on your video channel... Subscribed! I am fixing to move from out West where we spot and stalk hunt to Kentucky where I am going to need to get up in some trees. Really interested in the lightweight portability and all other positives of saddle hunting, and figure SRT is also the best and lightest way to get up there. Your videos are far some of the best I have found on SRT. QUESTION: What height do you typically hunt from, and what length of main rope would you use to accomplish that? 2x the height plus..?
I normally hunt between 20 and 30 feet depending on the setup. I use a 45 foot piece of sterling htp and dont have any problems. You need it to at least be long enough to touch the ground when you're climbing and rappeling down.
My question is how long does it take you to throw that rope up 20 ft at 4:30 in morning.. I'm not hating on this method actually been looking into this for a while just curious because I'm used to quick sticks and hang on which put me at roughly 20 lbs and takes approximately 10 to 15 mins to be in the tree 20 to 25 with camera gear
It's not bad. You get better at it the more you do it. 20 feet isnt very far to throw. But I try to go out and put a piece of paracord in place on the tree before i hunt there. That way when I do go in to hunt that tree all I have to do is pull my rope up into the tree with the paracord instead of throwing the throw bag and throw line.
Thanks for the video Jamie! I'm new to saddle hunting and was hoping you could tell me what kind of saddle you're using. It looks to have leg straps, which is great, as most of what I'm seeing people use on UA-cam are just sit drags, which seems a bit dangerous. I was going to use a sit drag in combination with my climbing harness, but may not need to do that if I can find something like what you're using. Thanks again!
One question. When you do this do you bring your bow/crossbow up with you or pull it up after with paracord? Same question with back pack. Thanks in advance!
Jamie, I'm really interested in trying the SRT method of climbing a tree. Once you reach hunting height, do you switch over to a tether and the longer bridge?
Looks really slick. Thanks for sharing your technique. How do you like the Kestrel saddle. I have another major brand and can not get it comfortable. Any regrets with the Kestrel?
Would it be stupid to hunt like this out of a stand? Just use this to get up tree and then hang hang on? I just don’t like the idea of saddle hunting, doesn’t sound like something I would want to do all day.
Okay now remake this video but add close up of your setup so peeps actually know what to do... This can be done with rope only.... No equipment needed if you can get your rope over the tree limb.... Otherwise all you need to add is a roll of construction twine tie a rock to the end to replace the throw bag.... I would use rope with equal length twine and a large fishing sinker.... Once the rope is over the limb and you have both ends tie an alpine seat into one end number 1 leaving a 6 foot tag end that you tie around the rope end 2 with a prusik or other friction knot..... Now you can loop rope 2 under your foot and back to itself below the prusik step lift the prusik then step again..... Just add one D ring (I use home depot bought steel threaded D ring) tie your friction knot preferably Bachman knot thru this and it becomes a very effective ascended........ This can also be used to rappel down.... But if you add couple more steel d rings you can create a block and tackle setup for lifting your kill to dress it..... This way you make double use.... Anyway look up Bachman knot and prusik.... Look up rope only drt tree climbing and you will see plenty of videos....
I just saw this video 1-4-24. Probably the best explanation and demonstrated videos I've seen on this subject. And it was short and to the point. Thanks. 👍
Setting throw ball the day before sold me on this method...I was trying to figure out how to set my rope 30 minutes to an hour before sun up. Thanks dude.
Finally ordered everything to do this today. Can't wait to try it! Thanks for the video. I've watched it like 10 times.
I believe this is the simplest & easiest way to climb to access my tree stand. Will practicing this before season starts.
Small suggestion. When I SRT, I tie a running bowline around the rope and leave enough extra rope on the running end so that when you pull the girth hitch up, there's enough rope coming off the bowline to retrieve the rope. For us guys that are forgetful, it's one less thing to remember. Great video!!!
Don't understand what is different than what he did other than the tying method. is it a second rope? I use 75' and put an alpine butterfly 25 feet or so and pull that up. so I can go as high as 25 feet. This method requires 3x rope length the maximum height you can go. I used to tie a 25' long paracord on to retrieve but I found it took too long to recoil it. If I didn't it got knotted up. The bulk and weight of the extra 25' of 9mm sterling was worth it, and really not bulky or heavy at all.
Can you please make a list of the equipment needed for this method
Petzl left hand ascender
Sterling 9mm HTP rope - 50 feet
Arborist throw line and throw bag
Mad rock safeguard or lifeguard or petzl grigri
Petzl foot tape one step aider
@@overwatchoutdoors910 Plus 3-4 screw lock carabiners and paracord. Really nice, understandable presentation. Thank you. Hunt safely, my Friends!
@@overwatchoutdoors910 Which device releases the most smoothly to descend? Thank you!
@@teamcrooks6913 I think the grigri releases the smoothest. But its bigger and louder. The madrock stuff works well with practice and is silent and small
Just found this video. Fixing to get into saddle hunting and this seems like a quite, cleaner and better way to climb as apposed to tree gaffs or climbing sticks /bolts. Will definitely be giving this a try! Awesome video!
Great video explaining how to SRT climb. Could you list your equipment, please? Thank you for doing this video.
Thank you sir!! I’m definitely switching to a saddle w/ SRT from now on. Lightweight and stealthy. I was a little hesitant at first, Initially gonna use screw in steps but I’d rather avoid that. Keep pumping those vidgas. Subscribed🤙
One of the best I've seen on this subject, SRT with one line! Thank you!!! Tip for you: if you have not tried to hunt with the "Mini" from Hickory Creek Archery, you should give it a go. And no I do not work for Jerry the owner but his bow is unparalleled IMHO. Best your way!
Very slick. Luckily I rock climb too so most of this gear I already have. Nice to see these skills are transferable.
Same here, I'd just add that it's a good practice to tie in to the rope below your ascenders periodically, at the very least once you reach desired height, just to back up the ascender. Though I guess you could argue the grigri is doing that.
The typical bridge on a tree saddle makes me queasy too. Should be an equalized figure eight or similar in that thing in case one end of the bridge fails. Otherwise it's like those AAC Accidents in North America reports where one side of a rappel anchor fails with rope looped behind chains rather than through. 😬
I used a mad rock lifeguard for my belay device, a petzl left hand ascender, sterling htp rope, an aerohunter kestrel saddle, and I cant remember the brand of foot loop that is attached to the hand ascender but any of them will do.
Been saddle hunting for over 30 years but have used screw in tree steps or climbing sucks. Thanks for the info, I'm switching to SRT because it's alot safer and I'm 66 years old.
I looked at this method for public land hunting. You can use a pulley instead of biner to help with the pulling. Also, you can use a foot aider to counter the pull as well. I used a bag throw and it sucks. Doing it in the dark forget it, I would never trust the throw went in the v. Then you make more noise throwing the damn bag up. The easiest way is to use a climber/sticks for the tree for first hunt of season, then drop a cheap thin paracord from V to ground, climb down and tie off a circle (two ends of string at bottom of tree going through the v. ) Next hunt, bring the climbing rope and tie to the end of string and pull it up and through back to ground for grinch hitch at top v. Then, when hunt is over, climb down pull end of string still attach to gh loop to bing down climbing rope to unlock knot and then then pull other end of climbing rope. Tie string back up for next hunt. I will just leave my climbing rope attached to the tree for the season as well.
I try to always pre set trees with paracord if possible. Takes the throwing in the dark out of the equation
Awesome vid bro, great explanation and demonstration
I'm thinking about doing this climbing method but then use a hang on stand. Right now I have 4 XOP sticks and they're heavy, noisy and generally a pain in the ass.
Dam finally a good video on how to do this thank you thats a lot of help well done
Thanks for the video how much rope do you need for SRT
you could have installed the retrieval line and biner before ascending. it wouldn't be in the way to much and if you need to descend and retrieve before reaching the top you can do that.
Erik Rimes
The retrieval line and biner aren’t necessary at all. Put the hitch loop in the middle of the main rope instead of at the end. When you descend you have two ropes hanging. Pull the one you weren’t on. Down comes the hitch. 👍
@@ridermak4111 Yes, but that means you have to carry a rope twice as long. The point of a retrieval line is that it can be much lighter than the rope rated to support your weight. A retrieval line can weigh almost nothing so you can nearly cut the weight of your climbing rope in half.
Great video man. I'm going saddle hunting for the first time this year and I have some sticks, but this and the DRT are starting to look like an easier faster method!
Def not lol 😊
Good work, you've used a Rad system// I use to clip a short lanyard directly to the hand ascender to have a redundancy ( specialty in big trees)
Great video, I liked it. 🙋
My buddy is an arborist, he came over and showed me this system,I figured on public land trying to get up 20 ft. I might get there at dark and I would turn light and I might still be trying to get the throw line over a certain limb lol. You need to do a full set up and take down video so we can see setting up your platform and switching bridges ect....
I'm definitely interested in a full detail video.
I'm interested as well!
Interested in seeing a full vid as well.
Where can I find more info about the equipment you are using, what size/style rope etc, what descender etc
I use Sterling 9mm htp rope and a madrock safeguard or lifeguard.
Dang it!! Some more gear to consider that I know I would totally enjoy!!
I like that method a lot. And it looks really safe. I’m giving this a shot.
Does the limb have to hold your weight or is the rope tightening around the main tree
The rope is around the trunk of the tree. The limb is just a way to get the rope into the tree
No to do it properly you need to pick out a stationary limb no limbs under it as close to the tree as possible 6in diameter is a good rule of thumb do a weight bounce check after you tie in look up srt canopy anchors on you tube for a more in depth explanation
Great job and all your videos, I'm wondering if it would be easier if I had a rope ladder connected to the rope around the limb to my safety harness and then climb the rope ladder to pull me up I could connect a second carabiner from my safety harness to a ladder step to stop and rest. I've never tried it but I'm wondering if it would work. You're essentially doing the same thing with your climbing method
Great video! I have been using this system but with 2 prusiks and want to upgrade to the ascender plus madrock. I hear the safeguard is best for this application coz it sets onto the rope by itself. Please comment about this, and thanks.
You are absolutely correct. The safeguard is the non-spring version of the lifeguard. and auto-locks the climbing line when weight is put on it. Read about the differences on madrock.com. Hunt safely, my Friends!
anybody on the fence about this, its as easy as it looks and its seriously fun, just got my stuff and set it up and was climbing almost as good as him in no time at all
I was way out of practice when I made this video so it was almost like climbing for the first time. With practice you can be much smoother than I was here
Nice set-up I have a thought after your climbing line is up if you put an alpine butterfly knot on the rope with a lock gate you can eliminate the paracord . , Thumbs up,
it's true. but paracord is cheaper and lighter than climbing line and if you are at the limit of your rope for climb height it's not a bad option. you can also just tie the throw line on to the rope for retrieval as long as it is a high strength line. i don't know how high you guys go up but i rec climb and go over 70 feet regularly which is over 140 doubled over. if i was to carry 150 foot vs 100 foot of climbing rope that's a big weight difference in my pack. trade offs
I think this would be a great way for me to hang 3-4 stands for the early season. Get up there, hang them and then rappel down quickly leaving no sticks on the tree. Would also prevent thievery. Great video!
L.S. Pair that with Leaving a throw line (tied in a loop, with a small loop for attaching main rope.) in the tree and you’ve got a great system. Just show up. Tie into the throw line loop and haul your rope silently into place. I love this meathod!!! Great video too!
Thieves bring sticks to steal your stand
Fishing arrow and reel works well too
What do you think of a prusik knot to tie into?
For an auto block or to hang from?
Curious your harness do you pull it up some because I just started the srt and I’m killing my back any suggestions?
I don’t worry about being comfortable during the climb because it’s just a minute. I worry about being comfortable once I’m setup to hunt. But try to stay as upright as possible instead of leaning back while you climb
@@overwatchoutdoors910 got it! Appreciate it!
Does a grigri work out in wet/snow conditions? I suppose you could back it up with a prusik
Yes it works pretty much the same in bad weather
So it’s safe to use just the madrock device to repel? Thanks and good video.
Nice Jamie. If you ever try a HAAS system, you'll get rid of the hand ascender. Much easier on the body and several times faster to ascend. Check it out and you'll never go back.
I used a haas and a rope wrench for a while but with the short distances you have to climb for hunting it was overkill
I've been climbing like this for years now and I love it. The problem is in the mornings if you don't have installed a paracord the day before. I use a telescopic shaft about 12 feet long to move the girth hitch up, then climb and put the tether on, lose the line and move it up to where you want it then climb. It's a little bit more work but it works in the dark with a head lamp. Happy hunting :) I also have a pair of japanese spurs that's very fast but they're not legal everywhere.
TJ Leonard where is the best place to buy the climbing gear he's using?
@@michaelz3522 Hi. I live in Sweden so I buy my stuff over here but I think you can find almost everything on eBay or amazon. Look for climbing gear at for example www.wesspur.com.
Thanks I found the left handed ascender and the foot loop but what did he call the other devise. Repeller?
@@michaelz3522 I use a Grigri 2, I don't know what brand he has but it works similar. And there's camp druid www.camp.it/prodotti3.aspx?CAT=37&CDV=12&ART=~1691
www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Belay-devices-and-descenders/GRIGRI-2
TJ Leonard thanks man that helps a lot
So do you use a separate line to tether or the single rope? In other words, no lineman, no tether rope, no sticks. Do you use a platform?
Also curious what caribiners I should get? This is my first time setup. I'm basically copying you. Thanks for sharing.
What type of rope is your short bridge, how long is it and are both ends connected by carabineers ??
Its is 9mm static rope. I have one end girth hitched and the other uses a carabiner
@@overwatchoutdoors910 thanks , also what is the length of the short bridge ?
It's around 12 inches long but it could be a different length for everybody. Just have to go with a length that fits you
Can you use your normal bridge length that works while hunting? Or do you need a shorter bridge for this to be effective?
You can use your normal bridge but it isnt as easy as with a short bridge
What's a good source for a kit?
Can you list all the materials you need to do this down in the description and a website that sells it?
I'm sorry, I'm not nearly active enough on UA-cam. I need to check the comments more. I used a mad rock lifeguard for my belay device, a petzl left hand ascender, sterling htp rope, an aerohunter kestrel saddle, and I cant remember the brand of foot loop that is attached to the hand ascender but any of them will do.
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@@overwatchoutdoors910 what size rope do you use? Or does matter
I use 9mm sterling htp but you can use any static rope as long as your equipment can use the size rope you've selected
Does it matter what leg goes in foot loop? My left leg/knee messed up couldn't hardly do it.
You can wear the knaider on either leg.
Nice video! You can also ascend with two prusik cords.
Excellent video. Thank you! What kind of ropes do you use for this and were do you buy them? Thks
Picard 80 use a “static” rope that is rated for climbing. The other type of rope is “dynamic” and is stretchy (used in rock climbing). Check out Knot and Rope Supply’s website, they have an awesome rope called “Deep Woods”. It’s camo and is rated for over 6,000 pounds. I use it for my tether and lineman’s belt also.
I have the Madrock Safeguard (that I use when climbing using the one-stick method). Will my Madrock Safeguard work just as well for this SRT application as the Madrock Lifeguard that you show in this video?
It will work just as well, maybe even better
Could you use a ropeman in place if the belay device ? I have several ropemans
You can but you cant come down with a ropeman. Just go up
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Could someone add link where buy these items in video please. Thank happy hunting!
Wait that ascension you make look too easy . A gri gri?? Fiddle block??
do you just hunt from your defender or do you set up a bridge and rope to the tree?
I switch over to a tether and longer bridge to hunt from
I'm just starting to research saddle hunting, and this is my first time seeing SRT. What am I missing here? Why would anybody use climbing sticks when this much faster, lighter and more compact option is available? Someone help me out pls. Thanks in advance.
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How many times use this rop
Heck I don’t know. I’m still using it. Rope will last a long time if you take care of it
What kind of rope are you using, and did the girth hitch come tied or did you tie it yourself?
It is 9mm sterling htp and I tied the girth hitch. It's really simple
@@overwatchoutdoors910 just ordered my tethrd mantis, have decided if I'm going SRT or single stick method. Going to try both out in the yard and see what suits me best. If you can do a short video on the hitch that would be great! Thanks in advance.
What brand and style of caribiner are you using? Especially the one at the top of your hand ascender? I tried to use the wild country that came with my mantis saddle and it doesn’t seem to lay properly. It kinda gets hung up.
How do you move your bridge off the SRT line onto your tree tether?
About how much rope do you need for this? Just a few feet longer than the hunting height your wanting to achieve? If you already have a tree pre set, about how long does it take you to get up and hunting between 18-20'? Thanks!
I use a 45 foot rope. It's better if you have twice your hunting height
@@overwatchoutdoors910 on time Jamie I would figure in a preset it would take you about 8 min. to ascend the tree 20 ft. What do ya think. Is that a fair estimate. thanks again good video
If you tie the end of the rope around the base of the tree instead of up by the branch, you can then untie and retrieve the line when on the ground
True, but the mechanics are different and your scent is all the way up the line. The limb will have to hold twice your weight if you tie off at ground level. Jamie's paracord trick works. An alpine butterfly with enough tail to reach from ground level works like his girth hitch. Or, you could tie a piece of paracord to your figure eight on one end of your line, as long as your line, then you won't forget to clip it on! (Oops!). More'n one way to skin this cat. Hunt safely, my Friends!
About 200 for this setup minus rope and throw bag on Amazon. Mad Rock lifeguard and it had three frequent bought together. Belay device, foot sling and ascender
I am hope to use a rope climbing method when I get my saddle. I’ve been watching a ton of different videos and different methods. This one looks fairly easy. I also am looking at one call JRB climbing method have you looked at that one at all on the tub? If so what do you think of it?
ok....thats just damned slick. no more friggin bullman steps
Have you tried the tethrd mantis saddle? If so, which one do you prefer?
Do you use any type of platform ??
Yes I use 5 ameristep strap on steps on one strap
Jamie what foot ladder did you use in this video and we’re can I buy one?
I cant remember the model of this one. I like the petzl foot tape I use now
I seen both your videos. The repel and climb. I notice you repelled 2 different ways. Do you just repel with the mad rock as shown In the climbing video or do you use the method in your other video. Thanks
It depends on if I srt climbed or used some other type of climbing system
Jamie, what loop did you use for your girth hitch?
It's a figure 8
I have tried this exact setup while using a Madrock Safeguard. How do you descend smoothly with the belay device? I can never do this smoothly and have to switch to an ATC w/ autoblock to descend. Any tips would be appreciated.
What type of carabiner is the one that you ran your tag in through? I tried using a Black Diamond Positron Screwgate did not work well.
It is a fusion non locking oval carabiner. I like a slim non locking carabiner for that part of the system. It's easier to get through that little hole in the hand ascender.
Once you're at hunting height, do you transition to a tether or just stay on your climbing line?
Can I use a non climbing rated carabiner to retrive the rope, how much force do you think gets put on it?
You could but the $1 carabiners dont last long. The best is an aluminum hammock carabiner. They last forever
@@overwatchoutdoors910 OR, go commando and just tie your paracord to the figure 8!
You could, instead of running your hitch up the tree, tie the rope to the base of tree. Like we do for SRT
I thought about that, but didn't want to leave scent
Thx for sharing this- I’m new to saddle hunting and wondering if a ropeman ascender would work as well or be as solid as the grigri or mad rock lifeguard ? Would you please tell us what kind of saddle and the whole set up you are using Appreciate the help brother
It's an aero hunter kestrel saddle. You cant descend with a ropeman so the grigri or lifeguard is important. But you could use a ropeman to climb up and rappel device to get down.
Ok other question how short is your bridge for climbing and the knots are ? For bridge
The short bridge is around 12 inches and I just used a couple figure 8 knots to make the loops on the ends
Here is a huge tip for preset's . They make a reflective paracord. If you use that, you'll see your tree from 50 yds away !
How are you overcoming setting a line in the dark?
he said he sets a paracord in the daylight before.
Dig it, thank you for the video. I’ll be doing this.
What size rope you using (yellow) rope
9mm sterling htp
And what knot you use on your rope
It's just a figure 8 girth hitch
Please list out the equipment used
This is BADASS!
I’ve been using wild edge stepps which I love but sometimes wish I had an extra 3 steps
And the bag chokes me out
I could store my SRT rope in the bag with my ascender and gri-gri
Still have 18 days of hunting season it’s going to be hard to not try this before the end of January 😂
if you use an alpine butterfly has your girth hitch no need for the paracord hooked to the hitch
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You forgot the part about the alpine butterfly being tied in the middle of the rope instead of the end. When you descend you have two ropes hanging. Pull the one you weren’t on. 👍
Do you hunt with the mad rock attached our do you switch to a tree strap once you get to hunting height?
I switch over to my normal tether or tree strap. The lifeguard or grigri can uncam when you take weight off of it so a friction knot on a tether is much safer
@@overwatchoutdoors910 if it did uncam would it catch as you fell?
Yes it will cam back onto the rope easily
If you were to use an Alpine Butterfly instead of the girth hitch it would eliminate the need for your Lara cord and extra carabiner. Also, once less piece of rope blowing in the wind and/or getting in the way while lining up for a shot.
I'm totally new to SRT and climbing rope but trying to get a list of everything to make the switch....and understand it. How do you use an Alpine Butterfly to avoid the extra paracord/carabiner? Do you have double the amount of rope for the height so the Alpine is in the middle of the rope, leaving enough rope to pull the non-climbing side?
A lot saffer and easier method for setting your line is to make an alpine butterfky (midline knot) feed your tail end threw the AB and use the end of your rope to pull it down once your on the ground also a girth hitch takes away about 50% of your rope strength the AB is a lot stronger too only take away around 30% of rope strength and try putting a little pulley on your hand assender makes the mechanic advantage even smoother not saying anything is wrong with your method just some advise to make it even better
Thank you for the video
What is the red device in your right hand? Is it a PETZL - Verso, Ultralight Belay/Rappel Device or a
Wild Country RopeMan MK2 Forged Ascender? Will one of these work?
It's a mad rock lifeguard. A grigri will work too
Could it be an Outdoors Climbing Safety Rope Automatic Locking Device - Grasping Rope Device - Ascender Equipment Rock Climbing Protector ? found on amazon.
I dont know what that is but when it comes to climbing equipment I try to buy the best name brand stuff I can afford. You're trusting your life to this gear.
thanks for posting this!
Great start on your video channel... Subscribed! I am fixing to move from out West where we spot and stalk hunt to Kentucky where I am going to need to get up in some trees. Really interested in the lightweight portability and all other positives of saddle hunting, and figure SRT is also the best and lightest way to get up there. Your videos are far some of the best I have found on SRT. QUESTION: What height do you typically hunt from, and what length of main rope would you use to accomplish that? 2x the height plus..?
I normally hunt between 20 and 30 feet depending on the setup. I use a 45 foot piece of sterling htp and dont have any problems. You need it to at least be long enough to touch the ground when you're climbing and rappeling down.
Spot and stalk to tree hunting is going to be a huge change of pace for you. Good luck
My question is how long does it take you to throw that rope up 20 ft at 4:30 in morning.. I'm not hating on this method actually been looking into this for a while just curious because I'm used to quick sticks and hang on which put me at roughly 20 lbs and takes approximately 10 to 15 mins to be in the tree 20 to 25 with camera gear
It's not bad. You get better at it the more you do it. 20 feet isnt very far to throw. But I try to go out and put a piece of paracord in place on the tree before i hunt there. That way when I do go in to hunt that tree all I have to do is pull my rope up into the tree with the paracord instead of throwing the throw bag and throw line.
awesome video thanks
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Thanks for the video Jamie! I'm new to saddle hunting and was hoping you could tell me what kind of saddle you're using. It looks to have leg straps, which is great, as most of what I'm seeing people use on UA-cam are just sit drags, which seems a bit dangerous. I was going to use a sit drag in combination with my climbing harness, but may not need to do that if I can find something like what you're using. Thanks again!
It's an aero hunter kestrel. In my opinion the best saddle ever made because it's not bulky but it's extremely high quality and over built.
Very cool!!!
One question. When you do this do you bring your bow/crossbow up with you or pull it up after with paracord? Same question with back pack. Thanks in advance!
I leave my bow on the ground and pull it up later. I wear my backpack while I climb
Jamie, I'm really interested in trying the SRT method of climbing a tree. Once you reach hunting height, do you switch over to a tether and the longer bridge?
Looks really slick. Thanks for sharing your technique. How do you like the Kestrel saddle. I have another major brand and can not get it comfortable. Any regrets with the Kestrel?
I like the kestrel and the evolution before it better than anything else I've tried. They just hug your butt and support you better.
thank you
Would it be stupid to hunt like this out of a stand? Just use this to get up tree and then hang hang on? I just don’t like the idea of saddle hunting, doesn’t sound like something I would want to do all day.
awesome thanks bud!!!!
Pretty slick.
I am a newbie. Thanks!
Okay now remake this video but add close up of your setup so peeps actually know what to do... This can be done with rope only.... No equipment needed if you can get your rope over the tree limb.... Otherwise all you need to add is a roll of construction twine tie a rock to the end to replace the throw bag.... I would use rope with equal length twine and a large fishing sinker.... Once the rope is over the limb and you have both ends tie an alpine seat into one end number 1 leaving a 6 foot tag end that you tie around the rope end 2 with a prusik or other friction knot..... Now you can loop rope 2 under your foot and back to itself below the prusik step lift the prusik then step again..... Just add one D ring (I use home depot bought steel threaded D ring) tie your friction knot preferably Bachman knot thru this and it becomes a very effective ascended........ This can also be used to rappel down.... But if you add couple more steel d rings you can create a block and tackle setup for lifting your kill to dress it..... This way you make double use.... Anyway look up Bachman knot and prusik.... Look up rope only drt tree climbing and you will see plenty of videos....
Hi. Nice video bro)
Hrmm might have to try this